https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJph-skgaG0
April 29th, 2026 - Special Called Board Meeting
Apr 29, 2026
Well, whatever works for
8:388 minutes, 38 seconds602. Excuse me for the delay. You can order something. Uh this is a voting session since we have a
8:478 minutes, 47 secondscouple things to vote on tonight. And uh we need a moment of silence, please.
9:039 minutes, 3 secondsThank you.
9:099 minutes, 9 secondsI aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under
9:189 minutes, 18 secondsGod, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
9:259 minutes, 25 secondsFirst item is trip request.
9:319 minutes, 31 secondsAnybody here? I think we have to approve the agenda. Yeah. Did they pull it? We have to approve the agenda.
9:389 minutes, 38 secondsYeah. The agenda. We got to get Oh, yeah. Oh, it's not Oh, I did it again.
9:459 minutes, 45 secondsMotion for the agenda approving from a April 29th.
9:489 minutes, 48 secondsI'll make a motion to We have a motion. Do I have a second? I second. All in favor? Say I. All oppose.
9:559 minutes, 55 secondsNow, trip request. Sorry. Okay. So, I'm here tonight on behalf of Charlotte Beams, culinary instructor at East
10:0310 minutes, 3 secondsHickman. She is requesting for up to four students to attend the national competition in Washington DC, July 6th
10:1110 minutes, 11 secondsthrough 10th. Um, in your packet on page two, there is a date that was listed incorrectly as June 6th through 10th.
10:1810 minutes, 18 secondsHowever, the rest of the documentation in your packet is correct. Um, this is based on the outcome of their April
10:2510 minutes, 25 secondscompetition in Chattanooga. two students place second and third in baking and pastry which allows them to compete at
10:3210 minutes, 32 secondsthe national level. Now, um we also had two students that earned first place in the public service announcement
10:4010 minutes, 40 secondscompetition. That is not a national event, but since they placed so high in that competition, they are eligible to compete in the leadership and career activities at the national competition.
10:5210 minutes, 52 secondsYes, they did amazing. Um, so she could have up to four students attend this trip. She will be attending and then we
11:0011 minuteshave a parent of one of the students who would like to chaperone. She will go through the background check and go through that process to be approved to be a parent chaperone.
11:1011 minutes, 10 secondsUm, the cost is expected to be a little over $5,000.
11:1511 minutes, 15 secondsThe students will be paying part of that fee. However, we are looking at some funding sources to help offset that cost.
11:2311 minutes, 23 secondsAll right. Well, they come up with the money and that is a good experience that group has done exceptionally well every year. They they have done phenomenally well.
11:3111 minutes, 31 secondsUm I will note that they do have to travel in the CTE van. They do have to take some equipment and supplies to this competition. So, they will be driving in the CTE van. Okay.
11:4011 minutes, 40 secondsTo Washington DC.
11:4111 minutes, 41 secondsLet's hope they can get the funding. I see them not.
11:4311 minutes, 43 secondsYes. I I think we're going to come out good with that.
11:4611 minutes, 46 secondsOkay. Great. Need a motion to approve the trip request.
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondsI'll make a motion. We approve the trip request. I'll second.
11:5311 minutes, 53 secondsWe have a motion second. All in favor say I. Any opposed? Thank you. Thank you.
11:5911 minutes, 59 secondsAnd F e HHS U FCCA LA. Mhm.
12:0612 minutes, 6 secondsThat was Yeah. Okay. Cold. I'm going to put my glasses on.
12:1212 minutes, 12 secondsOh, yeah. All right. Budget time. Budget time.
12:1912 minutes, 19 secondsGood night.
12:2212 minutes, 22 secondsJust a short moment to get set up. I've given you some handouts. Um,
12:2712 minutes, 27 secondswe'll go over those handouts. I'm going to move this podium because unless you all want me to stand, my preference is
12:3612 minutes, 36 secondsto sit today. Uh, not because I expect this to be long, but uh, we could be. So,
12:4412 minutes, 44 secondswe'll just see how that goes. Let's see if we can get this TV working.
13:0213 minutes, 2 secondsIs this the right
13:1813 minutes, 18 secondscoming on?
13:2913 minutes, 29 secondsNot.
13:3613 minutes, 36 secondsIs there an input button on this thing on the left side?
13:5213 minutes, 52 secondsThis is the bottom one.
14:1814 minutes, 18 secondselectronic stuff just doesn't cooperate. Yeah,
14:2114 minutes, 21 secondstrouble with that TV. which has the shield.
14:2614 minutes, 26 secondsWhich one's down here?
14:3714 minutes, 37 secondsWhich one you think we are?
14:3814 minutes, 38 secondsI think it's two, but let me double check. Yes, two.
14:5814 minutes, 58 secondsYeah, I provided you some handouts and we'll kind of go through the handouts.
15:0215 minutes, 2 secondsHopefully I go in order in relation to them. You should have this page is uh
15:1015 minutes, 10 secondsalso included in the actual budget um worksheet document. It just gives an
15:1615 minutes, 16 secondsexplanation of some of the things as far as as we put this budget together, some
15:2415 minutes, 24 secondsof the scenarios that we are looking at uh in this uh do you all have that?
15:3315 minutes, 33 secondsOkay. So, if you if there's anything you don't have, please let me know and we'll be sure to get them to you. Um, but
15:4215 minutes, 42 secondsagain, this is just kind of to review this. One of the things that we do have to meet this year is on teacher salary.
15:4815 minutes, 48 secondsWe have to get to a minimum teacher salary of 50,000. To get to that minimum teacher salary of 50,000, we have to
15:5515 minutes, 55 secondsincrease the minimum teacher pay uh by 4.33%.
16:0016 minutesTraditionally over the years when we would do an increase uh to the teacher skill, we would include that at every
16:0816 minutes, 8 secondsstep level. We have not done that this year in relation to this budget. We made some adjustments in the out years in
16:1816 minutes, 18 secondsrelation to 4.33 and uh significantly lower from a percentage standpoint in
16:2716 minutes, 27 secondssome of those. Uh but that um there were still increases that were involved in that. any of the scales that did not
16:3616 minutes, 36 secondsinclude um or were not based on the certified salary schedule, we did not do increases
16:4516 minutes, 45 secondsto those. We have allowed those to just the increases for this year would would be based off the step increases. There
16:5416 minutes, 54 secondsare a few of our salary schedules that the increases uh or the steps do not necessarily have increases on those.
17:0317 minutes, 3 secondsThose are at some of our supervisor schedules just so you know. Also on the medical insurance, what we have done is
17:1017 minutes, 10 secondswe went through uh revisited this a couple of times uh but to make sure we were only focusing on uh what our
17:2017 minutes, 20 secondsprojected expenditures for 2026 from our medical benefits. And just to cover those, we provide 70%
17:3017 minutes, 30 secondsuh of insurance premiums uh for um family
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondsum uh employee spouse, employee children. We also provide up to 7,900
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsfor employee only if they do not um participate in the insurance program for
17:5317 minutes, 53 secondscertified staff. there's $3,900 that is used towards benefits that they
17:5917 minutes, 59 secondscan apply with American Fidelity and for uh non-certified staff there's $2,000
18:0618 minutes, 6 secondsthat's available for doing that. Um so that's in relation to the medical
18:1418 minutes, 14 secondsinsurance in this initial draft. The personnel that is included in here is
18:2118 minutes, 21 secondsour current level of personnel. Uh that is in our 141 budget. Uh and so we know
18:3118 minutes, 31 secondsthat there are some things that uh may have to be addressed in that and we can talk about that as we go. In the teacher
18:3918 minutes, 39 secondsline item, the 71 100 1116, we included five additional positions,
18:4718 minutes, 47 secondsbudgeted positions,
18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsum to allow us room if uh for multiple reasons. if we have to hire a teacher or
18:5718 minutes, 57 secondstwo at the start of the year due to classroom size changes. Uh I think as
19:0319 minutes, 3 secondssome of you realize um in our system that
19:1019 minutes, 10 seconds5 to 10 new students that come in August that we weren't aware of can take us out of ratio in a uh grade level to where
19:2019 minutes, 20 secondsyou may need to all of a sudden go you were at six and you need to go to seven.
19:2619 minutes, 26 secondsUh it doesn't mean that you're going to have 20 in each class when you go to seven. that may mean that you've gone down to 15 or or something like that.
19:3519 minutes, 35 secondsBut those ratios can happen and they do happen on a regular basis from year to year. I would say we have at least one of those we
19:4419 minutes, 44 secondshave to address each year and sometimes multiple ones, but that's okay. Uh those are also in there if we have people go
19:5219 minutes, 52 secondson leave or we have some needs that we need to address that we were not able to
20:0020 minutesforesee in relation to when we were doing the budget. Uh so we can have
20:0720 minutes, 7 secondsteachers that go on leave that have sick days and substantial ones and so we're paying two people at that point in time
20:1520 minutes, 15 secondsto cover that class because we would have to bring in a certified teacher to serve during that year. And uh so currently we have that amount in there.
20:2620 minutes, 26 secondsUm that's just a scenario that we've created initially.
20:3220 minutes, 32 secondsum state retirement, we have had some increases in that. The legacy program,
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsuh which probably about half of our teachers are still on the legacy program. I should have got you an exact count and I will get that and provide
20:4720 minutes, 47 secondsthat at Monday night's meeting just so uh you're able to see that. uh has increased from 6.35 or from 5.77%
20:5820 minutes, 58 secondsto 6.35%
21:0121 minutes, 1 secondas far as our contribution in relation to that. The hybrid will remain at 9%
21:0821 minutes, 8 secondsthat probably will not change. Uh anyone hired after I think it's 2015 went on
21:1421 minutes, 14 secondsthe hybrid program. Um, and uh, by the way, the TCRS
21:2021 minutes, 20 secondsplans are very good plans as far as how they're structured. Um, they're uh, and
21:3121 minutes, 31 secondsu the, the competency of them, how they're funded, and their levels are they're considered some of the uh,
21:3921 minutes, 39 secondssafest plans uh, in the country. So um we don't have to be concerned that those
21:4621 minutes, 46 secondsretirement dollars will go away. Um also the non-certified rate has increased um to 13.37%.
21:5621 minutes, 56 secondsUm that uh this past year was 12.09%. The year before that it was 11.39%.
22:0422 minutes, 4 secondsUh and so that is an increase that will do some increases in our expenditures in
22:1322 minutes, 13 secondsrelation to personnel. Um some of the other things that we have looked at this we have increased our line item for textbooks this year 175,000.
22:2622 minutes, 26 secondsUm brought it up to some odd thousand. We'll talk about that here in a minute.
22:3322 minutes, 33 secondsum as we briefly go through the pages and do overviews on them. Uh but 325,000
22:4322 minutes, 43 secondsuh for this year. Over the next two years, we are anticipating with our adoption levels somewhere between having
22:5222 minutes, 52 secondsto spend 650 to 700,000 on textbooks over the next two years. uh because we're in that
23:0023 minutesadoption cycle. Can't remember is it social studies or science this year and then one of the other ones next year u
23:0823 minutes, 8 secondsthat's in relation to that. So that's a significant uh purchase that we have not had to include in the budget over the last
23:1723 minutes, 17 secondsthree years. Um also um we are now
23:2323 minutes, 23 secondsuh where we because we got to one to one uh with funding basically from uh the
23:3223 minutes, 32 secondsfederal government in relation to the co dollars for lack of a better term and the need to get to one to one as far as
23:4023 minutes, 40 secondsum uh Chromebooks and stuff for our our students. We are now in the process of having to fund each year to replace a
23:4823 minutes, 48 secondscertain amount of those. We're on about uh 3 to 400 a year based off a need and
23:5623 minutes, 56 secondswe'll budget three to four. We'll budget about 400 of them a year. That does not mean that we'll purchase 400 a year.
24:0324 minutes, 3 secondsWe'll only purchase based off a need,
24:0624 minutes, 6 secondsbut we will do that budget because that's about the 8year cycle. You think that we've seven to eight year cycle
24:1324 minutes, 13 secondsthat most of these can be on and drag can correct me on those year uh estimates but I think that's kind of the
24:2124 minutes, 21 secondscycle that we're on right now. Um this budget does not include capital
24:3024 minutes, 30 secondsprojects at this time. Uh we'll talk about capital projects uh at the very end. So this is really an operating
24:3824 minutes, 38 secondsbudget and as we look at these things we budget a reasonable worst case scenario
24:4524 minutes, 45 secondsreasonable worst case scenario and then we look at a likely scenario based off
24:5224 minutes, 52 secondsof prior year uh percentages of revenue and expenditures.
24:5924 minutes, 59 secondsAnd then from that, as we operate during the year, we try to only spend what we
25:0525 minutes, 5 secondsneed to spend, not what we've budgeted to spend. Uh most people, if you've worked in federal government or in state
25:1425 minutes, 14 secondsgovernment, uh you know, you spend everything you're budgeted because you
25:2125 minutes, 21 secondsgenerally will get those funds for the next year. You don't spend them. We have never operated that way. We have
25:2925 minutes, 29 secondsbudgeted under the scenarios that we felt we needed to budget and then we spend as we need to not as we not to
25:3925 minutes, 39 secondsspend all our funds. Uh and so that's why you will see us come under budget in
25:4625 minutes, 46 secondscertain line items quite a bit. There's a lot of volatility that we have to take into account uh especially now with uh
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondssome of our uh utilities and transportation fuels. Um we budgeted a
26:0226 minutes, 2 secondssignificant amount last year for transportation fuels in two of those line items. We are going to have to make budget amendments because we are
26:1026 minutes, 10 secondsexceeding those right now. And so you'll see a budget amendment uh on Monday night uh in relation to diesel and in relation to gasoline.
26:2126 minutes, 21 secondsUm so as we look to budget for that in this year we have to budget we do look
26:3026 minutes, 30 secondsat forecast but we look at forecast based off of the current dollars and if there's a reasonable forecast if we
26:3926 minutes, 39 secondswould have forecasted this um the second week of February we would have been budgeting at the exact same
26:4726 minutes, 47 secondsrate that we have budgeted uh over the pl past few years. Uh that same forecast
26:5426 minutes, 54 secondsnow is requiring us to budget quite a bit higher in those line items. Not significantly because we had enough
27:0227 minutes, 2 secondscushion in some of those to where we didn't have to increase significantly, but we did have some increase in that.
27:0927 minutes, 9 secondsAnd so what that does is when you look at your actual expenditures or projected expenditures against your
27:1827 minutes, 18 secondsworst case scenario budget, you're going to be closer to that because you no longer have the cushion that that's uh
27:2627 minutes, 26 secondsin relation to that. Uh on the budgeted revenue side for this what we looked at and we discussed this the other day we
27:3327 minutes, 33 secondsdid include our March estimate for TISA the state portion of TISA which was
27:3927 minutes, 39 secondsestimated at 25 million uh 38,237
27:4527 minutes, 45 secondsthat was an increase from the final TISA for 2025
27:5227 minutes, 52 secondsof $3229,000 roughly. And um we used
27:5927 minutes, 59 secondsuh in this initial revenue part um looking at the budgeted revenues
28:0728 minutes, 7 secondsum relevant or that would be also happening in 2027 and used those budgeted revenues
28:1628 minutes, 16 secondsum basically the same. I did look at some of the projections for year end and if there was a place we could lower or a
28:2428 minutes, 24 secondsplace we needed to go up, we made some small adjustments to that. We'll talk about revenues at the end of this as a
28:3128 minutes, 31 secondswhole. Uh and so you see there on the 2027,
28:3828 minutes, 38 secondsthose are the budgeted expenditures and budgeted revenues with a deficit showing of 5.9 million. for everyone to hear
28:4728 minutes, 47 secondsthis. 5.9 million is not the deficit that we're going to run unless something
28:5228 minutes, 52 secondsterrible was to happen. Okay? So, we take historically some of the things that we have. I'm going to play with
29:0229 minutes, 2 secondsthese numbers of when I say play, I'm going to go in and revisit them a little bit more uh before our meeting on Monday
29:0829 minutes, 8 secondsnight um uh to to make sure we're in a scenario
29:1629 minutes, 16 secondsshowing uh what we what our reasonable estimate would be. I do think this is a
29:2429 minutes, 24 secondslittle high, but based off our current projection, and I will have you another year in projection
29:3129 minutes, 31 secondsuh with April dollars on Monday night also, but based off our current projection
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsuh for this year of right close to hitting fund balance at about 2 million.
29:4329 minutes, 43 secondsAgain, that could change um uh with u the expenditures for April as we use
29:5129 minutes, 51 secondsthose to help us make that estimate. But this would be reasonable with some of the adjustments that we've had to go in
29:5929 minutes, 59 secondsthere and do. Uh I do think it's a little high though. But that being said,
30:0530 minutes, 5 secondswe have uh the last two years we have hit fund balance. Last year we hit about 1.275. 275 million and the year before that we hit at 653,000.
30:1830 minutes, 18 secondsWhat kept us from hitting those at higher amounts last year is we still had semester dollars that we were able to
30:2630 minutes, 26 secondsapply to roughly $250,000 of salary line items.
30:3430 minutes, 34 secondsuh and some other aspects in that that we were able to offset some of our 141
30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsexpenditures at that time. Um obviously over the years with the ers uh
30:4830 minutes, 48 secondswe've been able to address some of our capital needs. Um roughly we had um
30:5630 minutes, 56 secondsroughly $10 million in the three different ESER funding levels and uh some of that addressed personnel needs
31:0531 minutes, 5 secondsand some of that addressed uh infrastructure needs, HVAC units,
31:1131 minutes, 11 secondsuh sewer line that u had a problem at one of the elementary schools and uh doors and windows at some of our schools.
31:2231 minutes, 22 secondsthe upgrading of those uh along with some air handlers and things like that.
31:2731 minutes, 27 secondsSo, those were things that were not in our 141 budget that we would have had to
31:3531 minutes, 35 secondsaddress with $141, but have been able not to address those over the year. Um,
31:4131 minutes, 41 secondsso that's just a summary of that. on the next page of that. And I'm going to have to turn this over. We did
31:4831 minutes, 48 secondsget our April uh if I hit the right button here. We
31:5431 minutes, 54 secondsdid get our April TSA estimate and I would like to tell you that it is positive news. It is not.
32:0432 minutes, 4 secondsUh Tasser and Sver uh items came in. We'll talk about that a
32:1232 minutes, 12 secondslittle bit here uh as we go down this page. You can see at the top that our ADMs
32:2032 minutes, 20 secondsfor this estimate uh was um 2,850.83.
32:3232 minutes, 32 secondsI'm trying to find a sheet that I can address some things on. Sorry.
32:4032 minutes, 40 secondsI had that sent out that was a small reduction of about 5.3 ADM 5.43 ADM 80s
32:4832 minutes, 48 secondsis average daily membership. I'm not going to give you a whole TISA lesson uh on this but uh TISA funding is based off
32:5732 minutes, 57 secondsof ADM average daily membership and that's people that is enrolled in our school
33:0533 minutes, 5 secondssystem. The base has increased this year from 7280 to 7530.
