School Board · Special Called Meeting · May 7, 2026
Thu, May 7, 2026
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Call to Order
- The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
- The board met for a special called meeting focused on the school budget after the county rejected the initial budget request.
Approval of Agenda
- A motion and second were made to approve the May 7 meeting agenda.
- The agenda was approved by voice vote.
Budget Discussion
County Rejection and Funding Assumptions
- The board discussed the county's rejection of the initial budget and the possibility of meeting with county officials again the following Monday.
- Members questioned how the county expected the school system to fill budget requirements if the requested funding was reduced.
- The original request included an 8-cent property tax increase, with sales tax assumptions already discussed around $3.6 million.
- The county appeared to consider a 4-cent property tax increase and a $3.3 million sales tax estimate, which board members said would still leave a wider gap than the original request.
- The board emphasized that sales tax estimates do not create guaranteed revenue in the same way as property tax revenue.
Sales Tax and Maintenance of Effort
- Staff explained that the county's version showed an increase in maintenance of effort of roughly $710,000.
- The property tax portion was stated as $335,874.
- Staff said the $3.6 million sales tax figure had already been considered in a realistic "bad scenario" estimate, even though the budgeted number could differ.
- Members discussed possible sales tax estimates of $2.9 million, $3.3 million, $3.6 million, and $4.2 million, but stressed that sales tax collections would ultimately come in at whatever amount the economy produces.
- Staff noted a possible 3% test issue that could require small revenue and expenditure line adjustments before returning to the county commission.
Fund Balance Concerns
- Staff explained that the budget must be covered by fund balance, less the required 3% reserve.
- The current-year fund balance hit was projected somewhere between $1.9 million and $2 million through April, with a conservative estimate of $2.2 million used in the budget document.
- Members asked to present recent history showing estimated versus actual fund balance hits, noting the school system had used fund balance for the last two years.
- A budgeted worst-case scenario showed a $5.3 million revenue shortfall to cover expenditures.
- With an 8-cent increase, the fund balance hit had been reduced to roughly $2.6 million in prior discussion.
- Staff said that if the budget held exactly as written, the estimated ending fund balance could be around $5.013 million, though they did not expect that exact outcome.
- Members discussed that about $3.4 million of fund balance was OPEB money and not usable for regular operations.
- One scenario placed fund balance at about $7 million including OPEB, or about $4 million usable, after a $2 million current-year hit and $2.5 million next-year hit.
- The minimum required reserve was described as 3%, with a rough amount discussed around $1 million to $1.3 million depending on the budgeted amount.
- Members said this left roughly $3 million in working room after accounting for OPEB and the required reserve.
Expenditure Pressures and Staffing
- Members said the district's largest expenditure is personnel, and major reductions would likely mean cutting positions or programs.
- Staff discussed attrition and retention, saying the prior year retention was about 85% and attrition about 15%.
- Licensed staff totaled about 308, and 15% attrition would represent roughly 45 people, though staff indicated current attrition appeared lower.
- The current certified staff departures known at the time were described as minimal, around four or five people.
- Members noted the challenge of retaining staff while enrollment declines, because fewer students may reduce staffing needs even when employees want to stay.
Budget Reduction Scenarios
- Members discussed the director's goal of operating at 90% of the overall budget.
- Staff said a scenario with 90% budget spending, $3.6 million in sales tax, and a 4-cent property tax increase would still draw about $1.1 million to $1.2 million from fund balance.
- Staff noted property tax collections might come in above the budgeted amount because collections could approach 100%, while the budget assumes 93%.
- Members suggested presenting simple scenarios to the county showing that even with a 10% spending reduction, a strong sales tax year, and a 4-cent increase, the district would still be in the negative.
- The board also discussed showing scenarios for both 4-cent and 8-cent increases.
Capital Outlay and Long-Term Facilities
Building and Roof Needs
- Members discussed long-term capital needs, including the high school, which was described as 18 years old and approaching a 20-year roof cycle.
- Members referenced a prior 5-year facilities plan from around 2018 or 2019 and said it should be updated for current building needs.
- Maintenance records and a prior plan were said to exist but still needed updating.
- Members noted that roof, HVAC, and other building systems can become expensive quickly.
Buses
- The board discussed bus replacement needs.
- Staff said maintaining a pace of one bus per year for the next couple of years would keep the district where it needs to be.
- A bus was estimated around $140,000 to $150,000.
- Later in the meeting, staff noted that the current budget included only one bus and that bus revenue had not yet been added.
Wastewater Treatment Plant
- Members discussed the treatment plant serving three schools at East Hickman.
- The system was described as about 30-plus years old, installed around 1992 or 1993.
- A prior system was said to have lasted about 30 years.
- A past estimate to replace or rework the system was stated as roughly $20 million to $25 million, and members noted that cost could increase substantially over time.
- Members discussed that setting aside $1 million per year for 20 years would still likely not cover the future cost if prices rise.
Capital Project Funding
- Members discussed whether the county might fund capital projects separately from the operating budget.
- Capital projects were discussed as historically averaging roughly $1 million per year, with examples in the $700,000 to $1.2 million range.
- A capital project list of about $400,000 had already been presented.
- Members discussed whether a wheel tax could support capital projects, including a possible $50 additional wheel tax, but no decision was made on that issue.
- Members also referenced possible TSBA-related efforts to allow school boards to place funds in interest-bearing accounts for capital improvements, though that had not yet passed.
Food Service Fund Balance
- Members discussed approximately $500,000 in cafeteria funds used for cash flow.
- Staff said the budget had included the possibility of food service fund balance dropping below $500,000, with an estimate around $450,000.
- Staff said current trends suggested the district might not drop below $500,000, depending on the next month and a half.
Revenue Ideas and Energy Savings
- Members discussed an online program as a possible future revenue source.
- Staff clarified that revenue from new online students would lag by a year, so students added in the next budget year would generate revenue in fiscal year 2028 / 2027-28.
- A hypothetical example of 20 added students was discussed, but staff said there was not yet a realistic expectation because the process had not begun.
- Members discussed whether energy-savings contracts could reduce costs.
- Staff described prior HVAC and lighting projects, including an LED lighting project through TVA with a roughly $1.1 million interest-free loan and an expected energy usage reduction of about 20%.
- Staff said similar savings efforts had been done before, though savings depended on continued monitoring of HVAC and temperature settings.
Strategy for Returning to the County
- Members debated whether to return to the county asking again for 8 cents, accept the apparent 4-cent increase, or consider an intermediate request such as 6 cents.
- Staff estimated that two additional cents would add about $166,000, while another comment estimated a 6-cent option might add roughly $200,000 over the 4-cent level.
- Members worried that pushing again for 8 cents could risk losing the 4-cent increase the county seemed willing to support.
- Several members favored accepting the 4 cents, explaining the fund balance situation clearly, asking for the capital outlay list separately, and working toward better communication and a stronger budget relationship for the following year.
- Members discussed presenting information in simpler formats, such as graphics and scenarios, instead of heavy spreadsheets.
Motions and Votes
Budget Direction Motion
- A motion was made to send the director back with the budget adjusted to the 4-cent property tax increase and to ask for the capital improvement projects on the previously presented list.
- Members agreed not to increase the capital outlay request beyond the list already presented.
- The motion was seconded.
Amendment to Include Line Item Adjustments
- Staff asked for the motion to include revenue and expenditure line item adjustments.
- The adjustments were described as decreasing expenditures by roughly $360,000 and increasing revenues by roughly $310,000, for a net gain described as almost $500,000.
- The amendment was made and seconded.
- The final motion was understood to include the 4-cent increase, the capital outlays, and the line item amendments.
- Roll call vote: Miss Herren, yes; Miss Taylor, yes; Mr. Tidwell, yes; Mr. Hobs, yes.
- The motion passed 4-0.
Other Business
- No other business was raised.
Adjournment
- A motion and second were made to adjourn.
- The meeting adjourned by voice vote.
