School Board · Special Called Meeting · Mar 17, 2026
Tue, Mar 17, 2026
Hickman County Board of Education meetings, including regular sessions and special called meetings.
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Consulting Agreement Discussion
- Board members discuss concerns about paying roughly $11,000 per month for a temporary superintendent consultant over April-May.
- Discussion compares the proposed compensation with a previous interim arrangement that was described as lower-cost.
- Members emphasize transition needs, including onboarding before June and coordination with the current superintendent.
- Board raises concern about staff confusion over reporting lines during the overlap period.
- Members suggest clarifying consultant vs. acting superintendent roles in writing and district communications.
- Budget impact is discussed; speakers indicate funding is available through existing budget lines and a vacancy.
Motion and Vote: Temporary Consulting Agreement
- Motion is made to approve the temporary consulting agreement with Marcy Tidwell from April 1 through May 31, 2026.
- Roll-call vote includes both yes and no votes.
- Motion passes by a 4-2 result.
Trip Request: JAG National Conference
- Student and staff request approval for travel to JAG Nationals in Salt Lake City in late April/early May.
- Student qualifications are presented (regional and state public speaking placements leading to national competition).
- Staff outlines logistics, including chaperone and coordination support for travel and lodging.
- Board members commend the program and instructors.
Motion and Vote: JAG Trip Approval
- Motion is made and seconded to approve the JAG national conference trip request.
- Vote is approved unanimously by voice vote.
Trip Request: JROTC Mountain Man Memorial March
- New JROTC instructor requests approval for a Gatlinburg trip (April 9-12) for the Mountain Man Memorial March event.
- Presentation highlights leadership and character outcomes (teamwork, grit, perseverance, communication) and military remembrance components.
- Instructor provides packet details on roster, itinerary, budget/fundraising, waivers, and transportation plans.
- Parents are expected to assist with transportation/chaperoning.
Motion and Vote: JROTC Trip Approval
- Motion is made and seconded to approve the JROTC trip request.
- Vote is approved by voice vote.
Adjournment of Initial Business Session
- Board asks for additional business and proceeds to a motion to adjourn that portion of the meeting.
- Motion and second are made; adjournment carries by voice vote.
Budget Work Session Overview
- Finance leadership introduces budget work-session materials and notes the district began preparation in December.
- Main budget pressure identified is the state minimum teacher salary requirement of $50,000 and related scale constraints by experience band.
- Team plans to refine options in April and finalize a request for county commission action in May.
- Ongoing meetings with schools/departments are described as part of needs alignment and budget development.
State Funding (TISA) and Revenue Context
- First TISA estimate is reviewed, with notes that values will continue changing through June.
- Staff explains TISA mechanics (state/local share and fiscal capacity effects) and cautions that estimates are not final.
- Preliminary state funding increase is described as modest relative to overall budget pressures.
- Team indicates it is reviewing coding/data details (including CTE and special education) to ensure funding is accurately captured.
Salary Scenarios Presented
- Two draft compensation scenarios are presented for discussion, both anchored to required minimum salary adjustments.
- Scenario modeling focuses on base salary impacts and notes exclusions/limitations (certain funds/components not fully modeled yet).
- Staff reports substantial projected base-salary increases under both scenarios, with scenario totals differing by approach.
- Presenter notes estimates may shift based on hiring, degree changes, and other moving factors.
Salary Impact Estimates (From Transcript Discussion)
- Staff states the required move to the state minimum reflects about a 4.33% increase from the district's current minimum.
- Scenario one is described as approximately $650,000 in additional base salaries in Fund 141 and approximately $106,000 in Fund 142, for a combined base-salary increase of about $756,000.
- Staff notes these scenario figures could vary by about 10% either direction due to hiring changes, degree changes, and other moving factors.
- The transcript does not provide a final county-only cost figure; the closest local-facing base figure discussed is the Fund 141 amount.
- Staff reports a preliminary state funding estimate increase of about $354,000, while emphasizing final state/local impacts were still in flux.
- Staff explicitly says scenario salary figures shown were base only and did not include associated payroll costs such as taxes, supplements, retirement effects tied to salary growth, and insurance budgeting uncertainty.
Comparative Pay-Scale Context
- Board receives a comparison of district teacher pay against neighboring districts (including larger nearby systems).
- Discussion notes competitive pressure and retention challenges, especially for experienced teachers.
- Members reflect on prior efforts to stay competitive and ongoing difficulty matching higher-paying neighbors.
Additional Budget Drivers and Operational Updates
- Staff references upcoming capital prioritization, textbook needs, transportation and maintenance procurement, and student technology planning.
- Possible state policy changes around elementary technology use are noted as potential cost drivers.
- Fuel, utilities, software transition costs, and insurance uncertainty are identified as variables affecting final budget development.
- Staff states most employees would likely see increases under current scenarios, with a few schedule-specific considerations.
Board Questions and Q&A Topics
- Questions include projected year-end deficit level, number of employees impacted by proposed salary scenarios, CTE growth implications, and funding sensitivity.
- Staff indicates year-end estimate is still being finalized and expects to provide an updated projection soon.
- Additional concern is raised about ensuring no employee groups are left behind in compensation adjustments.
Facilities Update
- Board asks for status of East High School roof work.
- Staff reports work has started, references a recent incident involving another contractor, and indicates an estimated multi-week project timeline.
Next Steps
- Staff asks board members to submit specific scenario requests before April budget discussions.
- District finance team commits to additional modeling and updated estimates as new data becomes available.
Final Adjournment
- Meeting concludes after completion of work-session discussion and a final motion to close.
HCBOE Special Called Board Meeting - March 17th, 2026
0:00talked about her coming and leaving where she's at and I mean we I don't I didn't know anything about it so I felt
0:088 secondsso I felt like yeah I don't know I just I kind of have
0:1717 secondsconcerns so I'm just I just wanted to voice those and um and I and I if you the last meeting I
0:2525 secondsasked if you know was this the same thing that we did for M and I couldn't mber. Yeah.