33:1233 minutes, 12 secondsBut that does not mean that that is the state dollars that is state and local dollars combined on the base. You have
33:2133 minutes, 21 secondsseveral categories down through there uh that you can look at the ADMs concentrated poverty uh sparse um and
33:3033 minutes, 30 secondseach of those get some additional funding. work at Senator Sparse County because of how spread out we are and our population size. So, we'll get uh 5%
33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsadditional funding. Uh in relation to that the uln's address bed fed and
33:4733 minutes, 47 secondsum dyslexia and uh elelll students and so as their
33:5633 minutes, 56 secondsservices are provided they fall in the type of services that they receive fall in those cateories. There was not a
34:0334 minutes, 3 secondssignificant reduction. I think I told you at the last meeting that uh our sped department has been going over those
34:1234 minutes, 12 secondsnumbers uh in their system that's with the state to make sure everything's coded correctly uh and uh that the
34:2034 minutes, 20 secondsservices that we are providing we're getting the TISA funding for. Keep in mind TISA funding runs a year behind. So
34:2834 minutes, 28 secondscurrent year numbers are for funding for next year. the numbers for next year will help on the funding uh for the year
34:3734 minutes, 37 secondsthat follows. And then you also have some direct funding that's associated there. We did not see a significant TISA
34:4534 minutes, 45 secondschange in CTE or um um sped. I think it was about $2,000 on both of them. When
34:5434 minutes, 54 secondswe looked at it, uh it was there was a $40,000 reduction almost a $41,000
35:0335 minutes, 3 secondsreduction on the amount of TISA funds on this estimate versus the amount uh in March.
35:1635 minutes, 16 secondsSo, you would think that that would only impact us $40,000, did it not? Because
35:2235 minutes, 22 secondsthe new uh SBER and Tasser um calculations came in and they are and you have this included in your packet.
35:3335 minutes, 33 secondsUh this handout should be stable together. At the very end, you'll see local contribution. This whole capacity explains.
35:4235 minutes, 42 secondsIt doesn't necessarily explain exactly how what Tasser and Sber are or how they're calculated. It does tell you what they are and where they come from.
35:5335 minutes, 53 secondsAnd what they do is they calculate the economic capacity for the whole state of Tennessee.
36:0136 minutes, 1 secondAnd on the page that I'm on here now in
36:0636 minutes, 6 secondsthe uh TISA document, you'll see on this line that I'm moving
36:1336 minutes, 13 secondsuh across here county FY27 fistal capacity and you'll see it says.15%
36:2536 minutes, 25 secondsuh twice you'll see that on there and we are not actually 0.15% that's a rounded
36:3336 minutes, 33 secondsnumber. Uh not that you want to know the exact but if you wanted to get to somewhat close to the exact uh it's.145868544%.
36:4836 minutes, 48 secondsSo it's not 15. I say that because the actual change in it from what the March
36:5736 minutes, 57 secondsestimate was was the change was 03717%.
37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsThat's 3,000th of a percent numerical change, not a percentage
37:1337 minutes, 13 secondscomparison to the two. It's a little bit more than a 2% increase, but as far as our fiscal capacity change in relation
37:2237 minutes, 22 secondsto the rest of the state, it was 0.3717%.
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsDown at the bottom of that, you're going to see at the very bottom the total TISA funding number of 29,24583.36.
37:4137 minutes, 41 secondsYou will see a local number. You're going to see a state number and then you're going to see a state number
37:4837 minutes, 48 secondsexcluding postsecary tests. That number has gone down. That state portion
37:5537 minutes, 55 secondsestimate now for us has gone down to 25 million22,93428.
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsThat is $144,72656 less than what the estimate was last
38:1438 minutes, 14 secondsmonth. So that's less TISA dollars that were projected to get mainly that's because of the economic capacity change.
38:2538 minutes, 25 secondsOkay. So when you go back up to what we said initially on this that TISA was
38:3338 minutes, 33 seconds$329,000 more. It's no longer $329,000 more. The estimate is going to be about
38:4238 minutes, 42 secondsdoing quick math in my head about $180,000.
38:4838 minutes, 48 secondsCan you explain the economic capacity change? The way I yeah the way I understand it is tass there are two
38:5738 minutes, 57 secondsdifferent economic um identities uh and it gives this in
39:0439 minutes, 4 secondshere uh one is through the boy center for business at the university of Tennessee that's the sver passer is
39:1339 minutes, 13 secondsTennessee advisory commission on intergovernmental intergovernmental relations the way I understand it and I don't what all they take into account.
39:2239 minutes, 22 secondsThey do two different calculations.
39:2539 minutes, 25 secondsThat's why they take the average, but basically they're looking at the state of Tennessee and all of the funding
39:3339 minutes, 33 secondsaspects for the school systems. They don't just do this for the school systems. It's for everything. But they're looking at if
39:4139 minutes, 41 secondsyou took the economic capacity of the state of Tennessee, this is the way I understand it, and I could be wrong. If anyone wants to send me correction, send
39:5039 minutes, 50 secondsit to me in an email. But that would be one one hole.
39:5639 minutes, 56 secondsOkay. The 0.14 or 15% is our portion of that hole.
40:0640 minutes, 6 secondsThat's our economic capacity. So when our economic capacity increases
40:1240 minutes, 12 secondsand what it's doing it compares everyone across the state someone else's economic capacity is decreasing
40:2140 minutes, 21 secondsthe dollar of the state's GDP effectively. Yes. But as you saw right there,
40:2740 minutes, 27 secondsa3,000th of a percent change for us
40:3740 minutes, 37 secondswas $140,000 hit the economic portion.
40:4340 minutes, 43 secondsSo we are rewarded based on being more economically.
40:4940 minutes, 49 secondsNo, it just well it's a logical way of doing things. It just says, "Look,
40:5340 minutes, 53 secondsyou're economically you guys are doing better.
40:5740 minutes, 57 secondsYou can pay more.
40:5940 minutes, 59 secondsYour local can address."
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsUm that does not those numbers that are in there for the local is not the maintenance of effort number. The
41:1041 minutes, 10 secondsmaintenance of effort number is also in um the uh uh TISA calculation and it's
41:1841 minutes, 18 secondsthere at the bottom and that's the local funding portion and there are several of those revenue sources that make up that
41:2741 minutes, 27 secondslocal funding and we'll talk briefly about those as we go. Um but yeah, it's basically our portion of the GDP.
41:3741 minutes, 37 secondsThat may be the best way to say it for people that understand GDP.
41:4441 minutes, 44 secondsOkay, any questions on that? And so I did give you the sheet that from the piece of document that explains that and
41:5141 minutes, 51 secondsalso explains a little bit of maintenance of effort in relation to that.
41:5941 minutes, 59 secondsnext page that you have. What's the next section I gave you all?
42:0642 minutes, 6 secondsLook at I tried to lay them out in order.
42:1342 minutes, 13 secondsWhere do you guys want to go? Let's talk about tax rate because I did give you that at the end.
42:1942 minutes, 19 secondsOkay, this is not a certified through the state yet. They have to certify it,
42:2442 minutes, 24 secondsbut this is what the county believes we're going to be at. I handed I think I handed this out to you all as a last
42:3042 minutes, 30 secondsthing. So there this was a reertification year. Uh a lot of us got notices saying
42:3942 minutes, 39 secondsthat our uh stuff went up and everyone started freaking out and panicking. Uh
42:4542 minutes, 45 secondsbut what you'll notice is that the pennies have gone down and the value of the penny has gone up. So, yes,
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondseverything has been re-evaluated. They have to do that every so often. I forget exactly how when that is. I think it's
43:0343 minutes, 3 secondsevery five, but I could be wrong on that. has to be certified through the state and the pennies adjusted. But the
43:1043 minutes, 10 secondsamount of property tax is not adjusted except for I think new residential
43:1943 minutes, 19 secondsbuildings or new uh I could be wrong on that but I think that's does end up being an adjustment part. Um and so
43:2743 minutes, 27 secondscurrently the penny is expected to be worth 84.191.
43:3243 minutes, 32 secondsOur portion of that based off of our percentage portion last year is uh 33.69
43:4243 minutes, 42 secondsuh or that 3369 is roughly 19 and some% of the property
43:4943 minutes, 49 secondstax that uh is pennies that are out there available. So
43:5943 minutes, 59 secondsSo is that less tax revenues? Is that less tax revenue? No, it actually that
44:0544 minutes, 5 secondsuh re-evaluation part is an increase of we're at budgeted at 2,773
44:1344 minutes, 13 secondsthis year. So, um if you budget that 2836 Whoops, I just closed that.
44:2444 minutes, 24 secondsSorry about that. But 2025, didn't we get 3.1 mill? So, so
44:3144 minutes, 31 secondstax rates explaining on the property tax house budget property tax is budgeted at 93%
44:4044 minutes, 40 secondsof the home. Okay? So, it we can't adjust that. Everyone the the county's
44:4844 minutes, 48 secondsbudget is the same way. It's budgeted at 93%. you expect in good years to get 100% of your property tax because people
44:5744 minutes, 57 secondsdon't want to be delinquent on property tax. So you are your actual revenues are going to exceed your budgeted because
45:0645 minutes, 6 secondsyou're budgeting you have to budget at 93%. We cannot budget that. We
45:1345 minutes, 13 secondsdo not have control of what that budgeted number is. The revenues come in high and they do every year. uh in year
45:2245 minutes, 22 secondswell I shouldn't say every year there's probably been years where we didn't get the 93%.
45:2745 minutes, 27 secondsBut uh in years where 100% is not ch uh paid the following year you'll have some
45:3445 minutes, 34 secondsdelinquency dollars that come in and that's also in our budgeted line items and estimated as far as delinquencies
45:4345 minutes, 43 secondsthat may come in. But that's always budgeted at 93%. The county budgets serves at 93% that's the number that
45:5045 minutes, 50 secondsthey give us and then the collections always exceed that. So that's going to be higher than that.
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondsSo that number that we see on the piece of paper is 93%.
46:0046 minutesOn the budgeted yes on that's the budgeted amount. Yes.
46:3346 minutes, 33 secondsSo if you want we can begin looking at some of the expenditure pages. You have um some toal data in there. I do want to
46:4346 minutes, 43 secondsum give this caveat on this uh FY22, FY23, FY24, FY25. The only
46:5146 minutes, 51 secondsthing I'm comparing that I pulled from them. So if you went into our FY22,
46:5846 minutes, 58 secondsthe total expenditures are going to be a little bit higher because I pulled out grants
47:0547 minutes, 5 secondsthat we are not that that we do not have at this time. Uh I have not included ISM
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsin in this. I've not included any of the grants other than the grants that come through uh TISA and I've also included
47:2347 minutes, 23 secondsan estimate for our uh voluntary prek program. We do not have those exact
47:3047 minutes, 30 secondsdollars yet, but we do know that basically around amount of what that
47:3647 minutes, 36 secondsfunding will be and what our matching will have to be. uh it won't change what
47:4447 minutes, 44 secondsour expenditures are. It can change some of our expenditures, but we know we have the uh four classrooms, I believe.
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsUh and so we'll have four teachers, one assistant in each of those and u uh
48:0148 minutes, 1 secondproceed from there. So that's we'll we'll probably have to make an adjustment to that in in July uh once
48:1048 minutes, 10 secondsthe budget's it's already been approved and we have those actual dollars that are on there. So again, this budget and
48:1848 minutes, 18 secondsthese expenditures does take into account current staffing. That does not mean does not mean that that's what our
48:2748 minutes, 27 secondsexpenditures will be for staffing. Uh we do know right now that we probably have
48:3448 minutes, 34 secondsa reduction in uh teaching positions of about 2.5 positions.
48:4248 minutes, 42 secondsUm and there could be more as we're looking at things, but that's where we're at
48:5048 minutes, 50 secondsright now. We do know this. Um as you all know, a few years ago, we started uh
48:5748 minutes, 57 secondsthe growing your own program. We have three uh uh employees
49:0549 minutes, 5 secondsuh who are current employees who are finishing that this year. And part of that is that we have to provide them a
49:1249 minutes, 12 secondsteaching position um for the next three years. Uh hopefully we provide it to them a lot
49:1949 minutes, 19 secondslonger than that because they're all uh will be good teachers.
49:2449 minutes, 24 secondsuh but as the board approved that program of grow your own part of that is that we have to assure them of those
49:3449 minutes, 34 secondspositions. So in places where we've had some some attrition uh we are looking at
49:4349 minutes, 43 secondswhere we can place them and we're currently we do not have to add positions to do that.
49:5149 minutes, 51 secondsSo that's a positive on that. Uh also in relation to that and I think you are here. Yes.
49:5949 minutes, 59 secondsWe have paused for this year. We are not adding anyone into the grow your own program. We still
50:0750 minutes, 7 secondshave two more cohorts or two cohorts co cohorts going through uh for the next
50:1450 minutes, 14 secondstwo years. Uh we're pausing for a year uh and then we'll re-evaluate next year.
50:2050 minutes, 20 secondsdoes not mean that we've gotten out the program, but uh we are not doing the work of your own in this budget at this
50:2750 minutes, 27 secondsmoment. Um so so why why are we pausing? Is it because
50:3450 minutes, 34 secondswe don't expect to need them? Why the fear of not needing them? the the if
50:4450 minutes, 44 secondsstaff reductions are needed and we're required to fill their positions
50:5250 minutes, 52 secondsthat could cause us to have to add positions that are not needed at that point in time because it is a
51:0051 minutesrequirement or we have to refund the dollars that are associated for that individual in that program over that
51:0951 minutes, 9 secondsthreeyear period. So, it's an expense that would catch up to that we would have to pay
51:1551 minutes, 15 secondseither way. And so, as we're looking at the budget and uh we have not had the
51:2351 minutes, 23 secondsattrition that we expected probably uh as in years past. Uh and so we felt right now with our commitments to the
51:3251 minutes, 32 secondsremaining ones and uh not the uncertainty of the budget but where we're at from a budget standpoint and
51:3951 minutes, 39 secondshitting fund balance u that it was a good time to pause it for a year uh and re-evaluate
51:4851 minutes, 48 secondsuh going into next year. So, thank you for that question because I probably didn't make that clear. And if I need to
51:5651 minutes, 56 secondsspeak up, please tell me. I think you guys know I can talk real loud, but sometimes I can uh talk very quiet also.
52:0452 minutes, 4 secondsUh so,
52:0652 minutes, 6 secondsum the budget is there what it is. some of the significance increases and I did
52:1352 minutes, 13 secondsnot put in as many notes in here as I wanted to um for what you'll ultimately
52:2052 minutes, 20 secondshave on Monday night also to do the final vote on. I'll try and have this cleaned up a little bit with a little
52:2852 minutes, 28 secondsbit better notes. Um one so during the year as you're looking at a budget uh
52:3552 minutes, 35 secondsand seeing things you know what's in each of those line items. 71100. All the 71s are our instructional programs. So
52:4452 minutes, 44 secondswe have 71100 which are regular instruction program, 71200 which is our sped instruction. Uh and 71300 which is
52:5352 minutes, 53 secondsour CTE instruction. Um so uh I have provided you and I want to jump to that briefly.
53:0453 minutes, 4 secondsUm, on this you have a bigger sheet of paper sitting around your desk that has
53:1253 minutes, 12 secondsemployee count number. It's a little bit of a busy paper. Um,
53:1953 minutes, 19 secondsthese are accurate to my knowledge, but again, I will be reviewing those and going over those the next two days as
53:2853 minutes, 28 secondsI've gone over all of this stuff multiple times. um um
53:3553 minutes, 35 secondsjust to be sure on our things. So, let me open that up and let's just go through the personnel aspect a little
53:4353 minutes, 43 secondsbit if it printed off right. If you'll take that to 71100 at the top, and I know this one is a hard one to read on
53:5153 minutes, 51 secondsyour pages, but it will show you current actual budget actual positions for the current year in there and the budgeted
54:0054 minutespositions for that line item. Told you we've budgeted five additional positions currently in that 71 10016 line item.
54:1154 minutes, 11 secondsYou'll also see personnel that relates to uh our educational services uh
54:1854 minutes, 18 secondseducational assistance, excuse me. Um in the 71100 and currently we have 19, we have a
54:2654 minutes, 26 secondsbudget uh for 20 in there. Uh there's some unique things in relation to educational assistance is as needs
54:3554 minutes, 35 secondshappen uh especially on the sped side which we'll talk about in a minute we have to address those needs immediately
54:4354 minutes, 43 secondsum at times uh and so
54:5054 minutes, 50 secondsthe there's room in in some of those to move some dollars if we need to address some things on an immediate need
54:5854 minutes, 58 secondsstandpoint. point. Um, so from the personnel standpoint, you'll see that for 71100.
55:0655 minutes, 6 secondsUh, the other things that do happen in 7100 as I jump back there. So, I'm going to jump back and forth between that
55:1455 minutes, 14 secondspersonnel page. Uh, I am not going to try and go over every single line item unless you ask me to. Uh, I don't want
55:2355 minutes, 23 secondsto do that. I don't think you all want me to do that. Uh but I do want to highlight some of the things and personnel being our business is the
55:3255 minutes, 32 secondsbiggest expenditure uh kind of address some of those issues. Um so you'll see a
55:3955 minutes, 39 secondsfew other salary line items that are in there. The career ladder program that was a program started under Governor
55:5055 minutes, 50 secondsAlexander Alexander a long time ago. So that program as far as the number of teachers that are in that that qualify for that a
55:5955 minutes, 59 secondslong time ago is slowly reducing and that's why we see that number going down each year. Our salary supplements
56:0756 minutes, 7 secondsuh I may make an adjustment as to where this line item is actually at, but we won't deal with it tonight. If I do it,
56:1456 minutes, 14 secondsit'll be on Monday, but it's our supplements for our uh athletics, our uh
56:2156 minutes, 21 secondsextracurriculars, our clubs, our all of those things. So, uh those are the supplements that are paid out for that.
56:2956 minutes, 29 secondsThe DP there is our differentiated pay program. Each year in June, we have to submit a differentiated pay. We send it
56:3856 minutes, 38 secondsto you in the June meeting to review and approve. Uh that's where we pay our LOE
56:4456 minutes, 44 secondsbonuses. Uh some hard to if we have hard to fill positions and we want to pay bonuses for that as we hire people uh to
56:5456 minutes, 54 secondsattract them, that stuff is in there. We have um some additional uh funds for
57:0157 minutes, 1 secondsome of some of our bookkeepers that's in the uh differentiated pay also for
57:0857 minutes, 8 secondslike um um what's the um
57:2057 minutes, 20 secondswhat's the care one? There's one of the care groups that are one of the foster care
57:2757 minutes, 27 secondsfoster care leaison are in there and and that and that uh differentiated pay.
57:3357 minutes, 33 secondsSorry I went blank on that. Um sometimes you'll get there but that's what that
57:3957 minutes, 39 secondsdifferentiated pay is. So uh Marcy and I will be working on that and presenting that to you in June at the June meeting.
57:4857 minutes, 48 secondsIt may change some uh a good portion of that, the vast majority of that ends up being roughly over $200,000 that's paid
57:5757 minutes, 57 secondsto teachers on LOE bonuses each year. Um basically if you get a four or five um
58:0558 minutes, 5 secondsyou get a certain amount of a bonus. Uh you also see the increase in instructional uh or textbooks.
