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2/3/2025 Planning Commission Audio - Hickman County, TN
Feb 3, 2026
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Got you.
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Tommy's not going to be here.
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Okay.
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We were
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uh were we were we were a little bit
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better prepared.
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When I was in 94, we didn't have a
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generator.
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A lot of times
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half
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back internet.
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And I went out there today.
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And here's the extra
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line of the pasture, you know, and it
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goes over to a pole.
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It was there today.
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I went out there looked
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a tree probably big and one of the winds
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come down and hit And
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we
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call him today.
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But what he did
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not
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shine
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is
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It's going to be
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I got a little bit more help again.
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Sunday.
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I got my
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niece.
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Yeah, I told him. I said
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he's pretty bad.
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It's pretty good.
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Give me pine cones.
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Bless his heart.
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I get you back in school
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in the house.
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brief hello.
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Marty, I was up
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for about four or five hours.
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Gosh.
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It never gets
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my next life.
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Well, let's go get started. I guess
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not as much as you think. Is this all
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that's coming or you can buy one for
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just put it in?
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Okay.
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Yeah, I didn't know. I saw them. I
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looked at anywhere from like0.
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I don't want to sit beside Austin.
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I did, too.
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All right, we'll call this meeting to
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order.
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February
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2nd, 2026, Queen County Planning
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Commission if we could have a roll call.
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February 3rd.
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It is February the 3.
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That's my bad.
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That's my bad. I didn't catch it.
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All right.
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Make that correction.
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I had two Sundays last week.
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Yeah, it's hard to get normal.
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It's hard to get normal. If call roll,
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please sir.
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Wayne Mayberry. Jeff Church here. Tommy
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Taylor here. Tommy Caps. Denny Clark
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here. Eddie Boon. Jason Carter
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here.
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Calcott
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here.
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Keith Nash
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here.
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Andy Maddox
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here.
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Um, one bank, two absent,
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eight present.
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Okay. Uh, you had a copy of the minutes
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from the January meeting was emailed out
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as well as being in attached to the
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agenda. Chair would entertain a motion
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to approve the meeting the minutes.
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that
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Carter.
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Any discussion?
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Any discussion on the minutes? All in
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favor say I.
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Those opposed.
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Uh you have an agenda in front of you.
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Chair will entertain a motion to approve
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the agenda.
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To approve the agenda as it is
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second.
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All in favor say I.
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I.
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We have an agenda. Uh also, is there
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anybody that's on the public comment
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with us, sir?
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There is not.
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Okay.
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Uh
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chair is unaware of any old business,
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new business. Uh there's a request by
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Patrick Battery zone 6815 Taylor's Creek
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Road Tennessee from A1 to C1.
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So this is for a
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commercial campground on um Taylor's
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Creek as it says. Um, and the reason
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he's applying for a reszoning is because
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he did not want to wait on the process
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of the book having to change for a
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special exception and trying to expedite
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it. Um, but due to the
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location and nature of the area,
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my recommendation is to deny
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because this area is not
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um proper for C1 for commercial use.
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Okay.
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Make a motion to deny.
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Second.
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Uh discussion
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roll call vote.
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Jeff Church,
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this is yesterday, right?
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Yes.
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Tony Taylor,
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yes.
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Tenny Clark,
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yes.
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Eddie Bon,
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yes.
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Jason Carter,
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yes.
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Claude Calakott,
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yes.
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Keith Nash,
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yes.
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Andy Maddox,
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yes.
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vacant two absent.
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Yes.
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I could be wrong. It's I've had a pretty
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rough week
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or so, but I was thinking he's trying to
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expedite this and and I'm fine with I
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want I wanted to deny don't all
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campgrounds require special exception.
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I I'm gonna be perfect. I Danny, that's
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a great question because when this
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when this conversation started, I was
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trying to remember even if if
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campgrounds are allowed in C1.
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Well, in A1 they require a special
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exception and I was thinking they all
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required a special exception.
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because we dealt with that before
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they wanted to put a store going to be
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open to the public or something that
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I don't personally don't see how
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it is in the
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is permitted use
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It's a permitted use in C1.
