Opioid Board · Meeting · Sep 15, 2026 · 4:00 PM

Tue, Sep 15, 2026

Directs opioid settlement funds and local strategies for prevention, treatment, and recovery serving Hickman County residents.

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The board’s main substantive business was whether to move forward with a renewed opioid-fund application tied to the Hickman County prevention coalition and administered by **United Way** as fiscal agent. Members raised concerns about duplication with school-based efforts, the jump from an earlier **$30,000** request to **$55,000**, the lack of a hired prevention specialist, and the board’s past experience funding grants before enough oversight was in place. After a motion to proceed failed with two no votes, the board instead voted to table the application and request a more complete submission, including fuller background from the original application and examples of programs and outcomes from other counties’ prevention coalitions.

Other notable threads included the current opioid-fund balance, **Educare**’s outstanding repayment, questions about in-kind room-use reporting, the status of the still-unfinished **UT SMART** contract, one open board seat, possible future reopening of the grant process, and Judge William “Bill” Lane’s inquiry about opioid funding for a project involving the National Guard armory, underinsured care, and possible monthly dental/medical services.

## Approval of Agenda and Minutes

-   Agenda approved without noted changes.
-   Prior minutes approved without a reading after members indicated they had the opportunity to review them.

## Public Comments

-   A public-comment period was opened, but no substantive outside comment was given.
-   A written or emailed concern was discussed indirectly during later grant deliberations, particularly regarding duplication of services, the size of the request, and releasing funds before a staff person is in place.

## Department / Official Reports

### Financial report

-   Financial report presented showing approximately **$419,089.45** on hand in opioid-board funds.
-   The packet included an update from **Educare**, which still owes **$94,017**; the board was told **Educare** is working on its tax return and expects to give a better repayment timeline once that is complete.
-   Members tried to clarify the truly available balance and discussed that, after accounting for outstanding amounts, roughly **$119,089.45** was considered available for new commitments.
-   The board also received a report from the NAR on in-kind usage since contract signing.
-   A member questioned an in-kind entry showing a room booked for **4 hours** for what was understood to be a health council meeting that normally lasts about **1 hour**; no correction was made on the spot, but staff was asked to check how the **4-hour** figure was derived.
-   Motion made and seconded to accept the financial report as presented; approved by voice vote.

## Unfinished Business

### Outstanding reimbursements and contract status

-   The board reviewed unfinished contract matters and said the only contract still outstanding was the one involving **United Way** and the prevention coalition.
-   Members also discussed the separate **UT SMART** contract, which has been approved in concept but not finalized.
-   The delay was attributed to work on the contract language and coordination with outside parties to clarify what needs to be included.
-   It was reported that **UT SMART** had sent an email the day before and that work was ongoing, with hope it would be ready soon because school had already started and the program could not begin until the contract is complete.

### Open board position

-   The board confirmed there is **1** open board position.
-   The county mayor said the vacancy had only just come to his attention and that the county was in the process of addressing it.
-   No appointment was made at this meeting.

## New Business / Agenda Items

### United Way prevention coalition application

-   The board returned to the application from **United Way** for opioid funding connected to the county prevention coalition.
-   Initial concerns summarized from prior communications included:
    -   possible duplication of services already being provided through school-related or county prevention work,
    -   the increase from an earlier **$30,000** request to **$55,000**,
    -   whether it is appropriate to fund the full amount before a prevention employee is actually hired,
    -   and whether the board should release all funds at once given prior problems with grant oversight.
-   One option discussed was partial funding, such as releasing only **$20,000** initially and holding the rest until a person is hired or milestones are met.
-   Another oversight option discussed was allocating the full **$55,000** but having Finance hold the money and pay it out monthly, bimonthly, or quarterly rather than transferring it all up front; this was presented as a way to improve control and avoid repeating earlier grant-management issues.

### Clarification of United Way’s role as fiscal agent

-   A lengthy discussion clarified that the board would not be “giving money to **United Way**” as a program operator.
-   **United Way** representatives said their role is as fiscal agent: holding the funds, processing payments, and helping stand up the coalition infrastructure, but not using the money for unrelated **United Way** purposes.
-   Members said that distinction had not been well understood and that the application should explain more plainly that this is a county prevention effort administered through a nonprofit fiscal agent rather than a **United Way** program in the ordinary sense.
-   Board members also emphasized that the opioid board itself only recommends funding and that final approval still lies with the County Commission.

### Prevention coalition structure and staffing questions

-   The board was told the prevention coalition previously had a director, Katie, who had to leave for health reasons.
-   Unspent money was returned from **United Way** to the opioid program after her departure.
-   It was explained that once a prevention specialist is in place, that person helps form or activate a coalition board, and that coalition board then becomes the body the employee reports to.
-   Members asked whether there is currently a coalition board in place; they were told there is not one at present.
-   Discussion indicated a prospective replacement had already expressed interest and already has some existing county relationships, including current work with EMA, but no formal hire was before the board.
-   Members questioned the lack of regular updates from the previous prevention specialist and said future funding should likely include more frequent reporting, potentially monthly or every two months, and possibly in-person updates at opioid board meetings.

### What the prior prevention work accomplished

-   Supporters of the application argued that the prior prevention specialist spent significant time building relationships, especially with schools and community partners, obtaining prevention certification, creating a website, working with the NAR, and developing the groundwork needed for future programming.
-   Several members argued that those relationship-building activities are normal early-stage coalition work and that a new rural prevention effort should not be judged as if it were already a mature program.
-   It was also noted that the interruption caused by the prior employee’s illness likely slowed grant-seeking and coalition development that had been expected to continue beyond the first year.

### Requests for clearer outcomes and measurable expectations

-   Members asked for a more explicit framework showing:
    -   what the coalition plans to do,
    -   what outcomes it expects,
    -   and how success will be measured.
-   In response, discussion pointed to Tennessee prevention-coalition models that track fatal and non-fatal overdoses by county over time, while acknowledging those indicators are typically delayed and influenced by many systems besides the coalition alone.
-   Members also discussed more immediate school-based measurements such as pre- and post-surveys on student knowledge about vaping, marijuana, and other drugs, if schools permit those surveys.
-   A survey tool referred to as STAR surveys was mentioned as one way some coalitions measure changes in student knowledge or perception.
-   Even supporters of the application agreed the board needed the submission to better describe the mechanics of what would be done, not just the broad goal of reducing overdoses.