58:1458 minutes, 14 secondsum uh 325,000 not that that's the increase. It's $175,000 increase. But again, as we talked about
58:2258 minutes, 22 secondsearlier, uh roughly over the next two years, we will be spending roughly $650,000 on textbooks that we really have had not
58:3258 minutes, 32 secondsto worry about for a while. Uh and so those are coming back into the budgets.
58:3758 minutes, 37 secondsUh those are some of the significant line items that are in there. Uh, any questions on that one?
58:5358 minutes, 53 secondsOkay. In our SPED, um, no alternative school, excuse me, a little bit past
59:0059 minutesthat, but alternative school, uh, we have three teacher positions that are budgeted in there. Um,
59:0859 minutes, 8 secondscurrently we do have three teachers that operate in there. That's not a have to,
59:1459 minutes, 14 secondsbut we will continue to budget that uh at this point in time. And we also have a tutor, a foreign teacher that comes in
59:2259 minutes, 22 secondsand does some work with the teach with the students that are in there focusing on specific uh academic needs. And
59:3159 minutes, 31 secondsthere's about a $15,000 portion of that that is tied to that. We have one educational assistant in there
59:3959 minutes, 39 secondsalso that is budgeted. And um you will see some
59:4559 minutes, 45 secondsum medical insurance increases this year uh because what we may have budgeted
59:5259 minutes, 52 secondslast year was budgeted on 2024 participation.
59:5759 minutes, 57 secondsAnd so they may have started participating in 25 26
1:00:041 hour, 4 secondsand now we're having to up that budget for 26 or for the 27 year. Um
1:00:121 hour, 12 secondsan explanation on that. The um
1:00:191 hour, 19 secondsfinance office pays that bill monthly. They do not break it out by which line item the employees are in.
1:00:301 hour, 30 secondsThey pay it out of the 71100 um to 207 line item. I have to go back
1:00:391 hour, 39 secondsduring the year and make journal entries. And generally I do it at the end of the year on the 141 side. Make
1:00:461 hour, 46 secondsjournal entries to move it into the proper expenditure line item of the program that it's in. But that's why
1:00:541 hour, 54 secondsyou'll see those dollars right now. Uh when you look at year-to- date actual for state retirement, same way on state
1:01:011 hour, 1 minute, 1 secondretirement and medical insurance, those are showing zero for year-to- date actual because it's all in the 71100
1:01:101 hour, 1 minute, 10 secondsyear to date actual. I have to make those adjustments um as a year goes. Okay. questions on uh
1:01:211 hour, 1 minute, 21 secondsalternative school currently
1:01:281 hour, 1 minute, 28 secondsuh sped program. Um I'll flip over here real quick to our personnel and our personnel. These are
1:01:361 hour, 1 minute, 36 secondsFTE equivalents. They are not exact people. They are full-time equivalent.
1:01:431 hour, 1 minute, 43 secondsSo, uh, sometimes we have personnel that serve in both the, uh, regular
1:01:501 hour, 1 minute, 50 secondsinstruction classroom and the sped instruction classroom. So, they may have
1:01:551 hour, 1 minute, 55 secondsan FTE that is 0.5 for sped and 0.5 for
1:02:031 hour, 2 minutes, 3 secondsregular ed. And so, these are just the full-time equivalents. These are not the exact number of people that are in there. So you're seeing 33 fulltime equivalents currently budgeted in there.
1:02:131 hour, 2 minutes, 13 secondsUh also with the educational systems of 23 and you see two speech pathologists that
1:02:221 hour, 2 minutes, 22 secondsare budgeted in that line item also or in this uh program. Uh we have three
1:02:281 hour, 2 minutes, 28 secondsspeech pathologists. one is budgeted in our uh 142 uh federal programs dollars
1:02:371 hour, 2 minutes, 37 secondsIDA part B and you can see that down at the bottom um where we put those numbers in and I'll be double checking all those numbers to make sure that they're 100%
1:02:491 hour, 2 minutes, 49 secondsaccurate as far as we know but that's your personnel involved in that. We do have um
1:02:591 hour, 2 minutes, 59 secondsuh some high related uh contracted services in
1:03:061 hour, 3 minutes, 6 secondsthat. Um we do contract with
1:03:121 hour, 3 minutes, 12 secondsuh a few agencies and u people uh to provide some of those services,
1:03:201 hour, 3 minutes, 20 secondssome additional speech services. Um,
1:03:251 hour, 3 minutes, 25 secondsspeech pathologists are not the easiest to employ and so we've had a local one that we've contracted with over the
1:03:321 hour, 3 minutes, 32 secondsyears to do some part-time stuff. Uh, we also have some services that are involved in that. Those dollars, those
1:03:391 hour, 3 minutes, 39 secondsother contracted dollars with private agencies and the 399 lineup item, other contracted services
1:03:481 hour, 3 minutes, 48 secondshave increased substantially over the last three years. few years. We are looking to address that. But as in
1:03:571 hour, 3 minutes, 57 secondseverything else, as our cost and need increases,
1:04:011 hour, 4 minutes, 1 seconduh we have to reach out for those things to address them immediately. And the best way to currently do that. It
1:04:101 hour, 4 minutes, 10 secondsdoesn't mean in the long term that it is is with these other contracted services.
1:04:151 hour, 4 minutes, 15 secondsUm so that's where we've seen a significant increase. And of course, if we're
1:04:231 hour, 4 minutes, 23 secondscontracting with people and their expenses are going up, this is what they're going to ask us to pay down. We're agencies are going to go up. Also,
1:04:321 hour, 4 minutes, 32 secondswe do get a little bit of a benefit from that where we are not paying insurance and other things that are
1:04:401 hour, 4 minutes, 40 secondsrelated to that, enrolling, employing them based off not employing them or using them based off a need. But that
1:04:481 hour, 4 minutes, 48 secondshas been a substantial increase. uh over the last few years. Um so we're trying
1:04:551 hour, 4 minutes, 55 secondsto address that and see what we can do on it. Uh questions on sped
1:05:061 hour, 5 minutes, 6 secondsCTE.
1:05:101 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondsSo CTE personnel we have 14 full-time equivalent positions that are current in
1:05:171 hour, 5 minutes, 17 secondsthe budget is 14. That does not mean that we are going to be at 14. We're
1:05:241 hour, 5 minutes, 24 secondsexpecting to be at 13 in that. Um but again, the budget was initially set up
1:05:321 hour, 5 minutes, 32 secondsum um based off of current employment. Um
1:05:391 hour, 5 minutes, 39 secondsin that uh there's some unique things about CTE. Uh Jennifer will back me up
1:05:471 hour, 5 minutes, 47 secondsor correct me on some of these. Uh obviously TISA dollars there are different levels of TISA dollars tied to
1:05:541 hour, 5 minutes, 54 secondsCDTE participation. We have greatly um expanded
1:06:021 hour, 6 minutes, 2 secondsexpanded our CTE participation. Thank you. So you all can fill my words in anytime you want to because I'm losing
1:06:111 hour, 6 minutes, 11 secondsthe thought capacity at times. And so we are are receiving some significant fees of dollars with that. They do evaluate
1:06:181 hour, 6 minutes, 18 secondsthe programs and the scheduling. U an impact of five minutes on a schedule can change the amount of dollars that you
1:06:271 hour, 6 minutes, 27 secondsget. We also have the dual enrollment keycat aspect. Those funds are not budgeted for next year in here because
1:06:361 hour, 6 minutes, 36 secondswe do not know what they are. What but we could anticipate those. What we do with those funds is we put some of those
1:06:451 hour, 6 minutes, 45 secondsback to the uh CTE dual enrollment classroom. The teachers do get a stipen
1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondsor a payment per student from that from the TCAT that's in there. This year's
1:06:591 hour, 6 minutes, 59 secondsfunding as far as what we've received from TCAT was about $128,000.
1:07:071 hour, 7 minutes, 7 secondsUm we have we have dispersed the payments.
1:07:121 hour, 7 minutes, 12 secondsWe've got the spring payments to do and then she'll be dispersing the uh funds for uh the instructional supplies and
1:07:211 hour, 7 minutes, 21 secondsmaterials that go into the classrooms in relation to that. So u that is a significant thing. How long that will be
1:07:301 hour, 7 minutes, 30 secondsable to continue who knows? But we uh have a good relationship with the two TCATs at both ends of the county. Uh, of
1:07:381 hour, 7 minutes, 38 secondscourse they're at other they're not in our county, but they're next to those ends of the county. So interesting that
1:07:461 hour, 7 minutes, 46 secondswe do not have teat, but they do. So, um
1:07:521 hour, 7 minutes, 52 secondswe do put u like the other equipment line item in there that is not
1:08:001 hour, 8 minutesequipment that we've identified yet, but we put it in there to address needs that may arise. It's not a significant
1:08:071 hour, 8 minutes, 7 secondsamount. You will see that we ended up using some of those dollars this year, almost all of it to address a need. Um,
1:08:171 hour, 8 minutes, 17 secondsif I remember correctly, it was countertops. Yes. Um, in culinary.
1:08:231 hour, 8 minutes, 23 secondsYeah. Um, so that was part of the program those things that are being used there.
1:08:331 hour, 8 minutes, 33 secondsQuestions on that?
1:08:351 hour, 8 minutes, 35 secondsYou may have already said, but where did the deduction of 78,000 from the nonpersonnel come from in CT?
1:08:431 hour, 8 minutes, 43 secondsI guess it's here to list it down in these different things.
1:08:481 hour, 8 minutes, 48 secondsUh from 25 to wait where well at the top there you know it says
1:08:561 hour, 8 minutes, 56 secondsnonpersonnel uh decrease 78. Am I reading it right?
1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondsYeah. You are. So I am looking to see
1:09:101 hour, 9 minutes, 10 secondswhat exactly that would be. Um it's the total of the anything past 200.
1:09:181 hour, 9 minutes, 18 secondsYeah. But to address exactly what it is.
1:09:221 hour, 9 minutes, 22 secondsOh there you see the other charges of 58,144 right
1:09:291 hour, 9 minutes, 29 secondsthat. So that is those TCAT dollars for the first half of the year.
1:09:341 hour, 9 minutes, 34 secondsOkay. So what happened in December, I think it was actually January, we presented a budget amendment to you. And
1:09:411 hour, 9 minutes, 41 secondsso those 50 58,000 was in there. I'm not putting those TCAT dollars up front because we don't know what they're going to be.
1:09:511 hour, 9 minutes, 51 secondsWoodville, that's probably going to cover that void there, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's what that void is. Yes.
1:09:561 hour, 9 minutes, 56 secondsSomething this something that's successful, you know, as successful as it's been, you know,
1:10:011 hour, 10 minutes, 1 secondit's just they're not guaranteed. So there's no sense in budget.
1:10:051 hour, 10 minutes, 5 secondsYou said that while ago I should but sorry I wasn't recognizing where that 58 and 78 was coming from. Good question. Thank you.
1:10:191 hour, 10 minutes, 19 secondsUh attendance um so our attendance we have an attendance director. I will say this our
1:10:251 hour, 10 minutes, 25 secondsattendance director also serves u part of the responsibility is our safety
1:10:321 hour, 10 minutes, 32 secondsprogram. We budget a reasonable that this is not necessarily the exact salary because we
1:10:391 hour, 10 minutes, 39 secondshaven't calculated all exact salaries yet but we budget the full potential
1:10:461 hour, 10 minutes, 46 secondsbut we have been and the current thoughts are that we will still be able to do 30% of it out of federal programs.
1:10:541 hour, 10 minutes, 54 secondsSo that will be 30% less. Uh, and so when you go on the personnel sheet, and I'll just flip over there, and you see
1:11:031 hour, 11 minutes, 3 secondsthe attendance line item, you'll see FYI 26 is.7 for that supervisor position, but the
1:11:101 hour, 11 minutes, 10 secondsbudget is one for 27. Again, we expect to actually only pay 70% out of 141 for
1:11:181 hour, 11 minutes, 18 secondsthat as we're able to do the responsibilities associated with safety.
1:11:231 hour, 11 minutes, 23 secondson the other side of that uh in our federal programs. And then also the other uh in our attendance is where our
1:11:321 hour, 11 minutes, 32 secondsSIS, our student information system uh administrator is. And um so those are
1:11:411 hour, 11 minutes, 41 secondsthe two positions that are funded through there. Um there are some dollars that we have
1:11:491 hour, 11 minutes, 49 secondsmoved out and so I've highlighted that and this is why you're seeing some of those reductions. Uh other contracted
1:11:551 hour, 11 minutes, 55 secondsservices a portion of our Skyward uh has traditionally been paid out of that. We're mo moving those things uh
1:12:051 hour, 12 minutes, 5 secondsinto 72130 other student support because as you know we're buy we're purchasing synergy
1:12:151 hour, 12 minutes, 15 secondsor contracting with synergy uh going over the next five years as a presentation that was made to you all
1:12:221 hour, 12 minutes, 22 secondsand the approval to go with them. We had to make a change this year uh regardless. So uh as we were looking at
1:12:311 hour, 12 minutes, 31 secondsreally where those things should be budgeted uh I felt more that it should be budgeted in the other student support
1:12:381 hour, 12 minutes, 38 secondsthan the attendance portion because it's more than just attendance related. So uh that's why you're seeing an adjustment there.
1:12:501 hour, 12 minutes, 50 secondsQuestions.
1:12:541 hour, 12 minutes, 54 secondsHealth services is where we have our coordinated school health, our social workers, and our medical personnel, our
1:13:011 hour, 13 minutes, 1 secondnurses. Um, we also have uh some other contracted services related to that. We
1:13:091 hour, 13 minutes, 9 secondsdo have a revenue stream that comes through that by some of the medical services that we're able to provide and
1:13:161 hour, 13 minutes, 16 secondsum uh bill uh the state of Tennessee for. It's not a huge amount of revenue,
1:13:241 hour, 13 minutes, 24 secondsbut it is a revenue stream that can increase and build over the coming
1:13:301 hour, 13 minutes, 30 secondsyears. Um, so we have eight nurses, we have a supervisor, we have two social
1:13:371 hour, 13 minutes, 37 secondsworkers in this budget currently on the 141 side. We do have three social workers currently employed. One is is funded through a grant that will expire.
1:13:501 hour, 13 minutes, 50 secondsUh and so we're going to have to uh address that issue. Um and then we do
1:13:571 hour, 13 minutes, 57 secondsprovide some uh of those other contracted services dollars are tied to contracting with nurses to be
1:14:051 hour, 14 minutes, 5 secondssubstitutes if we have nurses that are out. Um and so instead of being as
1:14:111 hour, 14 minutes, 11 secondsemployees, we contract with questions in relation to that.
1:14:211 hour, 14 minutes, 21 secondsUh other student support is our um generally the personnel that are in
1:14:261 hour, 14 minutes, 26 secondsthere uh is guidance personnel and also two people that sit in here. Um the same
1:14:351 hour, 14 minutes, 35 secondsand I will budget in those in the 189 line item that is there. Um and we are
1:14:431 hour, 14 minutes, 43 secondsother student support line items or personnel.
1:14:471 hour, 14 minutes, 47 secondsum the don't fall necessarily in just well it's just where we have traditionally
1:14:541 hour, 14 minutes, 54 secondsbudgeted those two positions we are um uh administrators um but that's the line
1:15:021 hour, 15 minutes, 2 secondsitem we traditionally budget that in so uh you also see evaluating and testing you see a significant increase in that
1:15:111 hour, 15 minutes, 11 secondswhat we did is we moved uh some of our testing software um that we had in other contracted
1:15:211 hour, 15 minutes, 21 secondsservices in regular instruction 7100.
1:15:261 hour, 15 minutes, 26 secondsIt's a since it's in evaluation and testing, it really works better down in that other contracted services line item. So, uh that's that 322 line item.
1:15:371 hour, 15 minutes, 37 secondsYou have Ames Webs, Master Connect that are in there. And again, we have moved those from uh what was not instruction
1:15:471 hour, 15 minutes, 47 secondsoriented uh to a more proper line item to focus on
1:15:561 hour, 15 minutes, 56 seconds70 uh 221 is regular instruction program. This is support services. Um this would be um
1:16:071 hour, 16 minutes, 7 secondswhere our deputy director, our librarians,
1:16:111 hour, 16 minutes, 11 secondsuh our school secretaries and bookkeepers are in there. Um some of our
1:16:191 hour, 16 minutes, 19 secondscentral uh one of our central office positions is in there. Um this is things that support regular instruction.
1:16:281 hour, 16 minutes, 28 secondsuh it does not have to be directly tied to the instructional process but it's
1:16:351 hour, 16 minutes, 35 secondsthe support uh aspect relation to it. Uh we also have um
1:16:431 hour, 16 minutes, 43 secondsuh library books and media. Um we have some other contracted services in there.
1:16:501 hour, 16 minutes, 50 secondsUm that's the remaining SIS cost. Um there's a uh in the 399
1:16:591 hour, 16 minutes, 59 secondsthere's a uh interpreter um contract that we have that we use when we need language interpretation if
1:17:091 hour, 17 minutes, 9 secondswe do not have someone available and we're dealing with the public or a parent or a guardian in relation to
1:17:171 hour, 17 minutes, 17 secondsthat. So that's where those numbers are at.
1:17:231 hour, 17 minutes, 23 secondsSpecial education program, that's our support aspect on there. So your supervisors in there, your psychologists
1:17:311 hour, 17 minutes, 31 secondswho are funded uh through uh 141, two are funded through uh 14291.
1:17:391 hour, 17 minutes, 39 secondsAnd we also have two OT's that we fund uh or that we employ uh occupational therapists.
1:17:481 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondsUh so those are the personnel that are in there. Um
1:17:561 hour, 17 minutes, 56 secondswe have um moved some of the other contracted dollars that were originally in 71200
1:18:041 hour, 18 minutes, 4 secondsin previous years. Last year we had to move those other contracted dollars to this 722.
1:18:111 hour, 18 minutes, 11 secondsSo again any services that is not instructional related uh in relation to spid that with
1:18:201 hour, 18 minutes, 20 secondsthe sped that we may be contracting with um we would move those and pay those out of this other contract on it.
1:18:281 hour, 18 minutes, 28 secondsI have a question about this. So how are we as a school system pain speech
1:18:351 hour, 18 minutes, 35 secondstherapist occupational therapist psychologist relation to other I know we we we have some data on other teachers
1:18:431 hour, 18 minutes, 43 secondsin other districts correct so that's a good question and that's something we we're going to address so it's good time to do it um
1:18:561 hour, 18 minutes, 56 secondstraditionally or if you compare most of our salary line items. U basically all of our salary line items we are behind.
1:19:071 hour, 19 minutes, 7 secondsUm the counties that we touch uh other than uh Ferry County.
1:19:161 hour, 19 minutes, 16 secondsUm several years ago u we were dealing with that along with our psych
1:19:231 hour, 19 minutes, 23 secondspsychological personnel and our speech therapist personnel. Uh, and so there were adjustments that were made to pay
1:19:321 hour, 19 minutes, 32 secondsscales in relation to that to make those more competitive. Um, there's an abundance of teachers out there. There's
1:19:411 hour, 19 minutes, 41 secondsnot necessarily an abundance of SLPs uh out there. Uh, not necessarily abundance of psychologists out there.