0:3030 secondsAnd we didn't, you know, because you we said it would be a tenth of a 12th of the salary of that's what we and uh and
0:3737 secondsI went back and looked and and uh and looked at in the and we like said we only paid himund $150 a day he asked for uh just to cover his expenses, you know,
0:4848 secondslike I think he was getting a room. I think he would come and stay a couple Wednesdays and Thursdays he came and and it just seems like a lot of money
0:5656 secondsthat as I talked to people out the community, you know, about budgets and stuff and for nearly $11,000 $22,000
1:051 minute, 5 secondsfor two months for consulting is a lot for anywhere. That's a that's a big time
1:121 minute, 12 secondsconsultant right there at $11,000 a month. So,
1:181 minute, 18 secondswell, I understand the need also. That's my concern is that I thought when it come up, I asked that question. I thought it was going to be the same as
1:251 minute, 25 secondswhat we did. I had thought about the president thing. That is that is a good point.
1:311 minute, 31 secondsPersonally, I don't worry about stuff I'm not going to be in control of in the future as far as if it ever comes up again. But, you know, something you have
1:391 minute, 39 secondsto look at and you don't have to do what you did in the past. Again, it's a board decision.
1:451 minute, 45 secondsI kind of look at it like she needs to get here. She needs to get started. She needs to meet her people.
1:521 minute, 52 secondsAnd she is a professional and you pay professionals what their rate of pay.
2:002 minutesShe's never run a school district. Miss Balls had run a school district twice. Yeah. But she's done every other role. She's worked for the state of Tennessee. She is a professional.
2:072 minutes, 7 secondsRight. Um it it's very odd that somebody comes in and takes a very very low amount of pay to come in and get
2:152 minutes, 15 secondsstarted. Nurses don't do it. People in training don't do it. They they are paid at the rate they're going to be paid at.
2:232 minutes, 23 secondsBut we also have a contract with Dr.
2:262 minutes, 26 secondsAnderson till the 31st of March. I mean May. And that was the point of that was to get through then so that she could
2:342 minutes, 34 secondsstart doing June 1st because she's got from June 1st to August,
2:382 minutes, 38 secondsyou know, before school starts. So it and it may, you know, I also kind of worry too about how the teachers will
2:452 minutes, 45 secondsperceive I mean is there going to be like a well who do I who do I it's just a consultant. So they are treated like that.
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsWe don't treat it as she's not replacing Miss Anderson. Not now.
3:013 minutes, 1 secondYeah. Well, I mean that's it's easy to be is it? Yeah. They are.
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsBut um because when you look at the scope of services um
3:133 minutes, 13 secondsyou know that could that could lend itself to there being like a well who do I listen to you know what am I because
3:213 minutes, 21 secondsthis person's coming in you know. So that I just wanted to to put that out there as a
3:293 minutes, 29 secondsas a concern as a concern. Yeah. All right.
3:363 minutes, 36 secondsBecause I do realize yes, she does need to have especially with the budget that needs to be,
3:433 minutes, 43 secondsyou know, she needs to have a part in that. Um,
3:483 minutes, 48 secondsI think she's going to spend the most of her time working on the budget because I think the date to go before the county commission with that is May
3:563 minutes, 56 secondsthe I don't know how much it is. May the 11th or something like that.
4:004 minutesWhere's Mike? Mike, when's we supposed to be? I think we go May 7th was one of the dates I saw today which would be the
4:094 minutes, 9 secondsThursday after our board meeting in May which is when we generally approve the budget is in that May board meeting
4:184 minutes, 18 secondsand this year like every year it's going to be difficult especially this year and what it's been in the past is that school superintendent I've attended them
4:264 minutes, 26 secondsand you have too and Mr. Elkins would get up and speak before the commission county commission.
4:344 minutes, 34 secondsSo it involves it does involve a lot but that would be consultant wouldn't do that. That would
4:424 minutes, 42 secondsbe Dr. Anderson whoever's acting superintendent.
4:464 minutes, 46 secondsBut the roles wouldn't be they would be different cuz she's just would be consulting and Dr. Anderson would still
4:534 minutes, 53 secondsbe in her role. And I understand what you're saying. I do understand.
4:584 minutes, 58 secondsUm, but if it is known that she's just a consultant for now and Dr. Anderson
5:065 minutes, 6 secondsstill in her role, then they shouldn't have an issue of who they would answer to or ask questions to or anything like that. If that's made clear, you know,
5:175 minutes, 17 secondsyeah, that may be something we need to consider is more clearly defining the roles of her as a consultant like
5:255 minutes, 25 secondswithin the contract or within the teacher, you know, chain of command for everybody in the district is making sure
5:315 minutes, 31 secondsthat if we do this that everybody understands what Miss Tidwell is here for and what Dr. Anderson is currently
5:405 minutes, 40 secondsdoing. I think that might be something we could consider doing to alleviate maybe a little bit of the concern as as well and
5:495 minutes, 49 secondsto allow Dr. Anderson and Miss Tid to both, you know, know their roles and they both need to work because if Dr.
5:565 minutes, 56 secondsAnderson's presenting the budget to the county commission, she has to be super involved in that because that that that's a that's a that's an intimidating little process.
6:066 minutes, 6 secondsget up over them and they're just all and they're and you got like 14 people and they're, you know, they're and so you got to be ready for it. So,
6:146 minutes, 14 secondsbut Miss Tidwell has to be involved in that budget. Yeah. Sure. Just like it was Mr. Mullen.
6:236 minutes, 23 secondsYeah. He made that presentation.
6:306 minutes, 30 secondsYeah. I mean,
6:326 minutes, 32 secondscoming into a new role and I really think coming into the school board for the first time is just a small thing.
6:416 minutes, 41 secondsIt's not my profession. I don't want to say that wrong cuz somebody would get on Facebook and take it the wrong way. But what I'm saying is it was not easy coming in. You know what I'm saying?
6:526 minutes, 52 secondsThere's no way you can prepare to be a school board member. I don't guess. I mean, you know, but it was kind of uh
6:596 minutes, 59 secondsnot intimidating because I don't think it was kind of uneasy, I guess, because you didn't you don't know what to expect and everything like that, but you know,
7:087 minutes, 8 secondsin a in a different situation if you have the opportunity to get in there and kind of get involved and meet people and know what's going on. I think it makes
7:177 minutes, 17 secondsthe transition easier when you actually get into that role.
