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Hickman County Budget Committee 05/07/2026
May 7, 2026
7:217 minutes, 21 secondsSorry, I didn't call you back.
7:397 minutes, 39 seconds[clears throat]
7:467 minutes, 46 secondsSo pressure was on. Yes sir. Yeah. Mics are hot.
8:048 minutes, 4 secondsAll right.
8:068 minutes, 6 secondsJust check that.
8:288 minutes, 28 seconds[clears throat]
8:318 minutes, 31 secondsWatch out.
8:558 minutes, 55 secondsThat's why
9:049 minutes, 4 secondsthe whole
9:129 minutes, 12 seconds[clears throat]
9:159 minutes, 15 secondsJesus Smartest person.
9:359 minutes, 35 secondsWe'll call the uh budget meeting to order. Uh Candy, if you would call here
9:439 minutes, 43 secondshere. Clay Chester here. Clark here. Todd Collins.
9:489 minutes, 48 secondsSteve Geian here.
9:509 minutes, 50 secondsJim Har here.
9:519 minutes, 51 secondsDusty Jordan here.
9:529 minutes, 52 secondsRon Mayberry here. Ricky Murray. Keith Nash.
9:579 minutes, 57 secondsDevin Picker here. Ron Hucket. Wayne Thomasson.
10:0610 minutes, 6 secondsGot nine present, five absent.
10:0810 minutes, 8 secondsNine present, five absent. We got enough for a quorum. Uh first up is the approval of the agenda. You all should have received a copy of that. I got a
10:1710 minutes, 17 secondsmotion by Commissioner Calakott, second by Commissioner Mayberry. Any discussion?
10:2210 minutes, 22 secondsAll in favor say I. I oppose. Eyes have it. First up is public comment period.
10:3010 minutes, 30 secondsIs there anybody? There is. All right. Keith and Post.
10:3610 minutes, 36 secondsAnd just to be sure, you've got a copy of the agenda and what's on what your comments are pertaining to. Okay,
10:4410 minutes, 44 secondsperfect. So, I mainly talk about school budget. Just want you to know I don't enjoy being up here. Certainly don't enjoy being the only one up here. Um,
10:5210 minutes, 52 seconds[clears throat]
10:5310 minutes, 53 secondsa small county like this school and and the county very much a family business.
10:5810 minutes, 58 secondsI won't call it a business, a family system. Um, a lot of people are close,
11:0211 minutes, 2 secondshave relationships. Some of y'all work for the schools and things like that.
11:0611 minutes, 6 secondsUm, all in all, when I I've done a lot of analysis of the budget, looked at it since 2018, done my best to get the
11:1311 minutes, 13 secondsnumbers right, adjusted everything for inflation, looked at per capita for students, and here's basically some some
11:2011 minutes, 20 secondsthings that I'm seeing. Um, I'm seeing a lot of assistance. I don't know why there are so many assistants in the
11:2711 minutes, 27 secondsschool systems. I would like to know more about that. I haven't got any answers for that. When you calculate teacherto student ratios, I think we're
11:3511 minutes, 35 secondsrunning about average for what is in Tennessee, but there are systems that have more students. I grew up in uh the
11:4211 minutes, 42 secondsschool system and we had a lot of kids in our classes and didn't have any assistance ever. I don't remember assistance being there. Uh so I
11:5011 minutes, 50 secondsencourage you to look at the amount of money that's being spent on assistance.
11:5411 minutes, 54 secondsUm and cut me off at 3 minutes if I if I don't I won't go [clears throat] over.
11:5911 minutes, 59 secondsUm so there's a lot of money that could be saved there. Uh, health services has exploded. Uh, that that has just gone
12:0612 minutes, 6 secondscrazy. I don't know if that's the nurses that were hired during COVID. Uh, we've got a bunch of nurses in the county who used to have a lot less. I don't know
12:1412 minutes, 14 secondsthat we need that money. I don't want to necessarily see people laid off, but it's a lot of money. And the question is, do we really need that? Um, special
12:2312 minutes, 23 secondseducation. I mean, of course, we want to care for the the the weakest among us,
12:2912 minutes, 29 secondsbut what has happened in the special education budget? It has massively increased uh with and I did did a lot of
12:3712 minutes, 37 secondspeople with these needs move into the county or are we just categorizing people in these uh in these ways? And that goes to the whole incentives drives
12:4512 minutes, 45 secondsoutcome. I think there's money available for certain things. is coding people with special needs [clears throat] and like this because we get more money when
12:5312 minutes, 53 secondspeople are coded that way. Technology costs, uh, Chromebooks,
12:5912 minutes, 59 secondsmy feeling there is we could throw them out. I don't know that they really have a great outcome. They cost a lot of money to maintain. I think we got that
13:0713 minutes, 7 secondsduring COVID with CO money maybe. I could be wrong.
13:1113 minutes, 11 secondsUm, capital expenditures are not on this budget. Um, we have had an average of $700,000 a year in capital expenditures
13:2013 minutes, 20 secondsand that doesn't include whatever was used from from CO money and other grants and there's nothing left this year.
13:2613 minutes, 26 secondsMeaning somebody's going to have to come up and they have $700,000 worth of stuff identified already. So, you know,
13:3313 minutes, 33 seconds[clears throat] that's not there because we don't want the maintenance of effort to increase. Another thing, I don't think we should increase maintenance of effort when our student population is
13:4213 minutes, 42 secondsfalling. And uh before I run out of time, one of the big things uh I think they're going to probably show you that we're not spending as much as
13:5113 minutes, 51 seconds[clears throat] a county as a percentage in comparison to other counties in in Tennessee. I went through that data la last night, looked for counties with
13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsroughly $39 million in uh budget. And what you find is like other counties,
14:0514 minutes, 5 secondsthey may have like $7 million local sales tax auction coming in. They've got industry, they've got business, they've
14:1214 minutes, 12 secondsgot other forms of funding that are draw allowing them to pay a much larger percentage. Uh so you really can't trust
14:2014 minutes, 20 secondsthat data unless you go look at a county. Show me a county that you think we should be like and then I go look pull up the budget and that tells a
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsdifferent story. So we need to be able to look at that and we got to question uh that argument. Um I've got more to say but I think that's enough. Uh, I
14:3714 minutes, 37 secondsappreciate all in all the budget isn't terrible. I think the bad thing about it is they're going to be back if they
14:4414 minutes, 44 secondsdon't get the personnel issue worked out. So, they free up that money so that they can do great things with the capital and uh it's, you know, all in all, it's it's it's a it's a small ask.
14:5614 minutes, 56 seconds[clears throat]
14:5714 minutes, 57 secondsUh, maybe we can meet him halfway. So, that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Uh,
15:0215 minutes, 2 secondshe's Ethan [clears throat] is the only one to sign up for public comment. Uh,
15:0615 minutes, 6 secondsnext up on the agenda is 32nd Judicial Child Advocacy and Morgan Bowen. Come on up.
15:2015 minutes, 20 secondsGood evening everyone. Uh, they used to talk back to me. [laughter]
15:2815 minutes, 28 secondsI'm Henderman. I'm your elected DA for Higman Lewis in Perry County. And if you want to, you can stand.
15:3415 minutes, 34 secondsI would be glad to. that would make things much more comfortable,
15:3715 minutes, 37 secondsa little bit more comfortable on this side.
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsUh I was here last year with a uh new executive director of the uh 32nd Judicial District Child Advocacy Center
15:4915 minutes, 49 secondsthat we started uh last January uh due to the departure of the Davis House Child Advocacy Center and was here with
15:5715 minutes, 57 secondsDestiny Runs last year requesting uh funding from the county government to help with operational expenses and uh salary
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondsuh salary help with additional positions that would be needed. We started this with with two people uh with a with a
16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsperson who was by default became the uh executive director in Destiny Renions and also uh the current forensic
16:2116 minutes, 21 secondsinterviewer that we had at the time agreed to stay on. Um we have been able
16:2816 minutes, 28 secondsto provide services to the uh victims and their families of these child sex abuse cases and physical abuse cases
16:3616 minutes, 36 secondswhich would even include uh drug exposed children uh without any interruption uh
16:4316 minutes, 43 secondsthanks to this new CAC uh being created thanks to the help from uh county government uh in supporting us on that.
16:5016 minutes, 50 secondsLewis County and Perry County have also uh chipped in and helping out a great deal. And uh I just wanted to one be
17:0017 minuteshere to reiterate how important it is for our judicial district to have a child advocac advocacy center and also introduce all of you to the new
17:0817 minutes, 8 secondsexecutive director. This is Morgan Bowen uh who came on board the there end of February.
17:1417 minutes, 14 secondsYes. that uh after the departure of uh Destiny and uh Morgan has uh uh taken
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsthe taken the reigns and has has got us a vision going forward that is going to provide more services uh to the victims
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsand their families uh on these cases and will that will expand the u number of
17:3617 minutes, 36 secondsemployees also that u will have jobs here in in Hickman County and in Lewis County and Perry County um Every
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsjudicial district has a child advocacy center. It's something that we have to have and we can't rely solely on uh the
17:5117 minutes, 51 secondsthe bit of money that comes in through uh the department of children's services. Uh it has to be a mixture of the state money help with county
17:5917 minutes, 59 secondsgovernment and also private donations to make it a really a viable uh agency that that helps our our people in these three counties. Uh, one of the biggest uh,
18:0918 minutes, 9 secondsbest examples I can give of how effective the child advocacy center is and how it helps me in prosecuting these cases is they're the only type of
18:1818 minutes, 18 secondsorganization that can conduct what's known as a forensic interview. And so after a child makes some disclosure of
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsabuse uh that has happened to them uh they uh law enforcement or the department of children services will
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondstake minimal information from that child uh determine that something may have happened and then refer it to the child
18:4018 minutes, 40 secondsadvocacy center who is the only type of organization that can employ a forensic interviewer. Uh Morgan uh being a former
18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsforensic interviewer had to meet a long list of uh statutory qualifications and have very particular credentials on
18:5718 minutes, 57 secondsbeing able to conduct those types of interviews. There aren't very many forensic interviewers in the entire state. Uh she's she's one of them, but now our director of our of our CAC. Um,
19:0719 minutes, 7 secondsbut these are video recorded interviews that when done properly, when done by a child advocacy center, when done by someone who has the proper
19:1419 minutes, 14 secondsqualifications, can be admitted as the child's testimony and in a jury trial.
19:1919 minutes, 19 secondsUh, the child doesn't have to get up on a witness stand and tell 12 people about the most horrific thing that's ever
19:2619 minutes, 26 secondshappened to them that that any of us could imagine. Uh, that video, if it meets the requirements, can be played.