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Yes,
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it's a permitted by special exception in
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C1.
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Okay, let's back up.
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So, it's reszoning and
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under permitted uses in C1. Does it say
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campground?
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No, it's under uses permitted by special
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exception.
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It's on the list of special exceptions
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that be can be granted in C4.
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Yeah, but but that's not what we were
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doing.
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They're pretty I I my mind in my mind
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extremely heavily regulated.
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I mean I'm just this I'm sorry just
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asking this discussion. So that we
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should not even have accepted a request
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to reszone for a campground because a
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campground is not a permitted use in C1.
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I I just assume that they were wanting
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to to put a store like other campgrounds
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didn't I mean that's what I would have
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you know that that's you know because
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even if they if they ran A1 and it was
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had the campground or whatever but I
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mean they can't have a store open to the
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public you know so that's that's that's
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what I was thinking but Austin I mean
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you probably know more the uh
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I was not in the office I think when
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they took this application
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okay
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again you didn't say anything about
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either way Okay. But that that's just
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what when it when it popped up
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commercial that was because we had the
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same issue in in Pinewood with with that
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with that campground that they that the
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store that they have is only they can
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only do for their
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their
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Yeah. Yeah. residents, whatever you want
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to call it. It's not open to you. Right.
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So
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they're under a grandfather
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that it was it was determined in court
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that that that campground was was there.
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They're they're under a grandfather. But
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I would without that
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I I think a campground would be very
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hard to do anywhere in the county. And
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that's the way I was remembering it. And
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and don't I'm getting older every day,
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but you and even in C1, you got to have
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a special exception.
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And I don't think they're allowed at all
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in A1. There's no avenue of a special
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exception in A1 for a campground.
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So to your point, Danny, the two-step
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process for somebody to put a campground
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in the county would be for it to be
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converted from A1 to Z1. That's step
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one. Once they have C1 reszoning, then
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they'd have to come back and ask for the
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special exception for it to be resone
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for it to be uh
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they are allowed I think special
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exception.
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They are that's the first step
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and then the only reason that in my
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experience that we even considered C1
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was if they wanted to do a public
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special.
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Okay.
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All right. So, that one is denied. Uh,
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is there any are there is there sorry
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next on the new business is the amending
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the Hickman County zoning resolution
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special
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exception requirements
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to make the new law.
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You should have a copy of
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um
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the
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resolution change in front of you. This
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was put together by Amanda, I believe,
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with help
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from Sam Edwards
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where it's just going through and
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changing the
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responsibility from the board of zoning
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appeals to
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either the zoning administrator or the
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building official.
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This brings us in line with state law.
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Yes. Yes, it does.
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puts the responsibility on you. Correct.
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Yes.
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And then the
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BCA would be an appellent board only.
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So if they So if somebody comes in and
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asks for a special exception, you don't
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think it needs to be granted, they don't
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like that, then they can then they can
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go to the BCA. Yes.
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Yes.
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So they would only meet if they disagree
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with the decision I make.
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Mr. Clark,
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I think it goes both ways. If I If I
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understood it right, if you grant Andy a
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special exception and I, as a neighbor,
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don't like him, I can go to BA, too.
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I could I could be wrong on that because
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I'm getting into that lawyer territory
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and Perry Mason hadn't covered that yet.
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I I think the appeal will work with
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it doesn't have to be
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you can check that out. I don't think it
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has to be the applicant that appeals
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your decision. I think your decision can
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be appealed by somebody affected. But we
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might figure that out before
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it says or other agrieved party.
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Okay.
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I understand you. Good luck, Austin.
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Thank the state of Tennessee for that
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one right there.
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Oh man, I'm sure it'll be fine.
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At least you're not the final authority.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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At least it's the other way around.
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Has anybody Sam or Amanda or Amanda
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talked to you about in order for the BZA
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to hear? There's the application, the
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cut off date, the advertising. So,
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how are you going to handle that if
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somebody walks in for a special
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exception?
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You've got to put a sign up that you're
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going to you're considering a special
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exception or the the BCA does.