7:247 minutes, 24 secondsThat's the reason we have to take a class every year. Yes.
7:287 minutes, 28 secondsSo, budgetwise, is this something we're going to have to um
7:347 minutes, 34 secondsbecause of the amount is that kind of which the money is in he on his budget
7:417 minutes, 41 secondshis funding he's funding for all in his June 31st.
7:497 minutes, 49 secondsSo,
7:527 minutes, 52 secondsif that's like we got to pull any money out anymore. No, it's still under Mr. Williams. But isn't Dr. Anderson getting that?
8:008 minutesShe's getting We brought hers up.
8:058 minutes, 5 secondsShe's still getting her budgeted. She's still getting her budgeted amount. Plus, we brought her up a little bit. Yeah.
8:118 minutes, 11 secondsWe We have a vacancy in the budget. Remind us the person, right? Right.
8:188 minutes, 18 secondsYeah. Remind us the person.
8:228 minutes, 22 secondsI'm going to make a motion that we accept and we approve this temporary consulting agreement with uh Miss Marcy
8:308 minutes, 30 secondsTidwell that runs from April the 1st through May 31st of 2026.
8:408 minutes, 40 secondsSecond, we need roll call vote. Miss Tyler, yes.
8:488 minutes, 48 secondsMr. Hobs, yes. Mr. Lane, no. Miss Mazize, no. Dr. Coup,
8:558 minutes, 55 secondsyes.
9:039 minutes, 3 secondsNo, sir. There's just Oh, sorry, Miss Herren. I gave you a yes on there at the top. I'm sorry, Miss Herren. I'm I'm assuming you're voting yes.
9:119 minutes, 11 secondsYes. Okay, so 42. I didn't hear your comment. I apologize for that. That's okay. Motion passes.
9:189 minutes, 18 secondsAll right. And we'll get her to sign that. The next signing is the trip request for
9:279 minutes, 27 secondsuh Jag National Conference Draker.
9:349 minutes, 34 secondsHello, my name is Emily Bragg. I'm a senior at Pikman County High School. I have been fortunate enough to be able to compete with JAG. I competed at the
9:429 minutes, 42 secondsregional level and placed third for public speaking. And then I moved on to the state level and placed third as well. So now I have the opportunity to compete at nationals in Salt Lake City,
9:519 minutes, 51 secondsUtah.
9:539 minutes, 53 secondsYes. So we are requesting permission for Kinley to compete April 29th through
10:0010 minutesSaturday, May 2nd, possibly through May 3rd, depending on the flights and the events that take place that night. They
10:0710 minutes, 7 secondsare scheduled to end at 6:00 p.m. Um Jag has been very great working with us.
10:1210 minutes, 12 secondsThey're going to help us with the hotel registrations, the flights, and so forth. So, we will work with them if approved to coordinate all the logistics. Kinley's mom, Miss Bragg,
10:2410 minutes, 24 secondsemployee at Hen County Middle School, will serve as her chaperon,
10:2810 minutes, 28 secondsand we look forward to her representing us at a national competition. Um, while there, she will compete in public
10:3510 minutes, 35 secondsspeaking and then other career related events. I'm excited for this because this program we've had it for years and
10:4210 minutes, 42 secondsit's kind of set. Um I was lucky when I was in another high school we had a very good program very good J program Jerry
10:4910 minutes, 49 secondsJones which I think is state you probably met him one time he's state J person now and it is a great program
10:5710 minutes, 57 secondsit is young people and our two instructors have really knocked it out of the park with what they're doing with the program and I expect us to be up here a lot asking for
11:0511 minutes, 5 secondspermission to travel. They're doing a wonderful job. Coach Duchain and Robin Castleberry. So, so proud of it. Thank you.
11:1311 minutes, 13 secondsNeed a motion to approve the trip. I make the motion we approve the trip.
11:1711 minutes, 17 secondsHave a motion second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Have a good trip. Congratulations.
11:2411 minutes, 24 secondsCongratulations. County High School.
11:3611 minutes, 36 secondsGood evening.
11:3811 minutes, 38 secondsUm, in case you don't know who I am, I'm first Turk. I'm the new instructor at County High School Junior ROC. Welcome.
11:4511 minutes, 45 secondsThank you. Um, it's great to be here. I love it here. Uh, first, thank you for allowing us to come to the uh meeting
11:5211 minutes, 52 secondsand get approval or seek approval for our event. Um, so I'm here today to ask permission to go to the Mount Memorial March event hosted in Gatlinburg,
12:0112 minutes, 1 secondTennessee from 9 to 12 April. The Mount Man Memorial March is a it's it's a
12:0912 minutes, 9 secondsrace, but it's more than a race. It teaches kids I can't things I can't teach them in a classroom. It's a culminating event for things they learn
12:1812 minutes, 18 secondsin JCC which is experential um to include things like intangibles like perseverance uh grit um teamwork,
12:2812 minutes, 28 secondscommunication and all these skills. Uh they have they learn all these because they have to work together as a fivep person team to complete a 13.1 mile
12:3712 minutes, 37 secondscourse. Typically we run a heavy category. I don't since we're just beginning this here, I don't have the equipment or the money to buy the
12:4512 minutes, 45 secondsequipment. So, we that's why we have a lot of the fundraising stuff that we would like to do here as well, which is I have a huge package, so I try to go through it quick. Um,
12:5612 minutes, 56 secondsthe biggest thing about Mount Man is uh it teaches our children how to honor
13:0413 minutes, 4 secondsthose that went and fought for our country and our way of life. Um it uh they get to meet gold star
13:1313 minutes, 13 secondsfamilies and interact with them. A lot of times they build relationships uh that last years and years and years. Um
13:2013 minutes, 20 secondsI did this for 12 years at Fairview High School before I came here and at one point I brought 126 people to go down,
13:2713 minutes, 27 secondsteachers and families and everything. It really was a huge bonding event for the entire community and I would love to try to do that here.