Key figures and statistics
| Figure | Type | Context / topic |
|---|---|---|
| May 7, 2026 | Date | Special called board meeting |
| 8 cents | Rate | Original property tax increase requested by the board |
| 4 cents | Rate | County's apparent property tax increase proposal and final board direction |
| 6 cents | Rate | Possible compromise property tax increase discussed |
| 2 additional cents | Rate | Difference between 4-cent and 6-cent scenarios |
| $166,000 | Dollar amount | Estimated value of two additional property tax cents |
| $200,000 | Dollar amount | Approximate added value discussed for a 6-cent scenario |
| $2.9 million | Dollar amount | Sales tax estimate referenced from an earlier no-property-tax-increase scenario |
| $3.3 million | Dollar amount | County sales tax estimate discussed |
| $3.6 million | Dollar amount | Sales tax estimate used in board/staff realistic scenario |
| $4.2 million | Dollar amount | Higher sales tax budget estimate discussed as possible but not guaranteed |
| $710,000 | Dollar amount | Approximate increase in maintenance of effort |
| $335,874 | Dollar amount | Property tax portion of maintenance of effort discussion |
| $1,500 | Dollar amount | Approximate increase mentioned from penny-rate changes |
| $2,500 | Dollar amount | Approximate increase later confirmed from penny-rate changes |
| 3% | Percentage | Fund balance reserve/test requirement |
| $1.9 million to $2 million | Dollar amount | Current-year fund balance hit projected through April |
| $2.2 million | Dollar amount | Conservative current-year fund balance hit estimate used in budget |
| 2 years | Count | Number of recent years the district had hit fund balance |
| 25% | Percentage | Earlier fund balance goal mentioned |
| $5.3 million | Dollar amount | Budgeted worst-case revenue/expenditure gap requiring fund balance |
| $2.6 million | Dollar amount | Approximate fund balance hit after 8-cent scenario in prior discussion |
| $5.013 million | Dollar amount | Estimated ending fund balance if budget held as written, as heard |
| $3.4 million | Dollar amount | OPEB portion of fund balance discussed |
| $2.5 million | Dollar amount | Possible next-year fund balance hit in one scenario |
| $7 million | Dollar amount | Fund balance including OPEB in one scenario |
| $4 million | Dollar amount | Usable fund balance excluding OPEB in one scenario |
| $1 million to $1.3 million | Dollar amount | Rough required minimum reserve range discussed |
| $3 million | Dollar amount | Approximate remaining working room after OPEB and reserve |
| 85% | Percentage | Prior-year staff retention figure stated |
| 15% | Percentage | Attrition figure discussed |
| 308 | Count | Approximate total licensed staff |
| 45 people | Count | Approximate number represented by 15% attrition of licensed staff, as discussed |
| 4 or 5 people | Count | Current known certified staff departures described as minimal |
| 18 years old | Other | Age of East Hickman High School building discussed |
| 20 years | Other | Roof cycle / future planning period discussed |
| 5-year plan | Other | Prior facilities planning framework |
| 2018 or 2019 | Date | Approximate date of prior facilities plan |
| 1 bus per year | Count | Desired bus replacement pace |
| $140,000 to $150,000 | Dollar amount | Estimated cost of a bus |
| 3 schools | Count | Schools served by East treatment plant |
| 1992 or 1993 | Date | Approximate treatment plant installation period |
| 30-plus years | Other | Approximate age of treatment plant |
| 30 years | Other | Lifespan of earlier treatment plant referenced |
| $20 million to $25 million | Dollar amount | Past estimate to replace or rework treatment plant, as heard |
| $1 million per year | Dollar amount | Hypothetical amount to set aside for future treatment plant replacement |
| $8 million | Dollar amount | Approximate past high school roof/HVAC rework cost mentioned |
| $1 million per year | Dollar amount | Historical average capital projects level discussed |
| $700,000 to $1.2 million | Dollar amount | Historical capital project range discussed |
| $400,000 | Dollar amount | Capital project list already presented |
| $50 | Dollar amount | Possible additional wheel tax discussed for capital projects |
| $500,000 | Dollar amount | Cafeteria fund balance / cash flow amount discussed |
| $450,000 | Dollar amount | Food service fund balance estimate in budget |
| 90% | Percentage | Director's budget spending goal discussed |
| $300,000 | Dollar amount | Additional sales tax revenue adjustment discussed in 90% scenario |
| $1.1 million to $1.2 million | Dollar amount | Fund balance hit under 90% budget, $3.6 million sales tax, and 4-cent increase scenario |
| 93% | Percentage | Property tax collection rate used for budgeting |
| 100% | Percentage | Approximate property tax collection level that could occur |
| 10% | Percentage | Budget reduction scenario discussed |
| 70-plus percent | Percentage | Approximate share of budget described as salary |
| 20 students | Count | Hypothetical online program enrollment increase |
| Fiscal year 2028 / 2027-28 | Date | Timing when online program revenue would arrive |
| $164,000 | Dollar amount | Debt service/light upgrade payment previously covered by county |
| $1 million | Dollar amount | Hypothetical annual light bill in energy-savings example |
| $200,000 | Dollar amount | Hypothetical reduced annual light bill in energy-savings example |
| $800,000 | Dollar amount | Hypothetical energy savings in example |
| $400,000 | Dollar amount | Hypothetical savings share retained by vendor and district in example |
| $1.1 million | Dollar amount | TVA LED lighting interest-free loan |
| 20% | Percentage | Expected energy usage reduction from lighting project |
| $360,000 | Dollar amount | Approximate expenditure decrease in final amendment |
| $310,000 | Dollar amount | Approximate revenue increase in final amendment |
| Almost $500,000 | Dollar amount | Net gain from amendment, as described |
| 1 bus | Count | Number of buses currently in budget |
| 4-0 | Count | Roll call vote approving final budget direction |
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HCBOE May 7th, 2026 Special Called Board Meeting
13:1513 minutes, 15 secondsThank you. Pledge allegiance.
13:2013 minutes, 20 secondsI aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under
13:2913 minutes, 29 secondsGod, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
13:3413 minutes, 34 secondsAll right. You have motion to approve the agenda from today's meeting, May 7th. I'll make that motion. Have a second.
13:4113 minutes, 41 secondsSecond.
13:4213 minutes, 42 secondsMotion second. All in favor item. I first topic only topic item is the budget.
13:5113 minutes, 51 secondsUh we just got back from county court which rejected our initial budget and uh we scheduled to meet with him maybe Monday again.
14:0014 minutesWe we we can we can we can delay that if we need to if we in one way since it's only four of us
14:0814 minutes, 8 secondshere rush to do it but uh we can discuss it and talk about it and you know come up with some ideas uh how we're going to handle
14:1614 minutes, 16 secondsthis. But uh I I don't understand uh where they think that money is going to come from to fill those requirements.
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsAnd uh I don't know if the what they're what they want. They won't give us more sales apparently,
14:3714 minutes, 37 secondsbut that's kind of again that's a shot in the dark. But the one thing that it seemed like well they wanted to see what
14:4514 minutes, 45 seconds3.3 looked like but we already told them the 8 cents that we are requesting already has 3.6 built into it. Correct.
14:5714 minutes, 57 secondsI'm confused on the question.
15:0115 minutes, 1 secondIt's not. It's because I've looked at numerous numbers and I'm just so I think what what here Okay, here's what I'm
15:0815 minutes, 8 secondssaying. We walked in and said in a roundabout way, we didn't directly say this, but say we we estimated the
15:1515 minutes, 15 secondssales tax dollars at 3.6 and we're requesting eight to fill a gap. Mhm.
15:2115 minutes, 21 secondsBut now they're kicking it back and saying, "Well, we want to see it at three.3." Everyone's saying, "Talk about four."
15:2915 minutes, 29 secondsYes. Right. So the gap is even wider. Yeah.
15:3315 minutes, 33 secondsThan what we were requesting cuz our request is based on 3.6. 6 mill on the sales tax.
15:4015 minutes, 40 secondsYeah, that was that was estimating kind of where we sales tax might be next year at 3.6. Yes.
15:4915 minutes, 49 secondsSo really or maybe even higher than that to be honest with you, but yes. And so I I think that's a Yeah, that's a valid
15:5715 minutes, 57 secondsstatement as how you said it. I was getting confused on which 3.6 we were talking about that estimate of hitting fund balance 3.6 6
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondsfrom the original thing we presented that one night with no property tax increase. And so that's why I was confused.
16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsSo I thought that is that had the sales tax at 2.9.
16:1816 minutes, 18 secondsH I thought that had the two the sales tax at 2.9. It did.
16:2316 minutes, 23 secondsWhat they went in and did tonight was increase and then increase the
16:3216 minutes, 32 secondsum sales tax budget 3.3 to 3.3 cut 4 cents out of what we submitted
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondsbased off what you all said the other night. I put 8 cents in what we sent to them. And so then that's how they came
16:4716 minutes, 47 secondsin with the increase of maintenance of effort. Um at a certain amount and um
16:5716 minutes, 57 secondsyou are getting an increase in property tax at 4 cents if that was where you
17:0317 minutes, 3 secondswould go. Um, but you're correct in your in your statement that when I gave you
17:1117 minutes, 11 secondsguys a reasonable estimate of what could be a unless things get nuttier than what we think
17:2017 minutes, 20 secondsthat I was using about a 3.6 6 million cell
17:2617 minutes, 26 secondssales tax revenue dollar in that not for the budgeted number but that other number that I give you and say this is
17:3417 minutes, 34 secondsmore than likely where we would be in a bad scenario not the worst scenario but a bad scenario that we would try and work down from. So yes, correct.
17:4617 minutes, 46 secondsAre you going to share that? Uh we will try. I've got to get it up.
17:5017 minutes, 50 secondsAnd so I want to see if she sent me that yet.
17:5717 minutes, 57 secondsAnd I don't understand why he's doing that. Let's just look down the future a little bit to uh capital
18:0618 minutes, 6 secondsoutlays. Um that's the topic that we're going to do this year. And then like they kept saying, "What about next year?
18:1318 minutes, 13 secondsWhat about next year?" We're looking down at the high school, East High School. It's 18 years old.
18:2018 minutes, 20 secondsIn 20 years is the roof. We've already had to replace the roof on a gym, you know, is an expense. Uh what about the rest of the building?
18:2918 minutes, 29 secondsLike the roof on it. So, where are we going to come up with that money? You know, come back with them with a
18:3618 minutes, 36 secondsseveral million dollars worth on the roof. Well, so when I was on the board before,
18:4218 minutes, 42 secondsyou remember we went through all the buildings and we had a we had a plan of what we
18:5018 minutes, 50 secondswanted to see in those buildings coming down the pike and it I guess it was a 5-year plan.
18:5618 minutes, 56 secondsWe need to do that again. I mean, we have a new director schools. A lot of time has passed since that was done
19:0219 minutes, 2 secondsbecause we did that what 2019 18 or 19 somewhere in that day.
19:0919 minutes, 9 secondsSo it's probably time for a reevaluation of those buildings what what they all need coming down the pike.
19:1719 minutes, 17 secondsI come on in when I came on we had started putting roofs on all the buildings but we also had just built the high school.
19:2419 minutes, 24 secondsThe high school right? So those buildings are following behind us several years. Uh but we still got to look at the high school.
19:3319 minutes, 33 secondsBut I believe they're I believe they are receptive to a plan like that.
