Solid Waste Committee · Meeting · Aug 3, 2026 · 5:00 PM
Mon, Aug 3, 2026
Guides landfill operations, recycling, convenience centers, and collection policies for household and commercial waste across the county.
Outline
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The committee granted a resident’s request to waive a $103 one-time solid waste charge after hearing that the bill had been mailed to an old tax-record address and the resident had already paid the underlying $90 and $110 amounts once the issue was discovered. The committee also approved proceeding with a Caterpillar undercarriage for the landfill trackhoe, favoring the higher-priced option because it included a 3,000-hour warranty and the machine has nearly 9,760 hours.
Financial and operational discussion focused on heavy equipment repairs, strong early-year collections, landfill tonnage, recycling and metals revenue, Perry County’s continued use of Hickman County’s transfer service at $66.70 per ton, exemption/write-off mechanics for vacant and low-income properties, compactor refurbishment to stop leaks at convenience centers, and plans to prepare a business billing list for rollout in January.
Approval of Agenda and Minutes
- The committee approved the agenda/checks without recorded controversy.
- The committee approved prior meeting minutes without recorded controversy.
Public Comments
Resident request to waive solid waste charge
- A resident addressed the committee about a vacant property on Laws Branch that later became her home. She said she did not realize she was supposed to receive a solid waste bill and learned the bill had been sent to her former Doyle address listed in tax records.
- She said she had already paid the underlying $90 and $110 charges and asked that the additional $103 one-time amount be waived because she never received the original bill or follow-up notice.
- A motion was made and seconded to waive the charge.
- The committee approved the waiver by roll-call vote, with all members heard voting yes.
- During discussion, staff clarified that the county had mailed the bill to the address shown on the tax record, so the problem was not described as a county mailing failure but as an address-record issue.
Department / Official Reports
Finance report
- The finance report highlighted pressure in budget line 336 for maintenance and repair services for equipment.
- The landfill had already spent more than $20,000 from that line, driven largely by three major repair purchase orders for the trackhoe, including radiator damage and labor required to remove the counterweight for repair work.
- Even with that work coming in under budget, the committee was told the line was already about 39% used early in the fiscal year.
- Revenue was described as generally on track, with one reporting lag: credit card payments are processed through BIS, deposited into a separate checking account, and transferred to the trustee only monthly.
- Because that transfer had not yet occurred in the new fiscal year, budget line 43106 appeared artificially low at 2.32%, even though card collections had been made.
- Staff said the county had actually collected 21.5% of the budgeted solid waste disposal fee so far.
- Monthly totals presented: about $145,000 spent and $311,666.73 collected.
- The committee accepted the finance report without recorded opposition.
Operations and tonnage report
- The department reported moving 2,002 tons of material during the month.
- Of that total, 1,448 tons were Class I waste shipped to Camden and 413 tons were buried in Hickman County.
- Recycling/diversion details included 86 tons of cardboard, 29 tons of ferrous metal, and 4.78 tons of non-ferrous metal such as copper, brass, aluminum, and stainless steel.
- Staff said trustees working at the landfill have been sorting and upgrading some metals instead of selling all mixed scrap at low steel prices.
- The county diverted 27% of waste from the Camden Class I landfill and sold about 7% of the material handled that month.
- Convenience center traffic was described as following recent trends, with the busiest sites still Four-Way, Shady Grove, and Pinewood; staff noted Pinewood appears to be closing the gap with Shady Grove.
Scheduling of next meeting
- The committee discussed whether the next meeting should occur on the usual first Monday in September, which falls on Labor Day.
- Discussion centered on the election-year calendar, the nominating committee, and whether newly elected members would affect the September schedule.
- No final fixed date was set during this exchange; the committee indicated it would likely sort out the calendar after county court/commission discussions later in the month.
Perry County waste contract and tipping-fee implications
- Staff reported that Perry County is still bringing trash to Hickman County.
- Hickman County is charging Perry County $66.70 per ton for the service.
- Staff said Perry County had previously indicated it intended to move on and bid the work out, and that a trucking bid had been obtained while Perry County worked with Waste Management on logistics.
- The apparent obstacle is equipment/layout: Perry County uses a compactor, while Hickman County uses a retaining wall and pushes trash into a trailer, so operational details still need to be worked out.