13:3713 minutes, 37 secondsthe the packet has a lot of information uh to include. The first page is just our mission, a lot of the information about Mount Man. The second page is our
13:4613 minutes, 46 secondscurrent roster that we have so far of the kids. The next part is our itinerary and the timeline. It should be very
13:5313 minutes, 53 secondsdetailed. Um would you like me to go through it? Okay. I just want to make sure. Then the next group is uh our
14:0114 minutes, 1 secondfundraising reasons. We give this to the sponsors and such like that so they have information and the breakdown of what our budget for by everything. And then
14:1014 minutes, 10 secondsthe next is just all the permission slips, forms and waiverss that the army as well as the school and mountain man
14:1614 minutes, 16 secondsrequire. Um our transportation will be taking vans and we have a lot of parents going so some of the kids will be going
14:2414 minutes, 24 secondswith their parents as well. Uh subject to your questions.
14:3114 minutes, 31 secondsI think the motion will approve a request item 3B2 HCS JOTC trip. Second
14:4214 minutes, 42 secondshave a motion second. All in favor say I. I post 370. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Have a great trip.
14:4914 minutes, 49 secondsThank you. Thank you.
14:5414 minutes, 54 secondsAll right. This time is there any other business coming before the board? If not, we need a motion to adjourn for this part.
15:0515 minutes, 5 secondsI'll make a motion.
15:0615 minutes, 6 secondsHave a motion. I'll second. Second. All in favor say I. Okay. Thank you.
15:1415 minutes, 14 secondsAll right. This didn't return.
15:2415 minutes, 24 secondsJust so you know, I don't smile too much during budget season. So, if you think I'm making ugly faces or anything like that, I'm really not. It's just got some handouts. Um,
15:3515 minutes, 35 secondswe noticed it. We just didn't say I know you guys have noticed it for a few years. So,
15:4315 minutes, 43 secondswe got another one after this.
15:5215 minutes, 52 secondsThis is someformational stuff for you as we start discussing the budget and
16:0016 minutesthe budget process and where we're at on things.
16:1016 minutes, 10 secondsI had another also Let's
16:2516 minutes, 25 secondsget one more.
16:4416 minutes, 44 secondsOh yeah, I just walked back. Sorry about that. You're okay.
16:5416 minutes, 54 secondsUh, just briefly talk about the budget process.
16:5816 minutes, 58 secondsAnd you guys know if I stand up, I have a tendency to move around as I talk. So maybe the owl won't follow me or maybe it will. Maybe we got the other thing.
17:0817 minutes, 8 secondsUh, but I'm a walker as I talk, but I'll try and stay here. Um, of course, we started looking at the budget process uh
17:1717 minutes, 17 secondsin December as far as trying to get our ducks in order and looking at directions we needed needed to go. Um,
17:2617 minutes, 26 secondsof course, the big thing that's impacting the budget this year is the minimum salary uh for teachers being at $50,000.
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondsUm, per discussion with Mr. Hobbs and I had a couple weeks ago kind of for this
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondswork session um we would kind of look at some salary scenarios. This is not anything that's
17:5317 minutes, 53 secondsset in stone. This is just some numbers that uh we'll discuss and be looking at.
18:0018 minutesUm, our goal is to have a budget with different scenarios
18:0918 minutes, 9 secondscom not fully done but completed to where you guys can look at debate we can
18:1718 minutes, 17 secondsdiscuss them at the April meeting and then any changes or anything that's in there over that period of time we'll
18:2618 minutes, 26 secondscontinue to work together as a team on the budget to finalize it for that May meeting so we can go before um uh the
18:3418 minutes, 34 secondscounty commission with our request and what we need. Um we have been meeting with the schools
18:4418 minutes, 44 secondsand with departments. We still have a few more to uh meet with. The weather kind of got us in and and um uh some
18:5218 minutes, 52 secondshealth issues and stuff like that kind of slowed us down on a few things. uh but we are moving right along. Uh those
19:0119 minutes, 1 secondmeetings that we have been having uh have been very good uh from both sides.
19:0719 minutes, 7 secondsI believe uh they get to learn from us and we get to learn a lot from them. Uh
19:1319 minutes, 13 secondswe've asked them uh in each case that as they look at their needs and as they
19:2119 minutes, 21 secondslook at what they have and what they're going to do and how it aligns with the district goals and district plans and
19:3019 minutes, 30 secondswhat's best to make our students succeed is what drives everything about our
19:3719 minutes, 37 secondsbudget other than the dollars. the dollars drive it a lot. So, in the first three pages that you're going to see here, and again, this isformational.
19:4919 minutes, 49 secondsUh, don't hold to that all the numbers are 100% accurate because as you're putting together, um, some of the
19:5819 minutes, 58 secondsnumbers and sheets together. Um, and there's several sheets that are involved in it. You can have a formula that
20:0520 minutes, 5 secondsmisses here or a formula that misses there. I'm always a little worried about handing things out before the finalized thing because I keep trying to go
20:1320 minutes, 13 secondsthrough it and go through it and make sure there's no mistakes, but there can always be some mistakes. Um,
20:2120 minutes, 21 secondslet's talk briefly about the state of Tennessee projected minimum teacher salaries. So, that number that we hear
20:2820 minutes, 28 secondsis 50,000 and everyone stops at that and says that's the minimum teacher salary.
20:3420 minutes, 34 secondsIt is, but that's not the only minimum number that they throw out there. Okay?
20:4020 minutes, 40 secondsSo, there's three other minimum numbers that go along with that 50,000. And this impacts your salary schedule for your
20:4920 minutes, 49 secondscertified teachers. One is, okay, you got your 50,000 and then years one
20:5720 minutes, 57 secondsthrough five have to be at or above $50,645.
21:0321 minutes, 3 secondsWe are using that. This is estimated because they haven't put those numbers out yet, but for the last five years,
21:0921 minutes, 9 secondsthese numbers that you're going to see here that's added to the base have been the same. So, we're assuming that's the case at this point in time, but that
21:1821 minutes, 18 secondscould change. Years 6 through 10 have to be at least $3,370 more than that minimum.
21:2921 minutes, 29 secondsAnd so at 53,370 in year 11 and above has to be 6,900 more than that minimum at 56,900.
21:4421 minutes, 44 secondsAnd then you have your advanced degrees.
21:4621 minutes, 46 secondsOf course, we have four categories of advanced degrees in R that's laid out.
