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Hickman County Budget Committee 05/11/2026
9:419 minutes, 41 secondsbeen telling me to get that band.
9:459 minutes, 45 secondsOh, really? Yeah. It's I've got it.
9:569 minutes, 56 secondsKids been playing volleyball.
10:0710 minutes, 7 seconds10.
10:1110 minutes, 11 secondsIt's crazy how much that did sound like.
10:1910 minutes, 19 secondsI apologize. Stop by and look at it on your way. Yeah.
10:2710 minutes, 27 secondsWhat's your address?
10:3810 minutes, 38 secondsCall the budget uh finance human resources meeting to order. If you would please call roll.
10:4310 minutes, 43 secondsMatthew Barnhill here.
10:4510 minutes, 45 secondsPaul Calott here.
10:4610 minutes, 46 secondsClay Chester here.
10:4710 minutes, 47 secondsDanny Clark here. Todd Collins.
10:5010 minutes, 50 secondsSteve Gian here.
10:5110 minutes, 51 secondsJim Harren here.
10:5310 minutes, 53 secondsDusty Jordan here. Ron Mayberry here.
10:5510 minutes, 55 secondsRicky Murray here.
10:5610 minutes, 56 secondsKeith Nash here.
11:0011 minutesDeon Viger here.
11:0311 minutes, 3 secondsRon Bucket here.
11:0511 minutes, 5 secondsThomasson here.
11:0711 minutes, 7 seconds11 present and I mean 13 present, one 13 present, one absent. Uh we have enough for a quorum. Uh first thing up
11:1611 minutes, 16 secondsis the approval of agenda and you should have received it in your packet.
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsUh, Commissioner Bucket, I'd like to make a motion to move Mayor Bates into 5.5 in between the approval
11:3011 minutes, 30 secondsof minutes and budget amendments. Motion by Commissioner Pucket, second by Commissioner Pickard to add the mayor and at between five and six.
11:4211 minutes, 42 secondsAny discussion? All in favor say I.
11:4511 minutes, 45 secondsI oppose. Eyes have it. Now I'd take a motion to approve the amended agenda.
11:5111 minutes, 51 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Jordan, second by Commissioner Thomasson. Any discussion.
11:5811 minutes, 58 secondsAll in favor say I. I. [laughter] Oppos? Eyes have. First up is public comment period. And there's nobody nobody on the public comment period.
12:1112 minutes, 11 secondsAnd next up is the approval of the minutes of previous meetings. They were all in your packet.
12:1912 minutes, 19 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Mayberry, second by Commissioner Pucket. Any discussion.
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsAll in favor say I. I oppose. Eyes have it.
12:3112 minutes, 31 secondsNow, mayor, thank you, sir. Commissioners, I just want to give you an update because I know there's a lot of information going
12:3912 minutes, 39 secondsaround online that says that uh the uh EMS station 3 was closed down by the state fire marshall's office. That is not true.
12:5112 minutes, 51 secondsWhat happened was as he came out there to look and what it was intended to be the way it was written in the plans we had done something a little different.
13:0113 minutes, 1 secondSo at this point I have a meeting with him Monday morning and we will sit down and discuss some things that need to take place.
13:1013 minutes, 10 secondsI just wanted to give you an update because I've been getting 100 million phone calls and I know you guys probably have too. Uh but that's the update. 9:00
13:1913 minutes, 19 secondsMonday morning, I will be meeting with the state fire marshal in my office.
13:2813 minutes, 28 secondsGood. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Any questions for the mayor?
13:3413 minutes, 34 seconds[clears throat]
13:3413 minutes, 34 secondsAll right. Thank you. All right. First up is budget amendments.
13:4213 minutes, 42 secondsI have several budget amendments that are cleanup. Do you guys want me to take those all together or do you want me to do them one at a time?
13:5013 minutes, 50 secondsAll together is fine. Unless somebody objects.
13:5413 minutes, 54 secondsOkay. So, I'd like to take budget amendments 2664, budget amendment 65,
14:0314 minutes, 3 secondsbudget amendment 67, 69, 70, and 71.
14:1214 minutes, 12 secondsBudget amendment 64.
14:1614 minutes, 16 secondswould be year end cleanup for county general.
14:2014 minutes, 20 secondsBudget amendment 65 is year end cleanup for EMA and moving money for purchase to
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsadd to the insurance recovery to purchase a vehicle.
14:3414 minutes, 34 seconds67 is going to be sheriff's department cleanup.
14:4114 minutes, 41 secondsBudget amendment 69 is uh just adding money to the trustes
14:4914 minutes, 49 secondscommission [clears throat] for adequate facilities.
14:5414 minutes, 54 seconds[clears throat] Budget amendment 2670 is just a reclassification of for coding
15:0315 minutes, 3 secondsand budget amendment 2671 is just year and clean up for debt service moving some interest around no new money for any of those.
15:1315 minutes, 13 secondsMotion got a motion by Commissioner Mayberry second by Commissioner Pucket.
15:1815 minutes, 18 secondsAny discussion? And to recap at 64, 65, 67, 69, 70, and 71, I believe.
15:2615 minutes, 26 secondsYes, sir. Any discussion? Roll call vote.
15:3315 minutes, 33 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes.
15:3515 minutes, 35 secondsPaul Calcott, yes.
15:3615 minutes, 36 secondsClay Chester, [clears throat] yes.
15:3715 minutes, 37 secondsDanny Clark, yes.
15:3915 minutes, 39 secondsSteve Gian, yes.
15:4015 minutes, 40 secondsJim Herren, yes.
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsDusty Jordan, yes.
15:4215 minutes, 42 secondsRon Mayberry, yes.
15:4415 minutes, 44 secondsVicky Murray, yes.
15:4515 minutes, 45 secondsKeith Nash, yes. Deon Pig, yes.