- Staff said he could not imagine Perry County continuing long-term at $66.70 per ton, especially since Hickman County is paying about $52 to have its own waste shipped out.
- The committee was told that if Perry County unexpectedly remained at the current rate, that outside revenue could help justify lowering Hickman County’s own tipping fee in a future year.
- No action was taken on the Perry County arrangement at this meeting.
Equipment repairs, compactor restoration, and trackhoe undercarriage approval
- Staff said the department had a difficult month on equipment, with multiple small breakdowns and one major issue requiring Caterpillar to come out three times.
- The trackhoe was down for about a week.
- To avoid renting equipment, the department borrowed stored equipment from the sheriff’s side, which allowed operations to continue temporarily.
- Staff noted that transfer trailer density dropped by about 30% during this workaround, which was manageable short-term but not sustainable because it affects hauling economics.
- The department also returned two idle machines to service: a backhoe and a forklift transferred from EMA.
- On convenience-center infrastructure, staff said leaking compactors have been creating a mess, especially at East.
- Rather than buying new units, the department is rebuilding three compactors by installing new floor steel, painting them, and resealing rear doors to stop wastewater leaks.
- One compactor is finished, one is in progress, and a third is expected to be completed during the month.
- Staff said each rebuild costs less than 10% of the price of a new compactor and should produce a visible improvement at the sites.
Trackhoe undercarriage purchase
- The committee reviewed three quotes for the trackhoe undercarriage: two aftermarket options and one Caterpillar option.
- Staff explained that the undercarriage includes the tracks and the rollers/components the machine rides on, and that wear is expected over time.
- The recommendation was to choose Caterpillar because it offered a 3,000-hour warranty, even though it cost about $4,000 more than the aftermarket bids.
- A committee member asked about hours on the machine; staff reported about 9,760 hours.
- The budget had anticipated $20,000 for the trackhoe undercarriage and another $20,000 for the track loader undercarriage, both within a $90,000 maintenance-and-repair budget line.
- Staff said the track loader’s undercarriage was installed about five years ago and currently measures about 70% to 85% worn, so that replacement is expected later, likely in the spring.
- Staff also noted that the extra revenue from Perry County for the month essentially covered the difference on the selected undercarriage option.
- A motion was made and seconded to proceed with the Caterpillar undercarriage.
- The motion passed by roll-call vote, with all members heard voting yes.
Billing, collections, exemptions, and business list
- Staff reported that 25.86% of this year’s bills had been resolved.
- He explained the difference between that figure and the 21.5% revenue collection figure by noting that exemptions reduce billed amounts without appearing as revenue.
- Negative adjustments/exemptions totaled $47,905, primarily for vacant homes and low-income/fixed-income residents.
- Exemptions were said to equal about 3.71% of the total volume of invoices.
- Combining revenue collections and exemptions, staff said about 25.25% of billed volume had effectively been resolved.
- The committee also asked about a list of businesses to be billed for solid waste service.
- Staff said that list is complete and the plan is to start billing those businesses in January.
- He suggested bringing the list to the committee beforehand so members could contact affected businesses before they receive unexpected bills, possibly at the October or November meeting for the benefit of new commissioners.
Recycling markets and trustee labor
- Staff reported sales of $4,792 in copper, brass, aluminum, and circuit boards.
- He said these materials would otherwise have been sold as mixed scrap for about 6 cents per pound, so the upgraded sorting creates additional value.
- After subtracting what the county would have received from ordinary scrap sales, the net gain was described as closer to $3,100.
- Trustees put about 80 hours into the sorting work during the month, roughly 2 to 3 hours per day on workdays.
- Staff estimated the upgraded sorting generated about $35 per hour in added value.
- He also said the program is operationally flexible: if trustee labor is unavailable, the county can stop sorting and simply ship the material as regular scrap without creating a storage crisis, unlike cardboard when the baler is down.
- Plastic markets remain difficult. Staff said brokers do not currently want the county’s plastic bottles, though they strongly want jugs/buckets and have been calling repeatedly about those loads.
- Staff is trying to negotiate mixed loads, such as 25 bales of bottles with 25 bales of buckets, to move bottle inventory that is otherwise hard to sell.
- Committee sentiment was that even discounted or free movement of bottles would be better than landfilling them.
- Staff said he would attend a conference on the 19th and hoped those market contacts could help resolve the plastics issue.