21:5221 minutes, 52 secondsIt doesn't go beyond just saying advanced degrees have to be at this. So,
21:5921 minutes, 59 secondsyour advanced degrees 0 years 0 through 5 um based off of previous numbers would
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondshave to be at a minimum 5 thou $53,65 years 6 through10 57,365
22:1922 minutes, 19 secondsand year 11 or above $61,380.
22:2322 minutes, 23 secondsSo generally all of that falls under our master category that is in that. So that drives what all of those other numbers
22:3322 minutes, 33 secondscan be in the pay scale. Um doesn't mean you can't do some manipulation as we will be
22:4122 minutes, 41 secondsdoing and I'll show you some scenarios in relation to that as we continue on here. And again this is moreformational
22:5022 minutes, 50 secondsand then I'm going to let you ask questions. Uh if you want me to, I'll get on my laptop and crunch numbers. Uh
22:5722 minutes, 57 secondsI don't think that's necessarily where we need to go tonight. Uh because I think you guys really kind of just need to look at um the packet that was given.
23:0923 minutes, 9 secondsWe do have our first TISA estimate that came in through February. So, I think you all know that we'll get an estimate
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondsuh all the way up through until the end of June, which will be our final TISA estimate. Uh that will be our funding
23:2523 minutes, 25 secondsfrom the state going into the school year. Uh what it does, it allows us to go into the details of the TISA and
23:3423 minutes, 34 secondswe've been working with our supervisors and our um um our student information system people to make sure everything's
23:4323 minutes, 43 secondscoded correctly. Uh CTE funding that's related to that, making sure we have all
23:4923 minutes, 49 secondsthat correct. Our sped uh categories and how we document that uh impacts the
23:5623 minutes, 56 secondsfunding also. And so we go in and we spend these next two or three months
24:0324 minutes, 3 secondslooking at those numbers, making sure that those ADMs are where they should be so we can maximize the dollars that
24:1024 minutes, 10 secondswe're supposed to get. So, um, the February estimate, as you can see on
24:1624 minutes, 16 secondsthis one, shows a total TISA funding of 29,36,24
24:2624 minutes, 26 secondsthat has a comparison to what we actually the end of the year TISA funding. What? Or the SY26 TISA funding was at 28,88585,000.
24:4224 minutes, 42 secondsHaving problems. I've been dealing with numbers since 7 this morning. Just so you know. 28,885,67929.
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsNow, that's just the TISA calculation.
24:5724 minutes, 57 secondsUnderstand that is not what we received from the state. Okay?
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondsAnd it is what what Tissa does just briefly is
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondsthere's a state portion and then there's a local portion that is 30% of that state number and then based off of our
25:2025 minutes, 20 secondsfiscal capacity compared to the whole fiscal capacity of the state it gets calculated as what the local minimum
25:2925 minutes, 29 secondsportion is and that's subtracted from the total TISA number and that becomes
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsyour state portion that you receive. Um that
25:4425 minutes, 44 secondsfiscal capacity number actually will not be finalized until May. So we don't know
25:5125 minutes, 51 secondsthe impact of that. Last year, I think I told you this last year was roughly a hundth of a percentage point that we went up. It cost us about $60,000.
26:0426 minutes, 4 secondsSo, and now that doesn't sound like a whole lot when you're talking a 30 some odd million dollar budget,
26:1226 minutes, 12 secondsbut it's still $60,000. Okay? And so,
26:1626 minutes, 16 secondsthat number can can fluctuate as we get in there. What you will see here the state portion uh estimates compared for
26:2526 minutes, 25 secondsthe current estimate versus what the SY26 final was. It's an increase of 354,000.
26:3326 minutes, 33 secondsUm we were hoping to see a little bit more than that. So we're looking at those numbers um and just to make sure
26:4126 minutes, 41 secondsour ADMs are where they need to be or are being reported the way they need to.
26:4726 minutes, 47 secondsI shouldn't correct myself on that. And then your local maintenance of effort.
26:5226 minutes, 52 secondsUm that is based off of what our budgeted numbers were last year. And so
26:5826 minutes, 58 secondsas you know, the county moves some dollars into the sales tax budget portion.
27:0827 minutes, 8 secondsSo that increased that maintenance of effort. Does not increase our revenues.
27:1327 minutes, 13 secondsIt just increases the maintenance of effort.
27:1727 minutes, 17 secondsthe sales tax revenues will always be whatever is 50% of what's collected. So,
27:2427 minutes, 24 secondsnot actually an increase in the revenues. So, again, we see that estimate right now at uh about a state funding increase of about $354,000.
27:3627 minutes, 36 secondsUm that will fluctuate as we go through and uh numbers are updated. We'll get
27:4327 minutes, 43 secondsour next estimate um maybe before we go on spring break. Probably not, but we'll have it to you for the April board
27:5127 minutes, 51 secondsmeeting and where we're at on that. Um so
27:5727 minutes, 57 secondsthe next page looks at two scenarios. Uh this was something um Mr. Hobs and I talked about not the
28:0728 minutes, 7 secondsscenarios in general, but at least to be able to look at some things as far as the possibilities. We know um let me go
28:1728 minutes, 17 secondson ahead and say this. I have not finalized uh this month's estimate of where we're going to be at year end. Not
28:2528 minutes, 25 secondscomfortable where I'm at on that yet. I hope to have that next week and I'll provide that to uh Mr. Hobbs. We do know
28:3328 minutes, 33 secondsthat last year we hit it at a little bit over uh a million dollars somewhere
28:3928 minutes, 39 secondsbetween 1.2 1.3 somewhere around in there. Um
28:4828 minutes, 48 secondsso we know we're playing in an area where we're going to hit our funds again um more than likely. And so as we look at these yesterday Yes.
28:5928 minutes, 59 secondsWhat how do you how do you feel about that amount again? I know I know this is hard. This is it's because it's moving it's a moving target, but
29:0729 minutes, 7 secondsnow how do you think we're going to finish this year?
29:1029 minutes, 10 secondsI'm not there yet to where I to where I want to give you an estimate yet. Um less than a million.
29:2029 minutes, 20 secondsMy gut is no, it will not be less than a million. I hope I'm wrong. Oh, well you are too that says a lot.
29:2629 minutes, 26 secondsBut no u I do not believe we will be and that wasn't what we presented to you all
29:3329 minutes, 33 secondslast year. We presented I think hitting somewhere around 2.4 in a worse realistic worst case scenario.
