School Board · Meeting · Apr 19, 2023

13:2813 minutes, 28 secondsall right important 13:4013 minutes, 40 seconds[Music] 13:4613 minutes, 46 secondslet me get this started welcome to Hickman Kenny's Board of Education directors interviewed 13:5313 minutes, 53 secondssession request for you in the audience is your main quiet and silence your cell phones process to be conducted or at least time and professionally 14:0114 minutes, 1 secondwill follow the same procedure with each candidate each candidate will be asked to make an opening statement and then we'll be asked to protocol questions 14:0914 minutes, 9 secondsfollowed by a closing statement in order to be fair and impartial each candidate has been allotted 30 minutes 14:1614 minutes, 16 secondsthe first one we're having business she'll be in in a moment 14:2714 minutes, 27 secondsma'am all right thank you 14:4514 minutes, 45 secondsforeign 15:1115 minutes, 11 seconds[Music] 15:2015 minutes, 20 secondsyes I would thank you all so much for having me this afternoon I'm excited to be here and talk with you about school my favorite thing 15:2815 minutes, 28 secondsum uh I am excited for the work ahead in Hickman County I have done a lot of research I've driven the county I've 15:3615 minutes, 36 secondsexplored what Hickman County schools has to offer and I see a lot of opportunity here I know you all don't know me very well 15:4415 minutes, 44 secondsso I wanted to kind of start this evening with just a little bit about me um I am a person who can lead schools 15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsbut I come from a family of workers my dad growing up he was a pipefitter he worked in chemical plants in West 15:5915 minutes, 59 secondsVirginia he started as a laborer and grew up through the ranks to to doing Contracting and bidding himself and 16:0716 minutes, 7 secondsforeman and eventually someone who basically ran the company he was not he was very intelligent but uneducated and 16:1616 minutes, 16 secondshe was a worker my mother was a very hard worker she was uneducated as well but she was a professional bowler like 16:2516 minutes, 25 secondsbowling this Ford bowler so we did a lot of traveling growing up because if you're a professional bowler 16:3216 minutes, 32 secondsthat isn't always in your hometown the tournament is in a different place every weekend so I've seen the country from the back of a car with bowling bags in 16:4016 minutes, 40 secondsthe seat in front of us my brother and I um but she was someone who motivated me to work hard to stay active and take 16:5016 minutes, 50 secondscare of yourself because if she was sick she couldn't go to work so it was very important to her to take care of herself and to be able to show 16:5916 minutes, 59 secondsup every day for work so I take that from her that spirit that hard work for my parents and um now my husband is a 17:0917 minutes, 9 secondsbusiness owner he owns a small restaurant so that's a lot of hard work as well and it's kind of tuned into what's going on and in all facets of our 17:1817 minutes, 18 secondseconomy and I think that all of that informs what I'm doing with schools how I think about education and what students need when they're in high 17:2617 minutes, 26 secondsschool and to be ready for either work or college or career so um I didn't grow up wanting to be a teacher but I did 17:3417 minutes, 34 secondsgrow up wanting to be a Difference Maker I want to be someone who leads the way who shows people how to be successful in 17:4317 minutes, 43 secondslife and I that's what I loved about being a high school teacher was that I could do that for students I could see the gifts that they had to offer I could 17:5017 minutes, 50 secondssee what their strengths were and steer them in a direction to be successful so here I see the same thing I operate from 17:5817 minutes, 58 secondsa core principal of doing what's best for students and when we build a team that can do that we will be successful 18:0418 minutes, 4 secondsso I appreciate you all tonight and I'm ready for your questions all right first question belongs to you 18:1318 minutes, 13 secondsthank you for being here I have two questions um I'll read them both and then we'll go 18:2118 minutes, 21 secondsback to my Channel first one explain your interests and motivation for seeking Hickman County director job and what experience and skills do you 18:2918 minutes, 29 secondspossess and how visible will you be in our schools and Community okay first question is what you're interested okay 18:3818 minutes, 38 secondsmy interest in the job is the job itself like I said earlier I love school I have 18:4418 minutes, 44 secondsspent time as a high school teacher I worked through the ranks at central office as an instructional coach as an accountability officer Federal programs 18:5318 minutes, 53 secondsdirector and now as assistant director of schools and in each of those jobs I created systems that made our school 19:0019 minutesdistrict better so for example when I came to the board office the director asked me to help with academics we were academically 19:0919 minutes, 9 secondsabout where Hickman County is today we were not performing well not performing up to the