Convenience center signage
- A committee member said he had visited a convenience center and saw a new sign stating the due date on the bill.
- Members reacted positively and said the sign should help reduce late payments and people falling behind.
Adjournment
- The meeting concluded after final comments on signage and operations.
Key figures and statistics
| Figure | Type | Context / topic |
|---|---|---|
| $302 | Bill total | Resident’s total solid waste bill discussed in waiver request |
| $90 | Payment | Amount resident said she had paid |
| $110 | Payment | Additional amount resident said she had paid |
| $103 | Fee / waiver | One-time charge waived by committee |
| 336 | Budget line | Maintenance and repair services for equipment |
| 3 | Purchase orders | Major repair purchase orders for the trackhoe |
| $20,000 | Expense to date | Amount already spent from equipment-repair line |
| 39% | Budget usage | Portion of repair budget line already used |
| 43106 | Revenue line | Solid waste disposal fee line affected by credit-card transfer timing |
| 2.32% | Reported revenue status | Apparent percentage on card-related budget line before transfer |
| 21.5% | Collections rate | Share of budgeted solid waste disposal fee collected so far |
| $145,000 | Monthly spending | Approximate amount spent this month |
| $311,666.73 | Monthly collections | Amount collected this month |
| 2,002 tons | Tonnage | Total material moved during the month |
| 1,448 tons | Tonnage | Class I waste shipped to Camden |
| 413 tons | Tonnage | Waste buried in Hickman County |
| 86 tons | Tonnage | Cardboard handled |
| 29 tons | Tonnage | Ferrous metal handled |
| 4.78 tons | Tonnage | Non-ferrous metal handled |
| 27% | Diversion rate | Waste diverted from the Camden Class I landfill |
| 7% | Sales share | Share of handled material sold |
| $66.70 per ton | Rate | What Perry County is paying Hickman County |
| $52 per ton | Cost | Approximate shipping/disposal cost Hickman County pays for its own waste |
| 3 times | Service calls | Caterpillar callouts during equipment trouble |
| 1 week | Downtime | Trackhoe downtime |
| 30% | Density change | Drop in transfer trailer weights/density during workaround |
| 3 | Compactors | Number of compactors being restored |
| less than 10% | Cost comparison | Rebuild cost relative to buying a new compactor |
| 3 | Quotes | Number of undercarriage quotes received |
| 3,000 hours | Warranty | Caterpillar undercarriage warranty |
| $4,000 | Price difference | Extra cost of Caterpillar option over aftermarket |
| 9,760 hours | Equipment usage | Hours on the trackhoe |
| $20,000 | Budgeted amount | Trackhoe undercarriage allowance |
| $20,000 | Budgeted amount | Track loader undercarriage allowance |
| $90,000 | Budget line total | Total maintenance/repair budget discussed |
| 5 years | Time period | Approximate age of track loader undercarriage |
| 70% to 85% | Wear estimate | Measured wear range on track loader undercarriage |
| 25.86% | Billing resolution rate | Share of this year’s bills resolved |
| $47,905 | Exemptions / adjustments | Vacant-home and low-income/fixed-income exemptions |
| 3.71% | Exemption rate | Share of total invoice volume exempted |
| 25.25% | Effective resolution rate | Collections plus exemptions combined |
| $4,792 | Revenue | Sale of copper, brass, aluminum, and circuit boards |
| 6 cents per pound | Scrap rate | What the material would have brought as mixed scrap |
| $3,100 | Net value estimate | Approximate added value after subtracting ordinary scrap revenue |
| 80 hours | Labor | Trustee labor spent sorting upgraded metals |
| 2 to 3 hours per day | Labor rate | Typical daily trustee time on sorting work |
| $35 per hour | Value estimate | Approximate return on trustee sorting labor |
| 25 bales | Bale count | Example mixed-load quantity for plastic bottles |
| 25 bales | Bale count | Example mixed-load quantity for buckets/jugs |
| 19th | Date | Conference staff plans to attend for recycling-market contacts |
| January | Implementation date | Planned start of business billing list rollout |
I'll do it. Jim Herring. Here. Danny Clark. Here. Matthew Barnhill. Here. Steve Gnocchi. Here. Jesse Jordan. Devin Picker. Here. Ricky Murray. Here. Nicky Bates. Here. All right, I'll take a motion. Approve the check. Second. Motion by Devin. Second by Mr. Herring. All in favor? Aye. I guess nobody signed up for other comments. This lady right here. She's on their own tab. She's on their own tab. We've tried, haven't we? We're sorry. We was trying. Not just yet. No, we were trying to get you up here. We jumped the gun. I'll take a motion to approve. Motion to approve the minutes. Do not. Second. Mr. Herring. All in favor? Aye. I now. Mr. Roberson. Here. Mr. Herring. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. All in favor? Aye. Yeah. Good afternoon. I appreciate you listening to my plea. I've had vacant property on Law's Branch for several years. I built a house, moved in last year. It never occurred to me that I was supposed to receive the solid waste bill. So, when I get the bill this year for 302 dollars, I called and I was told—well, it was sent to the Doyle, my previous address. So, I paid the 90, I've paid the 110. I put it in the new address. So, since I didn't get the bill or a second request, I'm just asking if the 103 one-time waive could be waived. I think we've done something like that in the past where situations were—I'll make a motion to waive it. I second it. All right. We'll do a roll call vote on this. Jim Herron? Yes. Dan Clark? Yes. Matthew Barnhill? Yes. Steve Giannopoulos? Yes. Dustin Jordan? Yes. Devin Pickard? Yes. Ricky Murray? Yes. Becky Bates? Yes. Thank you. Ricky Murray? Yes. Dan Clark? Yes. Matthew Barnhill? Yes. Steve Giannopoulos? Yes. Dan Clark? Yes. Thank you. Ricky Murray? Yes. Dan Clark? Yes. Steve Giannopoulos? Yes. Thank you. Dan Clark? Yes. Ricky Murray? Yes. Thank you. Dan Clark? Yes. Yes. Thank you. We appreciate it. You're more than welcome. And that way, of course, we directly report to you. I will say this in regard to that. I need you to be mad at me if I didn't say this. This was—it wasn't the result of a county estimate. You know, a mailing—we sent the bill to the address on the tax record. Oh, gotcha. How are you gonna take it out? Dan, yeah. The first report in here is the Finance Department's statement of spending and— The most notable thing on here is 336, which is our Maintenance and Repair Services for Equipment. We had to take out three pretty big purchase orders for repairs on the TRACO. That job came in under budget, but we still have spent over $20,000 out of that budget line so far. There's a hole in the radiator, and we had to tear apart the hole to take the counterweight off. Anyway, that's why that budget line is— It's like 39% used right now. Our revenue is on track. Right now, we get our credit card payments come in a month late, so the way credit— We swap the card, the money goes to BIS, that money gets deposited monthly from BIS into a checking account, and then once a month, we transfer the money from that card account to the trustee. That hasn't happened this fiscal year, so budget line 43106 is at 2.32% because it's not showing the cards. What's going on there are we've collected 21.5% of the solid waste disposal fee that we've budgeted for so far, and the rest of the budget lines are on track. To summarize, this month we've spent about $145,000 and collected $311,666.73. I'll take any questions on the finance reports. I'll take any questions on the finance reports. Jim Herron? Yes. Danny Clark? Yes. Matthew Barnhill? Yes. Ricky Murray? Yes. Becky Bates? Yes. All right. This month, we have moved 2,002 tons of material around. About 1,448 tons of that was Class I waste that was shipped to Camden, and then 413 tons was stuff we buried here in Hickman County. We did pretty well on cardboard this month at 86 tons. Our metal, 29 tons. That's pretty much average, but a little higher than average. And then we moved 4.78 tons of non-ferrous metal. That's metal that doesn't stick to a magnet. Everything from copper, brass, aluminum, stainless steel. This is work that's done by trustees at the landfill. I've got more of a breakdown of it later on. We're branching out from just regular scrap. We usually just load everything that's metal up into a box and sell it at a steel price. But when we have time, we're going in and parting up some of this stuff and trying to upgrade it. So we diverted 27% of our waste from the landfill. And 7% of that, we diverted 27% of the waste from the Camden landfill, Camden Class I landfill, and then we sold 7% of the material we handled this month. And then the convenience centers are just kind of like on track with the same trend that we've been seeing This is the busiest fall by four-way shady grove in Pinewood. But Pinewood seems to be catching up with shady grove more and more. So that's all I've got to say. I'll field any questions on the tonnage report. Alright, so the next holiday is Labor Day, which is the first Monday of September. I think in the past we just did Tuesday after. Well, this year will be different because this election year we'll have a committee, what do you call it? Nominating committee. Yeah, that'll meet Thursday, but it really don't take effect until the county commission meeting at the end of the month. That's my understanding when I talk to you. And you can correct me if I'm wrong. What was the question? I was reading it. When should we schedule the next solid waste meeting? The next Monday on Labor Day? Would it be election year? What we did last time was all that was resolved before the first of September, so I don't see any reason you couldn't have the solid waste on the first Monday like you usually do. Oh, I get it. There's no court meeting. That's correct. It's a nominating committee. I don't remember what we did last time. I don't think we did. I don't remember us meeting in September. I don't think we did. I think we met in October was the first time. That's a newly elected individual. That's what I'm thinking. So we'll play that one by ear after county court. I think that's probably going to be what you have to do. That'd be the time we'd probably