### Examples from other counties

-   To address questions about what a prevention coalition can actually do, representatives cited coalitions in **Williamson County**, **Dickson County**, **Cheatham County**, **Stewart County**, **Houston County**, and **Franklin County / Winchester**.
-   **Williamson County** was described as having received **$100,000** in opioid funding at startup and now operating a large, mature coalition.
-   Members heard that **Williamson County** and **Cheatham County** have had coalitions in place roughly **12–13 years** or longer, and that **Dickson County** also has an established coalition with broad programming.
-   A member read examples from **Franklin County Prevention Coalition** programming, including after-school youth work, MRT therapy, drug-endangered-children programming, youth leadership training, Hidden in Plain Sight demonstrations, retailer tobacco education, TIPS responsible beverage training, nicotine prevention and cessation classes, fentanyl and stimulant training, **Narcan** training, medication disposal boxes, and a community events calendar.
-   The board generally agreed that examples and website links from comparable counties would help members understand the range of possible future programming, while also acknowledging Hickman County should not be expected to immediately match long-established coalitions elsewhere.

### Motion to proceed with the application

-   A motion was made and seconded to proceed with the **United Way** application in its current form.
-   Before the vote, members briefly discussed whether anyone had a conflict of interest because of a relationship with **United Way**; no financial conflict requiring a member to step down was identified in the discussion.
-   The vote failed after **2** members voted no. The exact affirmative tally was not clearly stated, but the chair announced that the motion did not pass.

### Motion to table and request more information

-   After the failed motion, a member moved to table the application rather than deny it.
-   The stated reasons were to obtain:
    -   the complete application, including material from the earlier submission,
    -   clearer detail on the proposed work,
    -   and examples of services or models from other coalitions for reference.
-   Discussion clarified that the board was not trying to dictate future coalition policy or require specific programs, only to get enough information to evaluate the request responsibly.
-   Representatives agreed they could provide examples and links showing what other coalitions have done, while noting they could not pre-commit a future Hickman coalition board to specific services.
-   Motion to table was seconded and approved by voice vote.

### Possible future applications and reopening the grant process

-   A member reported being contacted by a constituent or outside party asking about whether an application could be submitted and whether the board might reopen applications.
-   The response was that the board could not open the process for only one applicant; if reopened, it would need to be publicly advertised and open generally.
-   A minimum public notice period was mentioned, though the exact required length was unclear in the transcript.
-   No motion was made to reopen applications at this meeting.

### Judge Lane inquiry about healthcare project and National Guard armory

-   Judge William “Bill” Lane has asked about possible opioid-board funding tied to a project involving rental of the National Guard armory building.
-   The concept discussed was monthly dental and medical services, especially for underinsured or uninsured people, with Hickman County possibly serving as a pilot location.
-   Members said they needed a category or funding framework for that request and that related discussions were already occurring following a hospital meeting the prior week.
-   It was also said that the state apparently has had no interested buyer for the armory and that a rental figure of **$100 per month** had been mentioned.
-   No formal application or vote on this idea occurred at this meeting.

## Adjournment

-   No substantive adjournment discussion was captured in the transcript excerpt.

## Key figures and statistics

| Figure | Type | Context / topic |
| --- | --- | --- |
| **$30,000** | Prior request | Earlier prevention-coalition application amount discussed as a baseline for comparison |
| **$55,000** | Funding request | Current prevention-coalition / fiscal-agent request through **United Way** |
| **$20,000** | Proposed partial funding | Example discussed for releasing only part of the prevention-coalition funding initially |
| **$419,089.45** | Fund balance | Opioid-board funds reported on hand |
| **$94,017** | Receivable / repayment owed | Amount **Educare** still owes back to the opioid program |
| **$119,089.45** | Available balance | Member’s simplified calculation of funds available for new commitments |
| **4 hours** | In-kind usage entry | Questioned room-reservation duration shown on NAR / packet materials |
| **1 hour** | Meeting length | Estimated actual health council meeting duration used to question the 4-hour reservation entry |
| **1** | Vacancy count | Open opioid-board position still needing to be filled |
| **$100,000** | Grant amount | Reported startup opioid funding received by **Williamson County** prevention coalition |
| **12–13 years** | Time period | Approximate time **Williamson County** prevention coalition has been operating |
| **$100 per month** | Rent amount | Reported possible rental amount for use of the National Guard armory in Judge Lane’s project |

## External vendors, brands, and software

| Name | Type | Context / topic |
| --- | --- | --- |
| **United Way** | Company | Fiscal agent for the Hickman County prevention coalition application; discussed extensively to clarify it would administer, not own, the opioid-funded program |
| **Educare** | Company | Owes repayment to the opioid board; working on tax return before giving a clearer timeline |
| **UT SMART** | Company | Separate contract still being finalized so school-related work can begin |
| **NAR** | Company | Submitted an in-kind usage report included in the packet |
| **Narcan** | Brand | Cited as part of prevention-coalition training offered in other counties |
| **TIPS** | Software | Responsible beverage service training named in example programming from another county coalition |

## Laws and policies

| Citation / name | Level | Type | Context / topic |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| **Fiscal agent arrangement** | County | Policy | Repeatedly described operating structure under which **United Way** would hold and disburse opioid-board funds for the prevention coalition rather than receive them as unrestricted program money |

This outline was generated by an LLM from a transcript and may contain errors or inaccuracies. Prefer the original recording when available.

The board’s main substantive business was whether to move forward with a renewed opioid-fund application tied to the Hickman County prevention coalition and administered by United Way as fiscal agent. Members raised concerns about duplication with school-based efforts, the jump from an earlier $30,000 request to $55,000, the lack of a hired prevention specialist, and the board’s past experience funding grants before enough oversight was in place. After a motion to proceed failed with two no votes, the board instead voted to table the application and request a more complete submission, including fuller background from the original application and examples of programs and outcomes from other counties’ prevention coalitions.

Other notable threads included the current opioid-fund balance, Educare’s outstanding repayment, questions about in-kind room-use reporting, the status of the still-unfinished UT SMART contract, one open board seat, possible future reopening of the grant process, and Judge William “Bill” Lane’s inquiry about opioid funding for a project involving the National Guard armory, underinsured care, and possible monthly dental/medical services.

Approval of Agenda and Minutes

Agenda approved without noted changes.
Prior minutes approved without a reading after members indicated they had the opportunity to review them.

Public Comments

A public-comment period was opened, but no substantive outside comment was given.
A written or emailed concern was discussed indirectly during later grant deliberations, particularly regarding duplication of services, the size of the request, and releasing funds before a staff person is in place.