19:3819 minutes, 38 secondsYeah. Do we have a history a logged history of what we did and when an expected timeline almost like a
19:4719 minutes, 47 secondsWe had one previously. Yeah, we have one that is still out there. I don't know how it could be today. it is. But we've been
19:5519 minutes, 55 secondsworking on trying to get it maintenance kept that file and stuff and you know we've been trying to update that file.
20:0420 minutes, 4 secondsWe just haven't final finished it yet but yes it's there to look at and start from scratch.
20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsWe won't restart this. It's having problems. I apologize.
20:2020 minutes, 20 secondsSteven's back there. Buses. What are we looking for in the future on buses?
20:2620 minutes, 26 secondsI'm getting us just, you know, give me a a guess. I know we're going to be behind since we've only got where we are need to be.
20:3520 minutes, 35 secondsI mean, if we can maintain a one a year for the next couple of years,
20:4220 minutes, 42 secondsthat would that would keep us where we need to be. This $140,000 150 $150. Yeah.
20:5720 minutes, 57 secondsAnd we never know what makes this going to happen. I mean, roof's one thing, but you know, we've already had some air conditioning, heating problems,
21:0521 minutes, 5 secondsand that's, you know, that can get very expensive very quick depending on how big the unit is. Most of those units have been needed replaced, but there's
21:1421 minutes, 14 secondsno guarantee on those things much after 2 or 3 years.
21:3721 minutes, 37 secondsThe awkward silence you guys are waiting on me is still spinning. So,
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondswell, so to bring up something else that ever since you said it, it's kind of in the back of my mind was the treatment
21:4921 minutes, 49 secondsplant at the three schools at East cuz that thing is nearing what 30 plus years old.
21:5721 minutes, 57 secondsThey were put in when the middle school was put in and that was 93 902 93 four
22:0522 minutes, 5 secondslet's see 90 to 93.
22:0922 minutes, 9 secondsYeah. So we're 30 some years old and the first ones lasted we took it out was for 30 years. The what?
22:1622 minutes, 16 secondsWe took the first set out when it was 30 years behind Hill Elementary School. Oh,
22:2022 minutes, 20 secondsit lasted 30 years and we put the middle school and then put a new system in, but it had to be bigger to handle the middle school with an additional if we needed
22:2822 minutes, 28 secondsit. That's where the intermediate school comes from. So we got three schools going into that one. And when the last time I asked somebody in that kind of
22:3622 minutes, 36 secondsbusiness, they said anywhere from 20 24 $25 million and that was a while back.
22:4222 minutes, 42 secondsSo to tear it out and replace it, you know what it cost to rework is it again parts
22:5022 minutes, 50 secondsfor that thing now. You know, they have to make everything. We need something.
22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsI mean, so say that thing has a 50-year lifespan. We're 20 years out for something that's going to cost more than $20 million. I mean, if we were going to
23:0323 minutes, 3 secondspay cash, it would be nice set sitting aside a million dollars a year. Yeah.
23:0723 minutes, 7 secondsThat's 20 years that would still, you know, it's going to be double that price in 20 years.
23:1223 minutes, 12 secondsThat would basically that be something that would fall back on the county. Yeah.
23:1623 minutes, 16 secondsYeah. Just like the reworking of all the high school roofs and air conditioning systems few years ago. It cost more than the original building did to redo that.
23:3023 minutes, 30 secondsWhat was 8 million? something like that.
23:3923 minutes, 39 secondsWe ran into this the other day, you remember?
23:5223 minutes, 52 secondsYeah.
24:1324 minutes, 13 secondsYou know,
24:1824 minutes, 18 secondsI think for some reason there it is.
24:2624 minutes, 26 secondsperiod.
24:2724 minutes, 27 secondsUh so this does not have anything in it that Crystal put up there today uh as
24:3424 minutes, 34 secondsfar as the changes the numbers that she put in. So I think
24:4224 minutes, 42 secondsuh there is this is the certified tax rate that is um
24:4924 minutes, 49 secondsabout 20
24:5724 minutes, 57 secondssee I can't even do basic math anymore which is pretty bad. um 91
25:0425 minutes, 4 secondsalmost $222 less per penny which is not a
25:1225 minutes, 12 secondssignificant amount but the change in the base rate what we had on this
25:1925 minutes, 19 secondsoriginally was 283647 and so it's 2838975.
25:2625 minutes, 26 secondsSo the penny rate increased,
25:3025 minutes, 30 secondsthe net penny decreased, but our portion of the rate increased to 3381. So that's why there's a slight
25:3925 minutes, 39 secondsin slight increase of
25:4525 minutes, 45 seconds$1,500 or so in there or $2,500 uh from what we had on the budget.
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondsYeah. 2500.
25:5725 minutes, 57 secondsSo what? Well, now this does have she this does include what she put in there.
26:0326 minutes, 3 secondsI take it back. So she did put the four cents in there. She sent this over that way. You got to do all your updates up top.
26:1026 minutes, 10 secondsOh, thank you. So my mouse is not working.
26:3126 minutes, 31 secondsYour mouse is working. It's just not click. It's not It's not clicking. No, sir. But your mouse is working. Yeah, but the click isn't happening.
26:4426 minutes, 44 secondsIt may make you update first before it let you do the Do we need to put a mouse in the budget for you?
26:5026 minutes, 50 secondsI don't think it's mouse cuz mouse and the queue have worked all week. So or have worked all year close.
27:0027 minutesHe's got two errors at the top with a protected view and it updates available. Do you see?
27:0627 minutes, 6 secondsBut it won't allow me to and it's not allowing him to click on those. Let me shut this down again and then I'm going to download.
27:1527 minutes, 15 secondsHe doesn't give you a chance. No, I ain't g.
27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsSo, here they are. Craig, let's see if it works this time. Yeah, okay. It worked that time.
27:2927 minutes, 29 secondsYou just It's just because Craig got it.
27:3427 minutes, 34 secondsOkay. So, she has included those updates in there.
27:3827 minutes, 38 secondsUm what they are showing is that ends up being an increase to maintenance of
27:4527 minutes, 45 secondseffort uh $710,000
27:4927 minutes, 49 secondsroughly. Um what it is in relation to
27:5827 minutes, 58 secondsproperty tax is $335,000 874. Um,
28:0928 minutes, 9 secondshard to explain, hard to understand,
28:1328 minutes, 13 secondsbut we have already estimated in what we gave you all, not in the budget, but in
28:2228 minutes, 22 secondsthat number that we said, okay, this is the budget. This is where we expect in a bad scenario.
28:3328 minutes, 33 secondsUm and so we did take into account about 3.6 in
28:4228 minutes, 42 secondssales tax dollars coming in. So this
28:4928 minutes, 49 seconds7010 increase in maintenance of effort is not an actual revenue increase in
28:5628 minutes, 56 secondswhat I have used to estimate what we would have potentially in a real world situation hit fund
29:0429 minutes, 4 secondsbalance at um that's where that discussion about sales tax yes I would I would love
29:1429 minutes, 14 secondsto budget it at 3.6 next year.
29:2029 minutes, 20 secondsWe could budget it at 4.2. I would love to budget at 4.2. Doesn't mean we're going to get 4.2, right?
29:2629 minutes, 26 secondsDoesn't mean we're going to get 3.6. It and uh Mr. Calott uh acknowledged that. So
29:3629 minutes, 36 secondsjust want you to be aware that even though maintenance of effort is increased at 710
29:4329 minutes, 43 secondsas far as our estimates on things that 3.6 was already thought about and
29:5329 minutes, 53 secondslooked at in what we were telling you was a more realistic bad scenario
29:5929 minutes, 59 secondsthat we would hit with. And so I think when we added the six eight cents back in, we gotten that down to like 2.6 or
30:0830 minutes, 8 secondssomething. Don't get me right on the number, but somewhere around in there. So it doesn't mean that
30:1630 minutes, 16 secondswe weren't working to get it to run that because we've been discussing several things. Um so but that's the just the understanding of that aspect of it.
30:2930 minutes, 29 secondsBefore we do, before you guys talk, if we do,
30:3630 minutes, 36 secondsthere are some adjustments, some small adjustments that I was going to want to make to some other revenue line items
30:4330 minutes, 43 secondsand some other expenditure line items cuz I was a little bit concerned about
30:5030 minutes, 50 secondswhen we reported about um I don't think it was going to be a problem, but there could have been a 3%
30:5830 minutes, 58 seconds% test that we might not meet and so I need to do a little bit of adjustment on those whether that's tonight or at
31:0731 minutes, 7 secondsanother time u before we go back to the county commission it will not impact any of this local revenue so it shouldn't be
31:1631 minutes, 16 secondsanything on their part that and I've went over those uh with this tip today and what my concern was and what I felt
31:2431 minutes, 24 secondslike we need to So, can we go to the bottom line?
31:4631 minutes, 46 secondsSo the bottom line in this uh if you look there so we're looking at the
31:5231 minutes, 52 secondsestimate column uh this was the original budget for 2026 any amendments that we
32:0032 minutesdid what we have to do is make an estimate of what will hit fund balance
32:0632 minutes, 6 secondsso what I ended up putting in this uh because I like to be on the conservative
32:1332 minutes, 13 secondsside. I've told you right now through April we're projecting somewhere between
32:2032 minutes, 20 seconds1.9 and two. I hope it's lower than that. I initially put a 2.2 in this um
32:2932 minutes, 29 secondsbecause there are some uh you know some concerns that it it
32:3532 minutes, 35 secondscould be higher. Um, but that is just a budgeted number. It again, it's
32:4332 minutes, 43 secondssomething that has to be in there for the budget as to what we estimate our hit to fund balance would be and what our
32:5232 minutes, 52 secondsfund balance amount would be because your budget has to be covered by fund balance less 3% of fund balance if that makes sense.