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I've been thinking about this since Sam
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sprung that on us that that night at
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city hall of all the things that could
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go wrong.
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Um,
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that's that's a good point because I
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mean they're going the neighbors are
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going to have to be notified.
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Yeah.
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And I'm just trying to throw the rest of
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the kink in the conversation is I mean
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are you going to put the sign up? Are
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you going to advertise? Are you going to
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hold a hearing of the party who's
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petitioning and potential neighbors who
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may not want it all by your lonesome?
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that is not said anywhere in the state
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law.
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Well, I know that
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that's just changing that because um
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I'm not disagreeing with it, but I'm
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just making sure that that you need to
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think through and we need to propagate
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some rules that say this is the process
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because like Danny's saying, if there's
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not a meeting, if there's not a
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schedule, then somebody's going to come
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in and say, "I want this." And they're
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going to and you're going to say, "What?
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I'm going to think about it." You can't,
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you know, we we we don't want to leave
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leave you in that type of situation.
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We wanted you to say, "Thank you. I'm
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going to put some signs up in two weeks.
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I'll hold a uh a meeting on this date in
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this location and anybody can come." You
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know, whatever is required. And but but
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I mean, you we need to help you not get
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lambasted,
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Danny. Is that what that's you're you're
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you're saying this guy's about to be
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vulnerable. Well,
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There's a lot of the transparency could
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go away.
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Austin, I'm not saying that Austin would
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do that, but he could easily be accused
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of it. And that that's to your point, we
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we need to set up some stuff that
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protects him. That here's the rules.
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Everybody knows the rules and I follow
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the rules because the the state it's not
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the first time the state of Tennessee
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has done that to local government.
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Here, y'all figure it out. We created
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the mess. We let the dog out. You figure
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out how to get him back to cage, you
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know, kind of thing.
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It's it's something to think about,
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Mr. Nash.
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Well, I mean, when when when does uh
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obviously this is a state law. Do we
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have a a certain date for us to adopt
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this?
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It is how do I say we need to get it
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adopted as soon as possible but if we
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are still trying to figure out the best
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way to write this
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we can continue
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I don't know if this is it do you Danny
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or do you think it would be we we just
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we have to have our own you know we we
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adopt this I mean now this is we still
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going to have to do some work on this
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because this is not Hickman County
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part this obviously she wrote this but
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it needs to get redone formatted for us.
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Mhm.
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Um but don't you think that beyond this
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would we not now that we just we give
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him the authority that the rules
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operating
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would be would the would have to be
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modified to reflect that change and
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that's where
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the the the rubber meet in the road
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would be so important that we get it
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right. Again, I'm not I'm not I think
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all this I think this is what we should
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do. But at the same time, I don't want
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somebody to come in and say in the
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absence of rules, this is what I won't
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give it to me. He needs to be able to
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say no, here's the time frame. Here's
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the process by which we're going to go
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about doing this. It's similar to what
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we have done in the past with one minor
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caveat. And then you know whereas before
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if the B you know I think Danny has so
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told me this a million times the BA was
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the final say
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this way you can sit there and say this
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is the you know there there there is a
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way if you are agrieved that you can
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have this reviewed and there's a process
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and I had a thought but then the more
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you talked I realized we probably
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shouldn't do do it that way is that do
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everything just like we're doing it now
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but often be president to be president
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at the BZA meeting and rather than
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calling over the BZA he makes the
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decision then but if they're if they're
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an appellet process and they're already
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quasi judicial they don't need to be
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exposed to it that that could that could
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they wouldn't good appellet process if
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they were appro already exposed to it
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then so that's that's not going to work
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they don't need to know anything about
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it. If they're if they're if they're the
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appeals, they don't need to be any way
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involved in it unless they're triggered
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by by something. So, we'll have to
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figure out something else.
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Yes.
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One thing about I see running into if we
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approve it tonight is we don't have
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system operating procedures on how he's
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going to handle it already in place. as
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soon as this is I mean I know that's
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going to come to county court but once
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it's approved
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with no rules then he's he's open for
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I just think they're opening a can of
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worms that we're not ready to it's not
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ready to be closed we got to think about
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I would be hesitant because I'm thinking
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it'll be the end of March before this is
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actually the an amendment to the deal
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but I would be we wouldn't be doing our
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job if we started did a two-month uh
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process,
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intending on working on it all the way
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through it, but we need we need to have
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it finalized before we start that
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two-month process.