19:3319 minutes, 33 secondsthe child does still have to be there to for cross-examination purposes, but it completely eliminates that trauma of
19:4119 minutes, 41 secondshaving to uh that portion of going through a jury trial. And so that's why we need these cases. You can imagine if I tried to put a six-year-old on the
19:4919 minutes, 49 secondsstand and uh how hard it would be to get them to tell me orally, you know, about their stepfather raping them or or or or
19:5819 minutes, 58 secondssomething along along those lines. But if we've got a forensic interview, uh,
20:0220 minutes, 2 secondswe play that video which is done in a controlled environment, recorded by the CAC, uh, preserved, and then the jury
20:1020 minutes, 10 secondscan see that disclosure made typically soon after the, uh, the event happens.
20:1720 minutes, 17 secondsUm, we recently had a case last year where the defendant was indicted and
20:2420 minutes, 24 secondsagreed to go to prison for 40 years, the rest of his life. He was 62 years old at the time that he pleaded guilty. Um, no
20:3320 minutes, 33 secondstrial, no uh did did not have to put the the victim through that. And it was because of the forensic interview that
20:4220 minutes, 42 secondsgot us to that point. That forensic interview that was made by that child was so detailed and had in the
20:4820 minutes, 48 secondsdescription of uh the offender's home of where it happened, what he was wearing,
20:5320 minutes, 53 secondsthe pictures he had taken of her, where he had uh where he had put the pictures in his house in a in a in a gun safe,
20:5920 minutes, 59 secondsthe type of camera that he had used, all this had happened several years before.
21:0321 minutes, 3 secondsUm, but it was so detailed and it was 2 and 1/2 hours long. And uh because of that, the law enforcement was able to get a search warrant for for his house.
21:1221 minutes, 12 secondsAnd she also described some some features on him uh that were later corroborated after his body was was
21:2021 minutes, 20 secondssearched uh to put it politely. Uh but law enforcement was able to get a search warrant just based on that forensic
21:2721 minutes, 27 secondsinterview the level of detail go into his house recovered those camera cards that he had kept for years that were in
21:3421 minutes, 34 secondsthere. We had uh data extractions done on those uh SD cards for digital cameras and sure enough there were hundreds of
21:4321 minutes, 43 secondspictures of her that he had taken of her. Nude had taken uh pictures of of him uh performing sexual acts on her and
21:5221 minutes, 52 secondseverything. And we were able to put that in front of him and say this is what a juryy's going to see that if you want to take this to if you want to take this to
21:5821 minutes, 58 secondstrial. And none of that would have ever we would have ever had any of that if not for that forensic interview done by
22:0522 minutes, 5 secondsthe child advocacy center. Um there would have been no way of of having that type of credible information
22:1322 minutes, 13 secondsto put in a search warrant that would have got us into his house and found all of that uh all that evidence to
22:2022 minutes, 20 seconds[clears throat]
22:2022 minutes, 20 secondsuse against him and get him to uh agree to that 40-year prison sentence. So,
22:2522 minutes, 25 secondsthat's one of the best examples I could give everyone of of why a child advocacy center is so important, why these forensic interviews are so important.
22:3322 minutes, 33 secondsUm, I'm going to hand it off to uh Director Bowen at this point. If any of you have any questions for me, I'll be glad to glad to answer them. I'm sorry
22:4222 minutes, 42 secondsfor the graphic nature of the of the subject matter, but uh this is real. We we deal with these cases every day in Hickman County, in Lewis County, in
22:5022 minutes, 50 secondsPerry County, and it is a uh it's a need that has to be has to be filled and and served um for the for the kids and their
22:5822 minutes, 58 secondsfamilies in in the community. So, I'll let uh Director Bowen tell you a little bit more about the specific request. I just wanted to be here to let you all know how important it is. Thank you.
23:0723 minutes, 7 secondsThank you, Hans. Hi, guys. Again, my name is Morgan Bowen. I'm the executive director of the 32nd Judicial District
23:1423 minutes, 14 secondsChild Advocacy Center. Last year when our organization presented to you guys,
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondswe asked for $30,000 and that was for to be put towards salaries for the forensic
23:2623 minutes, 26 secondsinterview position as well as the executive director's position. Since last year, we have stabilized both of
23:3523 minutes, 35 secondsthose positions as well as the family advocate position. And we have funding
23:4123 minutes, 41 secondsagain for fiscal year 26 to 27. So once this grant ends on June 30th, we're
23:4923 minutes, 49 secondsalready set up for our family advocate to be funded for another year.
23:5423 minutes, 54 secondsThis year we are asking for $30,000 again. And the reason for that is we
24:0224 minutes, 2 secondswould like to reimplement therapy services back into the 32nd judicial district. Um I know that with the
24:1124 minutes, 11 secondsdeparture of the Davis House a year, two years ago, those services left these
24:1824 minutes, 18 secondscommunities. It is our plan to implement therapy back into the communities by the end of this year. We currently have
24:2624 minutes, 26 secondsfunding for that and we are hoping to use community funding to stabilize that.
24:3524 minutes, 35 secondsIf we are unable to find grant funding,
24:3824 minutes, 38 secondswe will or I'm sorry, if we are able to find additional grant funding for the therapy position, we would then use the
24:4724 minutes, 47 secondscommunity funding to go towards a civic coordinator. You guys might ask what cippet coordinator even means in the
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsstate of Tennessee. CIP is the child protective investigative team. That team
25:0125 minutes, 1 secondis the child advocacy center, the district attorney's office, the department of children's services, law
25:0925 minutes, 9 secondsenforcement, and then sometimes TBI or FBI if they are involved in the case.
25:1425 minutes, 14 secondsWhat that team does is they meet monthly and we review all of the cases, the interviews, the referrals that have come
25:2225 minutes, 22 secondsthrough and then we refer for prosecution and then DCS will decide to substantiate or not substantiate.
25:3025 minutes, 30 secondsCurrently in our organization, the forensic interviewer handles that job responsibility.
25:3825 minutes, 38 secondsWith the growth and with three communities, we would like to designate a sole position to civic coordination along with prevention and outreach.
25:4925 minutes, 49 seconds[clears throat]
25:5025 minutes, 50 secondsThese two new positions would allow our organization to grow, but also provide more services to the communities where these children are being victimized.
26:0426 minutes, 4 secondsLet's see. Um, it would also move us closer to national accreditation and once our center is accreditated that
26:1226 minutes, 12 secondsopens up more pathways for funding. As Hans mentioned earlier, an organization like ours cannot depend solely on grants
26:2126 minutes, 21 secondsor community funding. So, you have to find a healthy balance. Um, let's see.
26:2926 minutes, 29 secondsfor sustainability purposes. Um, we have looked into the opioid abatement grant.
26:3526 minutes, 35 secondsWe were unable to apply this year because our organization has not been open for 24 consecutive months at the time of the um application process. So,
26:4826 minutes, 48 secondswe are looking into that for the next grant cycle. We are also hoping to reapply for the therapy position to
26:5726 minutes, 57 secondssustain that so that hopefully we can use community money for the other positions.
27:0427 minutes, 4 secondsWe also have plans to get involved with United Way of Hickman County. Hickman County is the only county in the 32nd that is covered by United Way.
27:1627 minutes, 16 secondsAnd then also we plan to utilize VOCA for the family advocate as well as the department of children's services which
27:2427 minutes, 24 secondsstabilizes the executive director and the forensic interviewer. In your packets,
27:3227 minutes, 32 secondsI have created statistical data for the cases and referrals that have
27:4127 minutes, 41 secondsbeen seen by the 32nd since January 1st of 2025 when we opened our doors. You
27:4827 minutes, 48 secondswill see um that the numbers for this year are from July 1st of 2025 until yesterday.
27:5927 minutes, 59 secondsthose numbers have grown as opposed to last year's numbers. That can just be attributed to the fiscal
28:0828 minutes, 8 secondsum the fiscal grant cycles. Um not grant cycles, the fiscal cycles. I apologize. And the fact
28:1728 minutes, 17 secondsthat we are now having an influx in cases as opposed to last year.
28:2828 minutes, 28 secondsDo you guys have any please ask me any questions.
28:3128 minutes, 31 secondsUh [clears throat] so obviously uh you know we typically have a period for nonprofit and this is where we would typically categorize as this but um I
28:4128 minutes, 41 secondsknow with some changes we we kind of got got in a little late in the game but obviously this is near and dear to
28:4828 minutes, 48 secondseverybody that just heard what Mr. Hans you know just said. So um uh you know we we we have a decision. There's 30k.
28:5728 minutes, 57 secondsThat's the request. So, u be open for any questions or uh any motions, that sort of thing.
29:0529 minutes, 5 secondsI'll make a motion to approve 30,000. Got a motion by Commissioner Barnhill,
29:1029 minutes, 10 secondssecond by Commissioner Picker, uh to grant 30K for the uh 32nd Judicial Child Advocacy Center. Any discussion?
29:1929 minutes, 19 seconds[clears throat]
29:2129 minutes, 21 secondsMr. K, what are the other counties doing?
29:2329 minutes, 23 secondsWhat's their what's been their contribution period?
29:2929 minutes, 29 secondsYou want to handle that? But yeah,
29:3029 minutes, 30 secondslast year they uh Lewis County uh the request was I believe 15. Uh they had
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondssome lastm minute budget issues uh concerning the sheriff's department. I think they ended up giving 10. Uh
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondsfinally in uh Perry County last year, I think around September, they uh gave a $15 uh $15,000
29:5429 minutes, 54 secondsuh uh contribution uh to assist and uh those at the at the time those um those
30:0230 minutes, 2 secondsrequests were based on population and uh I have already written the [clears throat] request for Lewis County
30:1030 minutes, 10 secondsand I have asked for 15 from them and I planned it at the same county. Any other discussion?
30:2230 minutes, 22 secondsAnd just procedurally, Crystal, uh,
30:2530 minutes, 25 secondssince we kind of already approved the nonprofit, do we need to like roll that back in or is it okay to just make the
30:3230 minutes, 32 secondsmotion and for us to be able to I think we could, but to input it, we'll need to open like 101 back up to put all that.
30:4030 minutes, 40 secondsAll right. Do we need to do that first as a motion?
30:4530 minutes, 45 secondsI I think that you could approve it and then we can go back because there's some other things that we need to commission. Where is it? What's the line?
30:5330 minutes, 53 secondsUh 58900 360 way too fast.
30:5830 minutes, 58 secondsAnd it it should be about 23,000 I think that's in there now.
31:1331 minutes, 13 secondsWhat page is that on? 18. 18.
31:2731 minutes, 27 secondsYeah. Page 18. That's the 23,000 that's so that would change to 30K.
31:3431 minutes, 34 secondsWell, it would be changing to 53. 53. Okay. Okay. Just Okay.
31:4831 minutes, 48 secondsChange what now?
31:4931 minutes, 49 secondsIt would be 53. The 23 that's in there is for the other nonprofits that you've already Yeah. Okay. Okay. Sorry.
31:5931 minutes, 59 secondsAre you on the newest one?
32:0232 minutes, 2 seconds[clears throat]
32:0932 minutes, 9 seconds58,900 and then it's uh 316.