15:4815 minutes, 48 secondsRon Pucket, yes.
15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes. 13 yes, one. 13 yes, one absent. Motion carries.
15:5915 minutes, 59 secondsBudget amendment 2666 is a request for opioid funding for the
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondsHitman County Schools Prevention Now Program in the amount of $22,000 and it was approved by the board on April 14th,
16:1416 minutes, 14 seconds2026. Got a motion by Commissioner Jordan, second by Commissioner Calakott. Any discussion
16:2216 minutes, 22 secondson 2666
16:2716 minutes, 27 seconds[clears throat]
16:2916 minutes, 29 secondsroll call vote. Wayne Thomasson? Yes. Matthew Barnhill? Yes. Claude Calipquad? Yes.
16:3416 minutes, 34 secondsClay Chester, yes.
16:3516 minutes, 35 secondsDanny Clark, yes.
16:3616 minutes, 36 secondsSteve, yes.
16:3816 minutes, 38 secondsJim Herren, yes.
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondsDusty Jordan, yes.
16:4016 minutes, 40 secondsRon Mayberry, yes.
16:4116 minutes, 41 secondsMickey Murray, yes.
16:4216 minutes, 42 secondsKeith Nash, yes.
16:4416 minutes, 44 secondsDeon Picker, yes.
16:4616 minutes, 46 secondsYes. [clears throat] 13. Yes. One. 13. Yes. One absent. Motion carries.
16:5216 minutes, 52 secondsBudget amendment 2668 is for the direct fund. They're needing
16:5916 minutes, 59 secondsto move money from the U fund balance to for [clears throat] K9 reertification fees and training.
17:1017 minutes, 10 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Thomasson, second [clears throat] by Commissioner Calott. Any discussion on 2668?
17:2117 minutes, 21 secondsRoll call vote.
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsRon Pucket, yes.
17:2317 minutes, 23 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes.
17:2517 minutes, 25 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes.
17:2617 minutes, 26 secondsPaul Calipott, yes.
17:2717 minutes, 27 secondsClay Chester, yes.
17:2817 minutes, 28 secondsDanny Clark, yes.
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsSteve, yes.
17:3117 minutes, 31 secondsJim Herring, yes.
17:3217 minutes, 32 secondsDusty Jordan, yes.
17:3317 minutes, 33 secondsRon Mayberry, yes.
17:3417 minutes, 34 secondsRicky Murray, yes.
17:3517 minutes, 35 secondsKeith Nash, yes.
17:3617 minutes, 36 secondsDeon Picker, yes. 13. 13? Yes. Motion carries.
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsBudget amendment 2672.
17:4717 minutes, 47 secondsThis is to budget for the FEMA mission 8 note allocation. Um we don't plan to use all of this but we budgeted in the revenue and also in the expenditure.
17:5917 minutes, 59 secondsMotion by Commissioner Mayberry, second by Commissioner Jordan. Any discussion on 2672?
18:0818 minutes, 8 secondsRoll call. Deon Picker. Yes. Ron Pucket. Yes. Thomasson. Yes. Matthew Bonhill. Yes. Paul Calott. Yes.
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsClay Chester. Yes. Danny Clark. Yes. Steve Geian. Yes. Jim Harren. Yes. Dusty Jordan. Yes. Ron Mayberry. Yes. Ricky Murray.
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsYes. Keith Nash. Yes. 13. Yes. 13. Yes. Motion carries.
18:3018 minutes, 30 seconds[clears throat]
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondsBudget amendment 2673.
18:3518 minutes, 35 secondsThis is for insurance recovery and TCAP revenue. Uh, it was approved by the board of education on April 13, 2026.
18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Clark, second by Commissioner Thomasson. Any discussion on 26 73?
18:5918 minutes, 59 secondsRoll call vote.
19:0019 minutesKeith Nash, yes.
19:0219 minutes, 2 secondsDeon Picker, yes.
19:0319 minutes, 3 secondsRon Pucket, yes.
19:0419 minutes, 4 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes.
19:0619 minutes, 6 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes. Paul Calott, yes.
19:0819 minutes, 8 secondsClay Chester, yes.
19:0919 minutes, 9 secondsDanny Clark, yes.
19:1119 minutes, 11 secondsSteve Gianak, yes. Jim Herren, yes.
19:1319 minutes, 13 secondsDustin Jordan, yes.
19:1419 minutes, 14 secondsRon Mayberry, yes.
19:1519 minutes, 15 secondsRicky Murray, yes. 13, yes. 13, yes. Motion carried.
19:2219 minutes, 22 secondsMudget amendment 2674.
19:2719 minutes, 27 secondsThis is for Fine 207. It's for attorney fees and reimbursement related to debt collection. And it was approved by Solway Sport on May 4.
19:3719 minutes, 37 secondsA motion by Commissioner Jordan, second by Commissioner Clark on 2674. Any discussion?
19:4519 minutes, 45 secondsRoll call vote.
19:4619 minutes, 46 secondsRicky Murray, yes.
19:4819 minutes, 48 secondsKeith Nash, yes.
19:4919 minutes, 49 secondsDevin Picker, yes.
19:5019 minutes, 50 secondsRon Pucket, yes.
19:5119 minutes, 51 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes.
19:5219 minutes, 52 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes.
19:5419 minutes, 54 secondsPaul Calico, yes.
19:5519 minutes, 55 secondsClay Chester, yes.
19:5619 minutes, 56 secondsDanny Clark, yes.
19:5719 minutes, 57 secondsSteve Jun, yes.
19:5819 minutes, 58 secondsJim Haring, yes.
20:0020 minutesDusty Jordan, yes.
20:0120 minutes, 1 secondRon Mayberry, yes. 13. Yes. 13. Yes. Motion carries. And that's all my budget amendments.
20:0920 minutes, 9 secondsAll right. Next up is HR business. I'm not aware of any business.