Department / Official Reports

Financial report

Financial report presented showing approximately $419,089.45 on hand in opioid-board funds.
The packet included an update from Educare, which still owes $94,017; the board was told Educare is working on its tax return and expects to give a better repayment timeline once that is complete.
Members tried to clarify the truly available balance and discussed that, after accounting for outstanding amounts, roughly $119,089.45 was considered available for new commitments.
The board also received a report from the NAR on in-kind usage since contract signing.
A member questioned an in-kind entry showing a room booked for 4 hours for what was understood to be a health council meeting that normally lasts about 1 hour; no correction was made on the spot, but staff was asked to check how the 4-hour figure was derived.
Motion made and seconded to accept the financial report as presented; approved by voice vote.

Unfinished Business

Outstanding reimbursements and contract status

The board reviewed unfinished contract matters and said the only contract still outstanding was the one involving United Way and the prevention coalition.
Members also discussed the separate UT SMART contract, which has been approved in concept but not finalized.
The delay was attributed to work on the contract language and coordination with outside parties to clarify what needs to be included.
It was reported that UT SMART had sent an email the day before and that work was ongoing, with hope it would be ready soon because school had already started and the program could not begin until the contract is complete.

Open board position

The board confirmed there is 1 open board position.
The county mayor said the vacancy had only just come to his attention and that the county was in the process of addressing it.
No appointment was made at this meeting.

New Business / Agenda Items

United Way prevention coalition application

The board returned to the application from United Way for opioid funding connected to the county prevention coalition.
Initial concerns summarized from prior communications included:
- possible duplication of services already being provided through school-related or county prevention work,
- the increase from an earlier $30,000 request to $55,000,
- whether it is appropriate to fund the full amount before a prevention employee is actually hired,
- and whether the board should release all funds at once given prior problems with grant oversight.
One option discussed was partial funding, such as releasing only $20,000 initially and holding the rest until a person is hired or milestones are met.
Another oversight option discussed was allocating the full $55,000 but having Finance hold the money and pay it out monthly, bimonthly, or quarterly rather than transferring it all up front; this was presented as a way to improve control and avoid repeating earlier grant-management issues.

Clarification of United Way’s role as fiscal agent

A lengthy discussion clarified that the board would not be “giving money to United Way” as a program operator.
United Way representatives said their role is as fiscal agent: holding the funds, processing payments, and helping stand up the coalition infrastructure, but not using the money for unrelated United Way purposes.
Members said that distinction had not been well understood and that the application should explain more plainly that this is a county prevention effort administered through a nonprofit fiscal agent rather than a United Way program in the ordinary sense.
Board members also emphasized that the opioid board itself only recommends funding and that final approval still lies with the County Commission.

Prevention coalition structure and staffing questions

The board was told the prevention coalition previously had a director, Katie, who had to leave for health reasons.
Unspent money was returned from United Way to the opioid program after her departure.
It was explained that once a prevention specialist is in place, that person helps form or activate a coalition board, and that coalition board then becomes the body the employee reports to.
Members asked whether there is currently a coalition board in place; they were told there is not one at present.
Discussion indicated a prospective replacement had already expressed interest and already has some existing county relationships, including current work with EMA, but no formal hire was before the board.
Members questioned the lack of regular updates from the previous prevention specialist and said future funding should likely include more frequent reporting, potentially monthly or every two months, and possibly in-person updates at opioid board meetings.

What the prior prevention work accomplished

Supporters of the application argued that the prior prevention specialist spent significant time building relationships, especially with schools and community partners, obtaining prevention certification, creating a website, working with the NAR, and developing the groundwork needed for future programming.
Several members argued that those relationship-building activities are normal early-stage coalition work and that a new rural prevention effort should not be judged as if it were already a mature program.
It was also noted that the interruption caused by the prior employee’s illness likely slowed grant-seeking and coalition development that had been expected to continue beyond the first year.

Requests for clearer outcomes and measurable expectations

Members asked for a more explicit framework showing:
- what the coalition plans to do,
- what outcomes it expects,
- and how success will be measured.
In response, discussion pointed to Tennessee prevention-coalition models that track fatal and non-fatal overdoses by county over time, while acknowledging those indicators are typically delayed and influenced by many systems besides the coalition alone.
Members also discussed more immediate school-based measurements such as pre- and post-surveys on student knowledge about vaping, marijuana, and other drugs, if schools permit those surveys.
A survey tool referred to as STAR surveys was mentioned as one way some coalitions measure changes in student knowledge or perception.
Even supporters of the application agreed the board needed the submission to better describe the mechanics of what would be done, not just the broad goal of reducing overdoses.

Examples from other counties

To address questions about what a prevention coalition can actually do, representatives cited coalitions in Williamson County, Dickson County, Cheatham County, Stewart County, Houston County, and Franklin County / Winchester.
Williamson County was described as having received $100,000 in opioid funding at startup and now operating a large, mature coalition.
Members heard that Williamson County and Cheatham County have had coalitions in place roughly 12–13 years or longer, and that Dickson County also has an established coalition with broad programming.
A member read examples from Franklin County Prevention Coalition programming, including after-school youth work, MRT therapy, drug-endangered-children programming, youth leadership training, Hidden in Plain Sight demonstrations, retailer tobacco education, TIPS responsible beverage training, nicotine prevention and cessation classes, fentanyl and stimulant training, Narcan training, medication disposal boxes, and a community events calendar.
The board generally agreed that examples and website links from comparable counties would help members understand the range of possible future programming, while also acknowledging Hickman County should not be expected to immediately match long-established coalitions elsewhere.

Motion to proceed with the application

A motion was made and seconded to proceed with the United Way application in its current form.
Before the vote, members briefly discussed whether anyone had a conflict of interest because of a relationship with United Way; no financial conflict requiring a member to step down was identified in the discussion.
The vote failed after 2 members voted no. The exact affirmative tally was not clearly stated, but the chair announced that the motion did not pass.

Motion to table and request more information

After the failed motion, a member moved to table the application rather than deny it.
The stated reasons were to obtain:
- the complete application, including material from the earlier submission,
- clearer detail on the proposed work,
- and examples of services or models from other coalitions for reference.
Discussion clarified that the board was not trying to dictate future coalition policy or require specific programs, only to get enough information to evaluate the request responsibly.
Representatives agreed they could provide examples and links showing what other coalitions have done, while noting they could not pre-commit a future Hickman coalition board to specific services.
Motion to table was seconded and approved by voice vote.