standards that we had set for 19:1519 minutes, 15 secondsour students not performing as well as teachers felt like the student should and he wanted to know why so he brought 19:2319 minutes, 23 secondsme on as an instructional coach and we really dove into the data for students I went into the schools I watched 19:3219 minutes, 32 secondsteachers teach I watched students learn a convene small groups of teachers to look at standards and look at assessments and when I had done that for 19:4019 minutes, 40 secondsa year I was able to identify the teachers who were really pushing the school and around those teachers I 19:4819 minutes, 48 secondsdeveloped teams we call them data teams at each school and by three years of doing that job I had made myself obsolete because I built those teams in 19:5719 minutes, 57 secondsthe schools and the scores were improving because we had teachers watching each other teach and watching the students learn in each other's class 20:0620 minutes, 6 secondsclasses and identifying when the teacher thought a student learned something and they didn't really and so that's very powerful to have 20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsteams in your schools who are doing that and that's something that I created in our district so that's that's just an example of of a 20:2220 minutes, 22 secondspiece of work that I have done over the years that we are building upon and I want to see that work through I I want 20:2920 minutes, 29 secondsto bring that work to Hickman County and and see that those systems work for all students I have tried and mostly 20:3720 minutes, 37 secondssucceeded in creating structures and accountability systems you know we talk about those teams and we're watching 20:4420 minutes, 44 secondsteachers and we're observing students and when we Implement things and teachers aren't doing them like they 20:5120 minutes, 51 secondsshould we have those conversations I'm very big on difficult conversations if that's what's in the best interest of 20:5820 minutes, 58 secondsstudents and sometimes it is so this job is just the next step in that process to Leading a school system to Excellence 21:0721 minutes, 7 secondsadditionally a little about myself I have a son who's graduating from Knoxville in December and he will be moving to Nashville so my husband and my 21:1721 minutes, 17 secondseight-year-old daughter and I would love to be closer to him when he makes that move so Hickman County is a really attractive opportunity for me and for our family 21:2521 minutes, 25 secondsand then you ask about experience and skills uh yes okay 21:2821 minutes, 28 seconds[Music] 21:3021 minutes, 30 secondsso um I started as a classroom teacher I taught High School history I taught the 21:3821 minutes, 38 secondsyearbook class a little bit of Spanish when it was needed and in my seven years teaching High School I became the data Guru for the school so I looked at data 21:4621 minutes, 46 secondsfor all grades and subjects in the high school I sat down with teachers to look at those numbers and help them identify which of these numbers actually mean 21:5421 minutes, 54 secondssomething like do I need to look at participation rates for my testing because that's on this page but that's not important so 22:0222 minutes, 2 secondsteachers especially non-math teachers sometimes struggle to look at all of that data and understand what was imported so I became the person at our 22:1022 minutes, 10 secondsschool who led that I also LED our ACT prep program at our school and we took our schools average from a score of 18 22:1722 minutes, 17 secondsto a score of 21 because of the system that I created and that system for Act was very simple to me once I taught ACT 22:2522 minutes, 25 secondsprep I learned that students don't really care about that test unless it means something to them so when I taught ACT prep and developed 22:3422 minutes, 34 secondsthat program compared it with with college or career planning so now when a student's trying to score 21 on Act is 22:4322 minutes, 43 secondsfor a reason I want to get into this college or I want to study in this program and I can't do it if I don't hunt the ACT score 22:5022 minutes, 50 secondsso pairing those two things improved our scores dramatically and that that was something that came from me in observing students 22:5822 minutes, 58 secondsso after those seven years teaching High School I came to the board office as I talked about and worked with all of the 23:0623 minutes, 6 secondsgrades and subjects looking at data looking at instruction and curriculum and and just really learned what 23:1323 minutes, 13 secondsteaching looks like in each grade and subject level and in those three years I also kind of moonlighted as the federal programs director because he was half 23:2223 minutes, 22 secondstime and retiring and found somebody who would be able to help with that job so I was kind of doing that too until he retired and then I took that over 23:2923 minutes, 29 secondsofficially as Federal programs director I was also the accountability officer I coordinated homeless and Foster Care 23:3823 minutes, 38 secondsI super bus family engagement for our district the budgets for federal programs all