33:0233 minutes, 2 secondsSo, how many years have we hit fund into our fund balance? We've hit the last two years.
33:0733 minutes, 7 secondsCan we present that next time? Two years ago we hit our fund balance by this.
33:1333 minutes, 13 secondsLast year we hit our fund balance by this. And maybe give them we estimated this and we hit it with this.
33:1833 minutes, 18 secondsAnd this last year we estimated this and we hit it with this. This year we're estimating this and this is where we're going. I mean it's a downward trajectory.
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondsI mean I think they need to know that that we're actually hitting fund balance every single year.
33:3333 minutes, 33 secondsYeah. I I had lots of other thing that included um the information that Mike presented in terms of we wanted to get
33:4133 minutes, 41 secondsback to 25% you know originally um how um the gentleman that was
33:4933 minutes, 49 secondsstanding there and presented before uh in the first three minute minutes and talked about that report um I had that to mention I didn't mention any of that
33:5833 minutes, 58 secondsstuff because I wanted to see where they would come in before having to mention any of that stuff. That was my thinking behind it. Yeah.
34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsBut now that I mean I think they would kind of because in my conversations with several of them, they really don't
34:1534 minutes, 15 secondscomprehend that we are hitting on our way to debt. We're spending out of our savings account every single year.
34:2234 minutes, 22 secondsAnd that oped money is in there, right? Yes, that oped money is in there.
34:2934 minutes, 29 secondsAnd they have to be reminded of that in point of view. And so what happens with the oped, it does not count
34:3734 minutes, 37 secondsit on that 3% test, the dollars that it's looking at, the oped is pulled out and so it only looks at your
34:4534 minutes, 45 secondsunrestricted uh fund balance.
34:4834 minutes, 48 secondsBut that was in that but it is in that. Yes, ma'am. Exactly. Yes.
34:5334 minutes, 53 secondsAnd can we at least put another line item list and say usable operating usable? This is the budget that goes before them that goes in their book.
35:0435 minutes, 4 secondsThis is how the budget is presented to them and the line items that they have.
35:1135 minutes, 11 secondsBut we can't add another line and say really what you need to be looking at is this.
35:1435 minutes, 14 secondsNo, but we can we we can provide that information.
35:1935 minutes, 19 secondsum that basically said every year. I mean
35:2735 minutes, 27 secondsthey they've listened to enough enough of our stuff that they know OPED's in there. I'm not saying we don't point it out. I do.
35:3435 minutes, 34 secondsWell, I think if you do calculations that may not uh but if you notice they were never looking at the bottom number
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsand and that there they have set in their mind whatever it is and again I've said not
35:5035 minutes, 50 secondsat the county level I've sat at the city level they have something set in their mind and
35:5835 minutes, 58 secondsnot saying that it can't change. Um I I I felt like it was a very good strong presentation.
36:0636 minutes, 6 secondsUh it highlighted the improvements that we have done in the school. Um it
36:1436 minutes, 14 secondswithout going into detail, it highlighted things that we have been talking about but um and
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondsum so the the presentation was was was strong. Um, hearing Mr. Kakott
36:3436 minutes, 34 secondssaying he finally understands that point of increasing sales tax doesn't really increase the revenues. And it is hard to
36:4236 minutes, 42 secondsexplain. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it any other way than I explain it and I even confuse myself when I explain it and I understand it.
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsBut it is hard to explain. It
36:5836 minutes, 58 secondssales property tax is a true budgeted number that impacts your revenues. Sales tax does not impact your revenues.
37:0937 minutes, 9 secondsIt impacts a budget number, but it does not impact your revenues.
37:1437 minutes, 14 secondsUm because it's going to come in at whatever it comes in at.
37:2137 minutes, 21 secondsAnd um but can you explain the difference between
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsthose two bottom lines? July 1 and June June 30.
37:3837 minutes, 38 secondsWhich ones? The last two lines.
37:4137 minutes, 41 secondsOh, okay. July one would be your beginning fund balance for the year.
37:4737 minutes, 47 secondsOkay. And so this is and then the bottom would be
37:5337 minutes, 53 secondsfund balance with this underestimated that would be your year ending estimated fund balance.
38:0138 minutes, 1 secondOh that' be June 30 of 27 right? Well,
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsthis is Yeah, these here are for under this estimate is this this 5.3 million
38:1338 minutes, 13 secondsis what the budgeted number is for revenues less expenditures or 5.3 million less of
38:2338 minutes, 23 secondsrevenues or yeah to cover our expenditures. Again, that's a budgeted worst case scenario allows us to address
38:3138 minutes, 31 secondssome things. we had gotten that number down with the 8 cents to be like 2.6 or something like that
38:3938 minutes, 39 secondsu where we would still try and get below. So then what it does is this
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondsestimate comes from me based off of that 2.2 just an estimate for this year of possibly hitting fund balance this year
38:5438 minutes, 54 seconds2.2 to I think it's going to be lower. I hope it's much lower. Um
39:0239 minutes, 2 secondsbut so that comes there and then it says okay so at the end of next year if this budget holds true on revenue and
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondsexpenditures you're only going to have 5 or5 million 13,59 of fund balance.
39:2039 minutes, 20 secondsThat's not what's going to happen.
39:2239 minutes, 22 secondsOkay. And that's why we lay out that other number for you. But if that was to happen, you know, right now the 3.4 of that is open.
39:3539 minutes, 35 secondsBut that is not going to happen. Do I think it will be at um well just based off of if we're two
39:4539 minutes, 45 secondsthis year and we're 2.5 next year um you're
39:5439 minutes, 54 secondssitting at seven with OPED with OP. So it's four usable. Yeah.
40:0040 minutesAnd what's the minimum?
40:0440 minutes, 4 secondsYou have to you have to have 3%. But it looks at budget at the start of the
40:1140 minutes, 11 secondsyear. So our lines will have to be a lot tighter in our budgeted lines
40:1940 minutes, 19 secondsbecause we can't have as much cushion to address things. So there would be the possibility
40:2540 minutes, 25 secondsthat we would have to not budget for some expected stuff and
40:3440 minutes, 34 secondsthen go back before the commission if those expected stuff hit 1.2 is it roughly one between one and 1.2?
40:4240 minutes, 42 secondsYeah, I think when we looked at the other day based off of this one it's about 1.3. So it would be somewhere
40:4940 minutes, 49 secondsin that. Yeah, but it it it's really whatever that budgeted number is. So if we make that tighter and smaller, then it's just 3% of that.
40:5940 minutes, 59 secondsI mean, it's not going to change.
41:0041 minutesYeah, it's not somewhere around a million. Yeah.
41:0441 minutes, 4 secondsSo seven minus the OPED, we're at four minus the one that we have to keep in there, we're at three. Wiggle room. Mhm.
41:1841 minutes, 18 secondsWell, in another year of that and we're what do you do? Yeah.
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondsNow there are things that's been discussed to and
41:3441 minutes, 34 secondsI'll let you talk about that and I don't know but there's things that we have been discussing for a while and then we
41:4341 minutes, 43 secondshave been discussing over the last two weeks bouncing thoughts off about how to address some of those. She spoke to some
41:5041 minutes, 50 secondsof those tonight without going into detail to them, telling them that we're looking at things
41:5741 minutes, 57 secondsum in terms of increasing revenue or also reducing expenses expenses
42:0642 minutes, 6 secondsincreasing revenues and and expenditures.
42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsUm and uh so you did you did speak to some of that without going into detail but um
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondsyeah so our biggest expenditures is people
42:2542 minutes, 25 secondsand the only way to get you know other stuff we're not talking about major dollars we're talking about small
42:3242 minutes, 32 secondsdollars employees is where you know we we're coming in with the largest amount and if we try to reduce that and that
42:4042 minutes, 40 secondsmeans cutting positions, cutting places and uh when you start cutting then it's
42:4842 minutes, 48 secondsuh you may not when you get ready you may not be able to find the same people you had before.
42:5442 minutes, 54 secondsWe've done that. We had a year that we dropped some classes and people that
43:0343 minutes, 3 secondsSo, what is the typical attrition rate every year? Um, this past year was 85%.
43:1143 minutes, 11 secondsThat that was really good. Oh, attrition. Sorry. Um I'm Yeah, 15. Yeah.
43:1843 minutes, 18 secondsSo, what does that translate to?
43:2343 minutes, 23 secondsYou also need like whoa.
43:2643 minutes, 26 secondsSo what is that number of people in terms of number of people?
43:3243 minutes, 32 secondsIf you're just looking at licensed staff and if it was 15% licensed staff, we have about 308 total licensed staff. So
43:4043 minutes, 40 seconds45% of that that's but I think probably it probably wasn't quite that high on you remember
43:4843 minutes, 48 secondslast year on our attrition off the top of my head. Yeah.
43:5343 minutes, 53 secondsI know that this year it wasn't quite that high on certain it was this year's been better than Yeah.
43:5843 minutes, 58 secondsIt just increasing every year we've lo we've retained more people.
44:0344 minutes, 3 secondsYeah. And we have not had what we're projecting projecting as far as people
44:1044 minutes, 10 secondstelling us they're leaving is not uh it it's minimal. When I say minimal,
44:1944 minutes, 19 secondsit's certified staff. It's I don't four or five maybe. Those are people who are moving
44:2844 minutes, 28 secondsbecause of spouse jobs or whatever.
44:3244 minutes, 32 secondsAnd not all the jobs are jobs that you can just fill from another position and not do another position. So is that abnormal?
44:4044 minutes, 40 secondsDo you typically know at this time or is that just normal?
44:4344 minutes, 43 secondsWhat do you mean know that people are leaving?