20:1620 minutes, 16 secondsNext up is school budget.
20:2020 minutes, 20 secondsCome on up, Mr. Chairman.
20:2420 minutes, 24 secondsI spoke earlier today with Mr. Coat.
20:3020 minutes, 30 secondsWe Mr. coat has submitted a price to us to repave a bunch of roads,
20:3720 minutes, 37 secondsspending the money, the proceeds of the sale from the tidle property. Uh I think he's getting a little antsy
20:4420 minutes, 44 seconds[clears throat] to to do that. There's not a budget amendment this month. U probably if we do it at the June county commission meeting, put that money.
20:5620 minutes, 56 secondsHe doesn't want to call the paper till he has the money. We I guess we can do it one of two ways.
21:0421 minutes, 4 secondsWe can have a budget amendment at this month's county court meeting that didn't go through this committee if if he wants to get it ready in time or it can be
21:1221 minutes, 12 secondsnext month. I think he was wondering since he's missed getting it in here. Do y'all have any preferences on that?
21:2121 minutes, 21 secondsDoes anybody have any preferences on that? I think he can have the budget amendment ready ready to go by the meeting in a couple three weeks, couple weeks.
21:3621 minutes, 36 secondsHe he doesn't want to schedule the the paper until
21:4421 minutes, 44 secondsany uh preference or discussion on that that
21:5321 minutes, 53 secondsI don't have a problem having it county commission meeting 276
22:0022 minuteswe do it at the county commission obviously we just have to vote to set the rules aside so we can approve I'll I'll do my best to get a [clears throat]
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondshold of Ronald and have him just plan on doing it for this month this month.
22:1422 minutes, 14 secondsI believe he's been a little busy taking care of his mother.
22:1822 minutes, 18 secondsI know there's some paving that we're helping with state aid that definitely I feel like needs to go. The other ones are
22:2722 minutes, 27 secondsdepends on the will of this body. So that's all that's all. Thank you, Commissioner Clark.
22:3822 minutes, 38 secondsIt's okay. I'm going to stand back here.
22:4022 minutes, 40 secondsI hope that my part will not take off tonight. Um, I want to just start by saying thank you for last week and the discussion and the thoughtful questions
22:4822 minutes, 48 secondsthat you brought to me. Um, pretty quickly after the county commission meeting, we met um over at the board
22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsoffice, the school board met, and we had some really good discussion that night.
23:0023 minutesUm ultimately at the end of that meeting it was decided that uh we would or the board wanted to accept the 4 cent
23:0823 minutes, 8 secondsproperty tax um increase for our uh current budget and I believe that is the copy that you have in front of you
23:1523 minutes, 15 secondstonight that reflects the 4 cents. Um we know that we have some rough waters ahead. We know that, you know, there are
23:2423 minutes, 24 secondsum lots of decisions that we're going to have to make to uh be, you know, better stewards of of funds and to curb
23:3323 minutes, 33 secondsspending. As I explained to you last week, uh we're going to continue to need your help with that. And so, we would continue to ask. I believe you also have
23:4123 minutes, 41 secondsa copy of the maintenance projects. Um we're going to keep that the same. Um there is no additions to those. I think that might have been a little bit of
23:4923 minutes, 49 secondsconfusion that there will be no additions to the maintenance projects, the same ones that we asked for last week. But again, thank you so much um
23:5723 minutes, 57 secondsfor, you know, offering us the four cents. We're excited about that. Happy to get that. So, I'll take any questions that you have.
24:0924 minutes, 9 secondsAny questions? Of course, um you know, this committee would either ac
24:1724 minutes, 17 secondsaccept or reject um the current budget that you all have in front of you. So
24:2424 minutes, 24 secondscan't really dictate by line, but we can either approve or reject it.
24:4024 minutes, 40 secondsAny discussion?
24:4624 minutes, 46 secondsUm we we're very fortunate. Uh, Commissioner Gok has done a great job being our budget chairman for the last
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsseveral years and he's got a pretty good feel I think for the county budget system. Also, we
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondsreally fortunate that he spent four years as a school board member. Um, and having been the budget chairman more
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondsthan I like to think about, uh, I know that you get in a situation where you're kind of hamstrung by the rules. So, um,
25:1825 minutes, 18 secondsI'm not sure if Commissioner Guian wants to speak to this, but I'd like to make a motion that we set aside the rules and
25:2725 minutes, 27 secondsallow the chairman of the budget committee to enter into the debate on this particular
25:3425 minutes, 34 secondsmatter without you. He still can't make motions, but let him more freely enter enter into the debate and the discussion
25:4225 minutes, 42 secondsas we move forward on this. So, I got a motion by Commissioner Nash, second by Commissioner Pickard, uh, to
25:5025 minutes, 50 secondskind of set aside the rules so I can talk more freely, I guess, is sort of to speak. So, um, is there any discussion?
26:0026 minutesAll in favor say I. I. Oppos.
26:0426 minutes, 4 secondsI guess I I guess I can talk a little more freely. Um I will uh you know I've looked at the
26:1026 minutes, 10 secondsbudget and I am familiar with uh the budget and um you know serving four
26:1726 minutes, 17 secondsyears on on the uh school board. It's um you know that was that was my first time to serve on any kind of uh I guess
26:2526 minutes, 25 secondselected office. But I will say, you know, our maintenance of effort, and I think I pointed it out the other night, that's that's an 11% increase.
26:3726 minutes, 37 seconds11% increase. We told every in county general, we told them to cap at 4%.
26:4426 minutes, 44 secondsUm, you know, I think our growth, when we looked at our growth, it was about 3%. I
26:5226 minutes, 52 secondsknow that the appraisals, you know, are went out and obviously the the whole value went up, but the the rates coming
26:5926 minutes, 59 secondsdown. Um, that's that's a huge commitment from from from this board. And I feel like [clears throat] that's a lot of money.