Possible future applications and reopening the grant process

A member reported being contacted by a constituent or outside party asking about whether an application could be submitted and whether the board might reopen applications.
The response was that the board could not open the process for only one applicant; if reopened, it would need to be publicly advertised and open generally.
A minimum public notice period was mentioned, though the exact required length was unclear in the transcript.
No motion was made to reopen applications at this meeting.

Judge Lane inquiry about healthcare project and National Guard armory

Judge William “Bill” Lane has asked about possible opioid-board funding tied to a project involving rental of the National Guard armory building.
The concept discussed was monthly dental and medical services, especially for underinsured or uninsured people, with Hickman County possibly serving as a pilot location.
Members said they needed a category or funding framework for that request and that related discussions were already occurring following a hospital meeting the prior week.
It was also said that the state apparently has had no interested buyer for the armory and that a rental figure of $100 per month had been mentioned.
No formal application or vote on this idea occurred at this meeting.

Adjournment

No substantive adjournment discussion was captured in the transcript excerpt.

Key figures and statistics

Figure	Type	Context / topic
$30,000	Prior request	Earlier prevention-coalition application amount discussed as a baseline for comparison
$55,000	Funding request	Current prevention-coalition / fiscal-agent request through United Way
$20,000	Proposed partial funding	Example discussed for releasing only part of the prevention-coalition funding initially
$419,089.45	Fund balance	Opioid-board funds reported on hand
$94,017	Receivable / repayment owed	Amount Educare still owes back to the opioid program
$119,089.45	Available balance	Member’s simplified calculation of funds available for new commitments
4 hours	In-kind usage entry	Questioned room-reservation duration shown on NAR / packet materials
1 hour	Meeting length	Estimated actual health council meeting duration used to question the 4-hour reservation entry
1	Vacancy count	Open opioid-board position still needing to be filled
$100,000	Grant amount	Reported startup opioid funding received by Williamson County prevention coalition
12–13 years	Time period	Approximate time Williamson County prevention coalition has been operating
$100 per month	Rent amount	Reported possible rental amount for use of the National Guard armory in Judge Lane’s project

External vendors, brands, and software

Name	Type	Context / topic
United Way	Company	Fiscal agent for the Hickman County prevention coalition application; discussed extensively to clarify it would administer, not own, the opioid-funded program
Educare	Company	Owes repayment to the opioid board; working on tax return before giving a clearer timeline
UT SMART	Company	Separate contract still being finalized so school-related work can begin
NAR	Company	Submitted an in-kind usage report included in the packet
Narcan	Brand	Cited as part of prevention-coalition training offered in other counties
TIPS	Software	Responsible beverage service training named in example programming from another county coalition

Laws and policies

Citation / name	Level	Type	Context / topic
Fiscal agent arrangement	County	Policy	Repeatedly described operating structure under which United Way would hold and disburse opioid-board funds for the prevention coalition rather than receive them as unrestricted program money