32:1732 minutes, 17 secondsAny other discussion on it? If not, roll call vote. Matthew Barnhill. Yes.
32:2532 minutes, 25 secondsCL. Yes. Clay Chester. Yes. Danny Clark. Yes. Todd Collins. Yes. Steve Gian. Yes. Jim Herren.
32:3332 minutes, 33 secondsYes. Dusty Jordan. Yes. Ron. Yeah. Yes. [clears throat] Ricky Murray. Yes. Deon Piger. Yes. Wayne Thomasson.
32:4132 minutes, 41 secondsYes. 12. Yes. Two. 12. Yes. Two. The motion carries.
32:4832 minutes, 48 secondsI appreciate what you had to. Thank you everyone. Thank you very much. Very thankful for appreciate y'all. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
32:5732 minutes, 57 secondsCrystal, would it um behoove us to go ahead and reapprove 101 or um there there's a few other changes
33:0533 minutes, 5 secondsthat we probably need to address a little bit later on. If somebody could do it all at once, it would be great.
33:1033 minutes, 10 secondsOkay. All right. Let's go ahead and get into the school. All right. Next up is the school.
33:2533 minutes, 25 seconds141. You want to go 141 first? Yes. Okay.
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondsGood afternoon. I so appreciate these tissues being here in case there is a need for tears tonight. Uh my name is Marcy Tidwell. I am the incoming
33:3733 minutes, 37 secondsdirector of schools in Hitman County. Um our school board was uh nice enough to let me come on uh starting March 1st uh
33:4633 minutes, 46 secondsexcuse me, April 1st and I officially take over um June 1st. I'm beginning to think this was a cruel joke for me to
33:5433 minutes, 54 secondscome on to work on this budget, but I am actually very thankful that I'm getting to work on the budget that will be my budget for next school year. So, thank
34:0334 minutes, 3 secondsyou for letting me present it to you tonight. Um, I want to start by talking to you about um the state of our school district. I want to talk to you about
34:1134 minutes, 11 secondsthe positives and some of the challenges that we're facing right now. I'm going to try to make sure I'm looking at everyone and I apologize that I'm kind
34:1834 minutes, 18 secondsof my back is turned to some of you. Um over this most recent past year we have really seen a lot of growth in our
34:2734 minutes, 27 secondsschool system. We are on a trajectory of success in terms of our academics. Um we are growing in areas specifically the
34:3634 minutes, 36 secondsareas of math and social studies. We're growing in all areas actually [clears throat] but most significantly in math and social studies. Um, several
34:4434 minutes, 44 secondsof our schools went from a D-rating to a B- rating, which is is pretty good because those those are grades uh that are A, B, C, D, or F. So, we were um
34:5334 minutes, 53 secondsespecially proud of those schools moving up in grade. Um, we had multiple schools that were level five in TBOS growth. Um,
35:0135 minutes, 1 secondwhich is just a prediction of where students start and where they end that the end of the year. Level five is the highest growth you can get. Um, we had one school that was a reward school.
35:1235 minutes, 12 secondsThat was Hickin County High School and that was the first time in that school's history that they were uh considered a reward school. So, we're also very proud
35:2035 minutes, 20 secondsof that. Uh, we're proud of our dual enrollment program. In currently in Hickman County, students can um graduate
35:2835 minutes, 28 secondshigh school with a full year of college under their belt at the either free or very low tuition to them. and um and
35:3535 minutes, 35 secondsthat's just a um you know something to be proud of in terms of what we're able to offer our students. We're also very
35:4235 minutes, 42 secondsproud of our CTE program. We have uh about 15 CTE programs and that's that's
35:4935 minutes, 49 secondspretty um that's pretty remarkable across the state. Not very many at all.
35:5435 minutes, 54 secondsLike we I feel like we're a poster child of a good CTE program because many most high schools don't offer that many. We
36:0136 minutes, 1 secondhave um programs that are really uh creating these what they call ready graduates that are post-secary and
36:0836 minutes, 8 secondsworkforce ready when they leave high school. Our ACT scores are up. They have uh reflected increases over the last four years. And currently for this
36:1736 minutes, 17 secondsschool year, one thing we can measure during the school year is attendance rates. And our attendance rates in almost every school are higher than they
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondswere this time last year. So we're seeing really good attendance rates. And then lastly, our teacher retention rates are good. This is something that we
36:3136 minutes, 31 secondshaven't always faced. Um, Hickman County is unique in that it borders multiple counties that are able to pay teachers
36:3936 minutes, 39 secondsmore. So, the fact that over the last several years, our teachers are choosing to stay here says a lot about our school system and that they're happy here. Um,
36:4836 minutes, 48 secondsall that to say is just those are the positives and why I feel like we're on this really good trajectory of success in Hickman County and I want to do
36:5636 minutes, 56 secondseverything I can as the superintendent to keep us on that path. Um, but I don't want to shy away from some challenges
37:0337 minutes, 3 secondsthat we also face. Um, our challenges uh, as you all probably know, I'm sure you've heard this before, we uh, we are
37:1337 minutes, 13 secondsno longer receiving ESSER funding. Esser funding uh was a postcoid relief funding. It was a significant amount of
37:2037 minutes, 20 secondsdollars. Uh we were able to get that over multiple years. We were able to pay for positions with that facility upgrades
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsuh technology just to name a few. Um and we are no longer getting that. So the the school system is now on the hook to
37:3637 minutes, 36 secondscontinue to pay for some of those things. Our student enrollment is down.
37:4137 minutes, 41 secondsI don't want to shy away from that um that fact. It is true. every year we have lost a few more students. Um I do
37:4937 minutes, 49 secondswant to point out that we have about 800 right around 800 students in the county that either choose uh private school or
37:5737 minutes, 57 secondshomeschool as an option. That is a parent's choice and I'm not here to bash private school and homeschool. But I want to make sure you understand it is
38:0638 minutes, 6 secondsnot unique to this county. So across the state, I looked at numbers um of homeschool and private school students
38:1438 minutes, 14 secondsaverage across the state. And right now statewide, there are about 13% of students who are homeschooled statewide
38:2138 minutes, 21 secondsand about 10% of students who are enrolled in a private school. When I did the same calculation with our students
38:2838 minutes, 28 secondshere in Hickman, 800 students versus the total number of students that live in Hickman, we were exactly 23% also. So,
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsI'm just telling you that to say it is not a unique situation that more families are choosing homeschool and private school for their children.
38:4538 minutes, 45 secondsSchool [clears throat] choice is a very popular thing right now and I think it's becoming more and more popular with school vouchers. So, um you know, I'm
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondstelling you that. But it it also doesn't mean that we're not going to try to do everything we can to begin to try to
39:0139 minutes, 1 secondreenroll some of those students to, you know, make our school system more appealing. I think the more successful we are as a school system, the more
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondsappealing our our schools begin to be. I also think that, you know, we have to get on board with um creating school
39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsoptions for parents and we are thinking about those things. So that brings me to our plan. So our plan for um moving into
39:2739 minutes, 27 secondsthis coming school year is that we know for sure we need to stabilize spending.
39:3239 minutes, 32 secondsUm, we want to look at areas where we can increase revenue and we want to operate more efficiently. We want to
39:3939 minutes, 39 secondsstart by looking at our virtual school program. Again, because we have 800 children that live in Hickman County and
39:4839 minutes, 48 secondschoose other options. Hickman County has um a virtual school academy. It's Hickman County Virtual Academy, I
39:5539 minutes, 55 secondsbelieve, is the name of it. And um the current um approval for that school is that we only allow students who reside
40:0340 minutes, 3 secondswithin our county to go to Hickman County Virtual. That's how it was approved. That is the only thing we can do. Other school systems are partnering
40:1140 minutes, 11 secondswith um other entities to allow students all over the state to enroll. We're not quite interested in doing that yet.
40:1940 minutes, 19 secondsTypically, those schools don't do very well. What we are interested in doing is making sure that our families understand we do have a virtual school option that
40:2740 minutes, 27 secondsit is free. Um families that choose to homeschool or choose private school options are paying for those options.
40:3340 minutes, 33 secondsOur virtual school option is free. So we know we want to begin to publicize and promote our virtual SC school program
40:4140 minutes, 41 secondsand we have plans to begin looking to that immediately. Um we are all also looking at other revenue sources um
40:4940 minutes, 49 secondswhere we could just increase some of our revenue. For instance, um we're looking at u putting ads on school buses. Other
40:5740 minutes, 57 secondsschool systems do this. They do get a significant amount of money. It doesn't really um you know it doesn't do
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsanything there. It's just every bus and I want to say we have about 40 buses I think. Is that right? Something to that
41:1041 minutes, 10 secondsarea. um where we could put ads on school buses and it would just be a source of consistent revenue. So, we're
41:1841 minutes, 18 secondslooking at that. We've also um recently got some information about um allowing
41:2441 minutes, 24 secondscommunic communication towers to be built on our school property. Um this would be done in an effort to increase cell service in the county, which I
41:3241 minutes, 32 secondsthink no one would be opposed to. Um but it would also be a continuous source of revenue and no cost to us. So, just some things like that that we are looking at.
41:4241 minutes, 42 secondsWe haven't we have not signed any contracts to do any of that stuff yet,
41:4541 minutes, 45 secondsbut we are looking at those types of things. We also have a plan to continue to to seek out and look for grant
41:5341 minutes, 53 secondsopportunities to fund positions and help offset cost. We know that we have to reduce non-essential spending. We also
42:0242 minutes, 2 secondsknow that we have to uh begin to look at noncritical positions. We understand that that is something that that needs
42:1142 minutes, 11 secondsto happen. We would love to say that we are going to do that only through attrition. [clears throat]
42:1642 minutes, 16 secondsWhen someone leaves, we just won't fill that position. But but being real, there there may be some areas where we are
42:2342 minutes, 23 secondsreally going to have to take a hard look um and and and and look at non-critical positions and what we might need to do
42:3042 minutes, 30 secondsthere. Um, and then the one other thing I wanted to point out in terms of our plan is we we have an internal goal or maybe I should say I have an internal
42:3942 minutes, 39 secondsgoal of of you have a budget in front of you, but I would like to see us only spend 90% of that budget. If we could save 10% of the budget that we've
42:4842 minutes, 48 secondspresented to you, we will have saved a lot of money. So, it would just be an internal goal. We know there are some areas that we will not be able to do that. But maybe for other areas we could
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondsdo it a bit more, but just being very mindful of every dollar that [clears throat] we spend and trying to decrease spending as much as possible.
43:0443 minutes, 4 secondsSo that brings me to my request for you all tonight. We are specifically requesting for 8 cents that the budget
43:1243 minutes, 12 secondsthat you have reflects 8 cents um in property taxes. The reason that we came to 8 cents is that 8 cents is
43:2043 minutes, 20 secondsspecifically tied to a state mandate that we really have no discretion over.