27:0927 minutes, 9 secondsIt's just a lot of money. When you look at our current uh prior year maintenance of effort, it was 6.1 million and this would add another 710,000.
27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsI think I I figured up like 11 and a half%. So I uh you know I when we have to discuss
27:3027 minutes, 30 secondstax rate increases it's nothing that any of us want to do. Um and and and definitely something that you know we we
27:3827 minutes, 38 secondsall [clears throat] take lose sleep over I feel like. So 4 cents to me is seems like an a pretty lofty um increase. So,
27:4827 minutes, 48 secondsyou know, I I don't know if we can do some more with the local option sales tax, but I I feel like that that might be a lever that that we could we could
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondspull um and potentially, you know, either eliminate or reduce that that 4
28:0328 minutes, 3 secondscent request. Uh so, that's some of my thoughts about it. I I know I know
28:1128 minutes, 11 secondsthings are going up and I know that the board put a lot of time and effort because I've been on that side and I I know it's it's rough. Um and I'm on this
28:1928 minutes, 19 secondsside now and I know it's rough. Uh so it's it's it's rough for everybody. Um but you know it's just when you look at
28:2828 minutes, 28 secondsTISA uh funding, you know, it went it went up 286,000 off of uh 25 million. It went up 286,000 This request is for 710,000.
28:4128 minutes, 41 secondsSo what what they're receiving from the state went up 286, but the requesting from this body and the taxpayers is 710.
28:5228 minutes, 52 secondsSo that 286 equates to about a little over 1%. So
28:5928 minutes, 59 secondsI don't have the answers, but you know, I have concerns. So
29:0529 minutes, 5 secondsand now you commission door I think at this point like Mr. Matt said
29:1229 minutes, 12 secondswe can either vote to pass this or to reject it. And
29:2029 minutes, 20 secondsI don't know if any recommendations are valid or necessary tonight, but
29:2829 minutes, 28 secondsuh if there's eight people that are willing to vote for this, I I cannot uh based on what you just said and what I had research had done.
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsSo, uh, Mr. Parliamentary, we can go ahead and do a roll call vote,
29:4529 minutes, 45 secondssee if it passes, send it back and see if the school system can accommodate us here on
29:5429 minutes, 54 secondsoption or looking into that or reducing the 4 cents to 01 something like that.
30:0530 minutes, 5 secondsYeah, I would make a motion. Go ahead.
30:0630 minutes, 6 secondsquestion question.
30:1230 minutes, 12 secondsWhat what are we voting on pass or or [clears throat] reject? Reject on the budget.
30:1930 minutes, 19 secondsYes or no on the budget?
30:2130 minutes, 21 secondsI I suspect that we would need a motion then actually. Yeah, we got to have a motion.
30:2630 minutes, 26 secondsI'm sorry. I I got that. I Well, there's no You can't really call
30:3430 minutes, 34 secondsquestion if there's not. But so you'd have you'd have to make a motion. Is that what you're doing?
30:3930 minutes, 39 secondsMake a motion for roll call to approve or reject. Approve or reject. Yes.
30:4530 minutes, 45 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Jordan to approve or reject the school board school budget.
30:5230 minutes, 52 secondsDoes it have to be a motion to approve or motion to reject?
30:5930 minutes, 59 seconds[laughter]
31:0031 minutesI understand what you're [clears throat] saying. I think the motion needs to be worded. So we say yes or no. Not pass or fail. Right. Right.
31:0731 minutes, 7 secondsLike motion to approve.
31:1031 minutes, 10 secondsMotion to approve as submitted.
31:1531 minutes, 15 secondsAnd then is that the way you want to word it?
31:1731 minutes, 17 secondsA motion. So I got motion by Commissioner Jordan to approve as resubmitted as resubmitted the current budget. Is there a second?
31:3031 minutes, 30 secondsGot second by Commissioner Cheser. Any discussion? Commission Cal.
31:3631 minutes, 36 secondsUm, [clears throat] I do think that we think it would be in good practice.
31:4631 minutes, 46 secondsWell, you know what? We'll [clears throat] see how the vote goes. Yeah. Okay. M. Commission M.
31:5231 minutes, 52 secondsUm, this is a big bite. Um,
32:0132 minutes, 1 secondyou know, so what if we look at this and and and somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
32:0732 minutes, 7 secondsUm, we're looking at and I hate using the word 4 cents because for a bunch of
32:1432 minutes, 14 secondsyears 4 cents meant something to us and it doesn't mean that at all anymore.
32:1932 minutes, 19 secondsIt's a much much larger number. Um, but we're looking at, you know, increasing the property tax
32:2832 minutes, 28 secondsum on this then and I appreciate the cander of some of the conversations that that we're
32:3632 minutes, 36 secondsincreasing the local option sales tax also which collectively
32:4432 minutes, 44 secondsthat is going to create that this increase that I believe if I'm not if
32:5232 minutes, 52 secondsI'm listening correctly was 11% and that's not this year. That's forever. I mean, so that's that's 11%
33:0233 minutes, 2 secondsthat we've just raised the bar for people that come beyond us.
33:0933 minutes, 9 seconds[clears throat]
33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsAnd that that concerns me. Then on top of that, it from what I have understood is we're going to go back to the
33:1633 minutes, 16 secondsproperty tax and hit for another $400,000 and we're going to try to put that in 151. So all three of those things
33:2533 minutes, 25 secondstogether, [cough and clears throat] that's a big that's a big swap in my mind. And so I I when I think about that, I I really it's pretty simple to
33:3433 minutes, 34 secondsme is [clears throat] if I have to take all if I if all three of those issues were somehow on a ballot in front of the
33:4233 minutes, 42 secondspeople of the fourth district, would they approve it? I mean, that's what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to represent them. I do not believe that if
33:5033 minutes, 50 secondsthat that collective formula was on a ballot in front of the people of the district that I represent,
33:5933 minutes, 59 secondsI do not believe that they would approve it. So, you know, as it [clears throat] fits, I'm I I'm going to be voting against this.