of the data us coordinated 23:4623 minutes, 46 secondsteacher professional development and added people like math coaches and literacy coaches and then also grants in 23:5323 minutes, 53 secondsaddition to our federal programs grants because of that experience I was able to move into the role of assistant director 24:0024 minutesor I've taken on Personnel I do all the hiring and district testing coordinator so I do all the testing as well but I 24:0824 minutes, 8 secondsalso evaluate principles I organize their professional development and I am a principal coach and then lead the 24:1524 minutes, 15 secondsdistrict office team as well so that's a that's a broad overview of all of the referrals I've had into an office but 24:2424 minutes, 24 secondsum mostly I just want to say that as director I have a large experience that I want to bring and I 24:3324 minutes, 33 secondsthought about it a lot today about what I could say and how I could say it and it's hard to put 19 years of school into a into a little 24:4224 minutes, 42 seconds30-minute interview so I'll move on but um I don't anticipate there's much that would that would happen in a director's 24:5024 minutes, 50 secondsoffice that I haven't experienced before I am the person who answers parent calls I have written both bus grants so I know a lot about transportation 24:5924 minutes, 59 secondsit's just everything that happens in a small District we've talked about in the hall a lot of the people who work here wear a lot of hats and so I've been 25:0725 minutes, 7 secondsthrough those roles and More in those hats and then you asked about visibility in the schools so as a new director that 25:1425 minutes, 14 secondswill be vital that will be a big part of the first 90 days will be to be visible I foresee my office as a hub I think my 25:2425 minutes, 24 secondsdesk will grow some dust on it those first 90 days if not forever because I think being visible in the schools is 25:3125 minutes, 31 secondsvital because I'm representing what's going on in the schools and I need to be there and say this is important you know 25:3825 minutes, 38 secondsI could send an email and say this is important to us as a district but if I'm not there watching teachers teach and 25:4625 minutes, 46 secondsinteracting with students and going out on the playground and meeting people in the community that's just an email 25:5325 minutes, 53 secondsso I will be present I will be very visible I love talking to local media I 26:0026 minuteslove talking to County Commissioners I just feel like I have a gift for taking school and making it relevant and making 26:0826 minutes, 8 secondsit understandable to to the audience so I look forward to learning about the communities and attending things like 26:1626 minutes, 16 secondsball games or reading nights or spelling bees or or anything that's going on in the district thank you 26:2526 minutes, 25 secondsguys second question is two-parter uh what are your credentials and experience for handling a school budget from 26:3226 minutes, 32 secondspreparing then presenting to school board and County Commission and are you familiar with the differences in the Old State beb formula versus the new tsat 26:4226 minutes, 42 secondsDepartment yes thank you please thank you for your question I'm very experienced with budgets as Federal programs director we had about 26:4926 minutes, 49 secondsthree to four million in budgets at any one time in in just tidal budgets I never ran it in the red I never understood 26:5826 minutes, 58 secondshaving to not carry over money or send money back and I budget with a philosophy because I believe your vision is reflected by your budget so if your 27:0727 minutes, 7 secondsvision is that you want to educate students to stay in the community and you want to support a thriving Community then you should budget in a way that 27:1527 minutes, 15 secondskeeps as much money as possible in the district so when it comes to can I buy 30 laptops or should I hire an EA we probably get 27:2327 minutes, 23 secondsmore bang for our buck if we hire an EA so when we budget we budget with that philosophy because we want to keep the money as much as possible in the 27:3127 minutes, 31 secondsdistrict if not in the state so even when we do purchases we think about that first how can we give as much money as possible in the district 27:4027 minutes, 40 secondsum so that is that is a a budget philosophy that I have I have worked with our director to present to the 27:4727 minutes, 47 secondsschool board I presented my own budgets to the school board and sometimes they want a line by line description of what 27:5427 minutes, 54 secondswe're doing and sometimes they don't and I have presented the County Commission I've gone to County Commission to ask for Teacher raises and 28:0228 minutes, 2 secondspresented comparison data for other districts talking to the County Commissioners about where they are getting their money back 28:1128 minutes, 11 secondsso if you're going to invest in the schools what are you getting from the schools so we talk a lot about outcomes about having students who are educated 28:1928 minutes, 19 secondsand ready to give back to their communities because I think when