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This is my best.
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Austin, help me out on how we before the
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state decided to
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change make force the change here. So,
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um, somebody comes into the office and
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they say, "I want to put
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whatever home on my feet store.
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There's a BCA."
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Yeah. And so I, you know, and well, you
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know, that's not allowed without a
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special exception. So then they get put
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on the agenda for the BCA and the BZA
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like there's signs go up
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and how many how many what's the
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timeline on how how long are the signs
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up and all of that? It needs to be at
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least two weeks.
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Okay. So, two weeks the signs up and
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then they go in front of the BZA and and
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there's there it's heard by the
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applicant and is it heard by anybody
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that would oppose it or
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um I believe that there is a time for
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public comment, public concerns.
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Okay. Okay. So, it's a two week
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like notice period or whatever. Okay.
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All right.
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It was a full week before that next
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meeting you had to have it in
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to get a public comment
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extra week.
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Okay. Okay.
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At at least an extra week
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almost a month before the meeting
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schedule you had to have in
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it. That's how I sort of remember like
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five weeks I think actually
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I think my size almost
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you got the paper situation out paper,
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right?
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I'm assuming that part of the wording
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here is straight from state law and
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other is what Amanda created.
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Yes,
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I think it would be helpful to us in
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considering this to understand what is
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direct quotes that we have to have in
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here and which portions are what we need
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to expound on or clarify or possibly be
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revised. If we could have that indicated
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by the next time we meet to discuss
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this, I think that would that would be
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very helpful to me anyway to know what
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we can change and what we can't.
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Yeah, I agree. N
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well I mean and I'm going to just going
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to go back here to the second paragraph
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of section one. The zoning
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administrator/building official shall
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review each application for compliance
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with the specific standard and criteria
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set forth in the zoning resolution and
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shall and shall approve approve with
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conditions or deny the application in
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writing. Well,
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you know, it it it keeps referring back
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to the zoning resolution, but right now
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the zoning resolution doesn't have all
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this stuff in here. So, so my suggestion
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would be and and I'm, you know, anybody
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wants to volunteer to off this committee
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who has time and wants to work with this
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is great, but that before next month,
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the resolution itself
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be
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rewritten to the Hickman County standard
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and then these proposed zoning
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regulation changes
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be made so that we can accompany both of
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those.
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We vote on it before we send it to the
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county court. Both this resolution and
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the changes that required in the zoning
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regulation. So this is all
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one big package.
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One big package.
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Yeah. Because that vote is going to have
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to be changed. So, I'll make a motion
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that this discussion be tabled until
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next month when uh the resolution and
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the zoning regulations involving this
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can be uh amended and brought to us for
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review.
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Okay. Is there a second?
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Second.
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All in favor say I.
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Oppos. Okay.
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Is there any more new business?
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I do have one. Um,
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well, that's report
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that it's planning report.
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Okay. All right. Well, go ahead cuz I
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don't chairperson has nothing.
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Um, Amanda is doing you want we want to
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get ahead on training. Amanda is having
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a training this coming Tuesday. I don't
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know who would all be able to make it,
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but it will be in Dixon at the City of
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Dixon Council Chambers
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on the 10th from 5:30 to 7:30.
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Um,
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if you want to have any food catered,
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she's doing Calisters, let us know
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either tonight or tomorrow if you're
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able to make it. And if you just want to
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come to the training, you will you can
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just show up day of.
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What is the subject of the training?
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It is open meetings act ethics and
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whatever else comes up in the discussion
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Q&A.
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That is what the topic says.
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So that's pretty much what we had in our
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required training already.
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Just another opportunity if maybe if we
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didn't make the required training.
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Well, this would be for the new year.
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So to get ahead of it instead of doing
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it all in December.
26:32
Okay.
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Anything else? Direct.
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We are journed.
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One minute past.