44:4544 minutes, 45 secondsYeah, people are typically turning in they fill out so they fill out a document and send it in and so we know that piece of it and then we have
44:5244 minutes, 52 secondsreelection sheets that are coming in from principles. So, we're pretty aware of who's going to retire, who has said right now that they're going to move on.
45:0145 minutes, 1 secondUm, and this is I mean it it's been such a healthy year.
45:0545 minutes, 5 secondsSo, for the most part, the last two or three weeks of school, you got an idea of who's barring some last.
45:1145 minutes, 11 secondsWell, we have an estimate of that before then and that's why we know some of this that there wasn't as much possible
45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsattrition. Now what happens in June and July? Someone can say that they're not leaving but
45:2845 minutes, 28 secondsthen someone reach out to them from another place and they go and then what was it? So
45:3545 minutes, 35 secondsit's only an estimate. It's only what you know what they're planning on doing at that given point in time. Um but
45:4545 minutes, 45 secondsthings change in June and July and sometimes in August. So true.
45:5245 minutes, 52 secondsBut this time last year compared there's there's less than what we've seen the
45:5945 minutes, 59 secondsyear before too. So you're looking at it and it's just it's a good recruit. I mean it's it's a nice retention. So So we got a good thing going.
46:0746 minutes, 7 secondsYes.
46:0846 minutes, 8 secondsSchools are going in the right direction. Correct. We have staff wanting to stay.
46:1146 minutes, 11 secondsCorrect. Now we get a swift kick in the butt.
46:1746 minutes, 17 secondsI think the point that they make is, you know, we as we lose students and then
46:2446 minutes, 24 secondswe, you know, we have those people who want to stay, but then we don't really have it, maybe we lose a teacher because
46:3146 minutes, 31 secondswe don't have as many kids. Um, so you know that's a difficult position to be in because all of especially all of our
46:3946 minutes, 39 secondscertified staff and all the people that have been there, we want to continue to be able to place them in areas that when no one's leaving but kids are leaving,
46:4946 minutes, 49 secondsthen you've got a dilemma. Yeah.
46:5146 minutes, 51 secondsSo I feel like I'm dominating conversation. Anybody else got anything?
47:0147 minutes, 1 secondHelp yourself.
47:1447 minutes, 14 secondsSo what do you actually think sales tax will be June 30th?
47:2447 minutes, 24 secondsSales tax for this year. Yeah. The the estimate I have is 3.6.
47:3347 minutes, 33 secondsOkay.
47:3447 minutes, 34 secondsCrystal doesn't have it that so I'll default to hers. Um it was hers around that 3.3.
47:4647 minutes, 46 secondsUh she said she hadn't fully calculated it yet and so but she threw out a numbers a little bit about 3.3. But yeah.
48:4048 minutes, 40 secondsI mean I I want to believe in this online program to generate some some revenue.
48:4848 minutes, 48 secondsNow just a reminder on that that's going to be a year behind. So the revenues would not be in 2027, they would be in
48:5648 minutes, 56 seconds2028. So if we added our next budget year,
48:5948 minutes, 59 secondsyeah, let's just say we added 20 people in that um those revenues tied to those 20 people would come in 2028
49:0849 minutes, 8 secondsfiscal year 2028 or 2728 2728. So I said,
49:1949 minutes, 19 secondsdo we know a realistic expectation there? I don't think there's any way of knowing. Not yet anyway. We haven't even started the process of calling it. So I don't know.
49:3449 minutes, 34 secondsBut that's a that is a pre they have those numbers reported in the state,
49:3949 minutes, 39 secondsright? Who is in in your county that's homeschooled? Yes, that is that is recorded. It is.
49:4649 minutes, 46 secondsYep. the the students that are enrolled in a private school versus the ones that are either independently registered or um doing a homeschool private school.
50:0750 minutes, 7 secondsSo, what are your thoughts?
50:1150 minutes, 11 secondsI I kind of had a feeling for some reason that they were going to come in at 4 cents.
50:2050 minutes, 20 secondsI'm happy to get any cents. Let me just say that. I am happy to get, you know, I I would rather get four cents than no cents.
50:2850 minutes, 28 secondsUm I I have a I I to be fully transparent,
50:3450 minutes, 34 secondsI have a little bit of a hard time understanding the sales tax portion of it. I mean, I can see, you know, what they're talking about. It's probably
50:4150 minutes, 41 secondsgoing to come in at this or they want to put that in there. But I still am a bit confused about how that officially
50:4850 minutes, 48 secondsimpacts what actual funding is going to come to us and why, you know, why it
50:5550 minutes, 55 secondsmatters more that we get sense than we get an estimated. I I get that part. Um, but so it's hard for me to say, you know,
51:0951 minutes, 9 secondsis the four four cents going to be enough? No, it's not. Um, could we go back next year and ask for four more cents? We could. We could we could ask
51:1851 minutes, 18 secondsfor four more cents the next year. I mean, so we, you know, I don't think 4 cents is a terrible loss. Um,
51:2751 minutes, 27 secondsand I really just am going to concede to you all as to what you want to do. If you want me to go back and ask for more, I sure will.
51:3651 minutes, 36 secondsWell, if we go at four,
51:3951 minutes, 39 secondsthe We sat here one night and lost six and then we lost six last year and we gained two. So, we're 10 cents still in
51:4851 minutes, 48 secondsthe hole up to date in the last few years. And if we had four, then we're still 6 cents in the hole.
51:5551 minutes, 55 secondsAnd of course, sales tax is probably just like that's a big hole. We don't know about,
52:0252 minutes, 2 secondsyou know, if the economy does something crazy, we know that's going to happen. You know, subtly down.
52:0852 minutes, 8 secondsPeople buy just the minimum. And right now, the economy is is pretty good. All except gas.
52:1552 minutes, 15 secondsPeople own electric cars,
52:1852 minutes, 18 secondspay more, but uh it's just u
52:2552 minutes, 25 secondsbut you know, 4 cents is better than nothing.
52:2952 minutes, 29 secondsAnd maybe the the Capital Outlet, maybe we can give them a good figures on the Capital Outlet, something with the tennis courts. I think they're kind of susceptible to that,
52:3852 minutes, 38 secondsright?
52:3852 minutes, 38 secondsAnd the gym weren't in there, was it? I couldn't see the gym was not in there. You pulled that out.
52:4352 minutes, 43 secondsIt's still up in right debate about that. You know,
52:4852 minutes, 48 secondsthat could be something we throw out there. I mean, so hit past.
52:5352 minutes, 53 secondsNo, go ahead. No, you go ahead. In past it's been a million bucks roughly a year of capital projects, right? Didn't I hear that last time?
53:0353 minutes, 3 secondsSo maybe we tell them that next time.
53:0653 minutes, 6 secondsHey, in past history, we've had an average of a million dollars a year in capital
53:1253 minutes, 12 secondsprojects. It's varied from whatever 700 to 1.2, whatever the numbers are.
53:1853 minutes, 18 secondsSo, you know, we're only asking for this, but moving forward, we can expect somewhere in in the the million dollar range just for capital projects, which is usually in the but it's not now,
53:3053 minutes, 30 secondsright?
53:3353 minutes, 33 secondsSo, you're saying I should that we would go back each year and ask for capital projects?
53:3753 minutes, 37 secondsWell, uh, was it Mr. Chester that brought that up to ask the question?
53:4153 minutes, 41 secondsYeah. He said, "What it may be thinking along the lines of a wheel tax, which a $50 additional wheel tax would take care
53:4953 minutes, 49 secondsof capital projects and we could remove that budget from that line item from our budget or the budget we present to them.
53:5853 minutes, 58 secondsBut for question there is like any wheel tax sticker, how long you going to do it? It's numbered. Usually this has to
54:0654 minutes, 6 secondsbe page like the one on the school. How many years it going to take? This going to go? Is this going to be a continuous thing or is it going to come up before the voters or have to come up before
54:1554 minutes, 15 secondsthem? That I don't know. Yeah, in the past it has.
54:1854 minutes, 18 secondsWell, wasn't TSBA working on something to allow a school board to put some money they were
54:2554 minutes, 25 secondsin an interestbearing account for capital projects. Yes.
54:2954 minutes, 29 secondsCapital improvements. But that that that hasn't passed yet, has it?
54:3354 minutes, 33 secondsAnything on it? which if we could get to that point. I mean, you could put some money over into it kind of be like OED
54:4054 minutes, 40 secondsOED money to build you some money for the future for those uh capital improvements
54:4854 minutes, 48 secondsif we could ever give them to get that law passed. That'd be a good thing.
54:5154 minutes, 51 secondsThat'd be a good question. Call them and ask.
54:5454 minutes, 54 secondsWe can't run a deficit. We got to get to the point where But you're not affected. But that doesn't affect maintenance of effort.
55:0355 minutes, 3 secondsNo.
55:0455 minutes, 4 secondsI don't think it would, but you know, I'm not trying to read what Danny was saying, but my thing was he
55:1355 minutes, 13 secondswas almost concerned about it becoming a perpetual thing where we win every year. I may have misread what he said,
55:2255 minutes, 22 secondsbut I thought that was his concern is that by doing this then it becomes perpetual.
55:2955 minutes, 29 secondsUm now flip side of that it is perpetual but it's not changing their maintenance of effort and they can say no at any time.
55:3655 minutes, 36 secondsRight.
55:4155 minutes, 41 secondsWe still got uh a half million dollars out in the cafeteria. Yeah. Right.
55:4955 minutes, 49 secondsYeah. That that's Yeah. That that half million dollar sitting there that's for their cash flow. Mhm. Um,
55:5855 minutes, 58 secondsand I think as I told you all the other night and what was presented in this budget was the possibility of getting below that 500,000.