34:0934 minutes, 9 secondsCan I Can I still speak? I if there's no objection from the board, I I don't see why
34:1934 minutes, 19 secondsum so and I'm I'm still very brand new to this, but it was my understanding and I may you may you all may correct me if
34:2634 minutes, 26 secondsI'm wrong, but that last year our school system gave up six cents, which essentially would have been the
34:3534 minutes, 35 secondsequivalent of about 4 cents now. And there was not the expectation, that's not the right word, but the thought that
34:4234 minutes, 42 secondswe would ask for it back this year. So that too is a is a thought as you're thinking about, you know, [clears throat] what whether or not you
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondswant to approve this budget. Um, you know, we I think that was maybe a good faith effort on my predecessor's part to
34:5934 minutes, 59 secondskind of give that back to the county and then we're asking for it, thinking at that time that we would ask for that back at this time at this time. So that
35:0835 minutes, 8 secondsis one thought um that I just wanted to add to the conversation.
35:1335 minutes, 13 seconds[clears throat]
35:2135 minutes, 21 secondsAny additional discussion?
35:2535 minutes, 25 secondsCommissioner, I'm sorry. Well, I'm I'm a school employee, so I'm not probably the best to speak on the school budget, but
35:3235 minutes, 32 secondsI think just for clarification purposes, when we adjust that sales tax number, that doesn't necessarily mean this body
35:4035 minutes, 40 secondsis giving the school system any more money there because it's going to come in at 50% of whatever they get anyway.
35:4735 minutes, 47 secondsIt does significantly increase that or thee. So, if we're looking at how much we're taking that up by
35:5435 minutes, 54 seconds710,000, I think that's a very a very valid, you know, concern if, you know,
36:0236 minutes, 2 secondssay the economy were to get bad and we had to guarantee that amount of money.
36:0636 minutes, 6 secondsBut I think just for because the sales tax issue is confusing. I mean, when you look down and see, it looks like we're
36:1336 minutes, 13 secondsgiving them 325,000 additional dollars in sales tax. Well, we've just changed the number on the paper to that much more. they're actually getting 50% of
36:2136 minutes, 21 secondswhatever comes in. So, like I said, thee going up by that much is a concern, but it's not as simple as
36:3136 minutes, 31 secondswe're giving them all this money that you see here. The property tax, yes, the if we decide to fund the capital projects, yes, that's actual additional
36:3936 minutes, 39 secondsmoney. We've But just for for clarification on the the sales tax thing, that that's adjusting a number on
36:4736 minutes, 47 secondspaper and it's adjusting thee. It's not actually giving them more $325,000 more dollars than previous
36:5636 minutes, 56 secondsif I'm right on that because I know that's probably the most confusing part of the the whole school budget.
37:0137 minutes, 1 secondI believe yeah I believe the last meeting and kind of clarified that what we budget we have to do regardless if if
37:0737 minutes, 7 secondssales loc sales local option sales tax comes in. So if we budget 3.3, we've got
37:1437 minutes, 14 secondsto at the end of the year if it doesn't hit that number, we've raised the floor, the safety net for them, so to speak, in a bad year.
37:2237 minutes, 22 secondsThat is correct. And that's the lever that we've, you know, think kind of historically used to help increase I
37:2937 minutes, 29 secondsthink the funding to the schools um if I'm not mistaken.
37:3437 minutes, 34 secondsCommission me on the top off what Clay said, but the capital projects that is not tied to thee.
37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsIf we dec my understanding is if we do it outside of thee, then then we're taking that on as as the county government to to to do that. Yes.
37:5237 minutes, 52 seconds[clears throat]
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondsAny other discussion? If not, we'll call vote. That's Jordan.
38:0538 minutes, 5 secondsNo. Right.
38:0838 minutes, 8 secondsI'm gonna find my piece of paper on this one.
38:1238 minutes, 12 secondsI like [clears throat] to declare conflict, but the interest of my constituents, I vote no.
38:1738 minutes, 17 secondsRicky Murray, no.
38:1938 minutes, 19 secondsKeith Nash, no.
38:2138 minutes, 21 secondsDeon Picker, no.
38:2238 minutes, 22 secondsRon Pucket, I will declare a conflict. Uh, but in the interest of my constituents, vote no.
38:3238 minutes, 32 secondsWayne Thomasson, no.
38:3438 minutes, 34 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes.
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsPaul Calott, yes.
38:3938 minutes, 39 secondsClay Chester, I want to declare a conflict. Uh, but on behalf of my constituents, I will vote yes.
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondsDanny Clark, [clears throat] no.
38:4838 minutes, 48 secondsSteve, no.
38:5038 minutes, 50 secondsJim Har, yes. Got four, yes.
38:5738 minutes, 57 secondsOne absent, nine, no. Four. Yes.
39:0439 minutes, 4 secondsMotion fails to so in essence it's uh the the budget is not approved. So
39:1339 minutes, 13 secondsum we do have some additional meetings set up and I know we'll meet at this regular meeting on the June
39:2339 minutes, 23 secondsthe 8th. the regular budget meeting will be June the 8th for uh that we have this the second Monday of every month. So, um
39:3139 minutes, 31 secondsand if we need to I know we've got one set up for the 14th. I don't think that um there's several that I I know of that
39:3939 minutes, 39 secondswould not be able to make that meeting on the 14th. So, we are going to cancel that meeting unless there's an objection
39:4639 minutes, 46 secondsunless unless eight of you raise your hands and say you can definitely be here which I don't think that that's the case. So, um, and then the next meeting is when?