1:19:501 hour, 19 minutes, 50 secondsThat's necessarily if they're not from here that's going to come here. And it's competitive. We are now on the psych
1:19:581 hour, 19 minutes, 58 secondsside and on the SLP side. We are very close and in some cases we are paying
1:20:061 hour, 20 minutes, 6 secondsmore than what the counties that touch us pay. not significantly but we are paying more uh in a few of
1:20:151 hour, 20 minutes, 15 secondsthose if you compare what this person would make if they were in Murray or if they were in
1:20:221 hour, 20 minutes, 22 secondsuh and that's and so we have a separate pay scale for those positions that are based off of the teacher salaries but
1:20:321 hour, 20 minutes, 32 secondshave some additional uh pay in it and that was to make them competitive without losing
1:20:401 hour, 20 minutes, 40 secondsAnd uh because if you have to provide those services,
1:20:451 hour, 20 minutes, 45 secondsif you don't have the person, you're going to have to go contract more. And uh so yes, we're very competitive in those aspects. Now,
1:21:001 hour, 21 minutesany other questions on that?
1:21:021 hour, 21 minutes, 2 secondsUh career tech is just our support part for our career tech. Um
1:21:101 hour, 21 minutes, 10 secondsthere is a pos position in there that's um um in the 723189
1:21:181 hour, 21 minutes, 18 secondsthat is a uh position of administrative assistant uh in that program that has been funded by ISM.
1:21:281 hour, 21 minutes, 28 secondsUm ISM will be going away. uh we have looked at what we can do about the need
1:21:351 hour, 21 minutes, 35 secondsfor that position is absolutely there uh it has been 141 it's just been reimbursed by ISM so we are looking at
1:21:451 hour, 21 minutes, 45 secondsthe use of some of the TCAP dollars uh to help fund that position
1:21:531 hour, 21 minutes, 53 secondsum based off of the need that is in that questions in relation to that
1:22:011 hour, 22 minutes, 1 secondThere would be two positions total that that's in this uh section.
1:22:131 hour, 22 minutes, 13 secondsTechnology is our uh obviously our technology infrastructure. Uh that's Brad and his department. Several things
1:22:221 hour, 22 minutes, 22 secondsin there. Some of this you have already approved. You approved an internet connectivity model which is actually saving us some money. uh it's one or
1:22:311 hour, 22 minutes, 31 secondscontract is one of the few savings that we've uh have had uh and uh we're glad
1:22:391 hour, 22 minutes, 39 secondsabout that. We're in the second year of a plan that was presented to you all and that you approved last year as far as
1:22:491 hour, 22 minutes, 49 secondsupdating our infrastructure and how it communicates to everything, the lines of
1:22:551 hour, 22 minutes, 55 secondscommunication. And so in those other contracted services dollars, a portion of that is that continuation.
1:23:041 hour, 23 minutes, 4 secondsLast year or this current year, we've walked on doing the upgrades and then
1:23:101 hour, 23 minutes, 10 secondsbut all along we've presented it to you as a two-year process. Uh and so that will continue throughout next year to
1:23:181 hour, 23 minutes, 18 secondsget that up. And what it does is the best way Brad probably has presented this to you
1:23:261 hour, 23 minutes, 26 secondsat some point in time, but it's traffic flow. And so when you're building as you
1:23:331 hour, 23 minutes, 33 secondsneed to meet needs, you create traffic jams because you're meeting the need right now. But as we get more people on
1:23:401 hour, 23 minutes, 40 secondsand they're correcting these things, uh it's given more direct routes for all the communication which uh allows us not
1:23:501 hour, 23 minutes, 50 secondsto have as many issues uh as while we need those. Uh we have left uh the -ate
1:23:581 hour, 23 minutes, 58 secondsuh equipment down there. That is our portion of the -ate um equipment that needs to be worth the purchase. It's 15%
1:24:081 hour, 24 minutes, 8 secondsor 20%. 20%
1:24:091 hour, 24 minutes, 9 seconds20% of the actual purchase. So, we have to pay 20,000 of it. They pay 80,000.
1:24:161 hour, 24 minutes, 16 secondsAnd that's something you approved a couple weeks ago as he presented.
1:24:251 hour, 24 minutes, 25 secondsUh this is in relation to 72290 is in relation to our oped program. Those are
1:24:321 hour, 24 minutes, 32 secondsestimate of expenditures that we will seek reimbursement for next year. Their budget is a little high. The budget at
1:24:391 hour, 24 minutes, 39 secondsabout 70,000, but um um we get reimbursement on that. So they're
1:24:481 hour, 24 minutes, 48 secondsall set by that reimbursement number in the revenue site
1:24:551 hour, 24 minutes, 55 secondsboard. That's you. Um so some of the things that are in there is uh of course
1:25:011 hour, 25 minutes, 1 secondthe compensation you get uh training that you may need to go to uh we do offer medical benefits
1:25:111 hour, 25 minutes, 11 secondsuh and uh our audit services are in there. Uh dues and memberships.
1:25:171 hour, 25 minutes, 17 secondsuh we kind of put those at uh a little bit of room in there uh for if there's
1:25:241 hour, 25 minutes, 24 secondsthings that come come on. A few years back we had an evaluation done of all of our facilities and things and we had
1:25:341 hour, 25 minutes, 34 secondsgone into a consortium uh to get that done. That was a dues and memberships that we had to pay. um
1:25:421 hour, 25 minutes, 42 secondsour liability insurance, our uh workers compensation insurance,
1:25:501 hour, 25 minutes, 50 secondsuh those things are paid out a year. We do expect increases in those. Uh even though the budgeted number on workers
1:25:571 hour, 25 minutes, 57 secondscomp it, I went down. Uh our actual expenditure on that side is probably going to go up. Uh, as far as what we
1:26:061 hour, 26 minutes, 6 secondspay for that compensation insurance, we do pay the trustee commission. That's always been there. And so that's based
1:26:131 hour, 26 minutes, 13 secondsoff of trends. Uh, any questions in relation to that?
1:26:231 hour, 26 minutes, 23 secondsSo, director of schools, what you have in the director of schools is obviously the director salary, the secretaries,
1:26:281 hour, 26 minutes, 28 secondsthere are two administrative assistants that are paid out of this line item. uh that is our human resource and uh uh
1:26:371 hour, 26 minutes, 37 secondsMiss Debbie and they uh work with and directly with the director uh in relation to those things. And so uh
1:26:451 hour, 26 minutes, 45 secondsbasically this is all tied to the director's office and hopefully I've got the right contract dollars in there.
1:27:001 hour, 27 minutesoffice principal. These are um basically dollars that are related to the administration of the school. So you
1:27:091 hour, 27 minutes, 9 secondshave the principles, the assistant principles. Uh the 189 other salaries are two full-time athletic directors
1:27:181 hour, 27 minutes, 18 secondsthat we have at the high schools. We pay them. they they are under the principles and uh they are not instructional. They
1:27:261 hour, 27 minutes, 26 secondsare not necessarily uh other student support. Uh we pay out of this line item under the principal.
1:27:341 hour, 27 minutes, 34 secondsYou'll also see that there's some other contracted services for each school.
1:27:381 hour, 27 minutes, 38 secondsTraditionally we have budgeted dollars and in the past and still in some of the cases we are paying for copers
1:27:461 hour, 27 minutes, 46 secondsuh that they use. Uh what we have done in the past cuz some of the system some of the schools do not use the contract
1:27:551 hour, 27 minutes, 55 secondsthat we use with our day young. They have had their own. We will disperse generally over the last five years.
1:28:031 hour, 28 minutes, 3 secondsWe've gone back and dispersed these unused dollars or a portion of these unused dollars back to the schools at
1:28:101 hour, 28 minutes, 10 secondsthe end of the year to help them cover some of their uh annual expenses.
1:28:161 hour, 28 minutes, 16 secondsUh we have lowered that amount over the last few years as our budget has gotten a little bit tighter or our funds have
1:28:241 hour, 28 minutes, 24 secondsgotten a little bit tighter. Uh we also have other contracted services that general line item up there. One of the
1:28:311 hour, 28 minutes, 31 secondsthings that we pay out of there is for uh sports therapy, a trainer to be uh at
1:28:401 hour, 28 minutes, 40 secondsour ball games at both ends of the county. doesn't mean that they're at all of them, but we try and have them at the major ones. And that's a contracted
1:28:491 hour, 28 minutes, 49 secondsservice. And so we reimburse them uh uh at the
1:28:561 hour, 28 minutes, 56 secondsfiscal services is what we pay to the county for the stuff that they
1:29:061 hour, 29 minutes, 6 secondswe're under the active 81. I won't go into the detail of active 81 but centralized finance and so basically
1:29:141 hour, 29 minutes, 14 secondsthey do our purchasing they do our purchasing
1:29:231 hour, 29 minutes, 23 secondswrecks purchase orders we sell purchase but u but they also do all of our check
1:29:311 hour, 29 minutes, 31 secondspaying and all of that. So this is the fee uh to basically provide those services for us.
1:29:431 hour, 29 minutes, 43 secondsOperation of plant is our u operation of plants. There's no personnel in there.
1:29:491 hour, 29 minutes, 49 secondsThat's where our communication infrastructure or or utilities come out of. Other contracted services would be
1:29:571 hour, 29 minutes, 57 secondsum uh our janitorial service. Uh we also have custodial supplies. Uh one area
1:30:061 hour, 30 minutes, 6 secondsthat I'm going to go back and revisit is in our electricity. Our electricity uh when I did the first year in estimate it
1:30:141 hour, 30 minutes, 14 secondswas estimating a little high and trends are uh for it to be higher next year. Uh so I put a 1.1 in there for electricity.
1:30:271 hour, 30 minutes, 27 secondsThat's aboutund um uh $101,000
1:30:361 hour, 30 minutes, 36 secondsmore than previously. Um $110,000 more, excuse me. Orund Yeah.
1:30:441 hour, 30 minutes, 44 secondsWhatever. I'm struggling to do the math in my head. Uh anyhow, there's an increase there. $110,000. You can even see that. It's right there in front of
1:30:521 hour, 30 minutes, 52 secondsme. Uh water and sewer uh last year was significantly high. this year is not trending that high. Uh that may be we
1:31:001 hour, 31 minutesdid have some leaks last year and uh generally we get reimbursed for those leaks but if you have several of them we
1:31:081 hour, 31 minutes, 8 secondsdon't always get reimbured for all of them. Um now we could see some where that goes up over the next few months
1:31:171 hour, 31 minutes, 17 secondsfor the watering fields if we stay dry but hopefully it's not going to be significant. building and contents
1:31:241 hour, 31 minutes, 24 secondsinsurance is going to go up. Uh we're anticipating. So that's where you're seeing uh some of the increases in that
1:31:361 hour, 31 minutes, 36 secondsum maintenance of plant that we do have our personnel in there. We have a shared
1:31:431 hour, 31 minutes, 43 secondsuh supervisor position based off of ends of the county. Bill is our supervisor.
1:31:491 hour, 31 minutes, 49 secondsUh but some of those uh a portion of that responsibility for the other end of the county falls under Toby. Um uh we
1:31:581 hour, 31 minutes, 58 secondsalso have our other uh maintenance workers that are in there. If you go to the personnel page, uh you can see those
1:32:061 hour, 32 minutes, 6 secondsnumbers that are associated with that line item. Um and those are the FTEEs that are associated in there.
1:32:181 hour, 32 minutes, 18 secondsMake sure I got them in there right. Uh secretarial you'll see a 0.5 and a secretarial she it's actually
1:32:261 hour, 32 minutes, 26 secondsadministrative assistant. She is both in half in the transportation and half in
1:32:331 hour, 32 minutes, 33 secondsthe uh maintenance portion. U and then you have 4.5 maintenance personnel. One
1:32:411 hour, 32 minutes, 41 secondsof those personnel is in relation to our package plant. Um that is the sewer
1:32:481 hour, 32 minutes, 48 secondssystem that is at the east schools that is ours.
1:32:561 hour, 32 minutes, 56 secondsSo he does reporting and testing on that and so he's a part
1:33:041 hour, 33 minutes, 4 secondsuh going back to those expenditures just um basically uh you'll see the budgets a
1:33:131 hour, 33 minutes, 13 secondslittle high this year. Here you'll see 335,000 for FY 2026.
1:33:191 hour, 33 minutes, 19 secondsUh that was not what we originally started out with. We had some stuff at the beginning of the year that we had to
1:33:261 hour, 33 minutes, 26 secondsmove some dollars in to get that addressed uh at Hitman County High School. Uh our regular expenditures
1:33:351 hour, 33 minutes, 35 secondsthough uh have that is not associated with that is trending below that $250,000
1:33:431 hour, 33 minutes, 43 secondsamount along with the other maintenance and repair services for equipment um
1:33:491 hour, 33 minutes, 49 seconds336. Uh also screaming below that $275 amount that we currently have budgeted.
1:33:551 hour, 33 minutes, 55 secondsUh so feel safe in keeping those right now. That doesn't mean that we won't need to do an adjustment.
1:34:021 hour, 34 minutes, 2 secondsuh other contracted services um trending low on that. Um
1:34:141 hour, 34 minutes, 14 secondsso um trying to remember exactly what's paid out that line item a blank.
1:34:221 hour, 34 minutes, 22 secondsUh oh that's matrix a portion of that is matrix I believe and we'll talk about matrix a little bit
1:34:301 hour, 34 minutes, 30 secondsa little bit later. Um but um some of the changes you may see in the budget that we may request uh not all of that
1:34:391 hour, 34 minutes, 39 secondsis matrix by the way uh um
1:34:471 hour, 34 minutes, 47 secondsquestions in relation to that you do have uh cameras that's the 50,000 you
1:34:531 hour, 34 minutes, 53 secondssee in 70 in line item 7262071 u as you know we've spent a lot of money
1:35:011 hour, 35 minutes, 1 secondon cameras. Uh again, uh that's a safety security issue. In the past, we had the
1:35:091 hour, 35 minutes, 9 secondsluxury of using tester funds to get a lot of that up and going. We How many
1:35:161 hour, 35 minutes, 16 secondscameras do we have? Real quick estimate in the schools. We got nearly 100 each hospital. Wow.
1:35:241 hour, 35 minutes, 24 secondsAnd then several at each of the other ones. Uh when you do that, again, we did not have to use $141 to get them going,
1:35:331 hour, 35 minutes, 33 secondsbut we have to use $141 to maintain them. Basically, they've got a six-year license life.
1:35:421 hour, 35 minutes, 42 secondsAnd so, as those license come up, the camera may still be able to be used, but the license, the software is sometimes
1:35:511 hour, 35 minutes, 51 secondsas expensive as the camera. And so, we will have to maintain those. And uh so
1:35:581 hour, 35 minutes, 58 secondsthat will be now what we hope is that we'll have a safety grant that we can get reimbursement on from those but
1:36:071 hour, 36 minutes, 7 secondsthose are going to be yearly expenses and there won't always be a safety grant that we can apply to that. Uh so we'll
1:36:151 hour, 36 minutes, 15 secondshave that line item in there. Uh the maintenance equipment line item down there is for HVAC replacement. If we
1:36:231 hour, 36 minutes, 23 secondshave some emergency needs to replace an HVAC item. Uh now if we had a big huge unit go out, we would have to come back
1:36:321 hour, 36 minutes, 32 secondsto you all. But this would be just to address small ones going out and being able to take care of those uh in that situation.
1:36:471 hour, 36 minutes, 47 secondstransportation. We can talk about the buses. Um, uh, in relation to our transportation,
1:36:541 hour, 36 minutes, 54 secondsStephen and I looked at this last week and we basically have 43 routes, uh, 38
1:37:021 hour, 37 minutes, 2 secondsfull-time drivers, six subd drivers, and one sped attendant. We have five
1:37:091 hour, 37 minutes, 9 secondsum sped route attendants uh also that we pay out of line item 72710189.
1:37:181 hour, 37 minutes, 18 secondsUh those are not necessarily full-time dollars, but they're additional dollars they'll ride on those buses in the
1:37:261 hour, 37 minutes, 26 secondsmornings and afternoons to be an extra hand on some of those buses. Um just a
1:37:331 hour, 37 minutes, 33 secondsbreakout of the number of buses down in 412 is our uh diesel fuel. We have 40
1:37:411 hour, 37 minutes, 41 secondsdiesel buses, 28 on a daily route. Um 37 of those are regular buses. Three of those are sped buses that run on diesel.
1:37:531 hour, 37 minutes, 53 secondsWe have one gas fed bus and we How many do we have using propane? supposed to
1:38:001 hour, 38 minuteshave one written there, but that's wrong. 13.
1:38:031 hour, 38 minutes, 3 seconds13. Thank you. So, I typed it in wrong or didn't correct it when I typed it.
1:38:071 hour, 38 minutes, 7 secondsSo, you can write 13 down there where it says one using propane is 13. Uh, as you
1:38:141 hour, 38 minutes, 14 secondsknow, we're going to u you've authorized the purchase of two. We have one budgeted in FY27.
1:38:231 hour, 38 minutes, 23 secondsUm, you've given us the authority to do it in FY261.
1:38:271 hour, 38 minutes, 27 secondsWe have not done that yet. We're going to see if we can move the dollars to be able to do that. If not, we will bump
1:38:351 hour, 38 minutes, 35 secondsthis up to two and purchase those at the very start of next year. Um, so we're
1:38:421 hour, 38 minutes, 42 secondslooking at the ability to whether we can do that budget amendment uh to get one.
1:38:471 hour, 38 minutes, 47 secondsBut, uh, these are being reimbursed at half. So, did we find out if it's when
1:38:531 hour, 38 minutes, 53 secondsthey're put into service or when we pay?
1:38:591 hour, 38 minutes, 59 secondsWe think the reimbursement comes when we put into service.
1:39:031 hour, 39 minutes, 3 secondsI get a bill and we send it and then that reimburse.
1:39:071 hour, 39 minutes, 7 secondsSo that could, you know, that that could fall a couple months behind as far as
1:39:141 hour, 39 minutes, 14 secondsreimbursement. Any questions on those in relation to um transportation?
1:39:261 hour, 39 minutes, 26 secondsPropane is not as volatile. Uh diesel and gas are uh the gas line item in
1:39:341 hour, 39 minutes, 34 secondsthere is not just for our buses. We have how many white fleet? 26.
1:39:411 hour, 39 minutes, 41 seconds26. And so currently we will supply gas uh for those uh white fleets uh those
1:39:501 hour, 39 minutes, 50 secondsgas uh vehicles that we have in the system.
1:40:011 hour, 40 minutes, 1 secondCentral and other um that is just some um
1:40:101 hour, 40 minutes, 10 secondsdollars associated with uh unemployment compensation.
1:40:161 hour, 40 minutes, 16 secondsWe pulled that out. I may have to revisit that one. Uh I'll take a look at it. uh and that may be back in there on
1:40:241 hour, 40 minutes, 24 secondsMonday night. The other fringe benefits is in relation uh to
1:40:311 hour, 40 minutes, 31 secondsum it it relates to a bus program that we have to where if they go a month the
1:40:411 hour, 40 minutes, 41 secondswhole month without having to have a subd driver, we provide them four extra dollars a day. It's not significant, but
1:40:491 hour, 40 minutes, 49 secondsit does make a difference for some and then some don't.