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Over how the money was being spent. As opposed to. Sort of giving all the money. And then. Waiting until the quarterlies. Come in. And then having to. Dissect it. And then he said. He said. Monthly. But it could be every two months. It could be every three months. He said. It was really a decision. That the board could make. As far as that's concerned. You could allocate. Fifty five thousand. That crystal would hold. And then every. On a monthly basis. Pay out or lunch. Yeah. For us. Well. If you. Didn't ask. If we did not even. Need to apply. The grant. Because you would be. Your own physical agent. And then. You still have to. Populate. But if. I would. So we can. You. So. The. Employee. Of the coalition. Would need to report. Forward. No. It would still report. To you. Like. If you knew. How much. The salary would be. I guess. Well. Technical. To add more. Rob's. In the. Job. Technical. To add more. Rob's. In the. Job. Technical. To add more. Rob's. Technical. The prevention. Coalition. Employee. Of the. Prevention. So once you. Get some. More. The only. Thing. Is. Hi. The salary. It would just. Pay. Out of the mail. We don't. She. Doesn't report to us. Once we. Get someone. In place. And she gets. Her. Convention. Coalition. The. Coalition. Board. Triggered. At. Fort. Then. Hires. Officially. Hires. Her. And becomes. Her employee. So she has to. Appoint. A board so she could. Get hired. Technically. Yes. Which I realized. That's not like. When you're starting. A coalition. Like this. That's. Tickling. The process. Because we. Can't hire someone. So. The. Coalition. Board. Became. Who she actually. Reported to. So is there a board. In place. At this point. Not at this point. Because. Katie. Had to quit. Because of health reasons. And then the United Way. Returned money. To the. Opioid program. That had not been spent. So it's not our money. It's y'all's money. We're just using it. To play the. Prevention. Director. Okay. Now. Let's. Do this. If you don't mind. I would like for us. To hold. Any more discussion. Until after we go through. And put it right. In the right place. On the agenda. So I'm going to ask. If we can hold. Any more discussion. About United Way. About. This. Information. And. Go to our. Financial aid. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Currently, we have about $419,089.45 stands. Attached to your packet was an update from Educare on the rating funds that they owe us at $94,017. They said they're currently working on their tax return. Once they complete that, I thought that's not much money they have remaining, so that they can give us a better timeline on repayment. I also asked the NAR to submit a report showing the in-kind usage since they signed the contract and it's also in your packet, and that's all I had. So, did we have any discussion on the financial report? So, at this point, just so I can dumb it down for a minute, we have $119,089.45 available. We have how much outstanding that we anticipate being returned? Everything that's been returned is up to the $2,000 from Educare. Can I ask a little bit more? Are anybody using these lots of time? Like, she's got four, one, 26. Lori, for each education? I took it that they were. Those are the health council meetings that are open. Okay, health council. Yeah, because they just put them on there if they use it, or if they book it, and then come back, they don't show up. But that was my understanding, is the health council meeting. Luckily, it is. Did the health council meet for four hours? I don't know if they meet for four hours, but they probably have it reserved for that. I guess the plan for it, I'm not sure. I can question that, too. The actual health council meets for an hour. Okay, maybe an hour. Yeah. I don't know if they have it. In here, the crowd is on the window. I don't know. I'm surely well enough to admit it. I have not. I have appointed somebody to that. You don't want me to question that? I would just like to know where they came up with four hours, or if there is something else that we're missing out on. I think they're sharing what we have. Thank you. Any other questions, comments, or additions to the finance report? We have a motion to accept the finance report as presented. Motion to accept. Second. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Any nays? Oh, business. We still have to address the outstanding reimbursements. Status of contracts. Right now, the only one that is outstanding is the United Way, correct? Okay, so we still have an outstanding contract that has been approved for the convention now. UT Smart has been working on a dividend. I think they've had to work with OAS Bells to get a better idea of what needs to be in that, and I would like for that to come back to the rest of the contract. Okay, so we still have that. It should be solid, it's in process of that. Do you have any gut feelings that one of that might come back? I got an email yesterday on theirs. I know he's working on it, but I'm hoping this week, because with school starting, I need it, so they won't get it started, so. Absolutely. We still have two open board positions. And one. One open board position. Right. Oh, yeah. We'll start one, yes. Yeah. So, Mr. Mayor, do you have any idea that you have to assume right now? No, I just realized that this is a problem. I don't know how they suggest this, but we are in the process of that. One position. Any other old business that you might have on that? If not now, we can get to where we are. Where we were. We can go back to the discussion on. You're not a nurse, are you? Do you want to come up and sit with us? I can. Oh. I've got these ladies as well. Because I'm the only one that can sit with you. I don't want to be in trouble. I want to see how many of you are in trouble. So, we have an application from United Way to look at, discuss, see what position we're in right now. So, with that. There were some questions, I think, that Sarah brought up. Very valid questions. So, can you talk about the semantics of maybe not following the meaning of what exactly you're doing? If you point out very basic things. And the application is very similar. It's comparing and comparing, but do you have any, any numbers or numbers that show that you're working on a program that you've never been part of? You've never been part of a program? Who do you think that is? Okay. I'm talking about the workers from last year, yeah. I do think that she's had a relationship with the school system. Sometimes it's very hard to build that relationship with those that she's been with since she came to school. So, she did develop that relationship. I know that she also got her certification so that she was an absolutely certified prevention specialist so that took her some time to do it. She created a website. She got that up and running. She's worked with the NRA. So, she has spent most of that time developing relationships and partnerships across different jobs and getting training. I'm gonna add to that. I used to, because going to several of the coalition events, like anything, you can do like EMA or touch truck or anything like that, I saw anything. Because I go through a lot of the events through recovery housing and see a lot of it. And it's relatively new program for it. So, I mean, she's just trying to get her feet wet and trying to figure out what she can't do. And me talking to her several times, she asked her what her job entailed. And she said developing relationships, trying to get in the doorways of schools and places like that so she couldn't handle her job. And so, I mean, it wasn't, it's made. It really is what she does, but it is developing rapport relationships so she can figure out what she does need to do to help in the communities and it's all good. And we're moving like that, that's very helpful. Okay, well, I mean, that's just, and for coming from this side of me, what I think I know Katie personally, she's a great person. I know she's had to step out and help so much. She did a great job trying to build a forward-looking community and I noticed her out there. And she was always really positive. She was really engaging. She really enjoyed what she did. And I feel bad that she has to step out. But this is, from what I see, what United Way's doing, trying to step in to the United States, in Hickman County, trying to help, they're doing a great job. I'm really pleased to see that. So, with this new person, basically, they have to start from the ground zero again? No, because I think since Katie has already developed some of those relationships with the person that we have that has stepped up and said that she would love to do it, already had those relationships. She works now for EMI. So, she already has. Yes. Well, no. Well, let's see. One of the questions that I had is, based on what had happened and going forward with the application, is there any kind of a matrix that we can say, okay, here's what we are doing, here's what we expect in the outcome, and here's how we're going to measure it, specifically? So, we started Tennessee. They used the final and non-final overdoses per county. So, the goal of the intervention coalition is to make that number decrease. Tennessee publishes those, I believe, every year and a half, and then usually a year and a half. So, you know, those stats come out. The health department also tracks a lot of that. So, prevention specialists will use that data point to start showing that progress has been made. How, how can we put that in the application? Well, I think, we don't know the exact words, but it's in the application that they hope to decrease the final and non-final overdose rates. Okay, that was where I was trying to get back to is, specifically how are they hoping to decrease those? By educating, by starting the school children to educate them of the dangers and the harms of any kind of drug use. Okay, is there a program that can be named, that can be used to do the education? I think this goes back to