have that discussion. When we do the calendar at the meeting on the the glorious meeting on the 24th. We can figure it out then. All right. We'll work to deal out with the with the the landfill consultant who's going to start work. Perry County is still bringing trash to Hickman County. We're charging them 66.70 a ton. They're working on bidding this out. They're going to get a better bid than 66.70? I don't see how they couldn't get a better bid. I don't see how they couldn't get a better bid than 66.70. We're paying $52 to have it shipped out for us. And they're paying us 66 to have it shipped for them to bring it to us. And I spoke with them. He said the hang up currently is they have a compactor in there. We have a retaining wall. We push the trash into a trailer where our trailer is they have a compactor and so they're working with waste management to figure all those details out. I'm not tracking it too closely. It's kind of their business. That's the current situation is that they're bringing it to us. Um Any thoughts on that? The situation is he called us when we were doing our budget and said we're moving on. I came here and you know we're about to lose a big client and then um after the fiscal year I called him and I'm like we stay in contact pretty regularly just because we can talk about little issues that come up and I was like so have you spoke with waste management and he said yeah we've got a bid from the trucking company and we're working a deal out with waste management and that's where they're at right now working it out with waste management I do see you know if they just come forward and say you know we're just going to stick with what we got then they'll be um you know we'll we'll have justification to potentially lower the tipping for your solid waste for you next year but I do not they haven't said anything about that being a possibility they've said we want a lower tipping fee because they're paying like 20% of their taxes right now to Hickman County for trash so I can't imagine that they will continue doing that anyway so that's the situation with Perry County um we had a tough month on equipment we had a bunch of little repairs stuff was breaking we did everything internally except for the tractor which I spoke about earlier Caterpillar had to come out three times um and we were down that machine was down for a week and we were able to get by without renting equipment because what the sheriff's been doing like bringing us out like storing equipment on our side so we were able to use some of the stored equipment from the sheriff to get by now we uh our transfer trailer density is something we have to track for our weights on the trailers went down by 30% which we couldn't do that forever because it messes with their business and they'll you know bill us for it um but it's like short term it worked out really well to have that stuff there um um and then we fixed two machines that have been just sitting out idle uh not working so we uh we got our backhoe back in operation and a forklift that was over at EMA which they transferred over to us um and then we've been fixing up our compactors you know one of the problems at like east is that the compactors leak and that creates a kind of mess out there and so we are restoring these compactors so we're putting new steel in the floors and painting them and resealing the back doors so they don't leak and it's kind of a we've got three that will kind of solve the waste water leaking problem that you see out at east um we've got one done I've got one getting worked on now and then this month we'll finish up the third one um and you know a new compactor like we're getting this done for like less than 10% of the cost of a new compactor so that'll be like a highly visible um improvement to the centers and then our trackhoe uh this is something we plan for in the budget our trackhoe needs an undercarriage um we've got three quotes one from Fleet Dynamics and Key those are both like for aftermarket uh undercarriages and then we got one from Caterpillar which is a Caterpillar undercarriage this is like the tracks and the rollers that the trackhoe sits on so it's the tracks and then the things that the tracks roll against and so it just wears out you know over time with tracking around um so we've got three options Caterpillar, Caterpillar parts and then the aftermarket options Caterpillar's doing a 3,000 hour warranty which is about a year a little over a year for us and so my suggestion is to go with Caterpillar um due to the warranty even though they're $4,000 more um how many hours is on the trackhoe now? 9,760 something hours still original undercarriage? I would go with Caterpillar Is it a Caterpillar machine? Yes sir What number did you allow on the budget for it? You said it was allowed 20,000. 