1:40:521 hour, 40 minutes, 52 secondsuh for lack of a better term. So that's where those other French benefit dollars are.
1:40:591 hour, 40 minutes, 59 secondsUm food service uh from 141 we have to pay
1:41:071 hour, 41 minutes, 7 secondsone half of the salary of the uh uh food service supervisor and we have items there. Community services, that's our
1:41:161 hour, 41 minutes, 16 secondsfamily resource centers. Uh and we have two employees. We used to have a supervisor full-time halftime supervisor
1:41:251 hour, 41 minutes, 25 secondspaid out of that. You do have someone that is being paid a stipen to to oversee
1:41:321 hour, 41 minutes, 32 secondsuh that program and the expenditures and everything associated with that, but that has been reduced significantly.
1:41:391 hour, 41 minutes, 39 secondsEarly childhood is our voluntary prek.
1:41:421 hour, 41 minutes, 42 secondsAnd as I told you, the this will probably end up changing a little bit,
1:41:461 hour, 41 minutes, 46 secondsbut these are the estimated expenditure dollars with those. as we create that budget and it's available in the new
1:41:531 hour, 41 minutes, 53 secondsplan, uh, we may have to make some adjustments to these line items. What was community services?
1:42:021 hour, 42 minutes, 2 secondsThat's our family resources. Okay.
1:42:041 hour, 42 minutes, 4 secondsYes. So, we have one at each end of the county. They do the operation Christmas.
1:42:091 hour, 42 minutes, 9 secondsThey do the food Friday,
1:42:121 hour, 42 minutes, 12 secondsFriday friends, uh, several other things. It's a all the food trucks that take care of
1:42:211 hour, 42 minutes, 21 secondsclothing and stuff and they do have to report to the state the things that they do every year. It is supposedly funded through the state
1:42:291 hour, 42 minutes, 29 secondsthrough TISA dollars. Now, it used to be a separate grant, but it is supposed to
1:42:351 hour, 42 minutes, 35 secondsbe in TIA dollars as far as that student uh dollar that is in there.
1:42:501 hour, 42 minutes, 50 secondsquestions. Reset this one.
1:43:041 hour, 43 minutes, 4 secondsOkay, let's go over to the revenue side.
1:43:061 hour, 43 minutes, 6 secondsAnd so what I put in on the revenue side currently is basically now I did make some adjustments that we saw uh an uh
1:43:161 hour, 43 minutes, 16 secondstrend down but it's basically the revenues as they have been for 2026 that
1:43:251 hour, 43 minutes, 25 secondsas they are budgeted. The two biggest uh discussions we'll probably have is going to be property tax dollars and local
1:43:341 hour, 43 minutes, 34 secondsoption sales tax. Um, so you will see the March TISA dollars uh in here. Um,
1:43:441 hour, 43 minutes, 44 secondswell, let's just go down through a little bit of them. And anything that's highlighted yellow is your local
1:43:531 hour, 43 minutes, 53 secondsuh dollars. That's how they determine maintenance of effort. That is the local portion. And that has to meet
1:44:021 hour, 44 minutes, 2 secondsmaintenance of effort in relation to uh prior year uh budgeting. Um I'll need to
1:44:101 hour, 44 minutes, 10 secondsdouble check to make sure that does. The one in here, if you look on the page where I'm at, you can see it on the
1:44:161 hour, 44 minutes, 16 secondsscreen. Uh 46851 state revenue sharing TVA.
1:44:231 hour, 44 minutes, 23 secondsThat comes from the TVA. It is not I'm not sure how that is set. We base it on
1:44:301 hour, 44 minutes, 30 secondstrends and the trend traditionally is $24,000.
1:44:351 hour, 44 minutes, 35 secondsIt will fluctuate. Um obviously it has to do with the revenue sharing the TVA has, but those are dollars that come
1:44:431 hour, 44 minutes, 43 secondsback to the local communities and the local school systems uh in in order to be part of that. So everything
1:44:501 hour, 44 minutes, 50 secondshighlighted in yellow is considered part of that the local dollars that are funded and that's where federal maintenance of effort is calculated.
1:45:091 hour, 45 minutes, 9 secondsWhat I did not include in here is insurance recovery uh grants that uh like ISL was not in
1:45:191 hour, 45 minutes, 19 secondsthere. Um um there is uh let me find that line item.
1:45:291 hour, 45 minutes, 29 secondsThe other state education fund line item 46590.
1:45:341 hour, 45 minutes, 34 secondsThat is the 240 that is in there is a salary equity dollars that came from the
1:45:421 hour, 45 minutes, 42 secondssmall school lawsuit uh in the BEP/TSA uh aspect in that. So those funds still
1:45:511 hour, 45 minutes, 51 secondscome to us salary equity dollars. Uh we do get reimbursed through the ROC program. That's an estimate of
1:46:001 hour, 46 minutesreimbursement for next year. Um don't know exactly what that reimbursement will be. We do get some funding for
1:46:091 hour, 46 minutes, 9 secondsdrivers ed. It's a small portion. Uh we uh something that is not budgeted in
1:46:181 hour, 46 minutes, 18 secondshere is we do get TISA dollars that are based off of outcomes. We make
1:46:251 hour, 46 minutes, 25 secondsadjustments. Those come in December and so we do a budget amendment for those in December. Uh but that's why you'll see
1:46:331 hour, 46 minutes, 33 secondsan amended estimate sometimes higher than what the uh um original estimate
1:46:401 hour, 46 minutes, 40 secondswas. And that's where we got additional funds in. Sorry, my voice is starting to go.
1:46:481 hour, 46 minutes, 48 secondsWe do receive some $141 for school food service uh to offset those expenditures
1:46:551 hour, 46 minutes, 55 secondsrelated to our portion of the uh uh
1:47:071 hour, 47 minutes, 7 secondsdid you cover other vocational 467.
1:47:141 hour, 47 minutes, 14 secondsSo in this in this budget so the big amount that is there and last year at the start because we did budget a
1:47:231 hour, 47 minutes, 23 secondsportion of ISM because we were still running some projects right then those are ISM related dollars innovative
1:47:311 hour, 47 minutes, 31 secondsschool model dollars and so we expect at this point in time to have expensed
1:47:381 hour, 47 minutes, 38 secondsall those at this year end so there will not be any dollars budgeted
1:47:451 hour, 47 minutes, 45 secondsin relation to that for us to spend next year. Now that's assuming that everything gets
1:47:521 hour, 47 minutes, 52 secondsdone but uh so we did not budget there's not there so that's why you're seeing a
1:47:591 hour, 47 minutes, 59 secondssignificant that is a pass through meaning the revenues are equal to the expender
1:48:071 hour, 48 minutes, 7 secondsso it's a net zero on the budget. It didn't cost us anything.
1:48:151 hour, 48 minutes, 15 secondsIt doesn't to expend the dollars because they reimbursed us for it. But we did have to budget it so we could do the
1:48:221 hour, 48 minutes, 22 secondsexpenditure. But we will not see that this year.
1:48:291 hour, 48 minutes, 29 secondsSo what you're saying is because we're not going to have revenue, we won't have the expenditures either.
1:48:341 hour, 48 minutes, 34 secondsNo. Because we're not going to have the expenditures, we won't have the revenue in the program. we will have spent all of those dollars. Now, there's a
1:48:421 hour, 48 minutes, 42 secondspossibility that we may need to go in to the next year for a few months on getting this building done. So, we could
1:48:501 hour, 48 minutes, 50 secondscome back and do a budget amendment in July for what has not been expensed. Uh we're not sure that that's going to
1:48:571 hour, 48 minutes, 57 secondshappen yet. So, there's no sense in putting that in there in the budget because we didn't estimate that yet anyhow.
1:49:051 hour, 49 minutes, 5 secondsSo, but yeah, it's a it's a net zero.
1:49:091 hour, 49 minutes, 9 secondsUm, so when I did all the the comparisons from year to year, I did not as far as the budget expenditure, ISM is
1:49:181 hour, 49 minutes, 18 secondsnot in there because it's it's not an operating expenditure to look at and compare. It
1:49:261 hour, 49 minutes, 26 secondswould just throw our numbers off as we're looking at budgets.
1:49:321 hour, 49 minutes, 32 secondsBut is that something we could get again? Only if the state does a program again.
1:49:381 hour, 49 minutes, 38 secondsThis was this was Governor Lee's initiative.
1:49:431 hour, 49 minutes, 43 secondsUh basically it was um what was the amounts?
1:49:521 hour, 49 minutes, 52 secondsMillion for each million for each high school and 500,000 for each middle school.
1:49:571 hour, 49 minutes, 57 secondsSo at least $3 million to build up and you had a fouryear you had
1:50:061 hour, 50 minutes, 6 secondsfour-year implementation. We actually did not start implementing until uh the beginning of the second year. You
1:50:161 hour, 50 minutes, 16 secondsdo have one extra year if needed to expense the stuff out. But the funds uh
1:50:241 hour, 50 minutes, 24 secondsno it's not something we can apply for right now. uh it was coming when it came
1:50:311 hour, 50 minutes, 31 secondsit was coming to us because we had middle schools and high schools and it was that initiative. Uh now that being
1:50:381 hour, 50 minutes, 38 secondssaid going in the future to continue some of those things that we did through ISM
1:50:471 hour, 50 minutes, 47 secondsand some significant purchases because they're software related, they're hardware related.
1:50:541 hour, 50 minutes, 54 secondsum we're going to have to upgrade and take care of that. So,
1:51:021 hour, 51 minutes, 2 secondsnot going to hit those right now. Some of those licenses will be running out.
1:51:071 hour, 51 minutes, 7 secondsUh but they run out this year and we're able to use the budgeted ISL dollars to
1:51:141 hour, 51 minutes, 14 secondsbuy those license for however many years they're good for going out. But eventually that will come back to a 141.
1:51:241 hour, 51 minutes, 24 secondsNot the $3 million, but a significant amount of money to keep some of those things that we have purchased through
1:51:331 hour, 51 minutes, 33 secondsISL and upgrades through ISL to keep those operating and going.
1:51:391 hour, 51 minutes, 39 secondsSo there is no free dollars uh because eventually you have to maintain those on the sales tax.
1:51:521 hour, 51 minutes, 52 secondsMhm. It appears to be staying the same. What's the assumption there?
1:51:571 hour, 51 minutes, 57 secondsSo local option sales tax is part of the uh local
1:52:051 hour, 52 minutes, 5 secondsportion of their funding. local option sales tax is underbudgeted.
1:52:121 hour, 52 minutes, 12 secondsOkay, the ideal of this uh as far as underbudgeted, not necessarily
1:52:191 hour, 52 minutes, 19 secondsunderbudgeted, but as far as a revenue source, what it is budgeted at does not
1:52:271 hour, 52 minutes, 27 secondsimpact the amount of money you're going to receive on.
1:52:321 hour, 52 minutes, 32 secondsUm there's been discussions at the state. I don't think they're currently still
1:52:391 hour, 52 minutes, 39 secondsgoing on is to take that out of the local portion because from a budget standpoint,
1:52:481 hour, 52 minutes, 48 secondsthe budget number has no control over what the revenues are that you're going to receive. So if you put that at the
1:52:581 hour, 52 minutes, 58 secondsanticipated amount, what you end up doing, and perfectly fine, we can do that. you end up increasing the
1:53:061 hour, 53 minutes, 6 secondsmaintenance of effort dollars for the county each year. Um,
1:53:121 hour, 53 minutes, 12 secondswhat's the significant of that? The significant of that is
1:53:201 hour, 53 minutes, 20 secondsif you have a year where you're not riding high on it, which when we have an economic downturn, it will go low.
1:53:291 hour, 53 minutes, 29 secondsYou're going to have a maintenance of effort issue possibly.
1:53:331 hour, 53 minutes, 33 secondsThe reality of it from our standpoint is we always tell you what we expect it to be. This year it's trending at 3.6.
1:53:451 hour, 53 minutes, 45 secondsAs you and I talked earlier, they're anticipating 8% more next year. Um that
1:53:521 hour, 53 minutes, 52 secondscould if you follow the previous year trends, it could come in at 4.2 or so.
1:54:001 hour, 54 minutesUh haven't done an exact estimate on that.
1:54:031 hour, 54 minutes, 3 secondsBut regardless of what that budget number is, the dollars are going to be what they're going to be. That that
1:54:111 hour, 54 minutes, 11 secondsbudget number does not impact those dollars whatsoever. It does impact what we're showing as revenues in a budget
1:54:191 hour, 54 minutes, 19 secondsand what we're showing as a budgeted deficit. Uh but when we do increase that one,
1:54:261 hour, 54 minutes, 26 secondsthat's an increase to maintenance of effort unless they offset it
1:54:341 hour, 54 minutes, 34 secondsin the other big line item which would be actually impacting the amount of dollars that we would get in a year. And that is on the property tax side.
1:54:451 hour, 54 minutes, 45 secondsBecause if you reduce the property tax,
1:54:471 hour, 54 minutes, 47 secondsyou're actually reducing the pennies that the school system will receive from
1:54:531 hour, 54 minutes, 53 secondsthe property tax. That is a 93% of a hard number that you cannot go
1:55:041 hour, 55 minutes, 4 secondsget more than sales tax is going to come in at whatever sales tax at. Um I
1:55:111 hour, 55 minutes, 11 secondsunderstand the concerns of it being budgeted low. Um that being said, the county has also
1:55:211 hour, 55 minutes, 21 secondsnot always has not budgeted at the amount that it's coming in. Uh my thing is is it just increases
1:55:291 hour, 55 minutes, 29 secondsmaintenance of effort unless you offset it against the others. Then it impacts our revenue. But that's kind of the
1:55:371 hour, 55 minutes, 37 secondsexplanation on there. We've been blessed. Uh 2019 the law changed.
1:55:431 hour, 55 minutes, 43 secondsum CO happened.
1:55:481 hour, 55 minutes, 48 secondsThat's not a blessing. But what came out of CO is everyone started ordering online.
1:55:591 hour, 55 minutes, 59 secondsAnd so Amazon, Walmart did not have delivery. Guess what Walmart's done now?
1:56:081 hour, 56 minutes, 8 secondsThey delivered a hidden count.
1:56:111 hour, 56 minutes, 11 secondsThey did not have delivery services prior to that. And so the sales
1:56:181 hour, 56 minutes, 18 secondstax dollars that are increasing are based off to the point of where you take
1:56:251 hour, 56 minutes, 25 secondspossession. And so everyone started buying more. I can't tell you how many times a truck stops at my house. I know
1:56:331 hour, 56 minutes, 33 secondssome of the other ones in here probably as much or more than than what happens.
1:56:401 hour, 56 minutes, 40 secondsBut it's not just Walmart. It's not just Amazon,
1:56:441 hour, 56 minutes, 44 secondsuh, Costco, Sam's, any of things you start ordering online now for delivered to your house. We get half of the local property tax dollar.
1:56:551 hour, 56 minutes, 55 secondsSo, question and we've talked about Amazon, all this coming in, you know, we getting that part of it. With what's happened in the
1:57:041 hour, 57 minutes, 4 secondscar market in the last few years, has this been affected anything by like if I get on and I order a car and they deliver it to my house,
1:57:131 hour, 57 minutes, 13 secondswhere's that sales tax? That's never been brought up. Oh, no. I'll need to look into that. There's people. Yeah.
1:57:231 hour, 57 minutes, 23 secondsThey get delivered at the house. You do CarMax or you Well, I don't know.
1:57:291 hour, 57 minutes, 29 secondsCarMax. I know Carvana. her mom does. I see them work in our area. So, yeah.
1:57:361 hour, 57 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. I wonder if that's they're gonna deliver to us. Our tax.
1:57:411 hour, 57 minutes, 41 secondsIs it not connected locally with your tag? No. County clerk. But I mean, I bought it.
1:57:501 hour, 57 minutes, 50 secondsI bought my car online from Florida.
1:57:511 hour, 57 minutes, 51 secondsFlew down to Florida to get it, but I paid the difference here versus what it was in Florida. Yeah.
1:57:591 hour, 57 minutes, 59 secondsThey delivered it from Alabama and I pay the taxes at Casey. So we do pay our car or tax.
1:58:101 hour, 58 minutes, 10 secondsUm so I'm not sure if the delivery point because you you pay it based off of county you live in to begin with anyhow.
1:58:201 hour, 58 minutes, 20 secondsSo I'm not sure where shows up, you know, pay some sales tax.
1:58:281 hour, 58 minutes, 28 secondsYeah, we may we may not be seeing those,
1:58:311 hour, 58 minutes, 31 secondsbut we might be seeing a portion. I'll check into um so that's the argument and
1:58:381 hour, 58 minutes, 38 secondsdebate. I I want to say argument and debate. Um
1:58:461 hour, 58 minutes, 46 secondsif you increase those dollars and they don't decrease other areas or increase of maintenance of effort,
1:58:531 hour, 58 minutes, 53 secondsit's just a maintenance of effort. There's two parts to maintenance of effort. There's budgeted maintenance of effort and then there's revenue maintenance of effort
1:59:021 hour, 59 minutes, 2 secondsand we exceed both of those. Um
1:59:101 hour, 59 minutes, 10 secondsso that hasn't been an issue. If it does become an issue then there can be some penalties that that happen with us. Um,
1:59:201 hour, 59 minutes, 20 secondsso, so on your very very first slide, Mhm.
1:59:281 hour, 59 minutes, 28 secondsall the numbers we went through to sum it up, we are looking at a $3.4 million deficit or a $6 million deficit, somewhere in between.
1:59:441 hour, 59 minutes, 44 secondsBudgeted deficits. Yes. Uh I I would actually think that we would be below the 3.3
1:59:531 hour, 59 minutes, 53 secondsbut that is reasonable right now because historically
2:00:002 hoursuh we were at between expenditures being about 89 to 91. the last three years as
2:00:072 hours, 7 secondswe've tried to cut what that budgeted deficit would be,
2:00:172 hours, 17 secondsthat big budgeted deficit would be and be more realistic. That's put us at about expending about 94 and a.5% of what we had budgeted to expense.
2:00:302 hours, 30 secondsum we have cut some of the cushion out this year. Um
2:00:382 hours, 38 secondsthat 94 may still be good. Uh and it probably is. I think one thing that we
2:00:452 hours, 45 secondshave discussed and committed to is uh and again our people our biggest expense
2:00:522 hours, 52 secondsis our personnel. U and I don't mean that in a bad way. That's our personnel.
2:00:582 hours, 58 secondsWe run everything associated with them runs between 80 and 81%. Uh for the last five six years and I can go back farther
2:01:072 hours, 1 minute, 7 secondsand check what those percentages would be. Um but um as far as our other
2:01:152 hours, 1 minute, 15 secondsexpenditures um again we don't spend based off of just willy-nilly. Now, when
2:01:242 hours, 1 minute, 24 secondsyou have a bank account that has quite a bit of money in it, then you can get some of your wants and see if they're
2:01:322 hours, 1 minute, 32 secondsgoing to benefit you. Uh, and you do that in those years. Here, you focus on
2:01:402 hours, 1 minute, 40 secondsneeds. We have some volatility. Energy is volat volatile right now. That could cost us.