43:2543 minutes, 25 secondsUm teacher salaries, as you are likely aware of, um had to increase by next school year up to $50,000. The minimum
43:3443 minutes, 34 secondsteacher salary must be 50,000. And then there are other incremental salary raises that must be in place, I want to
43:4143 minutes, 41 secondssay at uh 1 to five years, 6 to 10 years, and then 11 years plus. So, we had to meet that state mandate. It was
43:4843 minutes, 48 secondsan unfunded state mandate. We didn't ask for it. And let me just stop and say, I am for it. I am for teacher races. I
43:5643 minutes, 56 secondsabsolutely want our teachers to get paid the maximum amount possible. They deserve it. They work hard every day. It
44:0344 minutes, 3 secondsis the the lowest paid profession in my opinion. So, they deserve every bit of state increase they can get. But in this
44:1144 minutes, 11 secondsparticular regard, uh we did not we did not absolutely decide this was where we wanted to go with the salary raises.
44:1844 minutes, 18 secondsThis was a mandate. So we are going to comply with that mandate. We have no choice. But for that mandate, we uh will
44:2544 minutes, 25 secondsneed $700,000. That was the the cost estimate. It's about $700,000. Actually, I think maybe a little more than that.
44:3244 minutes, 32 secondsAnd and and that amount of money equates to a little over eight cents. So the the
44:3944 minutes, 39 secondsrequest to you tonight is 48 cents. Um as a separate request other than that
44:4644 minutes, 46 secondsthat budget as a separate request we are we would like to ask for your help in some of our maintenance projects our bigger maintenance projects. I believe
44:5544 minutes, 55 secondsyou have maybe in your last page you do have the maintenance projects that we [clears throat] have outlined as needing um significant help with. I think it um
45:0445 minutes, 4 secondsequals out to 400 $400,000 something a little over that.
45:1245 minutes, 12 secondsBut you have that in your packet.
45:1545 minutes, 15 secondsUm we realize that you know asking for that type of help would not uh would not affect the maintenance of effort and
45:2445 minutes, 24 secondsthat would be you know mutually beneficial hopefully for that it wouldn't increase the maintenance of effort but it would certainly help us out.
45:3245 minutes, 32 secondsSo basically in closing, I just want to say that we we understand the difficult position you're in. We are not, you
45:3945 minutes, 39 secondsknow, it's not our intent to place additional strain on you all as commissioners. Um but we feel like our
45:4645 minutes, 46 seconds8ent request is the right and responsible thing to do given that we,
45:5045 minutes, 50 secondsyou know, we have a state mandate that we must comply with. We must meet this legal legal obligation to our teachers.
45:5645 minutes, 56 secondsAnd at this time, I'll take any questions that you have. a question.
46:0246 minutes, 2 secondsWe you said something about Sir,
46:0546 minutes, 5 secondswe uh we don't actually take questions from um somebody that's not a commissioner unless the all the commissioners, you know, were to agree
46:1346 minutes, 13 secondsupon, you know, hearing somebody from the audience, but the the public comment period is really set aside for for that sort of [clears throat] uh discussion.
46:2046 minutes, 20 secondsSo, um but any commissioners have questions?
46:3646 minutes, 36 secondsI've got a question. Okay.
46:3846 minutes, 38 secondsUm the the enrollment, you said it went down, but I'm not sure that we or that it's been going down. So, what what is
46:4546 minutes, 45 secondsthe enrollment number for the current year that we're in?
46:5046 minutes, 50 secondsWhat are we uh projecting in this budget year? As of I want to say yesterday when I asked our current enrollment number
46:5946 minutes, 59 secondswas 2,824 students [clears throat]
47:0247 minutes, 2 secondsand what was the other part of your question? What is budgeted for this? Uh oh. What is budgeted meaning like for
47:1047 minutes, 10 secondsTissa? What we got for Tissa for enrollment? Yes.
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsSo that would have been based on last [clears throat] year's number. I believe the TISA projection was ba is that right Mike? Artisa our Tissa revenue was based
47:2247 minutes, 22 secondson last year's TISA revenue is based on the prior year.
47:2547 minutes, 25 secondsPrior [clears throat] year. So prior year was 2893 and this year we have 2824.
47:3447 minutes, 34 secondsCorrect.
47:4147 minutes, 41 seconds2027 is seeing a possible increase in enrollment as we pick up a larger
47:4847 minutes, 48 secondskindergarten class coming in versus the graduating classes that are happening.
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsAnd so there there is possible increase in those areas. Commissioner Cal,
48:0048 minutesuh on the revenue side, and it's on the screen there, uh the local option sales tax.
48:0848 minutes, 8 secondsUh talk to me about the that number that's in it. She's got it highlighted there, the 2.9
48:1748 minutes, 17 secondslike where did you come up with that number?
48:2148 minutes, 21 secondsSpeak to that. That is the number that was left in place from last year. As you know, local option sales tax regardless
48:2948 minutes, 29 secondsof the budgeted number, the revenues come in at what they're going to come in. [clears throat] And so that does not
48:3748 minutes, 37 secondsimpact overall. I mean it is something we take into account when we make our estimate of what we're going to see
48:4548 minutes, 45 secondspossibly in a deficit not in the budgeted deficit but the reasonable deficit but to increase that number is
48:5448 minutes, 54 secondsto increase maintenance effort without actual change in revenues that would be going to us
49:0249 minutes, 2 secondssay that last part again it would be a change in maintenance of effort without changing the actual
49:1049 minutes, 10 secondsrevenues that would come to us. We we estimate it being higher,
49:1749 minutes, 17 secondsbut it comes in at 50% of what the county receives regardless of what it's
49:2449 minutes, 24 secondsbudgeted at. And so that budget number does not impact what the revenue side of
49:3349 minutes, 33 secondssales tax is. And so when we budgeted the increase in we have
49:4049 minutes, 40 secondstaken that into account in our not our budgeted estimate of fund balance but our reasonable expectation of where
49:4949 minutes, 49 secondswe're going balance what those revenues will be at next year based off current projections. But we still are requesting
49:5849 minutes, 58 secondsthe 8% to meet the additional needs uh that we have. Okay. So, what what [clears throat]
50:0650 minutes, 6 secondsyou're saying is is that that 2.9 y'all are expecting it to be higher.
50:1550 minutes, 15 secondsWe are expecting it to be.
50:1750 minutes, 17 secondsOkay. Because that I mean because that does change that does change and I understand what you're saying that that's we we do not
50:2450 minutes, 24 secondscontrol that. It's just how that the citizens of Hickman County spend their money. But the the 2425 actual came in at 3.2.
50:3750 minutes, 37 secondsI mean, and so I mean, and I'd say this year's gonna be I mean, it's trended higher every year.
50:4350 minutes, 43 secondsIt's trended higher every year. So what what you're saying is is you're going to leave in the 2.9
50:4950 minutes, 49 secondsexpecting it to be higher than that. And if it's trending right, it's probably going to be what? 34 35.
50:5750 minutes, 57 secondsI I actually think it's going to be higher than that.
50:5950 minutes, 59 secondsOkay. Okay. Good. estimated that into what we're requesting on the property. Okay.
51:0851 minutes, 8 secondsI I agree with you that that number is but is an issue but I don't know how to
51:1651 minutes, 16 secondshandle that without increasing your maintenance effort when it's really not the funding that we're getting in the following year.
51:2451 minutes, 24 secondsI I I understand. Yes. Because what you're saying is that number increases.
51:2951 minutes, 29 secondsIt does change because everything in the yellow right there changes the maintenance of effort, right?
51:3451 minutes, 34 secondsAnd so, but that number that number uh could possibly go down. In theory, it could and and it hasn't.
51:4251 minutes, 42 secondsIt hasn't. It's trended up every year.
51:4551 minutes, 45 secondsBut, but I I understand what you're saying there. It's just for me in the way I look at things, I would prefer for that number to be as accurate as possible. Um,
51:5751 minutes, 57 secondsbut what you're [clears throat] saying is is that there there are other needs in this budget and this budget is is pretty tight. And so that's where the
52:0652 minutes, 6 secondsOkay. Because I mean that's I mean if it's if it's 3.6
52:1352 minutes, 13 secondsI mean we just wiped out well we just wiped out about seven cents. So it I mean if that's if that's
52:2252 minutes, 22 secondsif that number right there and that's just me do quick math in my head on that
52:2952 minutes, 29 secondsyou wiped out a numerical seven cents but you did not wipe out but what you do is you actually wipe out the total
52:3952 minutes, 39 secondsincrease that we would receive with the 8 cents because the 8 cents is an actual number of increase that we will get
52:4652 minutes, 46 secondsbased off of the budget. the let's just say 3.6.
52:5252 minutes, 52 secondsThat's about what we have it estimated for next year when we're calculating what our
53:0153 minutes, 1 secondfund balance hit would be in comparison to trying to keep our expenditures lower, but those dollars are going to be
53:0953 minutes, 9 secondsthere regardless. And so we have counted those in our estimate,
53:1653 minutes, 16 secondsnot in the budgeted estimate, but when we come in and we present what we expect reasonably, that that increase is
53:2453 minutes, 24 secondsalready in there. And so to put it in to the budget increases maintenance of
53:3053 minutes, 30 secondseffort without addressing the funds on the property s side that we also need in
53:3853 minutes, 38 secondsorder to minimize that fund balance here and address this uh as she has said the salary portion
53:4753 minutes, 47 secondshas been mandated and so that it's a hard number to deal with and I understand budgeted more, but it
53:5653 minutes, 56 secondsincreases that fund balance and it really doesn't.
54:0054 minutesWe we take we've taken into account that part on the revenue side in our estimates of what we're going to
54:0854 minutes, 8 secondshit fund balance with the current funding and this I mean this discussion has come up before and I mean and it
54:1554 minutes, 15 secondsjust I mean because the way I look at it and [clears throat] I do I understand what you're saying better now than I have in years past but when I look at
54:2354 minutes, 23 secondsthat what I'm looking at is okay this is what the school system's going to get from all those different pots all those different that's that's how I
54:3254 minutes, 32 secondssee it and when that number is 2.9 not showing what we that it it looks you know it has an appearance that you know
54:4154 minutes, 41 secondsbecause y'all are going to get it no matter what I mean because that number could come in 4 million you know right
54:4954 minutes, 49 secondsyou guys will be coming in at close to that also oh yeah oh yeah well yeah I mean it's and that I mean that helps everything
54:5554 minutes, 55 secondsand so uh but that that's just I mean it If my preference and I understand what you're saying is that that number right
55:0255 minutes, 2 secondsthere would be trending like it would be showing how it's probably going to be trending. But I do I understand I I yield Mr. Chair.
55:1555 minutes, 15 secondsCommissioner Picker.
55:1655 minutes, 16 secondsSo you talked a little bit about uh homeschooling, private schooling.
55:2055 minutes, 20 secondsUm and obviously that affects the funding. Um, and I think you said you're at about a quarter of about 25% a little
55:2855 minutes, 28 secondsless of of the students. Um, it does that continue to trend up each year? It does.