56:0756 minutes, 7 secondsThat being said, we're kind of trending to where we might not get below that 500,000, but that's if you looked at the
56:1556 minutes, 15 secondsfund balance part, it was going to be 450 estimate for them. Uh, but we may be
56:2356 minutes, 23 secondsokay on that. We'll just have to see how the next month and a half carries out in relation to that on the food service side.
56:3856 minutes, 38 secondsWell, I think if we could get the 4 cents and we could get the capital the the projects on the capital improvement,
56:4956 minutes, 49 secondsI think that's pretty good. and still had fund balance at 2. Well,
56:5956 minutes, 59 secondsshe's got a goal. I'm only going to 90% of the budget. So, we do have a plan. So, she's kind of got a plan.
57:0657 minutes, 6 secondsSo, let's let's talk about that. 90% of budget. Mhm.
57:1057 minutes, 10 seconds3.6 in in um sales tax and 4 cents.
57:1757 minutes, 17 secondsHow much are we in the fund balance?
57:3357 minutes, 33 seconds90% of the overall budget.
57:3657 minutes, 36 secondsYes, that would ideally be the case. Um we you know we know there are just
57:4357 minutes, 43 secondscertain line items there's no way we we our estimate is what it's going to be. Yeah. So salaries.
57:5057 minutes, 50 secondsYeah. So yeah, 90% of the overall budget. Yeah,
57:5357 minutes, 53 secondswe know we'd have to probably come in under that on certain line items to get to that. But yeah,
58:0058 minutesthat's your 90% of the budget there. Um,
58:0758 minutes, 7 secondsit's not undoable, but it's going to take a lot. Mhm.
58:1258 minutes, 12 secondsUm some of the things that we've already
58:1858 minutes, 18 secondssee that number again that's there. I was trying to get up to what revenues are.
58:3358 minutes, 33 secondsRevenues are budgeted at 332.
58:3858 minutes, 38 secondsAnd so then you add a um there was 3.3 in here for
58:4958 minutes, 49 secondsproperty tax. So you add another 300,000 to that and you're budgeted at um
59:0059 minuteslet me just state the number. Sorry, I apologize. Struggling.
59:1359 minutes, 13 secondsSo there's your revenue side. You add,
59:1659 minutes, 16 secondslet's just say they had 330 3 375 I think
59:2359 minutes, 23 secondsor 33 3 3.3 they had. So, let's just say it's going to be an additional 300,000 from what's already in here.
59:3359 minutes, 33 secondsSo, for cells. Oh, yes.
59:4459 minutes, 44 secondsSo that would be so at that if you can get to 90
59:5559 minutes, 55 secondsyou're still hitting fun balance at 1.1 1.2.
1:00:011 hour, 1 secondSo if we slows down the stuff,
1:00:071 hour, 7 secondsbut I want you to be fully aware that's regardless of whether it was eight 8 cents or 4 cents, these things are going to have to be done in here.
1:00:191 hour, 19 secondsSo if we are at 90% of our budget and we get 3.6 6 million in in sales
1:00:281 hour, 28 secondstax, which is kind of what we're projecting. A real projection number,
1:00:321 hour, 32 secondsand we get a 4 cent increase from the county. Mhm.
1:00:361 hour, 36 secondsWill be in our fund balance of 1 point almost 1.2 million.
1:00:401 hour, 40 secondsYeah. And there would be because sales property tax will come in a little higher than what the budget is because it would be collected at close to 100%
1:00:491 hour, 49 secondsand it's only budgeted at 93%.
1:00:521 hour, 52 secondsSo there would be some additional funds in there.
1:01:071 hour, 1 minute, 7 secondsI mean, is there any reason why we can't just go and tell them this given this scenario? I mean, because as I'm talking
1:01:141 hour, 1 minute, 14 secondsto almost every county commissioner mentioned the fact that sometimes I don't realize
1:01:221 hour, 1 minute, 22 secondsthe sales tax dollars. I don't understand why y'all do that. A lot of them don't understand that. And believe me, I know.
1:01:291 hour, 1 minute, 29 secondsAnd it's almost like they perceive it as being Chicken Little,
1:01:341 hour, 1 minute, 34 secondsright? And so if we come to them and say okay even if we cut our budget 10 if we take 10% of our total budget
1:01:431 hour, 1 minute, 43 secondswhich 70 plus percent of it is salary so that's hard to do. So we take 10% of out
1:01:501 hour, 1 minute, 50 secondsof our whole budget and we do a really good sales tax year get 3.6 in revenue and y'all give us an extra 4 cents.
1:02:001 hour, 2 minutesWe're still in the hole. We're still in the negative.
1:02:071 hour, 2 minutes, 7 secondsEven if you give us eight cents, we're still in the hole.
1:02:131 hour, 2 minutes, 13 secondsAnd this is potential.
1:02:151 hour, 2 minutes, 15 secondsAnd this is the same thing that happened last year. We projected this. We hit the fund balance here and the year before. I
1:02:221 hour, 2 minutes, 22 secondsmean, I'm sure there were a few years prior to that where ESR funds came in play. We didn't have to go backwards, but you know, this is where we are.
1:02:291 hour, 2 minutes, 29 secondsThose ESR funds aren't here. I mean, just this is where we're at, guys.
1:02:361 hour, 2 minutes, 36 secondsWe're not hiding anything. I know y'all keep saying we can't tell us how to spend our money, but this is where we're at.
1:02:461 hour, 2 minutes, 46 secondsWhat do y'all think? That's going to do it, I guess.
1:02:551 hour, 2 minutes, 55 secondsYeah.
1:02:581 hour, 2 minutes, 58 secondsSo, at that point, what were we asking for? go back to the eight cents.
1:03:031 hour, 3 minutes, 3 secondsI mean, if I had to get on my knees and beg, I'm willing to do that.
1:03:091 hour, 3 minutes, 9 secondsIs that what you're saying, though? That would go back and present. Say, yeah, I mean, hey,
1:03:141 hour, 3 minutes, 14 secondswe took your rejection and we took your suggestion of 3.3 and four and 4 cents.
1:03:221 hour, 3 minutes, 22 secondsBut here's, you know, we're coming to act back to ask for eight. Here's our new projection
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondswith a 90% 3.6 six sales and even with an eight and we give them two scenarios.
1:03:351 hour, 3 minutes, 35 secondsHere's what it looks like with a 4-cent increase. Here's what it looks like with a 8 cent increase. We're still projecting fund balance based on especially based on the last two years
1:03:431 hour, 3 minutes, 43 secondswe've been in going into our account last two years.
1:03:471 hour, 3 minutes, 47 secondsAnd we we won't be able to do that but for just a couple more years.
1:03:571 hour, 3 minutes, 57 secondsWhat do you think? you have a thought?
1:04:001 hour, 4 minutesI I don't mean to throw this off, but it's really up to you all. Um the the
1:04:081 hour, 4 minutes, 8 secondsonly thought I would give is if we're going to do that or something like that.
1:04:141 hour, 4 minutes, 14 secondsThat does not necessarily need to be decided and presented tonight. They're while that by them saying they're not going to get this done until June.
1:04:271 hour, 4 minutes, 27 secondsThat's going to be there Monday night.
1:04:311 hour, 4 minutes, 31 secondsYeah. I don't think we have unless we want to. And I'm not opposed to doing that, but you asked me my thought.
1:04:361 hour, 4 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. Um because we can we we can push and go in
1:04:431 hour, 4 minutes, 43 secondsin another week of looking at where our expenditures are going to be. Gives us another week of looking at what that
1:04:511 hour, 4 minutes, 51 secondsfund balance hit is going to be this year. Um and I'm not saying we have to keep playing it, but they already told
1:04:581 hour, 4 minutes, 58 secondsus um that aspect. Um,
1:05:081 hour, 5 minutes, 8 secondsso I'll give you something I'd like to see on this.
1:05:121 hour, 5 minutes, 12 secondsIf you if and this is just a thought for us to look at. If we said we'll split the difference with you,
1:05:211 hour, 5 minutes, 21 secondswhat does 6 cents look like and we don't ask you for that 400,000 on the capital improvements?
1:05:301 hour, 5 minutes, 30 secondsThat would be shooting herself in the foot. Yeah.
1:05:321 hour, 5 minutes, 32 secondsI don't know what a six what a six cents look like on there. Does it add about another what? Two 200,000 200,000 on it. Yeah.
1:05:401 hour, 5 minutes, 40 secondsOkay.
1:05:411 hour, 5 minutes, 41 secondsYeah. So So two two additional cents is going to add 166,000.
1:05:481 hour, 5 minutes, 48 secondsSo we're better we're better off at 4 cents and ask for capital projects. I I came in late. So does it
1:05:571 hour, 5 minutes, 57 secondsseem like they would give us the four the four? It seems like Yeah. 4 cents.
1:06:041 hour, 6 minutes, 4 secondsYep. That's what they suggested that they give us 4 cents. Um they increase the sales tax estimate and then they
1:06:131 hour, 6 minutes, 13 secondsdidn't they didn't shut out the capital outlay. They just I I couldn't tell that they voted on that at all.
1:06:181 hour, 6 minutes, 18 secondsThey didn't. They just kind of questioned. Yeah.
1:06:221 hour, 6 minutes, 22 secondsSo that's when the convers conversation went to our license increase on wheel times. That's when they kind of changed over to that.
1:06:311 hour, 6 minutes, 31 secondsNever got that comment.
1:06:321 hour, 6 minutes, 32 secondsYeah. I I think what I heard them saying though, Crystal was kind of directing them that that would need to be talked about in their debt service and in their
1:06:411 hour, 6 minutes, 41 secondsnotes part and not necessarily they can't approve to do it in that portion of the budget that they were looking at.