someone is on accounting commission it's more than just school but it's communities as 28:2628 minutes, 26 secondswell and how is having a good school helping the community I know your county commissioner Commissioners are are 28:3328 minutes, 33 secondspretty supportive as a as a whole and I think that's wonderful because it's not like that everywhere you know in some places it's like pulling teeth to get a 28:4128 minutes, 41 secondshalf a cent of a property tax increase which which we don't always get so I appreciate how communicative you all are with your 28:4928 minutes, 49 secondsCounty Commission and I plan to be that person who can be out in front and advocate for schools and school budgets 28:5628 minutes, 56 secondsas for Tisa versus BEP I we've looked at a lot of projections for Tisa this spring the last few weeks we've gotten 29:0529 minutes, 5 secondssome more accurate ones but nothing that's fully accurate that we know of I will say that as Tisa is 29:1229 minutes, 12 secondsfunded per student instead of per position that it looks like a lot more money at first but in weekly county we got a report 29:2129 minutes, 21 secondsfrom the state that was a six-year Tesa projection and the top row of that spreadsheet was projected enrollment and 29:2929 minutes, 29 secondsthey projected us to lose a hundred kids a year because they are seeing students leave 29:3629 minutes, 36 secondspublic education and the TSA model is betting on students leaving public education so that in and of itself is a concern 29:4529 minutes, 45 secondsit's it's something that we will go to Nashville in fight against because if we're funding per student and then we 29:5329 minutes, 53 secondshave people in Nashville who are encouraging students to leave public education that takes dollars away from our schools so we have to be cognizant and aware of 30:0130 minutes, 1 secondwhere our funding is coming from yes CTE enrolled students will generate more funds than non-cte so that's something 30:0930 minutes, 9 secondsto think about the thing about that with scheduling we will think about that middle school because if a middle school student is enrolled in CTE then they 30:1730 minutes, 17 secondswill generate more funding than those who are not so those are all considerations but I think there's a bigger picture here about keeping students in schools that we will always 30:2530 minutes, 25 secondshave to be on top of thank you yes my question is how important are 30:3530 minutes, 35 secondsextracurricular activities to the overall education program and the part two of that is how would you propose to 30:4230 minutes, 42 secondssupport our Athletic program at all Hickman County Schools all right questions this fall sorry I didn't align with what I was what I was talking about we'll see 30:5030 minutes, 50 secondsjust because extracurricular activities are a great place to reinforce good habits of citizenship to to teach 30:5930 minutes, 59 secondsstudents that there's more than just sitting in a desk and sometimes those extracurricular activities are what keeps student and students engaged in 31:0731 minutes, 7 secondsschool um you know I used to teach my high school's history students about the beginnings of team sports in high 31:1531 minutes, 15 secondsschools and that started in the 1920s in the United States to try to encourage families to keep sending their kids to school when they got to high school age 31:2431 minutes, 24 secondsso immigrant families especially Farm families especially were bringing their high school kids home to work 31:3231 minutes, 32 secondsso high schools began creating teams and they said your kid can play on the football team if you keep sending them to school and that was a big incentive 31:4031 minutes, 40 secondsto keep kids coming and it still is in our rural areas especially it's a reason that parents are engaged it's a way that 31:4931 minutes, 49 secondsparents can be engaged because they can't come and watch their kid do English class but they can come and watch a ball game 31:5631 minutes, 56 secondsand it makes them feel like part of the school community and it creates pride in the school so I think that extracurricular activities and sports 32:0532 minutes, 5 secondsare essential for our students my boys were they would have loved to have been on the baseball team but they they ran 32:1432 minutes, 14 secondslike me and it looked like slow motion from face to face so I have boys there 25 and 20 and they spent their High 32:2132 minutes, 21 secondsSchool careers on the golf team which was wonderful for me because I love a nice afternoon on the golf cart watching them play golf so 32:2932 minutes, 29 secondsAthletics was important to them too even though it wasn't wasn't necessarily the team sports that are most traditional I have an eight-year-old daughter she is 32:3832 minutes, 38 secondsan artist she probably won't play sports but I bet she'll be a band kid like I was and that will be just as important to her as maybe football is to some 32:4632 minutes, 46 secondsother families so those extracurricular activities are the lifeblood of small towns and we need to support those and 32:5432 minutes, 54 secondswe need to to keep those as a focus of