39:5439 minutes, 54 secondsMay [clears throat] 28th. May 28th.
39:5839 minutes, 58 secondsSo, that's that was a schedule meeting, too.
40:0340 minutes, 3 secondsOh, well, that's one with the revised schedule. Yeah. [clears throat] So, the 28th or you can come back on the 8th. So, all right.
40:1740 minutes, 17 secondsAll right.
40:2040 minutes, 20 secondsany unfinished business medical insurance uh discussion. So I think um
40:2940 minutes, 29 secondswell before we move on with that um when we approve the school budget, do we want to um handle the I guess what's
40:3940 minutes, 39 secondsthe will of this board? Do we want to handle the uh capital request at the same time or we would like to have the
40:4640 minutes, 46 secondsdiscussion on capital request now cuz that's part of it's kind of a pack
40:5440 minutes, 54 secondswell not package but it's we've got a that that was kind of the request from the from the school as well which was
41:0141 minutes, 1 second45,000 mission well I mean and I'm not sure I'm not sure we're being fair to these
41:1041 minutes, 10 secondslike this minute honestly um because I think that we need to give them some sort of guidance but the way this is
41:1741 minutes, 17 secondswrapped up in again just using those three particular points the the property tax increase the effect on thee about
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondswhat we did to on the with the sales tax this it's all kind of a to me it's a a
41:3341 minutes, 33 secondsbundled together I mean th this is something that you know I I I guess I could look at it and say,
41:4041 minutes, 40 seconds"Yeah, but I'd like to know how how what those other pieces of the puzzle are." So, I mean, I'm not trying to put off
41:4841 minutes, 48 secondsthat discussion, but I'm also saying it's not particularly fair to Miss Tidwell if if she walks out of here without some kind of guidance in this.
41:5841 minutes, 58 secondsAnd and and I don't I don't know if anybody wants to present anything. I I certainly don't know what to say about this minute, but I don't think it's
42:0642 minutes, 6 secondsuh a particularly good use of their time, our time. If if we're all trying
42:1442 minutes, 14 secondsto make a decision about what we can and can't do, what we will and wouldn't do in a vacuum, that's that's that's not I just don't think that that's very
42:2242 minutes, 22 secondsproductive. But we having said that though, back to what your original question was, is I I have a hard time
42:3042 minutes, 30 secondssaying, you know, moving forward to this until we see what the other uh other points might be uh within that
42:4042 minutes, 40 secondsprocess because again that you know they could take this and put it in their budget. We I mean there's a lot of things that could end up happening. So,
42:4742 minutes, 47 secondsI guess that's my that would be my concern about uh trying to do anything in regards to the capital projects that are presented. But again, it's all still
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondspart of what we're going to [clears throat] end up doing fiscally this year. And if we do that, obviously there's, you know, I haven't
43:0643 minutes, 6 secondsthere there's some money in the capital projects, but I'm not sure if anybody wants to just go to the well and and tap
43:1443 minutes, 14 secondsinto that 405,000 without adding some revenues into the 151, which would be property
43:2243 minutes, 22 secondstax at this point. So, Any other discussion?
43:3443 minutes, 34 secondsMr. Clark, is the is the intent to keep the increase in the maintenance of effort to 4%.
43:4543 minutes, 45 secondsbecause we've already raised maintenance of effort about 6% just on the adjustment of the
43:5243 minutes, 52 secondslocal auction without any without any pennies and without any capital improvement.
44:0244 minutes, 2 secondsI mean, it's that you looking to to give Miss Tedle some some guidance.
44:1344 minutes, 13 secondsIf if if our objective is to get to that 4%, the capital improvement list is more
44:2144 minutes, 21 secondsthan 4%. A flat budget with that, but that won't affect the maintenance of effort.
44:3044 minutes, 30 secondsI'm I'm I'm willing to handle this totally separate from from everything else.
44:3844 minutes, 38 secondsAnd that's a question. I'm not I'm not offering an opinion either way. That was just a question.
44:4544 minutes, 45 secondsMaintenance of efforts increase 6% just on the adjustment we made to the testament of the local auction.
44:5344 minutes, 53 secondsI think I look back I think our maintenance of effort what we have if we like increased or or I I don't know if it was increase or
45:0145 minutes, 1 secondwhat was came in. I'd have to go back and look at the chart, but I believe it's been between 6 and 8% um if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if you remember
45:1045 minutes, 10 secondsright off the top of your head, but
45:1345 minutes, 13 seconds[cough and clears throat]
45:1345 minutes, 13 secondsum could I make a suggestion that we take a 10-minute recess and maybe there there's some thoughts that
45:2045 minutes, 20 secondscan come together and help them out a little bit.
45:2245 minutes, 22 secondsI got a motion. Got a motion by Commissioner Nash to take a recess second by Commissioner Mayberry. All in favor say I.
45:3045 minutes, 30 secondsAll right, let's go to recess.
45:3545 minutes, 35 secondsBe back at 6:15. [snorts]
58:2658 minutes, 26 seconds111 days. 111 days.
58:3058 minutes, 30 secondsI think we've been picked over day down now.
58:3658 minutes, 36 secondsI think the the discussion that was prior to the recess was just to be able to provide
58:4258 minutes, 42 secondssome additional guidance for the school system. Um, is there any thoughts that anybody wants to to get out there?
58:5958 minutes, 59 secondsCommissioner Ash.
59:0259 minutes, 2 secondsUm in the discussion that I had with several uh during the recess
59:1159 minutes, 11 secondsthere were those who had appeared could entertain u some of this. So [clears throat]
59:2159 minutes, 21 secondsum and again this is just this is the culmination of some conversation.
59:2659 minutes, 26 secondsif the property tax went up by 2 cents and
59:3459 minutes, 34 secondsuh versus the 4 cents that's in there and the local option sales tax we we we
59:4259 minutes, 42 secondspair that back down so that is about 6%.