what you were saying, it needs to be something specific. Yes, in the original application, it's the Tennessee, Tennessee has a program that all the prevention coalitions use. So, it's the program set up in the state of Tennessee, but we can get that actual name. Yeah, I think we could use that and say, this is the way that it is managed, this is the way it's recorded. We know we're gonna be 18 months behind, but I think that, especially with the issues that we had with some of the grants last year, that we wanna make sure that we have everything that the state is gonna ask questions about, so that we can be able to stop them. And the one thing we do know also is, the state helps them, prevention coalitions, that could go up and off the ground and help them to show more. That's important, sorry to interrupt. So, is there any other, like the coalitions that you could pull stats from other counties and show what it can do? Williamson County, when the prevention coalition started, one of the things that they needed to help assess was that Williamson County probably top their list was overdose, right? And the prevention coalition in Williamson County has worked so hard that now that's not the only thing they have to worry about. And because of, we're also with this coalition for the Williamson County prevention coalition, and because of that, they very willingly worked with Katie to get her started, show her the votes, helped her make connections in the state and across the area, so that has really helped there, and they're willing to do that all the time. Okay, I think that kind of information would really help us be able to say, okay, here's what has happened, here's the plan here, we're gonna model it this way, here's the matrix that we've used to judge today's success or not success. I think that's kind of where we need to be with information. So I think that we originally thought, or I understood that this was a continuation of our other grant, so I guess this application did not have all that original information in it that was in the original grant, because it was just a continuation of it. Or more, at least. You still have the original file. Can't it be a continuation, because it had to be a new message. It needs to be a new module, so we need to have that in front of it. So, no, today. I think all the old ones have been replaced. Okay. So should we replace the copy and paste from the old application to the new application? You know, that is, I think. Because it's a PDF, I want the old copy and paste, so we will have that information. Can't you just attach the original and save the pieces? I think they can actually probably come over to it. To be a valid document. I think it would be useful to start in the process. And I hate to ask for the extra work, but we need to make sure we've got everything in line as we go forward. I would also like to say, again, this board is not giving money to the right way. You know what it's basically, like I said, we're acting for fiscal action. So this is not our money. If we don't use money, we say we're bad, because it's not our money. We're merely acting for fiscal action. Now, Debbie, I think that you all and us are kind of in the same position. Because it's not our money to do it, it has to go to the planning commission. We just do a recommendation or say, you know, we'll do this, this is what we think. And then they go with it, is that correct? Yeah, they have to agree to anything that we do. So we are at their mercy. Well, I guess because the gentleman was concerned about giving the United Way some money, and we already have so much money, but this is not money going to the United Way. We're not checking accounts with the commission for this. If we want to get more dollars, then we have to fund it. You have to fund it. You have to fund it, and then your director will then start looking for other funding. I know that Williamson County gets lots of funding from lots of grants, and they have gotten so much funding, they're able to provide lots more services than they did when they started. I think they're doing lots of work now across different overuse problems. And I think maybe one of the reasons that Mr. Post and I haven't spoken to him about this, but Crystal, I know, remembers is that when we started this, what's his name? Hobbs. Oh, Joey. Joey. When Joey was presenting the United Way, and if I'm wrong, please correct me, because you and I are the only ones that were there, was that all we had to do was just fund it the first year, and then boom, it was gonna be off and running that way. And I mean, he said that five or six times, and because he said that if we funded it for the first year, that seemed like I remember him saying that the football team, the Titans would be, and all these grants would be coming in, and then what he talked about in the beginning, a storefront for United Way and a daycare center. Maybe he oversold, and he shouldn't have, but maybe that's part of it, too. Well, I don't know. Maybe Crystal can elaborate if I'm wrong, but that's kind of what we were told. I think the problem was that because of Katie's health, she would have been not working a whole year. So I think that she was in the process of applying for grants, but as you know, that's one of those things you have to stay on top of and continue to do, and because Katie did not work a whole year, there was a stumbling block there. And as I explained before, if I was nobody that could, you know, so she's sick, but there was nobody like to just, hey, we're in Williamson County, but we know you're sick, so we're gonna kind of stay and help you, to reach out and help. Technically, they would have had to pay the people from Williamson, because Williamson County is, as you say, also on work part-time, so their hours are pretty much full. So for someone else coming in to take over her job would have been a whole different kind of process. And when you talk about the daycare, as I explained before, United Way was never going to put in the daycare. We're bringing support for someone to create a non-profit daycare. So I believe Debbie, I think, so Debbie acts, no matter what, acts as like a title company for a silver home. A conveyor. A conveyor, so she holds the money, and so they help, like she's helping with us with the daycares, and that's a pretty good daycare. So we have the L. Scanlon, we're actually have our non-profit status, that United Way has got this guy, Stuart, is a guy that gets through, gets to the daycare center. They have provided, they're not providing, they're just helping us with certain aspects that we don't understand. The same way with Katie, with the Prevention Coalition, I believe, so that's a separate deal. United Way is just like, guys, and they just help us get through, so they don't provide the money or anything like that, they're just like the middle man, usually, so. And I think one of the things that, I'm really glad that he consented and questioned it, because it's helped me understand that this isn't a United Way program. No. This is a county program. Correct. That United Way is administering. The administration. So we're just doing background services, so we're just pretty much paying after, but it also. That's a whole different perspective on it, but I think that needs to be maybe a little more clearly defined in the grant application. Well, I think we said it was a fiscal agent, so... Yeah. What does that mean? That means we paid the bills. Right. And that's... It's not... This is not... I wish there was a way not to say that this was a United Way application. I agree. But because we're the non-profit, you know, we have to be the one applying. I understand that. I mean... We would love for Hickman County to have a prevention coalition because we know it works. We've seen it work in other counties, and we know it works. And the reason we know it works is because we are the fiscal agent for those, and because of that, we see the data. But United Way does not require or suggest or anything that Hickman County has a prevention coalition. We're just trying to make it easier. If you want one, then it's easier to start with. Let me ask this. Are there any of the counties... You said there's 10 counties. I'm wrong. There are similar in demographic and size to Hickman that you have this up and running that we can pull and say, okay, this is Amir. This is what you're dealing with. The three counties I work with are the ones I'm most familiar with, which is Williamson, Dixon, and Hickman. Stewart and Houston are small counties that we also cover. So is Cheatham. Cheatham has a huge prevention coalition that does huge work. It's not one of the counties I cover, but I know... How do I pull that information to include in the application as far as documenting their success rate, their successes? Well, I can do that. What do you all think? Take information from another county and put it in the application for this county. So as a reference. As a reference. As a reference. A county that is a similar demographic to Hickman and say, this has been established and has been in place here. Here are the results for Stewart County. That's what we could look at as an example of what we could potentially expect. Something that we could... An example we could follow. Right. Okay. Well, the example you're following is the Tennessee plan for prevention coalitions. Like a website or anything? Oh, yeah. Stewart County would probably have a website with their stats on it. I know that Williamson County... Like I said, I know that Williamson County does. I know that Dixon County does. Dixon County also has a huge prevention coalition. So would that help if we had, like, Williamson, Chino, Dixon, all the other police counties that use this coalition to see their stats? What do you all think? And how long they've been in operation. Sir? And how long they've actually been functioning. It makes sense to use an example from other counties. And I think that is information that you all can pull yourselves to