Engagement with families which is what they're for and if the budget needs to 33:0233 minutes, 2 secondssupport that you know if we if we find ourselves with a coaching Carousel because we're not we're not supporting the time that coaches are spending or 33:1033 minutes, 10 secondsthe time that a band director is spending with the team then we need to look at that budget-wise too to make sure we're supporting that 33:1833 minutes, 18 secondsI have a fourth question okay this uh three parts the person I'll start with the first question now this is yes or no 33:2533 minutes, 25 secondshave you had a opportunity to review test results for Hickman County yes I have 33:3233 minutes, 32 secondswhat are some areas which need attention and else you would take to address and also water some strong areas okay 33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsfantastic thank you for your question this is my favorite part of school is looking at the data and the numbers um in the packet that I gave you the 33:4733 minutes, 47 secondslast one says where are we now at the top and this is me looking at your school's data 33:5533 minutes, 55 secondsand what you'll see is percentage students who met or exceeded expectations and then the rank in the state 34:0334 minutes, 3 secondsand then the red or green depicts whether that greater subject has shown growth or not and growth means Did they perform better than the state 34:1134 minutes, 11 secondsexpected them to green being they performed at expectations so what I noticed is that especially in 34:2034 minutes, 20 secondsmath we've got some work to do because if you've got a lot a lot of students not even in the approaching 34:2834 minutes, 28 secondslevel that's a standards issue are we not are we not teaching the standards to the depth of the rigor of the test are we 34:3734 minutes, 37 secondsrunning out of time at the end of the year and not getting out of the algebra one standards taught that requires investigation it requires a team to 34:4434 minutes, 44 secondsidentify what's going on and how to fix it now if you've got something like look at fourth grade reading 30 percent 34:5234 minutes, 52 secondsbetter exceeded expectations but almost 46 are in level two which is almost there and what that tells me is we just need 35:0135 minutes, 1 secondto do some targeted intervention with those students what are we doing during RTI are we pulling students who need reading comprehension and just doing 35:0935 minutes, 9 secondsthat with them for 30 minutes a day or are we giving everybody just more reading to do so we can drill down and figure out 35:1735 minutes, 17 secondswhat's going on with individual students if we look at the data my goal for Hickman County would be that 35:2535 minutes, 25 secondsrank in the state column to get every everything in the top half that'll be a first goal and then weekly county that 35:3235 minutes, 32 secondswas my first goal now we were where you are in the bottom 10 and now we're in the top 10 percent in most areas but it's just because we were deliberate and 35:4035 minutes, 40 secondswe looked at these numbers and they didn't scare us they look like challenges and we knew how to attack them and if we didn't we found the people who did 35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsso if we've got to bring in outside sources like niet or or some university 35:5535 minutes, 55 secondshealth or our curriculum providers bring in some professional development on how to actually use this reading curriculum 36:0336 minutes, 3 secondsto help students then we need to do that you know you all are are a Tennessee all core 36:1036 minutes, 10 secondsDistrict which means you contract with the state to do tutoring and we in Weakley County we didn't do that we used our own teachers to do 36:1836 minutes, 18 secondstutoring after school because we wanted it to be live and in person and our own teachers but a lot of a lot of districts 36:2436 minutes, 24 secondsdid use the all core program so I asked one of my good friends who's kind of in charge of it at the state about Hickman County and I said I said 36:3336 minutes, 33 secondswhat do you know about Hickman County and she said I don't think they're in all four District and then 10 minutes later she got back to me and she said oh actually they are they've just never come to any of the 36:4236 minutes, 42 secondstrainings so if we're going to spend seventy thousand dollars on tutoring we probably need to look at implementing 36:5136 minutes, 51 secondsthat with Fidelity and doing that in a way that we can maximize what's going on with that money to tutor students 36:5836 minutes, 58 secondsbecause so many of these grades and subjects are really close to being excellent and they're just not there yet 37:0637 minutes, 6 secondsnow like I said especially high school math we got a long way to go there we've got to look at standards and look at instruction 37:1337 minutes, 13 secondsum but a lot of the Elementary grades were very very close to being where we want to be as for celebrations I look at your high 37:2137 minutes, 21 secondsschool English and that being in the green and English too I bolded that one because that is already in the top half 