55:3655 minutes, 36 secondsUm, and uh, is there a particular demographic? Is it more um, you know,
55:4355 minutes, 43 secondshigh schoolers? Is it more?
55:4555 minutes, 45 secondsIt's more right now it's more toward the elementary side. Um so often what will
55:5255 minutes, 52 secondshappen with especially with homeschooling [clears throat] is that they will the parents feel um comfortable with homeschooling up
56:0056 minutesthrough maybe 8th grade and then when it gets very specified by high school they may try to either enroll them in a private school at that point or enroll them back into the public school system.
56:1156 minutes, 11 secondsSo So our numbers now by grade level the majority are in K through8 range. Okay.
56:1856 minutes, 18 secondsour um our current virtual program is only open to 6 through 12. So, we're looking at opening that up to K12.
56:2856 minutes, 28 secondsSo, what other tools would you try to use? So, the virtual I didn't realize that's the virtual is a a good good idea. Are there other um incentives that
56:3756 minutes, 37 secondsyou think you guys could focus on to try to for lack of it lure those children those kids back into the school system?
56:4556 minutes, 45 secondsSure. We're looking at that now. We want to make sure that we are prepared for all the questions that they might ask.
56:5256 minutes, 52 secondsOne thing that uh faith-based homeschool families are going to want to know is about the curriculum. They might be very concerned about um indoctrinating
57:0057 minuteschildren and we do we you know we obviously not trying to do that. Um, so we are we're, you know, kind of going
57:0757 minutes, 7 secondsahead and writing out a Q&A so that when and if we approach families just to let them know that it's a free option that we can have those questions and answer
57:1657 minutes, 16 secondsthose as they come up. Um, and the the it to me the biggest incentive is that it is free. Even if a family chooses um
57:2457 minutes, 24 secondsan option like home life academy which is one of the least expensive options they are paying monthly for that and getting almost no services. All that
57:3357 minutes, 33 secondshome life academy does is keep up [clears throat and cough] rates um and report card things for students. We would be teaching you know we would be
57:4157 minutes, 41 secondsmeeting with their child and actually providing the curriculum providing a um all the necessary materials and things like that and it's free. So,
57:5257 minutes, 52 secondsthank you. How do county students?
58:0058 minutesYes. Do we charge for those? Is there a fee for that?
58:0458 minutes, 4 secondsI believe board policy. Is there still a board policy? No.
58:0758 minutes, 7 secondsSo, no, that got taken out of board policy. How come we don't charge for students?
58:1258 minutes, 12 secondsBecause I think the decision was made and the board could speak to it. I don't want to speak for it now, but with the
58:2058 minutes, 20 secondspiece of dollars coming in from the state on the revenue side to if we could attract them, that's getting us more funding. Anyway,
58:2958 minutes, 29 secondsif I heard you right, then we we come out better not charging them and taking them than we do for I think they felt like that that would
58:3858 minutes, 38 secondsopen the door to more people trying to I knew at one time we we did it one time. I don't think it was a significant amount.
58:4758 minutes, 47 secondsYeah, when we did it was $1,000 for the
58:5658 minutes, 56 secondsHow are you? I'm Jim Herren. Nice nice to meet you.
59:0059 minutesJust really not talking about kind of the budget, but but the word I heard you used three or four times was making an appeal.
59:0859 minutes, 8 secondsI that that caught my attention and and um I kind of have my own theory why maybe the growment has been going down the last few years, but [clears throat]
59:1859 minutes, 18 secondsthat but uh but that word again you use that that I say that caught my eye and I'm like making that appealing where we
59:2859 minutes, 28 secondscan get those students to come back
59:3159 minutes, 31 seconds[cough and clears throat]
59:3259 minutes, 32 secondsand uh and and and I believe and I trust in you. I believe that that that can be done.
59:3859 minutes, 38 secondsI feel like we we already um do a really great job at promoting our programs and things like that. But, you know, just
59:4659 minutes, 46 secondsmaking sure that people understand, you know, like for instance, the CTE program, I'm especially proud of that just because of everything that we offer
59:5359 minutes, 53 secondsthrough that program. So, making sure that our families understand, especially the ones that might consider coming back, these are things that they
1:00:001 hourcouldn't typically get from a private school. So, we That's definitely something we want to continue to to look at.
1:00:161 hour, 16 secondsChris,
1:00:171 hour, 17 secondsuh on the capital projects, uh what what did they ask there? I see the dollar amount, but how does that was that how
1:00:251 hour, 25 secondsis that what's the uh how's that funding? How do you want us to do that funding? What's the request?
1:00:351 hour, 35 secondsSo is the because it's not it's not in your regular budget.
1:00:391 hour, 39 secondsCorrect. So we are just asking for that asking for you to help fund some capital projects or capital maintenance projects
1:00:461 hour, 46 secondsas a separate request. This is a separate thing that we're we're asking for. And we did um we did have you know
1:00:551 hour, 55 secondsseveral other u projects on there. We we've really looked at some of those and eliminated several off of what this original list looked like. I think the
1:01:031 hour, 1 minute, 3 secondsoriginal list did have 700 some odd thousand um projects listed and we've tried to hone
1:01:121 hour, 1 minute, 12 secondsin on what the most urgent things were. Crystal, how will that be handled?
1:01:211 hour, 1 minute, 21 secondsThat would be up to you guys. Um I I think probably a capital outlay note depending on unless you wanted to amend
1:01:291 hour, 1 minute, 29 secondsyour adequate facilities. Um But you're already utilizing 400,000 a bit in that current budget.
1:01:461 hour, 1 minute, 46 secondsI just I would like to know just the tennis courts. Uh I had someone approached me last year about the
1:01:531 hour, 1 minute, 53 secondsresurfacing the high school and it was 80,000.
1:02:011 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondum I mean that's it just seemed like that that could be a recurring problem every
1:02:081 hour, 2 minutes, 8 secondstwo years. Is it going to be it could I think what might be cut off of that screenshot is it's two schools.
1:02:141 hour, 2 minutes, 14 secondsIt's the East High School and the Hickman County High School. Okay. So it's both of those. Okay. Yes. Yeah.
1:02:271 hour, 2 minutes, 27 secondsDo you know the when we replace those lights? I mean, it seems like we replaced them when I was on the school board, which has not been very long ago.
1:02:391 hour, 2 minutes, 39 secondsYeah, I think we did a just a filling of cracks. Okay.
1:02:431 hour, 2 minutes, 43 secondsAnd smoothing. But as far as Hickman County High School and the big project to fill
1:02:521 hour, 2 minutes, 52 secondsthose, that was done uh actually prior to before I came into this position which was 10 years ago.
1:03:001 hour, 3 minutesOkay.
1:03:001 hour, 3 minutesNow there's been there's been some there.
1:03:111 hour, 3 minutes, 11 secondsSo I I did some quick math. It looks like the So the request really if you if you look at it $720,000 which is about
1:03:191 hour, 3 minutes, 19 seconds11.69% 69% of the current uh maintenance of effort that that that we are providing is what what I came up with. I
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondsknow one of the things you mentioned was salaries and I looked at the the salary schedules um for the teachers it looks
1:03:351 hour, 3 minutes, 35 secondslike to get them at the 50,000 which I I don't know if you you all will be going higher than 50,000 as a starting but
1:03:421 hour, 3 minutes, 42 secondsthat would be about a 4% increase for those. Is there any I I I guess you know I think you mentioned $700,000 in
1:03:511 hour, 3 minutes, 51 secondsaddition. Is there any anything else other than any positions being added? Anything of that nature?
1:03:561 hour, 3 minutes, 56 secondsNo positions being added to that. Um we we do typically build in a cushion of a few positions just in case, but we don't
1:04:041 hour, 4 minutes, 4 secondsanticipate filling those. We always do that so that we don't have to continue to come back to uh county commission to ask for another position. Um, but we we are not anticipating [clears throat]
1:04:151 hour, 4 minutes, 15 secondsfilling extra positions. No.
1:04:181 hour, 4 minutes, 18 secondsUm, the line items that you're looking at, I want to make sure that you you see that there are teachers listed on several of the different Okay. Okay.
1:04:271 hour, 4 minutes, 27 secondsOkay.
1:04:301 hour, 4 minutes, 30 secondsI just looked at your the salary schedule and starting what what we're currently at zeroyear schedule is 47924.
1:04:371 hour, 4 minutes, 37 secondsTo get them to 50,000 is about a 4% increase. a little over. Yes.
1:04:421 hour, 4 minutes, 42 secondsUm, so that's where I was going and I I know the rest of the schedule. I know the rest of it has to go up. You can't just you can't make a zero year be 50,000 and
1:04:501 hour, 4 minutes, 50 secondsleave a one here at 48. I understand that. So, but um and you know across the board I'm just saying it's probably a 4%
1:04:581 hour, 4 minutes, 58 secondsincrease across everything.
1:04:591 hour, 4 minutes, 59 secondsUm there were the the one that we we haven't completely ironed it specifically down yet. What we did was
1:05:061 hour, 5 minutes, 6 secondswe looked at 50,000. Let's say we start zero year at 50,000. Exactly. And then um again there are increments that also
1:05:151 hour, 5 minutes, 15 secondshave to be in place five years uh 10 years and then after that 11th year. So we we made increments through
1:05:241 hour, 5 minutes, 24 secondsto those to [clears throat] those um minimums at those points. I want to say the first 16 years or so was around a
1:05:331 hour, 5 minutes, 33 secondsfour point maybe a little bit more. And then past that, we began to look at maybe not as significant. It's not statemandated. And again, we're trying
1:05:411 hour, 5 minutes, 41 secondsto save every dollar we can. So, we've looked at a salary schedule that might be after that uh a little bit less than
1:05:481 hour, 5 minutes, 48 seconds4%. But again, we we we don't want to get in a place where it looks like we're incentivizing brand new teachers and not
1:05:551 hour, 5 minutes, 55 secondsour seasoned teachers that have been here for a long time. So, we're we're still [clears throat] thinking through how that needs to go.
1:06:021 hour, 6 minutes, 2 secondsYeah. But the but the amount that we gave you was at the bare 50,000 exactly,
1:06:071 hour, 6 minutes, 7 secondsyou know, those bare minimums that we're required to do. Yeah.
1:06:111 hour, 6 minutes, 11 secondsSo I didn't realize that. So the state the mandate is at starting at 50, but then they also have rights that are above that. Do we know what those are?
1:06:201 hour, 6 minutes, 20 secondsBecause I'm I do. I have those with me. Let me sit down.
1:06:301 hour, 6 minutes, 30 secondsOkay. So um zero has to be 50,000. Uh years 1 to five the minimum must be 50,645.
1:06:411 hour, 6 minutes, 41 secondsYears 6 to 10 53,370 and beginning with year 11 56,900.