29:4329 minutes, 43 secondsUm if I if I recall correctly.
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondsWell go ahead. But yeah, uh I'm just not comfortable in that yet because um um I
29:5329 minutes, 53 secondsjust hadn't been able to dig enough as as I've been working on the budget side of it. Um so but I'll have that estimate
30:0330 minutes, 3 secondsfor you or for Mr. Hobbs next week and then he can do with it what he wants from there. Um so the next page is
30:1130 minutes, 11 secondslooking at a couple scenarios. So, we know we're we're probably running a deficit this year, which means if our funding doesn't increase significantly,
30:2130 minutes, 21 secondswe're probably running that again next year. Um, and so what obviously our highest cost is personnel related.
30:3130 minutes, 31 secondsUh we know that we have to do an increase to the minimum teacher salary,
30:3630 minutes, 36 secondswhich by the way where we're at is about 4.33%
30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsjust going from our minimum to what the state's minimum is. So what this scenario takes, you got two scenarios
30:5030 minutes, 50 secondshere that I work through. Please understand that uh if you look at the top of that page, I did not include transportation, maintenance or food
30:5730 minutes, 57 secondsservice just because I was running out of time trying to get this and it's not their portion would not be a significant
31:0431 minutes, 4 secondschange in the amount uh of what these dollars would would run into. Um
31:1331 minutes, 13 secondsso scenario one was taking our um teacher certified pay scale doing a step increase of 4.33%
31:2531 minutes, 25 secondswhere we could uh and if it didn't meet those other minimums and we had to make adjustments on that to meet those other
31:3431 minutes, 34 secondsminimums that are listed out there. uh it does not take into account any reduction in employees.
31:4231 minutes, 42 secondsUh it just takes this is just saying if we've got everybody we currently have this is kind of what these scenarios and it's only looking at the base salaries.
31:5331 minutes, 53 secondsIt's not looking at um taxes that's associated with that. It's
31:5931 minutes, 59 secondsnot looking at like um uh supplements that are associated with those. those would have a general uh percentage
32:0832 minutes, 8 secondsincrease that would that would be similar to that. But it's just looking at that salary aspect. It is looking at
32:1432 minutes, 14 secondsuh certified staff and support staff and it's broken out between 141 and 142. And
32:2232 minutes, 22 secondsso you can see the school year 2026 base salary scenario there uh as far as what
32:3132 minutes, 31 secondsour base would be for this year projected on these positions by taking a 4.33%
32:3732 minutes, 37 secondsstep u increase to the steps of the teacher salary and any other teacher any other
32:4632 minutes, 46 secondssalary that is based off a certified uh scale that has it as its base. Uh
32:5432 minutes, 54 secondswhat we did not do and this was per an initial discussion. It's not saying that's where we'll end up but I did not
33:0233 minutes, 2 secondsmake any increases to any of the other salary scales. We allowed those to just
33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsincrease by their steps uh and look at that. Um, so you'll see
33:1633 minutes, 16 secondsin scenario one with that that basically in fund 141, we would have somewhere around $650,000
33:2433 minutes, 24 secondsincrease in uh base salaries. For fund 142, our federal funding, it would be
33:3233 minutes, 32 secondsapproximately a 106,000. Again, these numbers could vary 10% either way based
33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsoff of hirings, based off of degrees that people get during the year. Uh,
33:4633 minutes, 46 secondssomeone increases their degree to an EDS from a master's.
33:5133 minutes, 51 secondsAnd we had three of them do it this year during the school year. Just so you know, our people are out there getting better education and making sure they're
33:5833 minutes, 58 secondsdoing things. So, that can impact that aspect of it. Scenario two took a similar thing. It took that 4.33%
34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsand did it. I think I'll have to go back and double check, but I think it was through years 11. And then what I did is
34:1734 minutes, 17 secondskind of did a step down off of that 4.33, but still needed to do some increases to the steps to keep that
34:2534 minutes, 25 secondsdispersement out there. But they were more around I think I took uh one and a half% off in the later years. um maybe
34:3534 minutes, 35 secondsjust 1% in years uh 11 through 20 um to look at how that would impact and you
34:4234 minutes, 42 secondscan see those numbers in relation to that uh as far as what we have there. So that's something for you to look at and
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondsthink about and then think about other scenarios that you would like for us to do. I will be do running other scenarios
34:5834 minutes, 58 secondson my own uh to look at that. Um, you guys got any questions? I'm talking way more than I
35:0735 minutes, 7 secondshad intended to talk, but I'm confused enough. So, I'm I'm good.
35:1235 minutes, 12 secondsNow, the other thing I gave you, I I really want you to take a look at that.
35:1735 minutes, 17 secondsAnd you don't have to take a look at it tonight, but I'm going to tell you what it is.
35:2235 minutes, 22 secondsSo it compares our teacher scale to four of the county three of the counties three of the counties that we touch. No,
35:3335 minutes, 33 secondsfour, excuse me, four of them. So it compares it to Murray, it compares it to
35:3935 minutes, 39 secondsWilliamson, it compares it to Lewis, and it compares it to Dixon.
35:4635 minutes, 46 secondsOkay? And what you have in that is you have all of those scales. You have the
35:5335 minutes, 53 secondsdifferences whether it's a positive difference or a negative difference and you have the percentage of what Hickman
36:0236 minutes, 2 secondsCounty is in comparison to theirs that will drive some of the decisions that
36:0836 minutes, 8 secondsyou all are going to need to make in relation to salaries and stuff. Uh and
36:1536 minutes, 15 secondsultimately what we need to ask the county for the last few years we've been chasing
36:2336 minutes, 23 secondsWilliams in Murray County. We can't get close to them.
36:2736 minutes, 27 secondsWell, and you know, five years ago, I think it's five or six years ago, we went realizing we could not match
36:3536 minutes, 35 secondsWilliamson, but we got several of our salaries within a reasonable area close to Williamson. Um,
36:4636 minutes, 46 secondsknowing our limitations, the thing that has happened, of course,
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsWilliamson has continued to increase at a significant amount. What has changed uh Murray and this is me just speaking
37:0037 minutesfrom what I have observed not from what anyone has told me but Murray got tired of losing teachers to Williamson County
37:0837 minutes, 8 secondsso Murray started doing significant raises and now if you compare their two they're
37:1737 minutes, 17 secondspretty close right there together. Um so counties that will touch them also
37:2737 minutes, 27 secondshave to address those things. So now you have you can see how we compare to uh our other two neighbors uh Lewis County and Dixon County.