59:4759 minutes, 47 secondsWhere where would those two numbers be ladies?
59:5659 minutes, 56 secondstogether.
1:00:131 hour, 13 seconds[clears throat]
1:00:151 hour, 15 secondsThank you.
1:00:261 hour, 26 seconds[clears throat]
1:00:291 hour, 29 secondsSo,
1:00:341 hour, 34 seconds[clears throat]
1:00:491 hour, 49 secondsso that that if we did two pennies on the property tax and we pair that local op and again back to commissioner
1:00:571 hour, 57 secondsChester's point I mean that's just all that's doing is just ensuring that the bar doesn't get you know out of whack.
1:01:061 hour, 1 minute, 6 secondsum doesn't really change the real money, but we do those two right there, then that that takes that kind of takes care
1:01:131 hour, 1 minute, 13 secondsof the 141 issue, you know, the the the $400,000
1:01:191 hour, 1 minute, 19 secondsuh over on the capital side. Um I hate to borrow money for 400 to to do that.
1:01:291 hour, 1 minute, 29 secondsI'm a, you know, we can do some things with some AFT money. Even future county commissioners could do some things with
1:01:361 hour, 1 minute, 36 secondsAFT money, transfer money to uh 51 for that. So, um, Crystal, there's no
1:01:441 hour, 1 minute, 44 secondsproblem if we put $45,000 in capital expenditures.
1:01:491 hour, 1 minute, 49 secondsWe don't have to have a revenue stream for that. It can still just come out of fun balance. Correct. Okay. Uh, and then it would be it would truly be something
1:01:561 hour, 1 minute, 56 secondsthat we're looking at as a one-time situation as opposed to raising the property tax allocating it to 151.
1:02:041 hour, 2 minutes, 4 secondsExcuse me. Yeah. 151. And that's something that somebody could look at that as if we did that for, you know, forever.
1:02:121 hour, 2 minutes, 12 secondsSo, and you're shaking your head. You agree with Okay. All right. So, um, that was the
1:02:191 hour, 2 minutes, 19 secondsthat's that was was the filtered discussion that I had with several of the
1:02:281 hour, 2 minutes, 28 secondscommissioners and and I'm not making a motion, but that's that's kind of where the the discussion was
1:02:361 hour, 2 minutes, 36 secondsthat I had with some folks. I don't know what anybody else had.
1:02:431 hour, 2 minutes, 43 secondsAny other thoughts or discussion?
1:02:511 hour, 2 minutes, 51 seconds[clears throat]
1:02:591 hour, 2 minutes, 59 secondsWell, then then in order to test the water, uh, I make a the following motion that
1:03:071 hour, 3 minutes, 7 secondswe send the 141 school budget back to them with those two numbers.
1:03:151 hour, 3 minutes, 15 secondsuh injected in for the local property tax and for the local options tax with
1:03:231 hour, 3 minutes, 23 secondsthe understanding that we're which they don't have any say on capital projects that we're going to put that 405,000
1:03:311 hour, 3 minutes, 31 secondsis a one time in the the 151 budget but we're not anticipating raising any taxes
1:03:391 hour, 3 minutes, 39 secondsfor that. We're just going to use that a we're use the fund balance and and roll with it. A one time contribution.
1:03:471 hour, 3 minutes, 47 secondsThat's the motion I make. Have a motion by Commissioner Nash.
1:03:531 hour, 3 minutes, 53 seconds[snorts]
1:03:551 hour, 3 minutes, 55 secondsWe got a second by Commissioner Pucket.
1:03:581 hour, 3 minutes, 58 secondsAny discussion on the motion on the floor or is there any clarification on the motion on the floor?
1:04:051 hour, 4 minutes, 5 secondsThere's some clarification. Now, this motion that uh we will be voting on is just giving the school board direction.
1:04:131 hour, 4 minutes, 13 secondsIt's not improvement or just giving direction because that's what they as we as we need to do for right. I'll make
1:04:211 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondsthat clear and I will I I'll take some responsibility because really last
1:04:291 hour, 4 minutes, 29 secondsbudget meeting when Commissioner Barnhill made made the motion and tied it to guidance made the motion
1:04:361 hour, 4 minutes, 36 secondsto reject reject the original budget and tied it to some guidance. We probably should have handled those in two separate ways because I would have
1:04:441 hour, 4 minutes, 44 secondsdefinitely voted differently and and I think others would have obviously as well. So, um, I'll take some ownership on that.
1:04:531 hour, 4 minutes, 53 secondsBut any other discussion? Not. Roll call vote.
1:05:001 hour, 5 minutesJim Heron, no.
1:05:021 hour, 5 minutes, 2 secondsDustin Jordan, yes.
1:05:041 hour, 5 minutes, 4 secondsRon Mayberry, declare my conflict again, but yes.
1:05:081 hour, 5 minutes, 8 secondsRicky Murray, yes.
1:05:101 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondsKeith Nash, yes.
1:05:121 hour, 5 minutes, 12 secondsDevin Picker, yes.
1:05:131 hour, 5 minutes, 13 secondsRon Pucket, declaring a conflict also. Yes. Wayne Thomasson. Yes. Matthew Barnhill. Yes.
1:05:211 hour, 5 minutes, 21 secondsPaul Calico. Yes. Clay Chester. No. Danny Clark. Yes. Steve Gianis.
1:05:281 hour, 5 minutes, 28 secondsYes. Two no, one absent, and 11 yes.
1:05:361 hour, 5 minutes, 36 seconds11 yes. Motion carries.