2:01:492 hours, 1 minute, 49 secondsthe difference between $2,000 two $200,000 either way in expenditures.
2:01:582 hours, 1 minute, 58 secondsIf electricity continues on its trend, if fuel continues where it's at, which is not
2:02:072 hours, 2 minutes, 7 secondswhat the expectation is, but also two months ago, it wasn't expected to be here now, but it came there. We didn't
2:02:152 hours, 2 minutes, 15 secondsbudget for this this year. It's not killing us, but it is impacting us. And if it continues on that trend, it will impact those expenditures. So,
2:02:282 hours, 2 minutes, 28 secondsthere's volatility that's in there. Uh there's volatility that initially we had
2:02:342 hours, 2 minutes, 34 secondsand we had a significant cushion in the or early years for insurance
2:02:432 hours, 2 minutes, 43 secondsbecause of the affordable care act and not knowing how many people would come on it uh when it was offered and um
2:02:532 hours, 2 minutes, 53 secondsbeing able to do those things. we had to put in um some room for if you have 20 more
2:03:022 hours, 3 minutes, 2 secondspeople come on that's all sudden can be as much as $250,000 additional expenditure.
2:03:092 hours, 3 minutes, 9 secondsUm,
2:03:122 hours, 3 minutes, 12 secondsso you have to have the ability to reasonably a 20% increase or 20 20 more people
2:03:212 hours, 3 minutes, 21 secondscoming on is just a 10% increase in our number of people on our insurance.
2:03:292 hours, 3 minutes, 29 secondsThat's not an unreasonable thing to estimate for. Uh, plus you have
2:03:382 hours, 3 minutes, 38 secondsyour premiums that are associated with it. Um but getting back to maybe the
2:03:462 hours, 3 minutes, 46 secondsmain part of the question is all right I do not think it will be between
2:03:522 hours, 3 minutes, 52 secondsuh 5.9 and 3.3 because I think we will look at expenditures our people will
2:03:592 hours, 3 minutes, 59 secondslook at expenditures and they will expend on need. We addressed some of those last year. Uh Stephen specifically
2:04:072 hours, 4 minutes, 7 secondswent in and looked at inventory on tires and parts and said, "Okay, we can start spending down on that sum and just make
2:04:172 hours, 4 minutes, 17 secondssure we have enough to meet a reasonable need." And then if we get below that
2:04:232 hours, 4 minutes, 23 secondsstock, then we'll purchase more. And so we have supervisors that are looking at doing those things and looking how we
2:04:322 hours, 4 minutes, 32 secondshandle those things. And so we make those adjustments as we go. Um we do not have the ability to create our own revenue.
2:04:442 hours, 4 minutes, 44 secondsUm and government reacts slowly.
2:04:502 hours, 4 minutes, 50 secondsWe if we have a special ed need or we have a classroom need, we do not necessarily
2:04:572 hours, 4 minutes, 57 secondshave the time to react slowly from a legality standpoint.
2:05:032 hours, 5 minutes, 3 secondsU now what we consider emergency needs the state does not necessarily consider an emergency need but we still have to
2:05:122 hours, 5 minutes, 12 secondshave the ability to function in a timely manner to meet some of those needs.
2:05:172 hours, 5 minutes, 17 secondsThat's where some of that cushion comes in. It's not that cushion. It's not that we haven't had a significant amount of cushion over the years. we have but we
2:05:272 hours, 5 minutes, 27 secondshave always been forthright in telling this board and telling this commission where those things are and where what we
2:05:352 hours, 5 minutes, 35 secondsexpect. Um the reality as I've said before without ESSER we would have been hitting fun balance three years earlier.
2:05:482 hours, 5 minutes, 48 secondsyou you had $10 million of expenditures
2:05:542 hours, 5 minutes, 54 secondsthat occurred in Esser that at least 6 million of that would have had to have been done through 141.
2:06:072 hours, 6 minutes, 7 secondsNow, that's off the top of my head.
2:06:102 hours, 6 minutes, 10 secondsDon't hold me to that exact number, but that's the reality. And that's $6 million of fund balance.
2:06:192 hours, 6 minutes, 19 secondsAnd we put it close to our middle right now.
2:06:232 hours, 6 minutes, 23 secondsSo that's where those now did we have to address everything that we did in ES?
2:06:322 hours, 6 minutes, 32 secondsNo, not immediately. But we also know you had to spend funds or did we spend frivolously? Absolutely not.
2:06:432 hours, 6 minutes, 43 secondsWe did things to address what was needed to be done and some of those things because things continue. For instance,
2:06:512 hours, 6 minutes, 51 secondsuh we had a technology position that was esser funded.
2:06:562 hours, 6 minutes, 56 secondsBefore ESSER came along, we didn't have to get to one.
2:07:032 hours, 7 minutes, 3 secondsWe went from a cart at each school and in the library
2:07:112 hours, 7 minutes, 11 secondsto everyone having a computer and the infrastructure to do that. So yeah, once
2:07:202 hours, 7 minutes, 20 secondsEsther was done, we could have done away with that technology position, but then we wouldn't have the personnel to help
2:07:272 hours, 7 minutes, 27 secondsmeet the needs of keeping that infrastructure and that technology there.
2:07:322 hours, 7 minutes, 32 secondsAnd so with those dollars being being an expense, you sometimes have to pick up the other dollars that were associated with it uh to meet learning loss needs.
2:07:442 hours, 7 minutes, 44 secondsThere is still learning loss that we're having to address. And so while we funded a lot of those initial tutors and
2:07:522 hours, 7 minutes, 52 secondssupport personnel through ESSER and learning loss, while we're still having to address those and meet those, we have
2:08:012 hours, 8 minutes, 1 secondto pick that up in 141. That does not mean that we kept all of those positions that were funded through ESER. But it
2:08:092 hours, 8 minutes, 9 secondsdoes mean that as those situations arise again now we have to address those with
2:08:172 hours, 8 minutes, 17 seconds$141 not with grant dollars.
2:08:222 hours, 8 minutes, 22 secondsUm so so realizing that that deficit number
2:08:302 hours, 8 minutes, 30 secondswill fluctuate right and and realizing that we're only here to control the spending. But if we
2:08:372 hours, 8 minutes, 37 secondsflip side look at the revenue, the big line item revenues, we got three of them, right? Tissa, property taxes, and
2:08:462 hours, 8 minutes, 46 secondssales tax, right? So TISA, we got a one point, we're roughly estimating a 1.1%
2:08:522 hours, 8 minutes, 52 secondsincrease in TIA dollars.
2:09:022 hours, 9 minutes, 2 secondsYeah, that's one. So right now the TIA increases will be $140,000 over last year. That's what the current estimate
2:09:112 hours, 9 minutes, 11 secondshas come in at the state portion of TISA. So there's two portions of TISA.
2:09:162 hours, 9 minutes, 16 secondsThere's a state portion and there's a local portion.
2:09:202 hours, 9 minutes, 20 secondsThose amounts are based off of your ADMs and then based off of your economic capacity.
2:09:272 hours, 9 minutes, 27 secondsUm the state has a full fund of TISA.
2:09:332 hours, 9 minutes, 33 secondsTissa is made up of 70% state funds and 30% local funds.
2:09:422 hours, 9 minutes, 42 secondsTissa funds based off of teacher state teacher ratios. That's my understanding. I could
2:09:512 hours, 9 minutes, 51 secondsbe wrong on that. So if you have if you are out of line with those ratios, those
2:09:582 hours, 9 minutes, 58 secondsare teaching positions that you need or you're saying you need and but those aren't necessarily coming through Tissa.
2:10:092 hours, 10 minutes, 9 secondsIt's no different than BEP when those of you who were teachers or in the school system, uh, when the state would say they were doing a 4% teacher raise, um,
2:10:222 hours, 10 minutes, 22 secondswe as teachers would think we're getting a 4% raise. No, that was just a 4% of what was funded through
2:10:292 hours, 10 minutes, 29 secondsBEP and it was just the state's portion of the BEP, which was about 82% of what our funding would be. Uh so that 4%
2:10:402 hours, 10 minutes, 40 secondswould equate to about 2 and a.5% when we would disperse that raise to our people.
2:10:462 hours, 10 minutes, 46 secondsUm so TISSA is made up of two parts. It's made up of 70%
2:10:562 hours, 10 minutes, 56 secondsstate 30% local. Your local portion is based off of your economic capacity.
2:11:052 hours, 11 minutes, 5 secondsAnd so someone if Williamson County had the exact same ADM numbers as we did,
2:11:112 hours, 11 minutes, 11 secondsthey would have a lot less of a state supply because of their economic
2:11:182 hours, 11 minutes, 18 secondscapacity being so much higher. Uh the local amount that would be being contributed to that TISA total would be
2:11:282 hours, 11 minutes, 28 secondsa lot higher than ours because of their economic capacity. But the TISA is reported just in this one. Both those together local and state.
2:11:392 hours, 11 minutes, 39 secondsNo, that's just the state portion of the TA. Where's the local?
2:11:432 hours, 11 minutes, 43 secondsThere is the local is what the local funds us in those yellow highlight things. Correct.
2:11:502 hours, 11 minutes, 50 secondsThat's not the state. The state tells them that says what the minimum TI of dollars can be,
2:12:022 hours, 12 minutes, 2 secondsbut you also have the maintenance of effort aspect that is tied into that. So the the minimum TISA dollars really
2:12:092 hours, 12 minutes, 9 secondsdon't come into play unless you go unless you were able to go below that and you can't. So
2:12:162 hours, 12 minutes, 16 secondsokay. So, so looking at the state diesel dollars, they're giving us one, it's estimated 1.1% increase. And our
2:12:242 hours, 12 minutes, 24 secondsproperty taxes, looks like it's going to be about a 2.3% increase.
2:12:302 hours, 12 minutes, 30 secondsAnd we're not budgeting for any sales tax increase.
2:12:342 hours, 12 minutes, 34 secondsUh, in the same year that we have to pay our teachers 4.33% more.
2:12:402 hours, 12 minutes, 40 secondsNo, that's um that's where we ask that question again. You just asked.
2:12:462 hours, 12 minutes, 46 secondsSo we're seeing a mandatory teacher salary raise right correct roughly four%.
2:12:552 hours, 12 minutes, 55 secondsSo we have this percentage increase in re uh in expenditures but our our revenues are increasing by 2% 1% and 0%. Our budgeted revenues.
2:13:072 hours, 13 minutes, 7 secondsOkay.
2:13:082 hours, 13 minutes, 8 secondsSo I guess we need to communicate that with the community with the commissioners
2:13:152 hours, 13 minutes, 15 secondsthat this is a unique year with expenditures and co dollars are gone.
2:13:212 hours, 13 minutes, 21 secondsCorrect. And so we are having to fill a gap that hasn't needed to be filled ever
2:13:272 hours, 13 minutes, 27 secondsbefore. Right. I guess as I think part of where where I want us to be careful of
2:13:362 hours, 13 minutes, 36 secondsso When we talk about budgeted dollars for sales tax,
2:13:452 hours, 13 minutes, 45 secondsum, again, that's a figure that does not impact what you get for sales tax.
2:13:522 hours, 13 minutes, 52 secondsBut when you see my that nine, that estimate over there based off of 94%
2:13:592 hours, 13 minutes, 59 secondsexpenditures and based off 101.5% revenues.
2:14:052 hours, 14 minutes, 5 secondsthat's showing an estimated additional in sales tax. Maybe not exactly what
2:14:122 hours, 14 minutes, 12 secondswe're expecting to come in because the reality is sales tax can be
2:14:182 hours, 14 minutes, 18 secondsvolatile and an econ when we have an economic downturn
2:14:272 hours, 14 minutes, 27 secondsthat will not come in at what we're thinking. We've been riding high for multiple reasons. Uh, one was inflation,
2:14:372 hours, 14 minutes, 37 secondstwo was the dollars that were pumped into um the county because of CO when we all
2:14:442 hours, 14 minutes, 44 secondsgot those CO dollars in those early years.
2:14:492 hours, 14 minutes, 49 secondsSo, it's a volatile number
2:14:552 hours, 14 minutes, 55 secondsum but it is going to be what it's going to be. And so that estimate a portion of
2:15:032 hours, 15 minutes, 3 secondsthat estimated increased um uh sales tax dollars is in that 94.5
2:15:122 hours, 15 minutes, 12 secondsand 101.5 uh dollar amount there. Whether it's accurate,
2:15:192 hours, 15 minutes, 19 secondsno, but it's in there and I need to play around with that a little bit. Uh but yeah.
2:15:252 hours, 15 minutes, 25 secondsSo does that make sense in what I'm saying? Does that answer your question?
2:15:282 hours, 15 minutes, 28 secondsAnd where I'm coming from is in my business I realize I'm a a leader of an organization and one of my primary responsibilities is to remove confusion.
2:15:392 hours, 15 minutes, 39 secondsCorrect.
2:15:392 hours, 15 minutes, 39 secondsRight. Because what do confused people do? Nothing. And nothing can be making a bad decision. Yeah. So we as leaders of the school board,
2:15:482 hours, 15 minutes, 48 secondsleaders of the county commission, we have to eliminate confusion to let people know where we're at. Right. We're not I agree. We're not just making numbers up just to be making numbers up.
2:15:592 hours, 15 minutes, 59 secondsThat there's a real issue here.
2:16:002 hours, 16 minutesThe pro the problem with that is when you involve government because government's confusing and it's not straightforward and and
2:16:102 hours, 16 minutes, 10 secondsyeah, so yeah, I agree with you 100%. We have to try and avoid confusion. Uh T is
2:16:172 hours, 16 minutes, 17 secondsconfusing enough. Local option sales tax and how that works is confusing enough.
2:16:232 hours, 16 minutes, 23 secondsmaintenance of effort is confusing enough. Um how all of this is funded is confusing.
2:16:332 hours, 16 minutes, 33 secondsSo it's a little bit harder on those of you who run a business,
2:16:402 hours, 16 minutes, 40 secondsyour revenues and your expenditures are straightforward.
2:16:442 hours, 16 minutes, 44 secondsYour operations are fairly straightforward.
2:16:502 hours, 16 minutes, 50 secondsIt's not as easy straightforward with a governmental agency in relation to funding and expenditures.
2:17:022 hours, 17 minutes, 2 secondsUm there are needs that we have to meet that sometimes we can't anticipate.
2:17:112 hours, 17 minutes, 11 secondsSometimes we do put the cushion in to anticipate, but and I won't go into specifics because I don't need to go
2:17:182 hours, 17 minutes, 18 secondsinto specifics, but there have been hundreds of thousands of dollars that
2:17:252 hours, 17 minutes, 25 secondswe've had to address immediately in order to operate a school, open a school. that if
2:17:342 hours, 17 minutes, 34 secondswe had not anticipated that with a cushion in the butt or put a cushion in
2:17:402 hours, 17 minutes, 40 secondsa budgeted line item to help in that we may not have been able to address those situations as quickly. We would not have
2:17:482 hours, 17 minutes, 48 secondsbeen able to address those situations as quickly as we needed to. I think what Brandon is kind of saying too is just that I think
2:17:562 hours, 17 minutes, 56 secondsjust kind of simplifying it down so that the public can understand like just like this is how much we're getting.
2:18:052 hours, 18 minutes, 5 secondsThis it's you know we're we're required to increase by this much and we're only getting this much of an increase. And so
2:18:122 hours, 18 minutes, 12 secondsthat makes it I I know in years past like I've been in this town for years and no it's never come out like really
2:18:222 hours, 18 minutes, 22 secondsmuch so in the paper like what exactly is going on you know as far as how the schools are funded and and things like and I think there's been
2:18:302 hours, 18 minutes, 30 secondsa concerted effort on our part in the last is to educate the public on because
2:18:382 hours, 18 minutes, 38 secondsthe public schools I mean that their tax dollars are on there. Um, and to educate them on what we're having to spend, how we're reimbursed, why that's important.
2:18:502 hours, 18 minutes, 50 secondsAnd I think it is important for the public to know exactly what's, you know,
2:18:562 hours, 18 minutes, 56 secondsnot exact, I mean, not that you can know exactly, but what's coming in, what we're being reimbured,
2:19:042 hours, 19 minutes, 4 secondsor what's not going and what's not.
2:19:062 hours, 19 minutes, 6 secondsExactly. And so I think it's just been in the past that the public hasn't really understood
2:19:142 hours, 19 minutes, 14 secondswhat we're not necessarily getting um sometimes, you know, from the county. So
2:19:232 hours, 19 minutes, 23 secondsum I think that's just I think it's important for them to and the county, you know, they have to make their decisions and they're making their decisions for the whole county,
2:19:332 hours, 19 minutes, 33 secondsright? Um, now I think we have tried I don't think I'm the best at explaining
2:19:422 hours, 19 minutes, 42 secondsbut I think we have tried to explain the local portion of revenues and the state portion of revenues. Um,
2:19:522 hours, 19 minutes, 52 secondswe have the reality is in every meeting probably we have had for the last two
2:19:592 hours, 19 minutes, 59 secondsand a half years, we've mentioned we have to be at $50,000 by school year 2027.
2:20:082 hours, 20 minutes, 8 secondsUh, probably not every meeting, but that's a consistent thing about it. We have said in multiple meetings what I
2:20:162 hours, 20 minutes, 16 secondssaid about ES and that those would have been dollars that we would have been expending and not receiving funds for uh
2:20:242 hours, 20 minutes, 24 secondsunless they would come from local dollars in order to do those things. Um
2:20:312 hours, 20 minutes, 31 secondsit's hard to explain u the ideal of TISA and how it works. Um
2:20:382 hours, 20 minutes, 38 secondsit's hard even when you sit there and read the document and are in it that 7030
2:20:472 hours, 20 minutes, 47 secondsis a straightforward concept but the economic capacity is not a straightforward concept.
2:20:552 hours, 20 minutes, 55 secondsum the local maintenance of effort and the sales tax dollars.
2:21:022 hours, 21 minutes, 2 secondsYou know, it's been a struggle and and maybe the way I explain things, but people do not have it. It it doesn't
2:21:112 hours, 21 minutes, 11 secondsmean we're not getting increased funding, but what is budgeted for sales tax
2:21:192 hours, 21 minutes, 19 secondsdoesn't impact the funding. what is budgeted for the property tax does that's been hard to get people it's been
2:21:272 hours, 21 minutes, 27 secondshard to get the board to understand because it doesn't make logical sense from a business standpoint
2:21:362 hours, 21 minutes, 36 secondsum from what I understand too the state has kind of pushed the wholesale I mean I think
2:21:432 hours, 21 minutes, 43 secondsum the state's kind of pushing that too so and it's been a great benefit Yeah. So, I'm not Yeah, absolutely.