1:06:511 hour, 6 minutes, 51 secondsThere are also brackets for advanced degrees. Yeah. Do you want me to give those to you? Oh,
1:06:571 hour, 6 minutes, 57 secondsit's it's almost, but they they'll probably follow a very similar trend, I would think, of Yes. increasing where we're at. Yes.
1:07:061 hour, 7 minutes, 6 secondsCan I speak just one note to that?
1:07:081 hour, 7 minutes, 8 secondsThose have not been released by the state yet. What we did was go back and look at the increased amount that they have done for the last 10 years to the
1:07:181 hour, 7 minutes, 18 secondsbase. And so, we set that up while be released by the second June.
1:07:241 hour, 7 minutes, 24 secondsOkay. Okay. And that is mandated forward with 262 for next year. Yes. That coming school year.
1:07:391 hour, 7 minutes, 39 secondsAny other questions or comments or motions on the table? because uh my understanding is we obviously can't
1:07:471 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondsdictate where you spend the money, but we [clears throat] literally just approve the number, which would be if there's a cost increase in um property
1:07:571 hour, 7 minutes, 57 secondstax and and and we can suggest maybe uh you know adjusting that that local option sales tax. Um either one of them
1:08:061 hour, 8 minutes, 6 secondscreates a maintenance of effort uh that we have to we have to to stay to going forward whether we budget if it's budgeted it we it's it's got to be made.
1:08:181 hour, 8 minutes, 18 secondsIs that right Crystal? Did I say that right? Like if we if we say increase your local option sales tax to 3.5
1:08:271 hour, 8 minutes, 27 secondsyou could send it back and make that recommendation. Right. Right. Yeah.
1:08:341 hour, 8 minutes, 34 secondsI'd like to see the local sales tax at 3.3 where it was. Are you making a motion?
1:08:421 hour, 8 minutes, 42 secondsI got a motion by Commissioner Barnhill to um [clears throat]
1:08:461 hour, 8 minutes, 46 secondssend back the budget with guidance to prov uh change the local option to 3.3. Yeah.
1:08:541 hour, 8 minutes, 54 secondsChair. Well, I got a motion on the table first. Okay.
1:08:591 hour, 8 minutes, 59 secondsSo, I I needed a second then I can Is there a second? Got a second by Commissioner Jordan. Not discussion.
1:09:051 hour, 9 minutes, 5 secondsI was just going to say I mean I think this is going to take a little bit you know I mean just to see kind of what things look like, you know. I mean but
1:09:131 hour, 9 minutes, 13 secondsif you want to do motions that's fine. I mean it was so that's all I was going I'd like to see what that number looks like and you know but but fine. It's fine.
1:09:221 hour, 9 minutes, 22 secondsWell Crystal has it right there. She can plug it in and we can go from there if Crystal doesn't mind.
1:09:501 hour, 9 minutes, 50 secondsSo that increased the overall increase to 3 325,000.
1:09:581 hour, 9 minutes, 58 secondsthe difference between current year versus I mean budget year versus current year basically
1:10:131 hour, 10 minutes, 13 seconds[clears throat]
1:10:151 hour, 10 minutes, 15 secondswas the intent to lower the I guess that might be what she's working on
1:10:221 hour, 10 minutes, 22 seconds[clears throat]
1:10:231 hour, 10 minutes, 23 secondsI guess that's a question I think the intent was I think Yeah. Uh to adjust the the the penny rate.
1:10:311 hour, 10 minutes, 31 secondsYeah.
1:10:341 hour, 10 minutes, 34 secondsAnd and you've got the uh you've got the adjusted rate in there. So So the the the handout that you had was 841 191. I
1:10:411 hour, 10 minutes, 41 secondsthink we're uh what Crystal gave us tonight it it's adjusted down a little bit to 83969. Is that correct?
1:10:501 hour, 10 minutes, 50 secondsBut the tax rate has went [clears throat] up just a little bit. So if you look at um the rate right now
1:10:571 hour, 10 minutes, 57 secondsbefore any increase it would be 33.81 cents and it would rate uh the revenue would be 2,838 975 and then with the 8 cents it would be 3,510723.
1:11:151 hour, 11 minutes, 15 secondspretty small change in the diff in the in the change. But if you didn't notice that, [clears throat] that's the difference in the two.
1:11:411 hour, 11 minutes, 41 secondsI think if you were trying to offset the the request of eight cents, it would bring it down about almost four pennies. Yeah.
1:11:491 hour, 11 minutes, 49 secondsYeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
1:12:041 hour, 12 minutes, 4 secondsThank you. Just
1:12:171 hour, 12 minutes, 17 secondsyour maintenance of effort to 710 516.
1:12:281 hour, 12 minutes, 28 secondsAny other discussion on the with the motion that's on the floor?
1:12:361 hour, 12 minutes, 36 secondsI got a question. This probably a crystal question or Danny somebody's been on here a while might can answer.
1:12:421 hour, 12 minutes, 42 secondsHas there ever been a time where say we ask for a capital projects like a list like instead of just these four things you mentioned other things that
1:12:501 hour, 12 minutes, 50 secondshave been cut instead of having to come back next year next or something [clears throat] else where we could look at kind of tackling that all at once.
1:12:581 hour, 12 minutes, 58 secondsAnd my second part of that question is,
1:13:011 hour, 13 minutes, 1 secondcould something like that be funded if it could get voted and approved by the public on a will tax as opposed to
1:13:091 hour, 13 minutes, 9 secondsessentially paying with it their property taxes? I know typically the will tax is just big stuff like building a school or a jail. But something I've
1:13:171 hour, 13 minutes, 17 secondshad people pretty consistently tell me in the public is they would rather pay with stuff on a wheel tax than everything being on property tax. So,
1:13:261 hour, 13 minutes, 26 secondsI guess I'm asking if if we know there's major capital projects coming up pretty soon rather than trying to tackle two here and one here and let's see what
1:13:341 hour, 13 minutes, 34 secondsthat next five years or 10 years looks like. And that may not be an option, but I think it's worth exploring, you know,
1:13:411 hour, 13 minutes, 41 secondsif there's other things they know of that are that are coming.
1:13:441 hour, 13 minutes, 44 secondsYeah. I mean, I think you could look at will tax, but I think you could also uh look at a capital outlay loan, too. It's
1:13:511 hour, 13 minutes, 51 secondsnot a huge uh you know most times taxes for something larger like a school system or you know school when we built
1:13:581 hour, 13 minutes, 58 secondsthe immediate school and also the high school. Um I would lean if it's less than a million dollars and I feel like
1:14:061 hour, 14 minutes, 6 secondsit would be I I would lean towards a capital. I think it would be easier and I think your uh your debt if you look at
1:14:141 hour, 14 minutes, 14 secondsuh the debt analysis it is slowly decreasing.
1:14:181 hour, 14 minutes, 18 secondsWe did have that FEMA loan, but I think we're going to come in a little less than what we originally thought. And I think but I think we'll be able to pay
1:14:261 hour, 14 minutes, 26 secondsthat off with reimbursement. So taking that out of the mix, I think that would be the best bet.
1:14:381 hour, 14 minutes, 38 secondsAnything else? Mr. Clark,
1:14:401 hour, 14 minutes, 40 secondsthat's the way we handled the remodeling of the bus garage.
1:14:471 hour, 14 minutes, 47 secondsI think it was about the same amount of money about 400 $450,000. We did a capital outlay not
1:14:551 hour, 14 minutes, 55 secondsand it didn't affect the maintenance of effort to do that.
1:15:021 hour, 15 minutes, 2 secondsI get what Clay's going at though. Okay,
1:15:061 hour, 15 minutes, 6 secondsit's 400,000 this year. Will it be another 400,000 next year and the year after that and the year after that?
1:15:161 hour, 15 minutes, 16 secondsto be reoccurring funding
1:15:251 hour, 15 minutes, 25 secondsand I still have the floor. I get the same thing from the public that that Clay was talking about.
1:15:361 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsWheel taxes seem to be real popular in the public right now. I don't know if everybody's planning on riding a horse or or what the situation is.
1:15:461 hour, 15 minutes, 46 secondsThey seem to be real popular right now. And oh,
1:15:551 hour, 15 minutes, 55 secondscan I ask Casey a question again?
1:15:581 hour, 15 minutes, 58 secondsHow many how many reg car you know the last I checked about? 24,000. 24,000.
1:16:061 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondsThat's been a little bit since I checked. fair tax.
1:16:191 hour, 16 minutes, 19 secondsAnd I I had actually just asked Crystal about will taxes and we actually have one rolling off May of 29. So we have
1:16:271 hour, 16 minutes, 27 secondsone rolling off in three about three years.
1:16:321 hour, 16 minutes, 32 secondsI believe that's the last one other than the perpetual one. There's a $15 per one. All the rest go to debt. I think
1:16:401 hour, 16 minutes, 40 secondsit'll be down to $15 after that one roll.
1:16:531 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondsAny other discussion on the floor?
1:17:011 hour, 17 minutes, 1 secondSo, the motion is for um us to reject the the budget
1:17:091 hour, 17 minutes, 9 secondswith guidance to to go back to uh increase the local option sales tax at
1:17:161 hour, 17 minutes, 16 seconds3.3 million uh and bring the penny down to four pennies.
1:17:241 hour, 17 minutes, 24 secondsI got a question clarification on the way the way this needs to work. Do we just need to reject? I mean I mean it's their budget. I mean that I don't know.
1:17:341 hour, 17 minutes, 34 secondsI mean I I should know but I don't. That's [clears throat]
1:17:391 hour, 17 minutes, 39 secondstrying to think how we would reject just reject.
1:17:481 hour, 17 minutes, 48 seconds[clears throat]
1:17:491 hour, 17 minutes, 49 secondsThey got a job to do. We have a job to do is how the way I see it.
1:17:531 hour, 17 minutes, 53 secondsI mean you know we're kicking it back to them for them to do some work and you know, I I I mean, I'm good with the
1:18:001 hour, 18 minutessuggestions, but I don't tell them how Yeah. to run the school system.
1:18:061 hour, 18 minutes, 6 secondsSo, if if we wanted to make it broad, he could withdraw his No, that's fine.
1:18:101 hour, 18 minutes, 10 secondsAnd and but that and also to clarify,
1:18:151 hour, 18 minutes, 15 secondsuh we're rejecting, but the but the suggestion is a 4 cent increase. Correct.
1:18:241 hour, 18 minutes, 24 secondsFour pennies for Yeah. on the property tax. Okay, which equates to 335,
1:18:321 hour, 18 minutes, 32 seconds874.
1:18:391 hour, 18 minutes, 39 secondsAny other discussion with motion on the floor?
1:18:461 hour, 18 minutes, 46 secondsSo a yes vote would be to reject the the propos what was proposed initially and send it back to the school board the
1:18:541 hour, 18 minutes, 54 secondssuggested guidance. A no vote would be we can continue to have discussions or or make a motion to approve what was
1:19:021 hour, 19 minutes, 2 secondspresented. So just to make sure everybody understands and get a little confusing sometimes.