1:06:491 hour, 6 minutes, 49 secondsAnd so they would need to address that when they started talk. They would need to go reentertain. I thought they seemed receptive to that.
1:06:581 hour, 6 minutes, 58 secondsDo y'all think they seem receptive to that? I I did. I did too. To what?
1:07:021 hour, 7 minutes, 2 secondsTo the to the capital project list funding it separately. Yeah.
1:07:061 hour, 7 minutes, 6 secondsBut we didn't hit them with I mean how much was on it?
1:07:091 hour, 7 minutes, 9 seconds400 400,000. Yeah.
1:07:121 hour, 7 minutes, 12 secondsBut to what you missed was we didn't get off this the top of the page. Nobody even looked at the bottom line.
1:07:211 hour, 7 minutes, 21 secondsSo whether they could have given us 4 cents and that could have put us in the black.
1:07:261 hour, 7 minutes, 26 secondsThey didn't know. They don't know. were still 2 million in the red. Mhm.
1:07:311 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondsSo the way they didn't even discuss that. So I think that's an important point that we bring up past years.
1:07:391 hour, 7 minutes, 39 secondsYeah. I mean I understand exactly what you're saying and I think a lot of them just don't know and just don't understand um where we're coming from and how this process works. I mean,
1:07:501 hour, 7 minutes, 50 secondsthere's a lot of people out there that don't cuz, you know, when you talk about getting money to give teachers raises or whatever, you know, or raise this tax
1:07:581 hour, 7 minutes, 58 secondsraise that, you know, people just get in an uproar.
1:08:021 hour, 8 minutes, 2 secondsBut my thing is, so it seems like they're willing to do the four, but if we go in and ask for eight and they totally reject it, would they not would they reject the four as well?
1:08:121 hour, 8 minutes, 12 secondsDo you see what I'm saying? That that has been my concern as well.
1:08:161 hour, 8 minutes, 16 secondsthere is that potential if we if we go back and and say no we we want eight we're you know going to that at that
1:08:231 hour, 8 minutes, 23 secondsmeeting they could say you get zero right um so that definitely is a is a fear you know
1:08:311 hour, 8 minutes, 31 secondsI mean they're they're I think if they did that they would let their ego get in their way I mean they got to be in there for their
1:08:391 hour, 8 minutes, 39 secondsconstituents right grant egos always play a part but that would an extraordinarily eccentric ego move to for me.
1:08:511 hour, 8 minutes, 51 secondsSo you you think that they would when they can only say no,
1:08:551 hour, 8 minutes, 55 secondsbut my thing is if they say no to the eight are they going to say like she said, are they going to just say, "Well, y'all don't get nothing." It's possible,
1:09:031 hour, 9 minutes, 3 secondsis it?
1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondsOh, yeah. You know, um Well, I mean, they've cut us. Mhm. Yeah.
1:09:111 hour, 9 minutes, 11 secondsWe cut our capital out like how much last year?
1:09:161 hour, 9 minutes, 16 secondsWe cut it back significant to get to that significant. Yeah. Yeah. Can't remember exactly.
1:09:221 hour, 9 minutes, 22 secondsAnd if some of those things we had planned for last year, we're going to do this year going to cost us twice as much. Yeah.
1:09:261 hour, 9 minutes, 26 secondsCuz they were based on production of oil like parking lots and stuff like that.
1:09:311 hour, 9 minutes, 31 secondsWe've done parking lots when prices were down.
1:09:341 hour, 9 minutes, 34 secondsNow prices are up. So it would cost just twice as much if we So those are completely off of the table. of floors,
1:09:431 hour, 9 minutes, 43 secondsyou know, stuff like that that gym floors is there's still I talked to Aaron Taylor today and he's he says this
1:09:511 hour, 9 minutes, 51 secondsthe guy thinks he can make it look right but they're not sure or is it going to work? So if you go in
1:09:581 hour, 9 minutes, 58 secondsand explain in depth what I'm saying and and keep it at four and if they get
1:10:081 hour, 10 minutes, 8 secondsall the information and maybe understand is it a possibility they would say okay we'll give you a little more.
1:10:141 hour, 10 minutes, 14 secondsNo that I I don't see that happening unless I specifically ask for more. Okay.
1:10:221 hour, 10 minutes, 22 secondsI mean y'all you y'all may know better than me. Have they ever given you more than what you asked for? Those two.
1:10:311 hour, 10 minutes, 31 secondsI'm just just laying it out, you know,
1:10:331 hour, 10 minutes, 33 secondsjust cuz I Well, you know, I better be quiet because I will tape film or whatever.
1:10:401 hour, 10 minutes, 40 secondsI will say this. Um I called Michelle today. Michelle has a very good memory.
1:10:461 hour, 10 minutes, 46 secondsAnd um um I asked her, "Have we ever gone in and asked for additional sales
1:10:551 hour, 10 minutes, 55 secondstax or additional property tax?" and she said there were two scenarios where once we were funding once we were putting
1:11:041 hour, 11 minutes, 4 secondsSRO's in all of the um buildings that um
1:11:101 hour, 11 minutes, 10 secondsthat we made the request for additional funds, but we did not care whose budget
1:11:181 hour, 11 minutes, 18 secondsit was in. And so they ended up putting all of those or the new ones they put
1:11:261 hour, 11 minutes, 26 secondsinto the sheriff's budget. And so that wasn't a maintenance of effort increase on on ours. And it allowed them to have
1:11:341 hour, 11 minutes, 34 secondsadditional um um deputies.
1:11:401 hour, 11 minutes, 40 secondsFlip side of that is now they get revenue from the state for those additional deputies. They did not that first year. Just so Thank you. Just so
1:11:491 hour, 11 minutes, 49 secondsyou guys know that um the other time there was something I can't remember
1:11:561 hour, 11 minutes, 56 secondswhat it is but there was something that was a capital item
1:12:021 hour, 12 minutes, 2 secondsuh and they picked that up for us and it may have been what someone was talking about. I can't remember who brought it
1:12:091 hour, 12 minutes, 9 secondsup. Uh, and there was one other time the debt service the last year of the debt service on the light upgrades.
1:12:191 hour, 12 minutes, 19 secondsThey paid that for us which was $164,000 and didn't have it in our budget.
1:12:261 hour, 12 minutes, 26 secondsSo you said that now that reminds me I remember being in a networking meeting and there was a business I guess I'm going back to expenditures.
1:12:371 hour, 12 minutes, 37 secondsThere was a business they targeted other businesses by going into their building
1:12:441 hour, 12 minutes, 44 secondsan infrastructure and replacing lights with le basically LED low efficient lights. And basically what they would do
1:12:521 hour, 12 minutes, 52 secondsis they would do it for free and then they would split the cost savings. So if your if your light bill was a million
1:12:591 hour, 12 minutes, 59 secondsdollar a year and we could cut it down to $200,000 a year, you saved $800,000.
1:13:051 hour, 13 minutes, 5 secondsI keep 400, you keep 400, and everything's done for free, right? So, you're net 400.
1:13:101 hour, 13 minutes, 10 secondsHave we ever looked at anything like that?
1:13:121 hour, 13 minutes, 12 secondsWe did that several years ago with our energy um HVAC project and we had u u
1:13:211 hour, 13 minutes, 21 secondspart of that grant or part of that agreement included having someone that would go out to the schools every night.
1:13:291 hour, 13 minutes, 29 secondsuh that was one of our maintenance people and he would look to see if HVAC units had been gone. Um
1:13:391 hour, 13 minutes, 39 secondshe was basically auditing every building. he was getting additional pay through that and he was reporting that
1:13:451 hour, 13 minutes, 45 secondsand keeping that in a um spreadsheet and the savings was being tracked and then I
1:13:531 hour, 13 minutes, 53 secondsdon't know if it was a direct one to one share but there was a share in the reductions and then if you didn't see
1:13:591 hour, 13 minutes, 59 secondsthe reductions then they would give portions of the dollars back. We also
1:14:061 hour, 14 minutes, 6 secondsdid similar thing but not quite with all of the lights when we did this. That was a company out of Arkansas I believe. But
1:14:151 hour, 14 minutes, 15 secondsthe grant was through TVA. The loan was through TVA. And so this was a company that worked with TVA and they went in
1:14:241 hour, 14 minutes, 24 secondsand in all of our buildings, they replaced all of our um lights to LED
1:14:311 hour, 14 minutes, 31 secondslights. And that was roughly a $1.1 million interest free loan that we paid
1:14:381 hour, 14 minutes, 38 secondsover the years with the expectation of about a 20% reduction uh in energy usage.
1:14:471 hour, 14 minutes, 47 secondsSadly, what happened in that first year is we dropped off of that one, quit sending the personnel to audit all the
1:14:541 hour, 14 minutes, 54 secondsschools on the HVAC. And in that first year, because whatever reason we did
1:15:011 hour, 15 minutes, 1 secondthat in that first year, we did not realize those savings because no one was checking the HVAC in the temperature
1:15:081 hour, 15 minutes, 8 secondssettings in school uh because we said we weren't going to do that anymore. And so in that first year, we didn't realize those savings. We started addressing
1:15:171 hour, 15 minutes, 17 secondsthat again and was able to realize some of those savings. So we have done similar things twice. Uh not exact 100%
1:15:261 hour, 15 minutes, 26 secondsbut that first one the HVAC one was more like what you were saying.
1:15:311 hour, 15 minutes, 31 secondsThe light one was again it was still a TVA grant if I remember. It was TVA TV long TVA loan.
1:15:461 hour, 15 minutes, 46 secondsI guess all our buildings now, I know all the gym and all buildings have EDS except for our playfields
1:15:531 hour, 15 minutes, 53 secondsand they're still using the same lights.