37:3937 minutes, 39 secondsum where if we lose or we gain those have a tendency to be the places that we
37:4637 minutes, 46 secondslose and gain from as far as experienced teachers. Now we'll lose to Williamson,
37:5237 minutes, 52 secondswe'll lose to Murray. Um it looks like though that that starts making a big difference around
38:0038 minutesyou know the later years like the the first initial like maybe 10 12 years is pretty close and then after that it makes a big difference. It it's a big jump.
38:0938 minutes, 9 secondsWilliamson made a conscious effort several probably about seven or eight years ago, maybe longer than that, is
38:1638 minutes, 16 secondsthat they were going to go after level four and level five 21-year teachers.
38:2538 minutes, 25 secondsAnd you can see that in their pay scale change uh because they did a significant bump at year 21. And when I say
38:3438 minutes, 34 secondssignificant, if you uh probably on their old they don't I don't have their old pay scale in there, but it it was a
38:4138 minutes, 41 secondssignificant drive. And so their goal was to those counties that were touching them if they could poach some of those
38:5038 minutes, 50 secondsexperienced teachers that were near retirement.
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsThey had the money and the ability to do it and it benefited their schools. Um that's why we initially did what we did
39:0139 minutes, 1 secondseveral years ago to address that. Um that being said,
39:0839 minutes, 8 secondsit comes back and then you find you're not as caught up as you want to be. So,
39:2439 minutes, 24 secondswell, this is this is information we got to know and information we start on.
39:3139 minutes, 31 secondsWe'll get closer to it as we get some closer figures this
39:3939 minutes, 39 secondsinteresting budget year. I think we deal with since 2020. They've all been interesting. So,
39:4639 minutes, 46 secondsthey have very much so. Kind of floated along until that point.
39:5139 minutes, 51 secondsDo want you I think you all realize that that we've been working on it um
39:5739 minutes, 57 secondsfor a while. Um capital list. We have a capital list, but we're working on
40:0440 minutes, 4 secondsum giving you a prioritized list and trying to get some estimates. Uh we're also working with the maintenance
40:1240 minutes, 12 secondsdepartment and transportation on any bids that we need to go on ahead and get
40:1740 minutes, 17 secondsout. Um uh Mr. Newsome is looking online for That's the first time I've ever called him Mr. Newsome. That sounded
40:2640 minutes, 26 secondskind of weird. U but uh looking online for things through
40:3340 minutes, 33 secondscooperatives that we're allowed to do on purchases and stuff. uh we do have to take into account uh in this budget
40:4340 minutes, 43 secondsprocess uh the need for textbooks uh and
40:5140 minutes, 51 secondswon't ask uh Miss Manor to speak to that but that's a ever evolving thing and
40:5740 minutes, 57 secondsalso in relation to us being onetoone on Chromebooks and stuff and then some of the changes that the state may be doing
41:0641 minutes, 6 secondsin relation to grades K through five in relation to using technology versus going back to paper. That could impact
41:1541 minutes, 15 secondsuh our budget cycles u in many different ways. So, uh all of that's coming into
41:2241 minutes, 22 secondsplay. Uh hopefully the uh increase in fuel is is a brief thing,
41:2941 minutes, 29 secondsbut we will as always we budget for that increase with always expecting it hoping that it will be lower, but that may
41:3841 minutes, 38 secondsimpact the height of some of those things and the cost of of some of the utilities that are involved. Um, we do
41:4741 minutes, 47 secondshave areas that we're getting some reduction in cost in uh in relation to technology, just not knowing to what
41:5441 minutes, 54 secondsextent that stuff is right now at this point. Um, but again, we do have to do a
42:0242 minutes, 2 secondsnew uh student information system and we might have to carry our old one over for
42:0942 minutes, 9 secondsa few extra months just to make sure that everything. So that could be an additional cost that hasn't been in the
42:1642 minutes, 16 secondsbudget before. But again, we'll get into those details in April and well, pretty
42:2442 minutes, 24 secondsmuch April because then we'll be right in May. So feel good to hold up.
42:3742 minutes, 37 secondsIt's going to be an interesting year. Is there any scenarios you want me to run look at?
42:4642 minutes, 46 secondsWhat I will provide you is percentage increases just based off of steps that people are already in. Um, of course we
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondswon't identify any individuals or anything and um but we'll have those available to you in
43:0443 minutes, 4 secondsApril and we'll know how we better how we're going to finish this year.
43:1043 minutes, 10 secondsYeah, I I think I can get a pretty good estimate before we go on break. Uh I just wasn't comfortable in giving you anything yet.
43:2143 minutes, 21 secondsSorry. Do you have an idea of how many people will be impacted from you as far as how many people would that would in
43:2943 minutes, 29 secondsthese two scenarios how many people would get an increase?
43:3243 minutes, 32 secondsEveryone. Well, I'm not going to say everyone would see an increase. Uh but 99% would see an increase. Uh some of
43:4043 minutes, 40 secondsour salary schedules we changed a few years back to where they're they got
43:4743 minutes, 47 secondsmore money upfront in certain supervisory positions, princip
43:5343 minutes, 53 secondsprincipal position to make them more like what our competitors were doing and how they were getting paid. That is
44:0144 minutes, 1 secondsomething we would have to consider in looking at those scales. that if someone's in one of those one to fouryear period that has the same
44:1044 minutes, 10 secondssalary, if there would be something that we would want to do, if we're not able to do a a step increase to that, if we
44:1844 minutes, 18 secondswould need to do something else that that would be able to address that. So,
44:2444 minutes, 24 secondsno one's going to reduce down. Uh the majority of it will be an increase because the majority of our scales have
44:3344 minutes, 33 secondsstep increases in them already all the way up to 30 steps. The majority of them do.