1:19:121 hour, 19 minutes, 12 secondsNo other discussion follow. Thomasson. Yes. Matthew Barnhill. Yes. Paul Calcott. Yes. Play Chester.
1:19:201 hour, 19 minutes, 20 secondsYes. Danny Clark. Yes. Todd Collins. Yes. Steve Gian. Yes. Jim Heron. Yes. Dusty Jordan. Yes.
1:19:281 hour, 19 minutes, 28 secondsRon Mayberry. Yes. Ricky Murray. Yes. Deon Picker. Yes. At 12. Yes. Two.
1:19:351 hour, 19 minutes, 35 seconds12. Yes. Motion carries.
1:19:391 hour, 19 minutes, 39 secondsAll right. Well, you not yet. We got 43. [laughter] Mr. Present that
1:19:551 hour, 19 minutes, 55 secondsgenerally there's not tons of questions on 143, but I do want to just address a few items and answer any questions that
1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsyou may have. Uh for our central cafeteria, we are on the free lunch program. Uh we're continuing on that program next [cough and clears throat]
1:20:111 hour, 20 minutes, 11 secondsyear. Um you'll notice there has been some uh drop in expenditures
1:20:191 hour, 20 minutes, 19 secondsum in relation to this. Last year we also budgeted for potential summer expenditures. Those are not needed to be
1:20:271 hour, 20 minutes, 27 secondscarried forward into this year. Uh and so those salary line items are a little
1:20:331 hour, 20 minutes, 33 secondsbit less in that. Uh we have seen some increased participation in our programs
1:20:401 hour, 20 minutes, 40 secondsover the last few months. Uh the revenues we estimated based off of current reimbursement levels uh from
1:20:491 hour, 20 minutes, 49 secondsfrom the uh free lunch program and based off of the uh increased participation
1:20:561 hour, 20 minutes, 56 secondsthat we have seen uh over the last couple months. And uh our food service staff has worked hard to uh get
1:21:061 hour, 21 minutes, 6 secondsdifferent options in relation to not different breakfast options, but uh in
1:21:121 hour, 21 minutes, 12 secondsgetting it noted out there and the opportunities for kids to uh participate in that as we have buses that come
1:21:201 hour, 21 minutes, 20 secondsthrough at different times during during the morning uh before school and so just making sure that those things are
1:21:271 hour, 21 minutes, 27 secondsavailable. We've also seen a slight increase in our participation in our lunch program. So those revenues are
1:21:341 hour, 21 minutes, 34 secondsusing current year revenue levels. We don't know uh what the uh uh reimbursement levels will be next year.
1:21:421 hour, 21 minutes, 42 secondsGenerally they are an increase but uh we have not taken that into account in this. Uh there is a slight uh reduction
1:21:511 hour, 21 minutes, 51 secondslike one position or so that's also reported in here.
1:21:591 hour, 21 minutes, 59 secondsAny questions? Commissioner Cher,
1:22:081 hour, 22 minutes, 8 secondsmake a motion to approve 143. A motion by Commissioner Chester,
1:22:111 hour, 22 minutes, 11 secondsseconded by Commissioner Clark. Any discussion on 143 as was? [clears throat and cough]
1:22:211 hour, 22 minutes, 21 secondsIf not, roll call vote. Wayne Thomas, yes. Matthew Barnhill. Yes. Claude, yes. Chester, yes. Danny Clark,
1:22:291 hour, 22 minutes, 29 secondsyes. Collins, yes. Yes. Jim Haring, yes. Jordan, yes. Ron Mayberry, yes. Yes. Deon Picker,
1:22:371 hour, 22 minutes, 37 secondsyes. 12. Yes. 12. Yes. Motion carries. Thank you. So, just a point uh as we do this dance,
1:22:471 hour, 22 minutes, 47 secondswe've got to see you again. Um when could we potentially see you? When does that need to happen?
1:22:551 hour, 22 minutes, 55 secondsUh, well,
1:22:581 hour, 22 minutes, 58 secondswe've got some things that we're going to be talking about tonight that's probably going to have to get approved at in the May meeting. Um, which means
1:23:071 hour, 23 minutes, 7 secondsthat we're probably not going to be able to approve the budget until the June meeting. Is that kind of what we're looking at?
1:23:151 hour, 23 minutes, 15 secondsSo, so sometime between now and probably the the the latest would probably be the second Monday of June.
1:23:261 hour, 23 minutes, 26 secondsUm,
1:23:271 hour, 23 minutes, 27 secondsour regular meeting is Monday. I know that Yeah. Do you have a special session tonight?
1:23:331 hour, 23 minutes, 33 secondsWe do. We have a We have a board meeting at 7. Okay. So,
1:23:381 hour, 23 minutes, 38 secondswell, you could come back Monday. We could put you on the agenda to come back Monday to talk if you would if that um works.
1:23:461 hour, 23 minutes, 46 secondsThat works for you. Yep, that worked for me.
1:23:481 hour, 23 minutes, 48 secondsOkay, good deal. I just wanted to clear that up. Make sure.
1:23:531 hour, 23 minutes, 53 secondsIt's at 510. If we don't have beer business,
1:23:571 hour, 23 minutes, 57 secondsdo we have beer business? I don't I think it's still on the schedule for 5:30.
1:24:011 hour, 24 minutes, 1 secondOkay. Well, it's 5:30 then. I'll be here. All right.
1:24:111 hour, 24 minutes, 11 secondsNext up on the agenda is solid waste. So Jordan, come on up. Thank you.
1:24:201 hour, 24 minutes, 20 secondsOh, yeah. I'll tell you what. Let's do a five minute recess and uh we'll be back in here. Verizon time of 6:50. I got
1:24:291 hour, 24 minutes, 29 seconds6:45 right here. Sure.
1:25:011 hour, 25 minutes, 1 second[clears throat]
1:25:111 hour, 25 minutes, 11 secondsHow you doing?
1:25:251 hour, 25 minutes, 25 secondsWe could
1:25:421 hour, 25 minutes, 42 secondstake 40 years too many years
1:26:031 hour, 26 minutes, 3 secondspopulation.
1:26:061 hour, 26 minutes, 6 seconds[laughter]
1:26:161 hour, 26 minutes, 16 secondsBaby,
1:26:321 hour, 26 minutes, 32 secondsshe said that she was at Hey, Mr. Elkins.
1:26:411 hour, 26 minutes, 41 secondsHey, I was gonna tell you right here about gave me the tax rate. So has adjusted a little bit.
1:26:531 hour, 26 minutes, 53 secondsUh but the tax the new population for the new budget that I have with that stuff.
1:27:091 hour, 27 minutes, 9 secondsOkay. It's on the top of the budget. So I'm just going to resend you the budget that they were playing with tonight.
1:27:141 hour, 27 minutes, 14 secondsThat way you're welcome.
1:27:311 hour, 27 minutes, 31 secondshad. Yeah.
1:27:491 hour, 27 minutes, 49 secondsNo,
1:27:521 hour, 27 minutes, 52 secondswhat you did was exactly
1:28:051 hour, 28 minutes, 5 secondsconservative on that side. Yes. I said,
1:33:231 hour, 33 minutes, 23 secondsmade them mo formally made and approved a motion recommending the budget committee. the budget being presented tonight.
1:33:341 hour, 33 minutes, 34 secondsUm, and two resolutions that would provide the revenue reflected in the proposed budget now have sponsors and
1:33:421 hour, 33 minutes, 42 secondsco-sponsors who publicly express their support and those resolutions are currently under review by the county attorney.
1:33:541 hour, 33 minutes, 54 secondsUm, most of the details in this budget were gone over the last budget committee meeting I spoke.
1:34:061 hour, 34 minutes, 6 secondsUm, so I'm just going to restate the primary factors that are driving our need to increase revenue. Um, the main
1:34:131 hour, 34 minutes, 13 secondsissue is the landfill in Camden is charging us more per ton than they they're charging us more per ton.
1:34:231 hour, 34 minutes, 23 secondsthey were um we're losing a third of our paid business from Perry County. Um
1:34:341 hour, 34 minutes, 34 secondswe have aging equipment and we've got to budget for engineering costs uh for
1:34:411 hour, 34 minutes, 41 secondsour to get started on a permit. These permits take like six years to get and so we need to get started on engineering
1:34:501 hour, 34 minutes, 50 secondsfor that permit and the state uh has said that all the counties need
1:34:571 hour, 34 minutes, 57 secondsto do another 10-year solid waste plan which uh is due sometime in fiscal year 28.
1:35:061 hour, 35 minutes, 6 secondsUm that's the situation that's the situation as I understand it and I'm happy to answer questions.
1:35:131 hour, 35 minutes, 13 secondsAny questions for Jordan? Commissioner,
1:35:201 hour, 35 minutes, 20 secondson the collection side of things,
1:35:241 hour, 35 minutes, 24 secondsare we having more success getting people to pay that weren't paying in the past? I know we we tightened some of the penalties up, but
1:35:321 hour, 35 minutes, 32 secondsabsolutely. Yeah, we're we're doing very well on that. Um we're being more aggressive with collections. Uh um and
1:35:401 hour, 35 minutes, 40 secondswe're right now I think we've received we've we've resolved like 90.5%
1:35:471 hour, 35 minutes, 47 secondsof the current years. So 90.5% of people have paid or claimed their exemption for this year
1:35:551 hour, 35 minutes, 55 secondsand we've collected over the past like two months about 60,000 in uh debt from prior years.
1:36:051 hour, 36 minutes, 5 secondsand we're going to court June 30th to [clears throat] deal with some people
1:36:131 hour, 36 minutes, 13 secondswho are Monday night. We approved a budget amendment to lose some money to uh
1:36:201 hour, 36 minutes, 20 secondsutilize the court systems to go after some of these ones that have not paid.
1:36:251 hour, 36 minutes, 25 secondsWell, because when I was on that committee, that was my concern was, you know, after 30 years or whatever, the rate probably does need to increase. But
1:36:341 hour, 36 minutes, 34 secondsif we haven't done any better on the other side of it, we're just making the people who are already paying pay more and we're not addressing the problem of those who weren't. So that's why I
1:36:421 hour, 36 minutes, 42 secondswanted to see if that that's getting better along with increasing.
1:36:501 hour, 36 minutes, 50 secondsThank you to answer.
1:36:551 hour, 36 minutes, 55 secondsYeah, Jordan's done a good job and done a good job of getting put on those [clears throat] old debts. Some of them will never collect until fl
1:37:041 hour, 37 minutes, 4 secondsand still got leans on them. U but we have made some pretty good strides compared to when you were on it and and
1:37:131 hour, 37 minutes, 13 secondsit's like I said $60,000 in the last what two months. Yeah, that's right.
1:37:181 hour, 37 minutes, 18 secondsSo that's about $59,000 more than we had gotten a few years ago whenever it was that in that same period.