37:2937 minutes, 29 secondsthat tells me that they're doing something right in middle school as well because English is one of those subjects that just it's the same standards over 37:3737 minutes, 37 secondsand over they just get a little bit harder each year so if they're doing well in high school English it's because they were they were working hard in 37:4537 minutes, 45 secondsmiddle school as well so we've got some celebrating to do with English and there might be some lessons there that we can apply to the math that's 37:5937 minutes, 59 secondswhich one is before we start here a little past half in time or something okay which there's we just finished the 38:0738 minutes, 7 secondsfourth question and three more to go so it's fantastic probably a good base okay so this is a three-part question I'm going to ask 38:1638 minutes, 16 secondsthe first part is how would you handle complaints from parents and staff 38:2338 minutes, 23 secondsand then uh the second part is how would you handle bullying in our schools uh by students and by staff 38:3138 minutes, 31 secondsand then I'll say the third part I'll let you answer the first two parts because they're kind of related about handling complaints and bullying and then I'll ask the third one okay 38:4038 minutes, 40 secondsum I love the question about complaints because I feel like I'm the complaint department my current role I get most of the parent calls where they are not 38:4838 minutes, 48 secondssatisfied at the school level they call central office and I'm the one who takes those calls when I was 14 years old I lived for a 38:5538 minutes, 55 secondscouple years in Savannah Tennessee and my mom was looking for a bowling alley to buy and she hadn't found one yet we found ourselves in Savannah and she was 39:0339 minutes, 3 secondsmanaging a restaurant so she brought me into wait tables I was 14 years old at nights and it was a Bonanza Restaurant and the Bonanza 39:1239 minutes, 12 secondsCorporation the man who owns several of them decided to change to Ponderosa which was a huge deal in a really small town like Savannah but if you were going 39:2039 minutes, 20 secondsto wait tables for Ponderosa you had to go to a waitress School and I went to the waitress school it was at night and I was 14 years old and I 39:2939 minutes, 29 secondsfelt really weird with all the older waitresses but I remember one thing from that school and it was how do you deal with customers who were upset 39:3739 minutes, 37 secondsand the strategies I learned there I have used in every single job I've ever had it was Ponderosa waiting tables 101 39:4539 minutes, 45 secondsit was the one of the best things I've ever learned and here's what I learned first you listen sometimes that's all texts that's just 39:5339 minutes, 53 secondssomebody wants to hear wants to be heard um so you listen to everything they had to say the second thing you do is agree you don't agree that there's a problem 40:0240 minutes, 2 secondsyou agree that they have a right to be upset you agree that it was good of them to call because they're upset and then 40:1040 minutes, 10 secondsthere's a wait time and the wait time maybe you already know the answer maybe I already know what I'm going to tell this parent but I'm going to tell them that I'm going to get back to them in 40:1840 minutes, 18 secondsmaybe 10 minutes and maybe the next day but I listen to what they say I agree they have a right to be upset I take their name and number and say I will 40:2640 minutes, 26 secondscall you back when I call back I explain what we are going to do to remedy it maybe they need to go back to the 40:3440 minutes, 34 secondsteacher maybe I explained that we can't do anything about it but I appreciate their call and I did listen and I did look into it or I did think about it 40:4240 minutes, 42 secondsand then I solve it if I'm going to solve the problem if I can solve it I will solve the problem and then always follow up 40:5040 minutes, 50 secondsso that follow-up is vital even if it's like I follow up and I say I did what I said I was going to do that is so important to parents that 40:5940 minutes, 59 secondsthey felt heard and that they felt valued enough for that second call that follow-up call and that's the that's the 41:0641 minutes, 6 secondsPonderosa way but it always works um so that's that's how I handle complaints it works for me I keep records of 41:1541 minutes, 15 secondseverything so I you know sometimes you get those frequent flyers those parents who call a lot and I'll say hi Miss Jones It's good to talk to you again we 41:2341 minutes, 23 secondshaven't talked in a while and you know I have a good relationship with some of our most difficult parents and it's just 41:3041 minutes, 30 secondsbecause I respect the fact that they want to be hurt so your second question was about um 41:3741 minutes, 37 secondshandling student bullying so that starts with identifying for students what is bullying a lot of times students don't 41:4641 minutes, 46 secondsknow that they're being bullied or that they're bullying themselves so bullying is an ongoing misuse of power whether 41:5541 minutes, 55 secondsit's the size of the student or the personality or position of power