look at as an example of prevention coalitions. And to look at their success rates. I mean, I guess the reason I hesitate is because, you know, we never know. And I hate to say this, but other counties have done. And then because, you know, then we have paperwork showing other counties have done this great, wonderful thing. And Hickman County Prevention Coalition is not to that level yet. I mean, I can do whatever you all think to do. I mean, those websites are free for anyone to go to and look at. I mean, you can see what they've done. So, you know, whatever you want me to do. Are we expecting the same results as other counties or something to work towards? Because you can't. There's accountability, but there's also growth. And growth starts at the bottom. And if we're going to follow something, we have to expect the length of time for growth. And not come down on people because they're not meeting other people's expectations. The Wayne County Prevention Coalition has probably been in place 12 or 13 years. Yeah. The Cheatham County Coalition, I think, has probably been in place longer than that. Because I remember Williamson County working a lot with Cheatham County when they first started. So, these coalitions have been in place. And I think that Dixon County, I don't know how long Director Fred Dixon has been in place, but it's been a long time. As you said, we could go to them. Yes, you can go to their websites and look at what they've done. Well, I mean, actually go up to them physically. Yes. And say, have Wallace do this. Well, Williamson County does not have an office as such. It might work from home. Director Fred Dixon does have an office. It's behind Bank Alley Barbecue or kind of across the street from Bank Alley Barbecue. I don't know about Cheatham County. But, yes. Yeah. So, briefly, you asked about metrics. And what all those conversations were. And I think what we're talking about here is something. If you want metrics, it's not just metrics from this prevention coalition. We're talking education, schools, children. I mean, we haven't talked about where one age to the other. Those are sort of current data. Which I would say is probably a little over the school age somewhat, or the majority of them. So, those are metrics. You educate them now. You hope that education follows them for their lifetime. It's not something you're going to see next year or even the year after. Because the kids that are beyond the educational part, you know, might not go to school. They're not going to have this education. So, it's going to be years. It's going to be years before we see this. And then, you have to also factor in. This is just a small portion of what actually goes into preventing drug use and overdoses. The sharing plays a huge role in this. The legal system plays a huge role in this. Mom and dad play the biggest part in this. But the education part is the part that is probably going to be one of the hardest to measure. We get these numbers, but it's a culmination of everybody working together. Not just this prevention coalition. When I was saying metrics, I'm basically asking, okay, here's the plan. Here's the step that is going to be implemented. We're going to do education. I think it's numbers. Measuring results. I'm thinking what you're talking about. I see it's the mechanics. Yeah, okay. So, some schools will allow the prevention coalitions to come in and do a pre-survey and a post-survey. All schools do not allow that. The schools that do allow that, they talk to the kids in fourth grade and say, what do you know about vaping? What do you know about marijuana usage? Then, in a year, they go back in and say, now what do you know? Do you think it's safe? So, they start gauging. So, they start gauging. But that's only if the schools will allow those surveys to be done. I think they were called STAR surveys. And you have the resources to do it. Correct. What about other counties that use the opioid grants for the coalitions that we're discussing? Yes. I know that Williamson had $100,000 the first time. So, there is a precedent. Oh, yes. Yes. So, we're not trying to do something that hasn't been... No. We're not going where nobody has gone before. No. And the reason I know that Williamson County got $100,000 was because one day I opened my mailbox in the office and there was a check for $100,000 from Williamson County. And I didn't know. No one told me it was coming. So, yes. Okay. I'm looking at the Franklin County, Winchester. Franklin County, Winchester Prevention Coalition. They've got a really good website. This is the program that they offer. They offer a bridge program, which is an after-school program designed for the youth of Franklin County, teaching life skills, providing team-building activities, art, physical activities, social skills, emotional management. Then they have an MRT therapy program, which is a behavioral treatment system that leads to enhanced moral reasoning and better decision-making. Then they have drug-endangered children. Then they have the Franklin County Youth Coalition. They have Project Lifeline. Tennessee Save a Life. Then they offer a seven-week life skill training course called Youth Leadership Training. Then they have a course called Hidden and Plain Sight Demonstration, which is an interactive exhibit resembling a teen's bedroom with 30 items that could indicate dangerous or risky behavior for drug and alcohol use. Top Shelf Off-Premises Training, where they train people to learn if a customer is intoxicated or under the age. Retailer Tobacco Education. Responsible Beverage Service Training called TIPS. Drug-Free Workplace Training. Aspired Nicotine Prevention Classes. In-depth Nicotine Education Classes. Boy, they do a lot on tobacco. Non-tobacco cessation. And fentanyl and stimulant training. And then they also do, I can never pronounce it, the training with the spray. Narcan. Narcan. And then they offer boxes for picking up drugs. And then they have a whole calendar of community events. They have a Lego Club. Celebrate Recovery. And does it say how many grants they're working under and how long they've been in existence? Because those are lots of different grants. They have a chess club. Fall Heritage. It's about a 10-page, but it's the Franklin County Prevention Coalition. I don't know what Winchester is. I assume Winchester is bigger. Winchester is bigger. But it's not as big as Franklin. No. We'll never be in the league of Franklin. $100,000 for Franklin is like a dollar. That shows what could be done. That could be, yes. It might not be in existence. I think that's kind of what we've been trying to ask. What are the plans? Well, that would be the opioid board. Here again, once she gets her prevention board in place, that board comes up with, this is what we want to do. United Way does not control. We're just the bank. We're not developing their procedures. Because we cannot come into Hickman County and tell y'all what y'all need to do. But what we can do is hire a prevention specialist. We can help her with the help of the National Guard Helps, create a board. That board then becomes the prevention board, and they develop their plan. This is what we want to do. We want to become the Franklin County Prevention Coalition. We want to do all the things they're doing. Then they have to decide how we're going to get there. What grants do we need to apply for? Most grants are specific with what drugs you're working with in the age group. So if you want to start working with different age groups, then you have to target different grants. And whatever prevention you're going after, you need to target that. So this grant merely opens that door to what we could do. Yes, if your prevention coalition works hard, and the board works hard behind your director, then yes, you can create all those programs. Drug-Free Dixon is one of the best, closest ones that is smaller than Williamson County. And I think the reason that Williamson County gets so much funding is because they've been in existence, and they've done a lot of hard work. But Dixon County also has lots of programming they can do too, but it's all from different grants. You know, when I talk about a pea-brained bill, what I see potential is getting this board set up to implement what he's saying we need to do. That would be the avenue to get this done. Yes, so when the prevention specialist gets in place, when that director gets in place, her job is then to surround herself by a board. It's kind of like the health council. This is why I preach constantly at the health council. Until we all start pushing in the same direction, the needle is not going to move. So if your director can create a board that's going to help move that needle, then it's going to work, and you can get more grants to provide all sorts of programming. And that board could hypothetically say, okay, we like this, we like these ideas, and this is how we are going to implement this. Correct. Right now we don't even have a method to implement this. Correct. Because United Way is not the one doing the work. The only thing we do is write the check with your money. I see some partnership potentials that we take care of on a lot of issues. Partnerships are desperately needed, yes. For the short time I've been on as a commissioner, I've been to a couple meetings with... Yes. It's been a long day. So it seems like everybody in the county, there's several different boards that want to be on the same page with what we're doing. It's like a big puzzle that we're all trying to get to the same location. Debbie's going to all these board meetings. I see her at all of them. She's yelling at me because I miss some of them sometimes. Where are you? You forgot to... Okay, I'm sorry. My bad. But she loves this county. I see the passion she has for it in the county, and she really wants to make this place better. I feel like there is not one human in this state. It's become a joke. If I go to any conference, if I go to any meeting, and people are talking about what they're