44:4044 minutes, 40 secondsSo we don't have to be cautious of a segment not getting an increase and they potentially have to leave and we have to hire somebody else at a higher time than what they were making.
44:5044 minutes, 50 secondsWe have to there's a couple scales that we would have to look at that we have to be aware of. Yes.
45:0045 minutesUh number wise and this goes back to CTE. Um I'd like to hopefully sometime tell us
45:0945 minutes, 9 secondswhat the increase this year over last year number of students we had. I know it's an increase and uh cuz that helps
45:1745 minutes, 17 secondsthe pay and you think the middle school middle school may pay. So, and hopefully
45:2445 minutes, 24 secondshow much more can we look into that get more kids into that? You know, I think we're pretty close. What percentage? I'm not sure what percentage we are.
45:3445 minutes, 34 secondsWe can get the more fun.
45:4645 minutes, 46 secondsAny more questions?
45:5045 minutes, 50 secondsAny Oh, one question.
45:5645 minutes, 56 secondsHow's our roof at the East High School coming along? They had an accident last week.
46:0346 minutes, 3 secondsYes, they did. But they are working on it. I haven't we only meet on that one.
46:1146 minutes, 11 secondsKayla hasn't let me know that anything's gone bad except for that accident and that involved another contractor. Didn't involve didn't involve our student or teacher.
46:2046 minutes, 20 secondsWell, the point I'm trying to get is when this company going to plan on putting that roof on. They got any dates
46:2946 minutes, 29 secondsin They've already started. They've already started. Yes. Okay. So,
46:3346 minutes, 33 secondsyes, sir. And they they estimated it to be about a a four-week project, I think.
46:3846 minutes, 38 secondsFour week project. We didn't have them leave the floor, did we? Not that I've been told. Okay. Just rain we had.
46:4646 minutes, 46 secondsNot that I'm aware of. So,
46:5046 minutes, 50 secondsI don't want to just keep putting that off.
46:5446 minutes, 54 secondsThey started just a few days after the the region.
47:0047 minutesKayla asked them to wait until region got done. Yeah. So, but it look good that night.
47:0847 minutes, 8 secondsHopefully, it'll stay down.
47:1247 minutes, 12 secondsI'm interested when we go to go on capital budgets too. We're hoping that we can do something with that. Yeah.
47:1947 minutes, 19 secondsSimply go from there.
47:2847 minutes, 28 secondsWhat what's number? So the number one thing you need from us again just a recap of that if there's anything you specifically
47:3747 minutes, 37 secondswant to see a scenario you want to see and maybe it means that you need to talk with me a little bit more in detail or
47:4547 minutes, 45 secondssomething that's okay. Uh it's just I'm going to play out scenarios because there's several things that we don't
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsfully know yet. We don't know what our total funding will be. Uh I don't I'm not comfortable yet on what I think our
48:0248 minutes, 2 secondsyear end will be. I will be comfortable with that. As comfortable as I can get three months out. Um more com more
48:1048 minutes, 10 secondsright more comfortable. Um as we look it's just anything you
48:1848 minutes, 18 secondsspecifically want to know. Some of the things we don't know yet, don't have an ideal on insurance and insurance can
48:2548 minutes, 25 secondsdrive a lot. Uh, generally we budget somewhere between five and 7% increase.
48:3348 minutes, 33 secondsUh, I haven't seen numbers that I'm comfortable with to make that budget.
48:3848 minutes, 38 secondsAnd keep in mind, we budget, but we don't actually get the increase number until after the budget is done. So, uh,
48:4648 minutes, 46 secondswe don't even hear from the state what that will be until after the budget is done. So, we've got to, um,
48:5348 minutes, 53 secondsmake estimates based off of just put some budget there and put some money in there for that. Uh, retirement,
49:0249 minutes, 2 secondsum, numbers pretty much stay the same.
49:0649 minutes, 6 secondsSo, uh, it'll increase with obviously salaries and stuff. Um the only number
49:1349 minutes, 13 secondsthat our non-certified staff has a different percentage that gets calculated each year that's look quite a
49:2249 minutes, 22 secondsbit higher but that's a smaller portion of our budget but that can impact our budget also.
49:2949 minutes, 29 secondsDo you think there's a um I guess you go back over the ADNs and see if there's any money there like maybe that's
49:3849 minutes, 38 secondsYeah. And and we're looking at that cuz it can be as simple as not having uh correct code on something or something
49:4849 minutes, 48 secondsnot being marked as complete or when it has been completed. And that's why they give you these estimates because they
49:5649 minutes, 56 secondsknow one everything's not and and if new people come in in the next three months
50:0350 minutes, 3 secondsthat's going to give us more also. Uh but all of those things can change and it gives you time to look at those
50:1050 minutes, 10 secondsthings and and we are looking at them pretty hard in the time that we have and um
50:1950 minutes, 19 secondsyou do have a deadline because ultimately by the time you get it because they run it off of the 15 numbers but by the time you get it you're almost at the 15. So,
50:3050 minutes, 30 secondsyou're not going to get it updated or changed necessarily in time for the next one if there there's anything in there.
50:3850 minutes, 38 secondsBut, um um and if anyone wants to come look at those spreadsheets and spend some time with it and make sense of it,
50:4750 minutes, 47 secondscome on because it's uh fun stuff to look at.
50:5350 minutes, 53 secondsBut we are working on that and uh our supervisors are are great at looking at
50:5950 minutes, 59 secondsthat and and learning about it and so there's just a lot of little nuances
51:0651 minutes, 6 secondsthat come into play. Just remember TISA is a funding document and it's not an expenditure document.
51:1351 minutes, 13 secondsUh but down the road it could turn into an expenditure document to some extent
51:2351 minutes, 23 secondsmaybe. But so if there's anything you want to see,
51:2851 minutes, 28 secondsyou don't have to tell me tonight, but if you got anything specific you want to look at,
51:3451 minutes, 34 secondslet Mr. Hobs or Dr. Anderson know or or call me or call
51:4251 minutes, 42 secondsDebbie and she'll track me down. That's a better way to say it.
51:5551 minutes, 55 secondsWe need a motion for this work.
52:0252 minutes, 2 secondsEverybody's through. Thank you all for coming.
52:3252 minutes, 32 secondsWe were at Definitely.