it's ongoing and it harms the victim 42:0342 minutes, 3 secondsif we can educate students and teachers of what bullying is and what bullying isn't that will take us a long way in 42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsaddressing that but we can't have teachers who pretend they don't see something and especially in those transition areas 42:1742 minutes, 17 secondslike class changes or the bus or the cafeteria restroom breaks those are hot spots for bullying and teachers have to 42:2542 minutes, 25 secondsbe there we cannot leave students unsupervised and we cannot pretend we didn't hear what we just heard in the hallway and I having been a high school 42:3342 minutes, 33 secondsteacher I saw that happen a lot because you don't want to address it you think it will go away but teachers cannot do 42:4042 minutes, 40 secondsthat we have to set the example this is not permitted this is not okay we do not talk to our friends like this 42:4842 minutes, 48 secondsand I heard what you said that's not okay and we have to educate teachers because once we educate teachers and say this is 42:5542 minutes, 55 secondsbullying this is how you handle it the first time a principal or supervisor or co-teacher sees a teacher not doing that we've already had the conversation of 43:0443 minutes, 4 secondswhat it is now we've got an issue because you were ignoring something that can hurt students because bullying is a big issue 43:1243 minutes, 12 secondsand it gets bigger as time goes on if teachers are bullying kids they chose the wrong job and that's that's just all there is to 43:2043 minutes, 20 secondsit and we will help them choose the right job and it's probably not being around kids that that's a zero tolerance if the teacher is bullying students 43:2843 minutes, 28 secondsthat's that's unacceptable so we have a lot of challenges with bullying just because so much of it is now going on 43:3643 minutes, 36 secondselectronically in a way that we can't identify at school so our schools have to be a safe place for kids because 43:4343 minutes, 43 secondssometimes their phone is not sometimes home is not but changing classes and being in class we have got to stay on 43:5143 minutes, 51 secondstop of that we're going to bird dog students in the hallway we want to watch everything they say and everything they do and be present in those times when 43:5943 minutes, 59 secondsbullying could be a problem thank you so the the third part of this question 44:0644 minutes, 6 secondsum it has to do with culture so there's many many believe that our school system has developed a culture where there's 44:1444 minutes, 14 secondsthere's a perception of favoritism among the employees and staff how would you drive change in this 44:2244 minutes, 22 secondsperception and instill a culture of trust and fairness okay thank you for that that's um we've dealt with that a 44:3044 minutes, 30 secondslittle bit in weekly accounting just because in in rural counties there aren't a lot of places to work so if you're if you come from an 44:3744 minutes, 37 secondseducated family the school system is pro might be the largest employer it's probably definitely in the top three in rural areas so you're going to have 44:4544 minutes, 45 secondsfamilies who work in the school system that's that's just part of an in a rural area but I coming from a different County I don't 44:5444 minutes, 54 secondsI don't know anyone in Hickman County I'm not friends with anyone or related to anyone so I have that distinct unique advantage in that way 45:0245 minutes, 2 secondsI remember when I started teaching at dressed in high school I live in Paris which is a county over and I didn't grow up there so I didn't know anyone at 45:1045 minutes, 10 secondsdressed in high school and when my first parent-teacher conferences I taught ninth graders and they're not really humans so they were always kind of 45:1845 minutes, 18 secondsresponsible I always say my first three years were like indoctrination do you really want to do this because I had a freshman all day 45:2745 minutes, 27 secondsbut I had a parent come in and I was I was talking to her about her son's behavior during class and I said he's not able to learn and he's impacting the learning of others around him because of 45:3545 minutes, 35 secondshis behavior so I need your help you know working on this and she said do you know who I am and I said 45:4345 minutes, 43 secondshi you're his mother I don't I don't know who you are and so she explained who her dad and granddaughter and I 45:5045 minutes, 50 secondsdidn't I still didn't know who she was and I said that's wonderful I'm glad about your family but that does not help his behavior that is not as that's not 45:5945 minutes, 59 secondshelping what we're doing so um that just being an outsider is sometimes an advantage just because I can't I'm not going to show favoritism 46:0746 minutes, 7 secondsbased on someone I know um but we're always going to do what's best for students and when it comes to hiring we will be 46:1446 minutes, 14 secondstransparent if there's a job opening it will be posted we'll do interviews I will usually not interview alone you 46:2346 minutes, 23 secondsknow you have someone