doing in rural counties, I stand up and say, let me tell you about one. Three years ago, I was involved in a therapy because I had this huge, heavy comforter I had to wash, and there was a woman there with two children. When I was in infancy, he was two months old. His name was Jasper. When I got home, I was trying to describe this friend of mine that does family law and did lots of pro bono work in Edmonton County about Jasper. I said, Jasper, there was something different about Jasper. And he said, well, what was it? And I had asked if I could hold Jasper because he was taking his bottle and not burping, and I'm a grandmother, so that's just not good. So when I got Jasper, I was trying to burp him, and so I was trying to describe the back of Jasper's head. And the more I tried to describe it, I realized it was a big sore. It has bothered me ever since because I let Jasper sit through the cracks. Jasper lives in Edmonton County somewhere because she said that she lived in Lyles. That is what drives me to Edmonton County. How many more kids are born through the cracks because we're not seeing it? And I was so focused on burping this child that I did not see a big sore on his head. And I had an opportunity to talk to his mother, and I didn't do it. So yes, the kids in this county, the people in this county, and as I was saying before I came into this meeting, United Way is not pulling any money from Edmonton County. It's not like there's big corporations here doing payroll campaigns, but we're still providing services. And that money for those services are coming out of other people's campaigns, not Pickman County. So we're not trying to take money from Pickman County. This is not our money. We aren't taking it. this money and do another programming with it. This is your money to do the programming that you want to do. We're just willing to write the check for you. Any other questions for Debbie? So, Board, how do you want to move forward? Motion will be a further 20,000, so... Would that solve it? No? What would it take to... Yes. I know you said you'd hold it in... You guys said that you'd hold the money until... You said, first of all, you'd hold it until... How much did you announce or something like that? Is the application suitable to proceed with? Yes. And is there a motion that we proceed with the application? I second. Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Does anybody have a conflict? We have to declare we have a conflict with the application. So, does anybody know if they have a conflict with the application? Would they have a relationship with the United Way? Somebody has to step down now. You don't have to step down, I just... Oh, but may I have a second? You don't have a financial conflict. I don't? No. Okay, sorry, I'll move this. I see no other discussion. All for a vote. Those in favor of proceeding with the contract as it is now, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. Abstain. We have two opposed. The motion does not pass. So, how do you want to proceed? Can I make a motion to table this application? Can you say that for me so I can touch? I cannot. My ears are also stopped. I didn't hear you. Can I make a motion to table this application for now? Not to do what? Just to maybe add a little bit more information Can you please make the motion to table this application? I think we need to get the complete application and it sounds like Crystal can help us with that by pulling the first application and then I think the second component was that what you were speaking of was having some more in-depth what proposals can the prevention coalition do. Fair enough. So, I'll second Sarah's motion. Can I? We have a motion, we have a second. We can't discuss it. I'm not sure that we running the grant have the authority or the perceived idea of what the coalition board may want to see in the future for the prevention coalition to do for us to look at it. Because that would be us saying this is what we want you to do in the future. Because if we say in that grant we want you to put in place the after school program or we want you to put in place the I think that's kind of us dictating to the Hickman County Coalition both of what they need to do but I don't think Put it in phrase programs might Is that what you put in like here are some examples of what other things you told us? Yeah. Okay. And would they include those website links so that they can look at them? Yes. So, is it words only thing that you guys don't like in that petition? What was your question there? The way I understand and I don't even have a book so it doesn't matter. It's just time. The way I understand this all we're needing to know is more detail. Gotcha. And then some specifics about when will this person be hired? She needs to start tomorrow. Well, and who is the person? I think that's a long way to you may not be prepared to make that answer but I think that would help some of us who don't work in the medical field because I think I heard that she was with the EMA or EMS. EMA. Yeah. And there's only two people in the building and one of them is a patient so. That would be for your coalition that would come up with here again. But you're not so we would not set policy. We only apply to the grant. Even if this person is hired by the EMA. The coalition board would do that. I don't even know who was on the coalition board last year. I know that Jennifer Harris was. I think she next was serving on the coalition board and I'm not even sure that I know who else was on that coalition board because here again you only want to start to dictate. Okay. That's fair. I get that. I'm just the gatekeeper of funneling the money. But and I'm sorry the nice lady that was that was doing it last year that had to leave. Katie. Katie never came to any of our meetings to tell us whether it was the old board or this new board who was even on the board. She never reported to us this is what we're doing. This is an update. And it could have even been an email update. It could have been a just a letter or could just been just a phone call to so that time it was sorry to say you know could have been the mayor could have been our former chairman could have been crystal but we we just didn't know what was going on until we got to the well she had to leave your money back and we have a three page website that did anyone request that information from her did anybody on this board request that information from her the only thing that I requested was a quarterly report yeah I think that's where we have learned some things that we need and that's where the monthly or every two months we check in yeah I think it would be great for that person to come to the board meetings and be able to report the progress that's been made and I think if that was done I think Mr. Post might have better not that he's controlling anything but I think you know more information is always good yeah and I again I see where all of this can come together if we proceed and I think Sarah would be right I think that the motion could you read the motion again her motion was to table not to deny but just to table the application and to ask for additional information including the complete application to be submitted as well as a proposal of the list of services that could be implemented but of course would just be up to the board coalition to determine okay is tabling the right word sure okay we have a second we have a motion any more discussion we're we're we're not saying no we're saying to explore the importance of having more information so we can proceed responsibly correct and you will link to websites that give examples of what coalition have done not what you all could do right just examples of what coalition are doing yes yeah because the way I understand you're saying you can't really tell us what we could do but you can tell us what has been done correct yes any more discussion no more discussion I call for a vote all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye aye any opposed motion passes thank you oh you're welcome for giving us that information that helped tremendously on me yes is there any other yes no I have a new business I do have a customer reached out to me and was asking about that they want an application and that you may be able to open it up for applications or if they were allowed to make an application if we are going to accept applications it needs to be publicized for a minimum of let me decide and we don't have to I just was trying to give them yeah well we cannot just open it for one we have to get an open facility and Judge Lane has inquired about asking for some opiate funds he's working on some project about potentially renting the National Guard building and having some dental and medical services going in there on a monthly basis so I need you to come up with a category I'm not sure I'm working with Debbie and I have been meeting I heard that he's working on the meeting that we had at the hospital last week there's a position that there's a position that is trying to set up healthcare for under and uninsured with Hickman being the pilot so we need to talk about that they could possibly rent the National Guard Armory building for that that was one of the issues that we had with this one poll but the other fence that he's applying for is location correct apparently the state has nobody interested in buying it for $100 a month that's what he said I'm sorry I got real excited uh huh do we want to open up the grant process again what's it well we'll add weekly funds I don't know how much but I think if we fund I want to say don't want to throw that thing at me because I know that's not grammatically correct I think for you to say if we fund the Hickman County prevention coalition we're still going to have about $100 a month to fund the Hickman County prevention coalition we're still going to have about $100 a month to fund the Hickman County prevention coalition we're still going to have 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