1:37:311 hour, 37 minutes, 31 secondsI I would point out that even from property tax, people don't pay property tax. I mean, and we budgeted at 90, you know, 93% because there's the reasons
1:37:401 hour, 37 minutes, 40 secondsfor that. Obviously, some adjustments and things like that, but there's still,
1:37:441 hour, 37 minutes, 44 secondsyou know, even when the government can take a person's property to settle up the debt is still people don't. So,
1:37:511 hour, 37 minutes, 51 secondsand we can't take property. Yeah.
1:37:571 hour, 37 minutes, 57 secondsAny other discussion? We're not really a proven like this tonight because we got to I can't remember what we had decided on that.
1:38:051 hour, 38 minutes, 5 secondsWere you going to take the see what let them vote on resolutions first or Yes, but that has to be 26,
1:38:131 hour, 38 minutes, 13 secondsright? We have two two resolutions.
1:38:181 hour, 38 minutes, 18 secondsUh the one is reflected the increases and another is a new
1:38:251 hour, 38 minutes, 25 secondswell it's a commercial and industrial to help offset the uh
1:38:321 hour, 38 minutes, 32 secondssome of the cost been incurred by increased inventory from waste management. So uh we can't we can't pass them tonight.
1:38:471 hour, 38 minutes, 47 secondsWe got to wait till 26,
1:38:501 hour, 38 minutes, 50 secondsbut those resolutions are written. And I won't have a copy, but uh but do you have a copy? [snorts]
1:38:581 hour, 38 minutes, 58 secondsUh Dan's currently Dan, we got the lawyer, you know, Dan Dan Member to look at. So,
1:39:061 hour, 39 minutes, 6 secondsit gets a little more complicated obviously with the fee and how it's structured and things like that. But to I think recap how um what what those uh
1:39:161 hour, 39 minutes, 16 secondsresolutions are is taking the uh residential from 90 to 110 and taking
1:39:231 hour, 39 minutes, 23 secondsthe tipping fee to 100 uh from 60 to 100. The commercial and industrial would
1:39:321 hour, 39 minutes, 32 secondsbe a a charge that they have not experienced prior to this but it would be $120 a year.
1:39:441 hour, 39 minutes, 44 secondsThe tipping you fee is what you pay per ton at the landfield. What?
1:39:521 hour, 39 minutes, 52 secondsThe tipping fee is what you pay per ton at the landfield.
1:39:591 hour, 39 minutes, 59 secondsAnd the industrial or the commercial tipping fee would also go from 60 to 100 as well.
1:40:091 hour, 40 minutes, 9 secondsAnd did you say you wanted us to approve those? I I thought we would wouldn't be able to do that until approved.
1:40:161 hour, 40 minutes, 16 secondsUm the solid waste budget. I mean I would say we would come back to it after county commission. Okay.
1:40:241 hour, 40 minutes, 24 secondsIt it would probably be the best. Yeah.
1:40:271 hour, 40 minutes, 27 secondsYeah. I know we have Jordan looks like he loves getting up and presenting. So I think it's great that he gets to come back.
1:40:341 hour, 40 minutes, 34 secondsYou do you do a real good job. You do a real good job. You just come back for the third time.
1:40:401 hour, 40 minutes, 40 secondsThen make sure it it occurred to me.
1:40:501 hour, 40 minutes, 50 secondsI think everybody in here has been on solid waste at one point in time.
1:40:551 hour, 40 minutes, 55 secondsI was on it through the transition
1:40:581 hour, 40 minutes, 58 seconds[clears throat]
1:40:581 hour, 40 minutes, 58 secondsbetween the Perry County booth that we got and
1:41:061 hour, 41 minutes, 6 secondsall the stuff that Jordan did to make it more efficient and cut cost is why we didn't do this two years ago. Uh we're
1:41:141 hour, 41 minutes, 14 secondsgoing to lose we feel like we're going to lose Perry County money. Uh waste management is going up on the fees.
1:41:211 hour, 41 minutes, 21 secondsThis is for those of y'all that don't come to the the solid meeting [clears throat] treasure. A few of you were there the other night when we
1:41:291 hour, 41 minutes, 29 secondstalked about all this. But I I I think Jordan has rung out that rag about all he can. That's what we're we're up against.
1:41:411 hour, 41 minutes, 41 secondsThere's no more tricks to pull.
1:41:431 hour, 41 minutes, 43 secondsBut then I that was my always my concern about [clears throat] raising the fee is we're we're not collecting what we were
1:41:521 hour, 41 minutes, 52 secondscharging that that would be a hard pill to raise the fee but that that's greatly
1:42:001 hour, 42 minutesimproved since you since you were on solid they made a real effort at that.
1:42:081 hour, 42 minutes, 8 seconds[snorts]
1:42:091 hour, 42 minutes, 9 secondsWho was the gentleman the other night Jordan at the meeting? What was his name? The gent he was explaining all that and he
1:42:171 hour, 42 minutes, 17 secondswas sitting right here in the second row. While you may not talk about it.
1:42:281 hour, 42 minutes, 28 secondsAny other discussion on 207? No action tonight. Just more of the FYI.
1:42:341 hour, 42 minutes, 34 secondsYou'll see those resolutions. We'll be voting on those at the commissioner meeting uh fourth Monday in May. We will have a um budget meeting again Monday.
1:42:471 hour, 42 minutes, 47 secondsPlan to attend.
1:42:491 hour, 42 minutes, 49 secondsAnd is there anything any other old business,
1:42:521 hour, 42 minutes, 52 secondsnew business? motion. I got some uh I I think the finance ladies over here
1:43:011 hour, 43 minutes, 1 secondwould appreciate if we'd open 101 back up, take care of that on Oh, yes, that's right. and and the schedule.
1:43:081 hour, 43 minutes, 8 secondsOkay. So, what Well, we had some additional uh things to do in 101 assignments.
1:43:151 hour, 43 minutes, 15 secondsUm, if we could open 101 back up and add in, and we probably need to open the nonprofits, too, so I can add that back into the nonprofit.
1:43:241 hour, 43 minutes, 24 secondsOkay.
1:43:241 hour, 43 minutes, 24 secondsUh, for the 32nd judicial child advocacy.
1:43:301 hour, 43 minutes, 30 secondsUm, and there was, um, let's see. And allow me to also open it back up and
1:43:361 hour, 43 minutes, 36 secondsadjust the tax rate for 101. And then there is a broadband grant um that did
1:43:461 hour, 43 minutes, 46 secondsnot get put into the budget. It's a it's budget neutral because it's $100,000 and
1:43:521 hour, 43 minutes, 52 secondsI'd like to add that if if there So I'd be look looking for a motion to open up both uh 101 and the nonprofits.
1:44:011 hour, 44 minutes, 1 secondGot a motion by Commissioner Mayberry,
1:44:031 hour, 44 minutes, 3 secondssecond by Commissioner Calott. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. Opposed? eyes have it. [clears throat]
1:44:121 hour, 44 minutes, 12 secondsSo, have you already made those adjustments, Crystal?
1:44:141 hour, 44 minutes, 14 secondsI have not. I just wanted to get permission to make those. Commission GA.
1:44:191 hour, 44 minutes, 19 secondsUh, I'll make the motion that we
1:44:221 hour, 44 minutes, 22 seconds[clears throat]
1:44:241 hour, 44 minutes, 24 secondsnonprofits to add judicial $30,000. I got a motion by Commissioner Kcott,
1:44:331 hour, 44 minutes, 33 secondsseconded by Commissioner Mayberry to add 30K for the 32nd Judicial uh Child
1:44:401 hour, 44 minutes, 40 secondsAdvocacy Center. Um, any discussion on that?
1:44:471 hour, 44 minutes, 47 secondsNot roll call vote. You got it, Ken. Roll call.
1:44:551 hour, 44 minutes, 55 secondsDevin Picker. Yes. Wayne Thomasson. Yes. Matthew Barnhill. Yes. Bob, yes. Chester, yes.
1:45:021 hour, 45 minutes, 2 secondsDanny Clark, [clears throat] yes. Collins, yes. Steve, yes. Jim Haron, yes. Dusty Jordan, yes. Ron Mayberry, yes. Ricky Murray, yes.
1:45:101 hour, 45 minutes, 10 seconds12, yes. 12 yes. Motion carries. Any other adjustments to nonprofit?
1:45:181 hour, 45 minutes, 18 secondsCrystal, do we need a motion on the tax rate?
1:45:211 hour, 45 minutes, 21 secondsUm, we just need to open it up and allow me to uh readjust because it it's going to adjust 101 131 and then of course That was in that motion a while ago,
1:45:341 hour, 45 minutes, 34 secondswasn't it?
1:45:341 hour, 45 minutes, 34 secondsYeah, we already Yeah, we already made a motion to open [clears throat] them both up. So, all we would need to do is have you if you've already ch Have you changed it yet? No, but I will.
1:45:421 hour, 45 minutes, 42 secondsShe'll change it. We can see the numbers and go from there. Then we just look for a motion to approve 101 again.
1:45:501 hour, 45 minutes, 50 secondsAnd the broadband grant and the broadband adjust those. Is that on the revenue side?
1:45:561 hour, 45 minutes, 56 secondsIt's on the revenue and the expenditures. It's going to wash.
1:45:591 hour, 45 minutes, 59 secondsSee, we don't want it on the expenditures. We just want on the revenue.
1:46:351 hour, 46 minutes, 35 secondsThat changes the bottom.
1:46:401 hour, 46 minutes, 40 secondsSo that puts us with a fund balance ending June 30th of 2027 at just shy of 4 mill. [clears throat]
1:46:521 hour, 46 minutes, 52 secondsIs there a motion? I'll make a motion to approve 101. Got a motion by Commissioner Kott, second by Commissioner Mayberry.
1:46:591 hour, 46 minutes, 59 secondsMotion to approve 101 with the adjustments. Any discussion? [clears throat] If not, roll call vote. Ricky Murray,
1:47:071 hour, 47 minutes, 7 secondsyes. Deon Picker. Yes. Wayne Thomasson. Yes. Matthew. Yes. Calif. Yes. Chester. Yes. Andy Clark. Yes. Todd Collins.
1:47:151 hour, 47 minutes, 15 secondsSteve. Yes. Jim Har. Yes. Dusty Jordan. Yes. Yes. So, yes. Motion carries.
1:47:231 hour, 47 minutes, 23 secondsIs there any other business we need to discuss?
1:47:281 hour, 47 minutes, 28 secondsBecause of everything. We're going to have to adjust the schedule. So, I will revise it. Um, so I need to look at it
1:47:351 hour, 47 minutes, 35 secondsagain. I thought I had one, but I I think that I'm not mov. Okay. [clears throat]
1:47:421 hour, 47 minutes, 42 secondsGotcha. Anybody have anything else?
1:47:491 hour, 47 minutes, 49 secondsIf not, [snorts] I'll take a motion to adjourn by Commissioner Picker, second by Commissioner Jordan. All in favor say I.
1:47:581 hour, 47 minutes, 58 secondsAnd sake we