2:21:512 hours, 21 minutes, 51 secondsAnd how important it is too for the public to know just the fact that um
2:21:592 hours, 21 minutes, 59 secondslosing every student you lose out of public schools, that's you know 7,000 what is it? 7,500. And so that's why
2:22:082 hours, 22 minutes, 8 secondsit's so important. That's what we are trying to encourage, you know, people to have their that's why we want our schools to be better so people more
2:22:162 hours, 22 minutes, 16 secondspeople will put their kids back in public school so that we can and you know that that affects our funding. So that's important for them to know too.
2:22:262 hours, 22 minutes, 26 secondsWell, last two years since we've been trying to get the salaries up and this year, you know, we're finally getting there. We're supposed to but the state's
2:22:352 hours, 22 minutes, 35 secondsnot giving us reimbursements anymore for that, you know, and the county has been steadily pulling, you know, six cents or
2:22:432 hours, 22 minutes, 43 secondshere or there. So, you know, and that makes our reserve less and less. We we
2:22:512 hours, 22 minutes, 51 secondswent down the last eight years where we were if you look back,
2:22:562 hours, 22 minutes, 56 secondswe're way down. And if something bad happens, you know, we're going to have to go to them, you know, and say, "Look,
2:23:032 hours, 23 minutes, 3 secondswe need this." And they don't want to see us, you know, we don't want to have to go, but it's going to happen. You know, we're looking at
2:23:112 hours, 23 minutes, 11 secondsthis. And I've said this before, we're looking at this sewer plant out here that go take free schools that go down.
2:23:172 hours, 23 minutes, 17 secondsThat's a major hit. 2025 million that How old is that? It was put in in 04.
2:23:262 hours, 23 minutes, 26 seconds30 years. 30 something years old and you know there were discussions and
2:23:352 hours, 23 minutes, 35 secondsdebate about that a couple years ago and some I'll just say it misrepresented
2:23:422 hours, 23 minutes, 42 secondscomments uh were made um but as far as the school's position on it um
2:23:542 hours, 23 minutes, 54 secondswe we don't need to be in the sewer business. We're in the school business. That's always been our position.
2:24:022 hours, 24 minutes, 2 secondsAnd is it ready to break down? No. If it ever does, is it going to be a significant cost? Yes, it would be a
2:24:102 hours, 24 minutes, 10 secondssignificant cost, but it's not something that we necessarily need to be in the business of. That was always the
2:24:172 hours, 24 minutes, 17 secondsposition under Michelle. That was the position under Mr. Mullins. It's not
2:24:232 hours, 24 minutes, 23 secondsthat we are fearful of of of it happening, but if it does happen, then
2:24:312 hours, 24 minutes, 31 secondsthat's a significant cost that comes upon us or or the county.
2:24:382 hours, 24 minutes, 38 secondsUm I get, you know, I and as I'm getting older, I'm stressing more over this stuff to be honest with you,
2:24:472 hours, 24 minutes, 47 secondsuh because it's getting harder. Um,
2:24:512 hours, 24 minutes, 51 secondsbut sometimes I get a little bit ill with you all. And I don't mean that that I really get ill, but when you try and tie
2:24:592 hours, 24 minutes, 59 secondsme down to an an exact amount when you're working with a expenditure
2:25:062 hours, 25 minutes, 6 secondsrise, an actual expenditure rise of $36 million.
2:25:122 hours, 25 minutes, 12 secondsa 1% me being wrong by 1% is a significant amount to the public.
2:25:232 hours, 25 minutes, 23 secondsOkay, 1% of $36 million is a significant amount, but it's still only a 1% being off by.
2:25:342 hours, 25 minutes, 34 secondsBut when you're comparing it to a smaller budget, well, it's maybe 20% of that budget.
2:25:422 hours, 25 minutes, 42 secondsBut it's still you're estimating your expenditures and looking at what's happening based off of your needs, based
2:25:492 hours, 25 minutes, 49 secondsoff of what you know, and based off of prior information and what you can glean about the future. We have hit fund balance.
2:25:592 hours, 25 minutes, 59 secondsThe last two years we've hit fund balance at a total of roughly
2:26:072 hours, 26 minutes, 7 secondsuh 1 8 and a half million two or just oh combined
2:26:152 hours, 26 minutes, 15 secondsum don't hold me to the exact but that's the numbers that were on the report earlier those may not be the exact
2:26:242 hours, 26 minutes, 24 secondsaudited numbers but those were fund balances last year was 1.2 275. Like I
2:26:302 hours, 26 minutes, 30 secondstold you, we were able to divert about 220,000 of first quarter salaries
2:26:402 hours, 26 minutes, 40 secondsto esser dollars that we were not going to be able to expend on projects to
2:26:462 hours, 26 minutes, 46 secondsfinish esser up or that would have been 1 almost 1.6 million last year. Um the
2:26:562 hours, 26 minutes, 56 secondsprior year before that we were able to reimburse some of our expenditures through Reser that were capital like
2:27:032 hours, 27 minutes, 3 secondsexpenditures that kept that one from being higher. Um I gave you an estimate
2:27:102 hours, 27 minutes, 10 secondsof about 1.9 for this year. That could be higher, that could be lower. Um I'll
2:27:182 hours, 27 minutes, 18 secondsrun numbers again. I'll review them with uh Derek and Dr. Anderson and Miss
2:27:262 hours, 27 minutes, 26 secondsTidwell and we'll try and make an estimate for Monday night, but it's still an estimate because there's expenses that can come in that not as we
2:27:362 hours, 27 minutes, 36 secondsget closer to the date, we can make sure. I always hope we don't hit fun balance. I hope I'm the wrongest person
2:27:432 hours, 27 minutes, 43 secondswhen it comes to that. But the reality is in the past when we projected a possible fund balance hit,
2:27:532 hours, 27 minutes, 53 secondsnot a sign, I'm not talking about this big budget number, but a possible fund balance hit and then it didn't come to
2:28:022 hours, 28 minutes, 2 secondsfruition. People were like, why in the heck did you say it was going to happen?
2:28:072 hours, 28 minutes, 7 secondsWell, and we took a lot of or this is before I was anyone on the board, but I remember reading about every year, you know, people were mad that we didn't hit
2:28:162 hours, 28 minutes, 16 secondsfund balance. It's like you're sitting here with all all this money and you're grabbing about, you know, and then they're they're mad because we didn't hit fund balance. So, and now it's like,
2:28:252 hours, 28 minutes, 25 secondsyou know, I'll give you some instances and I'm talking way too long and we just need to get on with deciding what we're doing about the revenues so you guys can
2:28:332 hours, 28 minutes, 33 secondsget out here. Uh but when we make estimates for capital projects, we have
2:28:422 hours, 28 minutes, 42 secondsto do the estimates based off of quotes that people are giving us. So if you're redoing a parking lot, the initial
2:28:502 hours, 28 minutes, 50 secondsestimate for the parking lot 7 8 n years ago to completely redo the parking lot
2:28:572 hours, 28 minutes, 57 secondsat Hitman County High School was about $800,000.
2:29:032 hours, 29 minutes, 3 secondsSo that's what we put in to the budget.
2:29:072 hours, 29 minutes, 7 secondsWhen the bids came through, the bids actually ended up the low bid ended up being about $480,000.
2:29:172 hours, 29 minutes, 17 secondsWell, that's a $320,000 difference. Now, we could have went with the bidder who did $800,000,
2:29:242 hours, 29 minutes, 24 secondsso we would have hit, you know, but we don't you're estimating and you're trying to do. And then when
2:29:322 hours, 29 minutes, 32 secondsyou do the expenditures, you're trying to do the expenditures that is needed,
2:29:372 hours, 29 minutes, 37 secondsnot the expenditures because you've got the money in the budget. We're not trying to create a budget that is
2:29:442 hours, 29 minutes, 44 secondsunrealistic. We're trying to create a budget that is worst case scenario, not the absolute worst case, reasonable
2:29:522 hours, 29 minutes, 52 secondsworst case scenario, so we can still meet our needs, provide the expected scenario in our communications, and then
2:30:012 hours, 30 minutes, 1 secondhope we can get the funding to help do that. Sure.
2:30:052 hours, 30 minutes, 5 secondsAnd I don't think that's I think I don't know what your business was, but when I'm doing a budget a budget for my business or even personally, if I know
2:30:132 hours, 30 minutes, 13 secondsthere are expenditures, I'm going to I'm going to lean to for the high end of that. Oh,
2:30:192 hours, 30 minutes, 19 secondsyou know, I mean, and that's what you're doing. I mean, and I I mean, I understand that. I don't I don't I think I don't know, but I would think that
2:30:282 hours, 30 minutes, 28 secondspeople would understand that. And there's still savings in this possible savings in this budget of expenditures depending on
2:30:362 hours, 30 minutes, 36 secondspossible personnel attrition that ends up naturally occurring. That doesn't look like it's occurring now there. So
2:30:452 hours, 30 minutes, 45 secondsthere's possible savings there. There's possible savings on uh the side of our
2:30:532 hours, 30 minutes, 53 secondsutilities and stuff. There's savings. We may we have a lot of $8,000 and $5,000
2:31:012 hours, 31 minutes, 1 secondline items that we may spend them all on or we may not spend any money on that line item, but it still needs to be
2:31:102 hours, 31 minutes, 10 secondsthere to address the needs that are specific to that program and need.
2:31:162 hours, 31 minutes, 16 secondsUm, so it really comes down to what do we need not for? In my opinion, it's not short term.
2:31:272 hours, 31 minutes, 27 secondsIt's not that you get it all back at once. There's things that we have to do as a system and that we've
2:31:342 hours, 31 minutes, 34 secondsbeen doing as a system. But if we have hit fund balance and if we're going to continue to hit fund balance and again I
2:31:412 hours, 31 minutes, 41 secondshope I'm the worst person this year and that we don't hit fund balance and I'll happily hand in my resignation and
2:31:492 hours, 31 minutes, 49 secondsretirement and go traveling to be able to do that and say I was wrong. But we're going to hit fun balance again.
2:31:572 hours, 31 minutes, 57 secondsRight. So let's keep that in mind.
2:31:592 hours, 31 minutes, 59 secondsYeah. So 3 3.3 you said there's probably room to go and get that number down.
2:32:042 hours, 32 minutes, 4 secondsThere's room to get that. Let's start to use that as a conversation. Yes.
2:32:072 hours, 32 minutes, 7 secondsOkay. There's not a lot of revenue wiggle room with our TA, right? That's pretty set. Pretty close. It's not exact, but it's close. Pretty set.
2:32:152 hours, 32 minutes, 15 secondsOkay. Our property taxes are pretty close.
2:32:192 hours, 32 minutes, 19 secondsOur as far as what they currently have in there. Yes.
2:32:232 hours, 32 minutes, 23 secondsNow, you're going to collect more than that. You're going to collect probably 100% of the property tax available, but it's going to be a sign that amount.
2:32:302 hours, 32 minutes, 30 secondsCorrect. Correct. So even with a this 3.3, let's reduce it down to three. Even if they doubled our sales tax, budget
2:32:392 hours, 32 minutes, 39 secondssales tax, we're still hitting fund balance. It's that much of a deficit that our three biggest two of our three biggest resources are pretty much set in
2:32:482 hours, 32 minutes, 48 secondsstone where our third would have to be doubled to not fit fund balance.
2:32:582 hours, 32 minutes, 58 secondsYes, I understand what you're saying,
2:33:012 hours, 33 minutes, 1 secondbut and I'm not I'm not throwing stones at you. Holy crap.
2:33:082 hours, 33 minutes, 8 secondsThis Yeah. No, that's the truth. But this is the This is the actual aspect of it. The
2:33:162 hours, 33 minutes, 16 secondsbudget number of sales tax means nothing to whether we hit fun balance or not. I know. I'm saying,
2:33:222 hours, 33 minutes, 22 secondsbut that's what everyone else doesn't to understand. And so you talk about people having to understand
2:33:332 hours, 33 minutes, 33 secondsand wanting people to understand, that's the part that people don't understand because they say they're under budgeting
2:33:402 hours, 33 minutes, 40 secondsfund balance. We are under budgeting fund balance, but we're also recognizing in our estimated number, not fund
2:33:482 hours, 33 minutes, 48 secondsbalance, sales tax, but we're also realizing in our estimated number what sales taxes going to more likely be.
2:33:572 hours, 33 minutes, 57 secondsThat's where so you talked about that communication the we can increase that budgeted number
2:34:052 hours, 34 minutes, 5 secondsfor sales tax and that will change this number that's on here.
2:34:112 hours, 34 minutes, 11 secondsWell, it's not the likelihood of a doubling, right? If we if we put it up to if we increased it by a million, the
2:34:182 hours, 34 minutes, 18 secondssales tax dollars by a million on the sales tax side, that's going to change that 5.9 million to 4.9 million.
2:34:292 hours, 34 minutes, 29 secondsIt's not going to change that 3.373 million. That's still going to be the same because those revenues
2:34:392 hours, 34 minutes, 39 secondsare already considered in that estimated amount. So,
2:34:462 hours, 34 minutes, 46 secondswhat's the actual where do we come up with the actual that's for you all to decide on that? I can give recommendations.
2:34:562 hours, 34 minutes, 56 secondsUh I don't see how you could budget the sales tax any higher than what you got in there because it's not a it's an exhaustion.
2:35:032 hours, 35 minutes, 3 secondsIt could go lower. I mean a lot, you know,
2:35:072 hours, 35 minutes, 7 secondsit's just it's just a fallacy that it's in there because it affects maintenance of effort and it's
2:35:142 hours, 35 minutes, 14 secondsit creates a problem for us in budgeting because it if you increase it, you're increasing
2:35:222 hours, 35 minutes, 22 secondsmaintenance of effort. Maintenance of effort is a number. It's a number they have to deal with, but it's still just a number. You don't increasing that
2:35:312 hours, 35 minutes, 31 secondsdoesn't increase anything but maintenance of effort.
2:35:352 hours, 35 minutes, 35 secondsif we're being realistic about this is what we're actually going to get. So, this is what we see our stuff be. Um,
2:35:432 hours, 35 minutes, 43 secondslike I said, that 3.3 we currently have in there, I don't think that will be our number, but I think that's a reasonable one that could hit if we stay where
2:35:512 hours, 35 minutes, 51 secondswe're at on everything. I would hope it would be less because we have a tendency to even on our reasonable estimate to
2:36:012 hours, 36 minutes, 1 secondperform a little bit less because we watch our expenditures. So the question becomes do you ask for additional
2:36:082 hours, 36 minutes, 8 secondsproperty tax dollars in a reevalu in a reevaluation year? was ours this year that what was it 2.5 or 2.2 that we said
2:36:172 hours, 36 minutes, 17 secondswe thought would we originally I think estimated a 2.5 or something along that line. I'd have to go back and look. I think you guys
2:36:262 hours, 36 minutes, 26 secondswanted us to come in but get down below that 2.5 on this estimated part. Yeah,
2:36:332 hours, 36 minutes, 33 secondsbut it so it was 2.5 and I'm not trying to tie you.
2:36:382 hours, 36 minutes, 38 secondsBut um you said right now, did I hear you say like it's looking like maybe 1.9 something for this coming year? Yeah.
2:36:462 hours, 36 minutes, 46 secondsWhat we ran in March with March numbers was it was actually 2.010,
2:36:562 hours, 36 minutes, 56 secondsbut there was a little bit in there that I knew.
2:37:002 hours, 37 minutessomething that I was confident on. So, but again,
2:37:052 hours, 37 minutes, 5 secondsit was an estimate, but yeah, it was an estimate.
2:37:122 hours, 37 minutes, 12 secondsThat's
2:37:282 hours, 37 minutes, 28 secondsSo, let let me ask this just uh are there any expenditure line items that you think we ought to change at this
2:37:362 hours, 37 minutes, 36 secondspoint in time or that you have a question on that doesn't mean as we look at them between
2:37:442 hours, 37 minutes, 44 secondsnow and Monday that we won't change some and come back and tell you what we've changed based off of the district. The
2:37:522 hours, 37 minutes, 52 secondsonly thing in in any budget is is personnel and operating costs, right?
2:37:572 hours, 37 minutes, 57 secondsAnd we have an operation cost that comes down um is in maintenance because we never know what's going to break.
2:38:062 hours, 38 minutes, 6 secondsCorrect.
2:38:072 hours, 38 minutes, 7 secondsAnd we've had a habit in the last few years of picking the phone up and calling somebody to fix a lot of stuff
2:38:142 hours, 38 minutes, 14 secondsthat we could fix. And to me, that's that's a problem. I'll just say it.
2:38:192 hours, 38 minutes, 19 secondsThat's a problem. There's a lot of stuff that we used to do in maintainance that they don't do now.
2:38:262 hours, 38 minutes, 26 secondsSo somewhere along the line that needs to be addressed and we can get that down hopefully and some areas that need to be
2:38:342 hours, 38 minutes, 34 secondslooked into and not wait until it breaks. You know, that's I'm arguing with Dix right now about
2:38:422 hours, 38 minutes, 42 secondssome trees uh for three years because they're sitting right across my power line on road and they're going to fall.
2:38:512 hours, 38 minutes, 51 secondsThey are going to fall. They're dead.
2:38:522 hours, 38 minutes, 52 secondsThey've been dead any time. They won't fix it. If it falls down there, they're not going to fix it. That's not being
2:39:002 hours, 39 minutesproactive. It cost a lot more money to come out there then and do it than it would be to do it now. And that's kind of like me, you know, proactive when it
2:39:082 hours, 39 minutes, 8 secondscomes to fixing things. If I know something's going to tear up, I know this is going, I want to take care of it and not wait till it breaks and it cost me three times. And I can tell you a
2:39:172 hours, 39 minutes, 17 secondsgreat horror story happened that it's going to take me a while. Uh,
2:39:232 hours, 39 minutes, 23 secondsbut yeah,
2:39:252 hours, 39 minutes, 25 secondsthat that's something, you know, we really need to think think about and that's one place we can, you know, maybe
2:39:322 hours, 39 minutes, 32 secondsimprove is that area. that process that's not in here
2:39:402 hours, 39 minutes, 40 secondsum addressing that specifically and it is not in here um we are going to have
2:39:462 hours, 39 minutes, 46 secondsto bid HVAC services I think we know that and because there are some services
2:39:542 hours, 39 minutes, 54 secondswe can't do so we'll send out I think we're sending out a similar bid that we had is that correct there
2:40:022 hours, 40 minutes, 2 secondswe sent out similar bid that we And okay, so we are bidding those. The other thing that we had talked about, and he actually talked about this a few years ago, um, but it didn't come to fruition,
2:40:142 hours, 40 minutes, 14 secondswas looking at hiring,
2:40:172 hours, 40 minutes, 17 secondsuh, maintenance personnel with an HVAC license.
2:40:232 hours, 40 minutes, 23 secondsAnd so we've discussed that in the last couple weeks uh about possibly
2:40:322 hours, 40 minutes, 32 secondsputting both of those in the budget with the ideal that one you may not be able to get the position filled.
2:40:412 hours, 40 minutes, 41 secondsUm but it's in the budget so it's an expense that's showing but an expense that doesn't happen. uh or two, you've
2:40:502 hours, 40 minutes, 50 secondsgot the right now the budgeted expenditures that would be associated with the contracted services in the budget and then you have the personnel.