1:05:401 hour, 5 minutes, 40 secondsAnd that handles both parts, the budget as well as the capital requests. So and handled in such
1:05:481 hour, 5 minutes, 48 secondsa way that the motion would would probably be very similar if it came back to this commission. So
1:05:581 hour, 5 minutes, 58 secondsall right now let's go to unfinished business with
1:06:071 hour, 6 minutes, 7 secondsthe medical insurance. um when for the county the medical insurance we were
1:06:131 hour, 6 minutes, 13 secondsgoing going to move it to a tiered um offering to the employees. So we really
1:06:221 hour, 6 minutes, 22 secondsneeded because of those changes we really needed a motion to make that occur and see if there's any other discussion with the medical insurance.
1:06:321 hour, 6 minutes, 32 secondsSo [clears throat] Mr. Nash I make a motion that we approve that the tiered system that was presented. Got a motion by Commissioner Nash, second by Commissioner Clark. Any discussion on the motion on the floor?
1:06:451 hour, 6 minutes, 45 secondsIf not, roll call vote.
1:06:481 hour, 6 minutes, 48 secondsSteve, yes.
1:06:491 hour, 6 minutes, 49 secondsJim Herring, yes.
1:06:511 hour, 6 minutes, 51 secondsDusty Jordan, yes.
1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondsRon Mayberry, yes.
1:06:531 hour, 6 minutes, 53 secondsVicky Murray, yes.
1:06:541 hour, 6 minutes, 54 secondsKeith Nash, yes.
1:06:551 hour, 6 minutes, 55 secondsDeon Picker, yes.
1:06:561 hour, 6 minutes, 56 secondsRon Hook, yes.
1:06:581 hour, 6 minutes, 58 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes.
1:06:591 hour, 6 minutes, 59 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes.
1:07:001 hour, 7 minutesPaul Kell, yes.
1:07:021 hour, 7 minutes, 2 secondsClay Chester, yes.
1:07:031 hour, 7 minutes, 3 secondsDanny Clark, yes. 13. Yes.
1:07:101 hour, 7 minutes, 10 seconds13. Yes. Motion carries.
1:07:131 hour, 7 minutes, 13 secondsCrystal, is there anything else that we need to talk about?
1:07:171 hour, 7 minutes, 17 secondsUm, the only thing I just want to clarify because I know the motion said that they were okay with the tier two system, but there was multiple changes.
1:07:241 hour, 7 minutes, 24 secondsWas that for all the changes or Well, I think we'd need another motion if we wanted to say that. Okay.
1:07:311 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondsWe're with with the with the medical changes. Is that what you're saying?
1:07:351 hour, 7 minutes, 35 secondsYes. Yes. Because we we also offered that secondary plan uh implemented a er co-pay for ER visits and things like that. So, Gotcha.
1:07:451 hour, 7 minutes, 45 secondsThere there was a few other changes.
1:07:471 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondsBe open for another motion to approve the overall medical insurance as we have discussed and budgeted.
1:07:541 hour, 7 minutes, 54 secondsMotion by Commissioner Mayberry, second by Commissioner Pucket. Any discussion on that?
1:08:021 hour, 8 minutes, 2 secondsThis covers everything. All changes. All changes. Yes.
1:08:111 hour, 8 minutes, 11 seconds[clears throat]
1:08:111 hour, 8 minutes, 11 secondsRoll call. Steve. Yes. Jim Haron. Yes. Dusty Jordan. Yes. Ron Mayberry. Yes. Ricky Murray. Yes. Keith Nash.
1:08:191 hour, 8 minutes, 19 secondsYes. Deon Piger. Yes. Ron Pucket. Yes. Wayne Thomasson? Yes. Matthew Barhill? Yes. Calico? Yes. Chester? Yes.
1:08:261 hour, 8 minutes, 26 secondsDanny Clark? Yes. 13? Yes. 13? Yes. Motion carried. Now we're good. Right.
1:08:351 hour, 8 minutes, 35 secondsany new business?
1:08:401 hour, 8 minutes, 40 seconds[clears throat]
1:08:441 hour, 8 minutes, 44 secondsUm, the only thing that I had was uh I did a amended revised budget schedule if you don't care if we're voting on that.
1:08:521 hour, 8 minutes, 52 secondsOh, so that was edited out the last uh it was in your packets and I I can pull it up.
1:09:001 hour, 9 minutesIs that in there?
1:09:021 hour, 9 minutes, 2 seconds[clears throat]
1:09:081 hour, 9 minutes, 8 secondsUm the new budget schedule um we we cancelled the meeting on the 14th uh for this if we could get the schools and the
1:09:171 hour, 9 minutes, 17 secondssolid waste done and committee approval by the 28th. We can have the budget booked to commission by June 1st. We can
1:09:241 hour, 9 minutes, 24 secondsget it published in the paper by June 4th. Um, and then we can do our public hearing on the same night as our regular budget meeting on the 8th, maybe after
1:09:331 hour, 9 minutes, 33 secondswhile everybody's here, so they don't have to come back. Uh, and then we can approve it in county commission on the 22nd.
1:09:421 hour, 9 minutes, 42 secondsIt's on the very bot. It's the last page of the 67 page. Sorry. Sorry.
1:09:491 hour, 9 minutes, 49 secondsIt's the very last.
1:09:531 hour, 9 minutes, 53 secondsSo, I just look for a motion to uh approve it and uh what you received crossing off the the May 14th.
1:10:021 hour, 10 minutes, 2 secondsGot a motion by Commissioner Picker, second by Commissioner Herren. Any discussion?
1:10:111 hour, 10 minutes, 11 secondsAll in favor say I. I opposed. eyes have anything else there that we need to cover off?
1:10:211 hour, 10 minutes, 21 secondsI'd take a motion for us to close the motion by Commissioner Bar second by Commission Mayberry. All in favor say I.
1:10:301 hour, 10 minutes, 30 secondsThank y'all.
1:10:451 hour, 10 minutes, 45 secondsYeah, I can get that now. Trying to see if