20? Yeah but I mean I budgeted when I was doing the budget I budgeted 20,000 for the the uh it's all in the 336 budget which has which was $90,000 and we budgeted for two undercarriages one for the trackhoe and then one for the track excavator and um not the track excavator the track loader and uh track loader we're tracking wear on it like so we go in they have like wear parts and like you have specs and so you get your calipers out and measure you know the thickness of something thickness of the part and then compare it to the chart and it tells you percent wore on the crawler loader which has which got an undercarriage about five years ago were like 70 to 85 percent worn and so um that's something that will kind of come later like in the spring that one but anyway to answer your question it was 20,000 for each one is what we budgeted but the money we made off Perry County this month about covers the difference Correct Do you need a motion for us to go with that or do you You didn't make me feel good to have a motion I'll make a second Alright Jim do we do a vote Yeah okay Jim Herron Yes Nate Clark Yes Matthew Barnhill Yes Professor Jordan Yes Thank you Um so the uh we resolved 25.86% of this years bills and you might be like well earlier you said when you were going over the revenue that only 21% of the money come in but we've done we do exemptions which don't get counted in revenue obviously so so this final page will show voided or subtract so adjustments negative adjustments are where we you know your low income or unoccupied homes those you know a home that's a home that's vacant doesn't you know is exempt from the bill and so it's $47,905 is uh from vacant homes and low income you know fixed income people and um so right now like 3.71% of the total volume of invoices is being exempted so you have to add that to the revenue so right now we're at 25.25% resolved so we talked about non-fairness scrap um we sold $4,792 worth of copper brass, aluminum and uh and circuit boards so the second to last page this spreadsheet here it breaks it down and this is all stuff that would have just been sold at six cents a pound and so you pick something that you'd sell at six cents a pound and you know yeah but it's kind of backwards you know when you're talking about cardboard you have to add the cost of disposal to it but when you're talking about these upgraded metals you have to subtract the cost that you would sell it for from it and so when you do that that $4,792 um looks more like $3,100 um they put about 80 hours into it two to three hours this is trustee labor so they put two to three hours a day for the work days last month so it kind of comes out to about $35 an hour when you take off the revenue from just selling it as scrap so try to keep it going and oh the other good thing about it is so we take cardboard if you know the cardboard bailer is down the whole building fills up with cardboard and we're a big huge bind but with this if you know say the trustees get laid down like they can't they aren't let out to work then we just load it up in the scrap metal and send it on its way it doesn't cause a problem so um that's a benefit to this program is we can kind of stop or pause it and then just sell it as regular scraps and then we're having trouble moving plastic bottles so um the brokers don't want our plastic bottles but at the same time they want our jugs or buckets and so I'm trying to get them to let us they really want our buckets like I don't know they're calling every other day about buckets so we'll try to like be like well you can have the buckets you know take some of our bottles and see if they'll do like a mixed load because usually what you do is you have like you get 50 bales of buckets and you sell it or you get 50 bales of bottles and you sell them I'm trying to work it out whether they'll take a mixed load so like 25 bales of bottles 25 bales of buckets and uh we're going to a conference or I'm going to a conference in the 5th like the 19th and that's where I think I can some of those deals can if they took them for free anything off of them is better than not going into them yeah there's a lot of bottles that get recycled I would say yeah yeah we could absolutely even like taking a deduction on the on the good plastic in order to take a deduction on if we were to get $150 a ton for the buckets with something like this we might get like $110 or something like that just to move the bottles out of the recycling center anyway that's fine that's all I've got on solid waste so we uh you got any updates on the list from yes the list is done and I think yeah the list is done and we're going to bill it in January yeah I was going to prepare a list or get the list to y'all and then maybe we could reach out to the businesses that you know ahead of time before they just get a random bill um I can do that next for the November meeting or October maybe something for the new commissioners um I did go out to the convenience center yesterday and I saw the sign where he put up and says when the due date is on the bill I'd like that yeah I thought it'd help people a little bit from getting behind right there I like it yeah it's orange banks probably won't like that color Auburn Orange is fine got one base that'll go along with it rest up for good well not Auburn Orange there frame that frame that yeah I'll get the last one big bunt this is it great spot