2:40:592 hours, 40 minutes, 59 secondsIf you do fill the personnel, then what you're not going to be doing is spending as much on the uh services because now
2:41:072 hours, 41 minutes, 7 secondsyou're spending on personnel that can do some of those services. So what would happen is for one year whenever we
2:41:142 hours, 41 minutes, 14 secondsdecide to try and do that we would be double budgeting an expenditure.
2:41:192 hours, 41 minutes, 19 secondsI see what that is but I and so so we are looking at that. It's not in there yet.
2:41:262 hours, 41 minutes, 26 secondsI know but it's something we need to look because again I look at the bills every month like you do and I see a lot of this stuff that we can do.
2:41:342 hours, 41 minutes, 34 secondsIt's not a breakout. It's a it's a maintenance thing.
2:41:372 hours, 41 minutes, 37 secondsRight. We got a cooler that's running warm and you got to come out and pay somebody from Nashville to come out and clean the coals which everybody needs to do refrigerator refrigerator system
2:41:452 hours, 41 minutes, 45 secondsanyhow. That's a common thing and we don't do it anymore. Used to years ago it's summer doing it now. We just pick phone out. It's thousand bucks right there. Bam.
2:41:562 hours, 41 minutes, 56 secondsTwo hours do it. One person they clean.
2:42:012 hours, 42 minutes, 1 secondBut that's that's what I'm that's what I'm talking about. You don't have to have a certified person for that. a lot of stuff we do because that is a specialized field. Can we hire somebody?
2:42:092 hours, 42 minutes, 9 secondsSure. We didn't think we'd ever hire an electrician. We did,
2:42:132 hours, 42 minutes, 13 secondsyou know, and that's been a great service cuz they' saved us many thousands of dollars fixing the sign out of these that we wanted to replace.
2:42:222 hours, 42 minutes, 22 secondsYeah.
2:42:232 hours, 42 minutes, 23 secondsYou know, and fixing the steps going down and a few other things that, you know, come that wasn't a big issue. Just needed fixing instead of contracting out and money going out the door.
2:42:352 hours, 42 minutes, 35 secondsSo, you know, but that's something we need to we need to sit down and look at.
2:42:402 hours, 42 minutes, 40 secondsNow, last thing I'm I just want to know what your view is on what we need to do for Monday night. You're going to have it.
2:42:472 hours, 42 minutes, 47 secondsSo, yeah,
2:42:492 hours, 42 minutes, 49 secondsobviously I think this board and I have communicated this to Crystal. Crystal's not in control of anything other than she's who I communicate with
2:42:592 hours, 42 minutes, 59 secondsbased off of what we said last year and stuff. um that you all would seek at a
2:43:062 hours, 43 minutes, 6 secondsminimum what we willingly gave up last year. So I think
2:43:132 hours, 43 minutes, 13 secondsthat's a minimum uh that you guys would put back in. That's going to impact your number by about $300,000.
2:43:222 hours, 43 minutes, 22 secondsNow you got $140,000 additional coming in uh Tissa money. So
2:43:292 hours, 43 minutes, 29 secondsyou're 5 point or 440,000 roughly. Don't hold me to those exact
2:43:362 hours, 43 minutes, 36 secondsnumbers. Problem is your expenditures have increased more than that just on
2:43:412 hours, 43 minutes, 41 secondsyour personnel side. Um and so that's not going to close the gap on the deficit.
2:43:522 hours, 43 minutes, 52 secondsSo the question becomes question becomes how much do we want to
2:43:592 hours, 43 minutes, 59 secondsclose that gap on the deficit? Here's my fear and relate this to uh uh Midwell
2:44:072 hours, 44 minutes, 7 secondsand and Dr. Anderson um is that we're we can go in and do a
2:44:162 hours, 44 minutes, 16 secondszerobased budget. That's a little bit hard to do, but we can go in and do that. Um,
2:44:232 hours, 44 minutes, 23 secondsbut then we're not um preparing for expenditures
2:44:322 hours, 44 minutes, 32 secondsthat we are anticipating happening, but we don't have the ability to address them.
2:44:402 hours, 44 minutes, 40 secondsSo my fear is if we don't get additional revenues next year when we go to budget
2:44:462 hours, 44 minutes, 46 secondsand if we hit if we happen to hit at 2 million this year and let's just say 2 and a.5 million next year. I hope not.
2:44:562 hours, 44 minutes, 56 secondsBut then when we go to actually do a tighter budget like we've been doing tighter budgets then we do not have fun
2:45:032 hours, 45 minutes, 3 secondsbalance to cover the budgeted deficit not the actual deficit but the budgeted deficit
2:45:132 hours, 45 minutes, 13 secondsand um then you get into a situation where you have to be able to do that and meet those needs.
2:45:232 hours, 45 minutes, 23 secondsUh, one thing that I looked at, and I'm just going to throw this out there and then let you all go. Three years ago, we were at, I think, 25.15%
2:45:342 hours, 45 minutes, 34 secondsof property tax.
2:45:372 hours, 45 minutes, 37 secondsOkay. The property tax that was budgeted and collected for the county as a whole, 25.15%
2:45:452 hours, 45 minutes, 45 secondsI think is what uh we were budgeted at.
2:45:492 hours, 45 minutes, 49 secondsRight now we're at 19 something. I can't remember the exact amount, but it's 19
2:45:562 hours, 45 minutes, 56 secondssome% of of all the property tax. If we went back to that 25 requesting that
2:46:062 hours, 46 minutes, 6 secondsum that is basically a total of 13 cents under the current evaluation
2:46:152 hours, 46 minutes, 15 secondsthat's 13 additional cents. Um, let me bring up that's not the sheet that I want to
2:46:232 hours, 46 minutes, 23 secondsbring up. So, bear with me just a second.
2:46:492 hours, 46 minutes, 49 secondsSorry.
2:46:512 hours, 46 minutes, 51 secondsShould have had this already in this part. Oh, I know why it's in the wrong part.
2:47:292 hours, 47 minutes, 29 secondsPlease don't look at this messy sheet,
2:47:312 hours, 47 minutes, 31 secondsbut this is what um basically if we went to 13 cents,
2:47:402 hours, 47 minutes, 40 secondsrequested 13 cents, that would be a $1.1 million increase
2:47:482 hours, 47 minutes, 48 secondsto u property tax revenues force. U would that take care of all the deficit?
2:47:562 hours, 47 minutes, 56 secondsNo. But it would slow the deficit by make it manageable by one. It would make it manageable for more years.
2:48:042 hours, 48 minutes, 4 secondsYeah.
2:48:052 hours, 48 minutes, 5 secondsAnd Yeah. So that was basically going from 33.45 45 to uh 46.36.
2:48:162 hours, 48 minutes, 16 secondsUm so it was 19.55%. When we go to 25.15%
2:48:242 hours, 48 minutes, 24 secondsthat would be those roughly 13 cents.
2:48:282 hours, 48 minutes, 28 secondsAnd so is there reasoning for for going down because the sales tax has been sales tax.
2:48:352 hours, 48 minutes, 35 secondsThat's what they say. I talked to a couple commissioners and they they they say well you get half the sales tax.
2:48:402 hours, 48 minutes, 40 secondsThat's the first thing they'll say. And so and and they said we've had substantial increase there. Just just what that's what they're thinking.
2:48:482 hours, 48 minutes, 48 secondsSo they they don't really understand either. No.
2:48:512 hours, 48 minutes, 51 secondsWell, they're if you go to those presentations and I've been to them, you know, we have as board members and you and you get in line and you see all
2:48:592 hours, 48 minutes, 59 secondsthese different departments going up there pleading their case.
2:49:042 hours, 49 minutes, 4 secondsThey got a lot of pressure on them in a lot of places, you know, and you just got to you got to get in there and make your case, I guess. you know,
2:49:102 hours, 49 minutes, 10 secondsnow keep in mind right now all we've talked about is the operating side of the budget. We haven't talked about the capital side, right?
2:49:172 hours, 49 minutes, 17 secondsAnd I know there's some discussions or possibility that on some of these capitals we could ask
2:49:252 hours, 49 minutes, 25 secondsthe county to pick up that doesn't increase maintenance of effort. They're in theory giving us dollars without
2:49:332 hours, 49 minutes, 33 secondsincreasing maintenance effort, but that still doesn't address the debt. And I guess they've done that, you know, some things,
2:49:402 hours, 49 minutes, 40 secondsbut you know, you look at this list, we only got a few numbers on there. We don't know what the rest of them are.
2:49:462 hours, 49 minutes, 46 secondsCorrect. And that's because Yeah. We're just in that. So, it's really you kind
2:49:532 hours, 49 minutes, 53 secondsof ask Well, we can talk about that separately here in a minute, but as far as where you want to get on,
2:50:002 hours, 50 minuteswe just need that filled in by We just need that filled in by Monday, don't we?
2:50:042 hours, 50 minutes, 4 secondsWell, we got to ethn But none of this is in the budget. The capital projects, right?
2:50:112 hours, 50 minutes, 11 secondsCapital projects are not in the budget.
2:50:132 hours, 50 minutes, 13 secondsWe purely seem like we've been budgeting since I've been here approximately a million dollars a year. Budget approximately,
2:50:202 hours, 50 minutes, 20 secondsbut that's about what it's a half to are the tennis courts.
2:50:252 hours, 50 minutes, 25 secondsYeah. Now, the full replacements of the tennis courts, full resurfacing quotes we got were $300,000 a piece. That's
2:50:342 hours, 50 minutes, 34 secondsfilling cracks, filling, leveling out everything. But we also have things that are less than that. Um,
2:50:442 hours, 50 minutes, 44 secondsso that's why you see a disparity in numbers, but those tennis courts have to be dealt with on both ends from the
2:50:512 hours, 50 minutes, 51 secondsplaying surfaces that they're playing on and uh the quality of it and um the cracks that are there.
2:51:012 hours, 51 minutes, 1 secondSo that would be a definite in relation to those things. um
2:51:092 hours, 51 minutes, 9 secondsuh the floor at East Hickman High School. We'll have to decide at some point whether we're doing a full
2:51:162 hours, 51 minutes, 16 secondsreplacement or partial repair and we haven't done that yet.
2:51:212 hours, 51 minutes, 21 secondsStill any baseball field, football field drains, uh school um I've been out there and looked at that. We've got elevation
2:51:292 hours, 51 minutes, 29 secondscosts and that Yeah, you and I talked about that.
2:51:322 hours, 51 minutes, 32 secondsAnd uh the way that's set up, water's going to go from top to bottom. That's just the way it works. And the softball field is draining into the baseball
2:51:402 hours, 51 minutes, 40 secondsfield which is draining into the football field. There's no drain. There is drain way down midfield, but the water's not getting there. It's going
2:51:492 hours, 51 minutes, 49 secondsunder. So, I think that's something that we could maintenance people could do. I mean, there's nothing to do the ditch pipes or contracted loc.
2:52:012 hours, 52 minutes, 1 secondIt can be it needs to be fixed cuz they have I went out there and there was water running on my shoes and I was there getting ready to play ball and he
2:52:092 hours, 52 minutes, 9 secondssaid I hope it dries up for them. We got a game in a week and it finally did.
2:52:142 hours, 52 minutes, 14 secondsThat was the one at the middle. I went out there after you had said something about to look at and it's got that rise in that one place out there in that keeps it from draining through.
2:52:252 hours, 52 minutes, 25 secondsAnd so you know if you you can't play on the field then so
2:52:322 hours, 52 minutes, 32 secondsbut I don't know about the bleachers I don't know anything about the bathroom flooring at each the bleachers was to put rails up at the
2:52:392 hours, 52 minutes, 39 secondsthat come up a couple years ago that was put rails at the high now the on this one is that different
2:52:472 hours, 52 minutes, 47 secondsup replacement yeah they put them up first year yeah we put the rails up at basketball now football field. Yeah.
2:52:582 hours, 52 minutes, 58 secondsBut on this and this has been a question several time for several years is when
2:53:052 hours, 53 minutes, 5 secondsdo we need to replace the bleachers at the high school football? No, basketball. Basketball.
2:53:132 hours, 53 minutes, 13 secondsThey've been replaced once since they been put up. Haven't Well, they had in the 30 years I've been there, but
2:53:202 hours, 53 minutes, 20 secondsyeah, because I was on board when I did it. I remember we did it because they got so bad that they wouldn't go.
2:53:262 hours, 53 minutes, 26 secondsAnd I'm not saying I'm not saying they need replacement.
2:53:292 hours, 53 minutes, 29 secondsThey did a topping on them and they did all the mechanisms that came out.
2:53:352 hours, 53 minutes, 35 secondsI know there's issues with them that scratches and stuff. Um, of course that's another significant
2:53:442 hours, 53 minutes, 44 secondsamount of dollars um that that you run into. Not that this has to happen now, but Hickman County
2:53:522 hours, 53 minutes, 52 secondsHigh School's four has it doesn't have any more sands left. Is that right? I think that's right.
2:53:582 hours, 53 minutes, 58 secondsI think that's right. We did.
2:54:022 hours, 54 minutes, 2 secondsSo that in the next few years will have to be addressed also. Yeah.
2:54:062 hours, 54 minutes, 6 secondsAnd so so there's a lot of stuff to do. We discover and we didn't put any paving in
2:54:122 hours, 54 minutes, 12 secondsanywhere this year on this cuz it'd be bad this time the size it is,
2:54:182 hours, 54 minutes, 18 secondsyou know, goes along with old. So a few years there we got pretty good price doing some paving patching but not this year. Yeah.
2:54:332 hours, 54 minutes, 33 secondsAnd I think at this point we need to start communicating with our constituents the reality of the situation, communicating with our
2:54:402 hours, 54 minutes, 40 secondscommissioners. I mean, I've already been on the phone with quite a half commissioner this week. Tell them the reality of the situation. Like the whole
2:54:482 hours, 54 minutes, 48 secondssaying is it doesn't matter how we got here, but we're here. This is the situation we're in.
2:54:522 hours, 54 minutes, 52 secondsThat's exactly right. And so we we need to start spreading the word that hey something's going to happen positive or negative in the next few years.
2:55:002 hours, 55 minutesAbsolutely.
2:55:032 hours, 55 minutes, 3 secondsAny more questions? You're going to have some for us Monday night. So in the in the Monday night budget,
2:55:072 hours, 55 minutes, 7 secondsyou want me to do Do you want the 13 I mean you guys have the ability to vote
2:55:132 hours, 55 minutes, 13 secondson some things tonight that tell me and these two what we need to do.
2:55:222 hours, 55 minutes, 22 secondssee anything personally that court calls a vote for anything other than just we need something.
2:55:292 hours, 55 minutes, 29 secondsI think he's asking does he want to does he want us to put in there do we want to ask the commission for the 13th
2:55:382 hours, 55 minutes, 38 secondsso we have to vote I think it's a budget item yeah we don't have to
2:55:462 hours, 55 minutes, 46 secondsyou make a recommendation then we put it in there that if we do it for contract money and I will vote for it then
2:55:552 hours, 55 minutes, 55 secondsI'm asked we're still working on it we asked And all I can do is send us back to the house.
2:56:012 hours, 56 minutes, 1 secondWhat What are y'all wanting from You said y'all wanting you want us to for something for you know what to do. You said the way you talk about the 13th.
2:56:102 hours, 56 minutes, 10 secondsYeah. Yeah. How much how much are you going to want to ask for moneywise, right?
2:56:192 hours, 56 minutes, 19 secondsAnd and I think that's good. I mean we you can you have concrete. Well, it was this it was it was 19. It's now 19. So
2:56:272 hours, 56 minutes, 27 secondsall we're asking for is what we were what we're in back to 25%. And that equivalent is equivalent to 13 13 cents.
2:56:362 hours, 56 minutes, 36 seconds13 cents.
2:56:392 hours, 56 minutes, 39 secondsWe can put that in the vote Monday night if you want to. Yeah.
2:56:432 hours, 56 minutes, 43 secondsWell, we'll prepare the document. The document that you will vote on will not look like the worksheets that we had. If
2:56:512 hours, 56 minutes, 51 secondsyou remember the the county budget is a certain spreadsheet and it only shows Well, I like I like what you did. Did
2:57:002 hours, 57 minutesyou do this last year? The the way it reads these sheet stuff?
2:57:032 hours, 57 minutes, 3 secondsYeah, we bypassed it last year. We had done it the year before and I mean this seemed to use better. It see
2:57:102 hours, 57 minutes, 10 secondsmore user friendly. I didn't mean to catch it, but it seemed more user friendly.
2:57:142 hours, 57 minutes, 14 secondsI actually meant to have more information in them, but I did not. And again, I hope I have some wrong numbers
2:57:202 hours, 57 minutes, 20 secondsin there. We're She knows that I've been looking, looking, looking, and reooking
2:57:282 hours, 57 minutes, 28 secondsand reooking and I'll continue through Monday night and even through Thursday night to look and reook. He's done a great job. Um,
2:57:372 hours, 57 minutes, 37 secondsyou can't Sorry. Well, no, that's that's the job.
2:57:412 hours, 57 minutes, 41 secondsBut I I'm I'm not trying to that that's the job, but it's I can also go down rabbit holes too
2:57:502 hours, 57 minutes, 50 secondslong, but that's why I continue to do uh one because I don't want to be wrong.
2:57:562 hours, 57 minutes, 56 secondsUm, but there's always the possibility you got small things in there. The possibility, and I don't think you guys
2:58:052 hours, 58 minutes, 5 secondscan make a decision on it, but the possibility of having to have another meeting
2:58:112 hours, 58 minutes, 11 secondsafter the meeting on the 7th, I think you guys.
2:58:182 hours, 58 minutes, 18 secondsSo if it comes back, what we approved Monday night, if it comes back on the 7th,
2:58:262 hours, 58 minutes, 26 secondsthey kick it back, we have to meet again.
2:58:282 hours, 58 minutes, 28 secondsAnd Bristol would like to have the information if possible, what we
2:58:372 hours, 58 minutes, 37 secondswould send back to where it can be put in the paper on that following Monday so they can put the whole budget in the paper.
2:58:472 hours, 58 minutes, 47 secondsum that so the timeline on how quick the turnaround that can be is limited. Now
2:58:562 hours, 58 minutes, 56 secondsI'm not saying you have to go by that but it is a limited turn around time on that. So I'm just throwing that out there for you.
2:59:072 hours, 59 minutes, 7 secondsDr. Anderson has something Mr. Hops.
2:59:092 hours, 59 minutes, 9 secondsThis is an action item for tonight. So um it's for the fiscal year 27 budget.
2:59:152 hours, 59 minutes, 15 secondsYeah. So, we'll either need to table it for to Monday night or somebody. We need a motion for something for that. Table it for Monday night.
2:59:242 hours, 59 minutes, 24 secondsGo ahead. I'll make Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. You do it.
2:59:282 hours, 59 minutes, 28 secondsI'll make a motion we table the uh school year 7 school budget to Monday night the be the 4th. May the 4th.
2:59:382 hours, 59 minutes, 38 secondsI'll second. Got a second. All in favor say I. I.
2:59:442 hours, 59 minutes, 44 secondsAny other business? If not, need a motion.
2:59:472 hours, 59 minutes, 47 secondsMake a motion we journ.j have a second favor.