1:16:191 hour, 16 minutes, 19 secondsYou want some more thought on this and put this off to a later date. We can table it tonight and come back and meet again.
1:16:321 hour, 16 minutes, 32 secondsWe happy with what we talked about.
1:16:441 hour, 16 minutes, 44 secondsIf we beaten this horse to death, we usually do.
1:16:481 hour, 16 minutes, 48 secondsYeah. But I don't know if we've beating him to
1:16:551 hour, 16 minutes, 55 secondsdeath, but we talked about a lot. But um here
1:17:081 hour, 17 minutes, 8 secondsSo is the thought to go back in and A B C D E FG everything to them
1:17:151 hour, 17 minutes, 15 secondsso that they will understand exactly what's being spent and what we need and
1:17:241 hour, 17 minutes, 24 secondsbecause I I mean I think we need I don't want to say that I'm not going to say that but I think it needs to be like you
1:17:311 hour, 17 minutes, 31 secondssaid written step by step. This is what's going on.
1:17:361 hour, 17 minutes, 36 secondsThis is what we need or we can't, you know, we're not going to be able to get there. But I don't think we need to go and ask the aid when we may not even get four. You know what I'm saying,
1:17:461 hour, 17 minutes, 46 secondsright?
1:17:481 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondsYeah. I don't know if we hit them with spreadsheets.
1:17:521 hour, 17 minutes, 52 secondsMaybe don't go up there with spreadsheets. Maybe go up there with graphics with scenarios. Make it easy.
1:17:591 hour, 17 minutes, 59 secondsYeah. understand.
1:18:051 hour, 18 minutes, 5 secondsI I uh my hesitancy is so I'm brand new. Um there's still lots
1:18:131 hour, 18 minutes, 13 secondsof things that I'm learning. I do not want yet, never really. I don't want to get into this um contentious
1:18:211 hour, 18 minutes, 21 secondsrelationship with them. it will not serve us well to ever for me to to prevent that we're
1:18:281 hour, 18 minutes, 28 secondsyou know um so again I will do whatever you tell me to do um if you want me to
1:18:361 hour, 18 minutes, 36 secondsgo back and present the eight um I've got plenty of justifications why we need the eight I had them tonight I just
1:18:431 hour, 18 minutes, 43 secondsdidn't present it um I think that uh there is a There is a what am I trying to say?
1:18:551 hour, 18 minutes, 55 secondsThere is a comeback for every one of those. Someone will will say, "Well,
1:18:591 hour, 18 minutes, 59 secondsokay, that's fine, but this and that's there's there's someone that's going to kind of negate every piece that I say." I think, you know,
1:19:081 hour, 19 minutes, 8 secondsthat's just the way um I think that goes. So,
1:19:151 hour, 19 minutes, 15 secondsI'm excited that we got four cents. Um,
1:19:201 hour, 19 minutes, 20 secondsI'll be happy to go back and ask for more. I'm not sure. I I'm not convinced that no matter what data I bring to them, it's going to matter.
1:19:291 hour, 19 minutes, 29 secondsRight. I agree. Yeah.
1:19:321 hour, 19 minutes, 32 secondsI I see and and I agree with you. You're you're new. You need to work to build a
1:19:401 hour, 19 minutes, 40 secondsgood working relationship between you and them. And and this board needs to come to the table, too.
1:19:481 hour, 19 minutes, 48 secondsI think this needs to be starting only in like January, right,
1:19:511 hour, 19 minutes, 51 secondsto have a better relationship with that budget committee. Um,
1:19:581 hour, 19 minutes, 58 secondsto me,
1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsyou know, I think you take the four cents and and be thrown to death that you're not going the other way. Right.
1:20:091 hour, 20 minutes, 9 secondsBut I also think in that when you go back, you need to get them to understand like Brandon has said, the the bottom of the page, this is where we're at,
1:20:191 hour, 20 minutes, 19 secondsright?
1:20:201 hour, 20 minutes, 20 secondsAnd be sure that that's understood and that part of that is money that we can't spend in there. Again, that needs to be reiterated.
1:20:281 hour, 20 minutes, 28 secondsUm, and then maybe work towards more next year.
1:20:341 hour, 20 minutes, 34 secondsUm, you're you're going to have a year under your belt. You're gonna have more data. You're going to keep up with that data.
1:20:411 hour, 20 minutes, 41 secondsUm I don't want to see us set you right out of the the boat into a bad relationship.
1:20:521 hour, 20 minutes, 52 secondsRight. I agree.
1:20:531 hour, 20 minutes, 53 secondsBecause it's unfortunately it's it's more yours to build than ours, right?
1:20:581 hour, 20 minutes, 58 secondsUm I do want to establish that relationship. if I want to um I think you need to and I think they
1:21:051 hour, 21 minutes, 5 secondsneed to kind of be involved in something you know communications and you know make sure that they're apprised of all
1:21:141 hour, 21 minutes, 14 secondsthe things that we have going on. So just open those lines of communication.
1:21:181 hour, 21 minutes, 18 secondsUm but I definitely think that that's the right way to go with that. So but again I need to get them vaccinated.
1:21:281 hour, 21 minutes, 28 secondsWell I mean I'm new. I've got blind spots. So, I'm gonna refer to these guys who
1:21:451 hour, 21 minutes, 45 secondsI've got blind spots. I He's still learning. Still learning.
1:21:491 hour, 21 minutes, 49 secondsWell, I'm still learning, too. I I think I like you. I think we ought to go with with what they're going to give us. And I I I'll make a motion.
1:21:591 hour, 21 minutes, 59 secondsAll right. that we send her back with this adjusted to the 4 cents
1:22:051 hour, 22 minutes, 5 secondsand to ask for the capital improvement projects on the list to how much you want to stay with that list or we want to increase that.
1:22:151 hour, 22 minutes, 15 secondsI think you've already presented them with the list. I would hate to come back in and ask for more. I think you stick with that list list back. So, yeah. Well, that that's I mean a little something they're not.
1:22:261 hour, 22 minutes, 26 secondsI think we we we go with that. I wouldn't want to pull the rug out from under a moment if all of a sudden we come back and ask for more from on that. Okay.
1:22:331 hour, 22 minutes, 33 secondsI think you leave it like it is.
1:22:351 hour, 22 minutes, 35 secondsWe have a motion on the floor for cents and as capitallays. Do we have a second?
1:22:411 hour, 22 minutes, 41 secondsYou have go to your second hand. I'll second. Second. I'll second.
1:22:481 hour, 22 minutes, 48 secondsOkay. I need you all to do an amendment
1:22:551 hour, 22 minutes, 55 secondsto it besides what you just did. And along the motion, this amendment I will
1:23:041 hour, 23 minutes, 4 secondsthese would be the expenditure line items with the decreased amounts. These would be the revenue line items with the
1:23:121 hour, 23 minutes, 12 secondsincreased amounts. And what I did not do is put that bus revenue in there for one bus. We only have one bus in the budget uh right now.
1:23:221 hour, 23 minutes, 22 secondsSo you need now so we need to So you have not voted on the budget yet.
1:23:271 hour, 23 minutes, 27 secondsYou just vote. You're in discussion as to what was sent back. And now I need
1:23:331 hour, 23 minutes, 33 secondsyou to amend what was sent back with those changes. So I just need to make amend the motion.
1:23:431 hour, 23 minutes, 43 secondsAmend the motion that according to this expenditure and revenue increase and decrease. I just need to look at that.
1:23:541 hour, 23 minutes, 54 secondsThat's just line items.
1:23:561 hour, 23 minutes, 56 secondsYeah. And and none of them are what they're concerned about line items. It doesn't have anything to do with local.
1:24:041 hour, 24 minutes, 4 secondsSo we're decreasing our expenditures by roughly 360,000 and increasing our revenue by 310
1:24:101 hour, 24 minutes, 10 secondsor Yes. Correct. So it's a net almost 500 gain.
1:24:241 hour, 24 minutes, 24 secondsYes, very much so. All right. Oh, we have amendment motion.
1:24:321 hour, 24 minutes, 32 secondsAmendment motion here. Second. Yes.
1:24:381 hour, 24 minutes, 38 secondsSecond roll call vote. Um, may I speak?
1:24:451 hour, 24 minutes, 45 secondsYes, ma'am.
1:24:471 hour, 24 minutes, 47 secondsDo I do I need to put anything on there outside of just the Are you going to attach that sheet onto this? Yeah, we'll attach it on.
1:24:531 hour, 24 minutes, 53 secondsOkay. So, I what I put was amend the motion according to the expenditure increase and decrease. Okay.
1:25:011 hour, 25 minutes, 1 secondSo, we need to vote on the amendment and then vote on the motion. Right now, we need it.
1:25:091 hour, 25 minutes, 9 secondsVoting on the amendment. Okay.
1:25:131 hour, 25 minutes, 13 secondsSo, we need a roll call vote all the way on the amendment
1:25:211 hour, 25 minutes, 21 secondsor on the motion overall because when I amend on here, it amends the motion and the motion is ready. So, I can do it all. I think you're good on it.
1:25:291 hour, 25 minutes, 29 secondsSo, you're you're doing it for all of it. So, it's the four cents with the capital outlays with the minutes. That's what it all is.
1:25:381 hour, 25 minutes, 38 secondsUh, Miss Herren, yes. Miss Taylor, yes. Mr. Tidwell, yes. Mr. Hobs, yes. Okay.
1:25:471 hour, 25 minutes, 47 secondsAll right. Do we have any other business? Motion to journ. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Second.
1:25:541 hour, 25 minutes, 54 secondsSecond. All in favor say I. I.