interviewing with you but it will clearly be the best person for the job and the best person for the job is the best person for students and if 46:3246 minutes, 32 secondswe have issues with family members in schools and that's impacting student learning we will address it we have to 46:3946 minutes, 39 secondsmove people we have to move people if we don't and it's just a perception then we've just got to get out in front of the successes that we're having 46:4746 minutes, 47 secondsacademically but being transparent is number one you just have to have to be 46:5346 minutes, 53 secondsable to defend what's happening and know that it's in the best interest of students and communicate that to people 47:0347 minutes, 3 secondsI have the next one okay three parts have you researched our dual enrollment program and should it be expanded 47:1047 minutes, 10 secondssecond part is our CTE program is our CTE program adequate to prepare students for the workforce and the third part is 47:2047 minutes, 20 secondswhat is your position on CRT and gender issues okay thank you um I have looked at your dual enrollment 47:2847 minutes, 28 secondsuh Dylan Roman is one of my favorite things my son like I said he's graduating in December that's a semester early because of dual enrollment this 47:3647 minutes, 36 secondswas through Jackson State I think you all contracted Columbia State and free Hardman so dual enrollment is a great 47:4447 minutes, 44 secondsopportunity for kids to get a start in college without usually having to pay for it which is fantastic 47:5147 minutes, 51 secondsanytime we can expand on that we will I know in our district we had issues with teacher quality as at some points with 47:5947 minutes, 59 secondsfrom the dual enrollment coordinating universities sometimes they would send or they would pipe in a teacher that didn't meet the quality of our teachers 48:0748 minutes, 7 secondsand we had to cut ties with that teacher or cut ties with that provider just because we still always have to do what's best for students so even if it's 48:1648 minutes, 16 secondsdual enrollment and it's College it doesn't mean that's the greatest teacher in the world you know I had a I had a professor of Russian history at Murray State one time about halfway through the 48:2548 minutes, 25 secondssemester he came in in his sweatpants in this match sucks and he told us he said do you all realize I've never had an 48:3348 minutes, 33 secondseducation class and we all looked at each other and thought we totally realized that because we don't know anything you're saying we just have to 48:4148 minutes, 41 secondsread the book and so so just because our college professor doesn't mean they're a great teacher and sometimes we have to make that call about what's best for 48:4948 minutes, 49 secondsstudents and if we've got our own teachers who can provide those dual enrollment courses and be that Professor for that class we need to do that 48:5748 minutes, 57 secondsbecause that's more money in their pockets too so that's that's an advantage to dual enrollment if you can do that you asked about CTE programs as 49:0549 minutes, 5 secondswell I like what I've seen with your CTE programs I have looked I've driven around the campuses and see a lot of I 49:1249 minutes, 12 secondslove that I saw a greenhouse at e-sigmund that was just just flourishing with with Greenery and so I love seeing 49:2049 minutes, 20 secondsthat I do think we get banged for our buck with those High wage in-demand careers those are the taglines for Tisa as well so we 49:2949 minutes, 29 secondsalways need to be thinking about steering our students in a way that they will be employable and that they can give back to whether it's Centerville or 49:3749 minutes, 37 secondsor Hickman County or just the region or the state we need to be able to send students out who are ready for college 49:4449 minutes, 44 secondsor career and CTE is a way to do that I also noted on your strategic plan for this year you as a board talked about 49:5249 minutes, 52 secondswork-based learning opportunities in the school we've had students doing that with our cleaning crew so they did some work-based learning either before school 50:0050 minutesor after school participating with our with our cleaning crew so that's something we're always thinking about as well is how to provide those 50:0950 minutes, 9 secondsopportunities for students I will say one more thing about CTE my brother's an engineer and he works 50:1750 minutes, 17 secondsfor Toyota in Jackson Tennessee and when blue oval City announced that they were building this Mega site in 50:2450 minutes, 24 secondsWest Tennessee we got a lot of of push from the state as a district in West Tennessee to start thinking about what 50:3350 minutes, 33 secondsyour students might need to work there and so we we're looking at you know auto mechanics and you know that's not it but 50:4150 minutes, 41 secondsis it manufacturing wines and what kinds of things do we need to buy so I called my brother and I said when you're hiring for Toyota what what are you looking for 50:4950 minutes, 49 secondswhat kind of industry certifications do they need and he said is there a certification for being on time is there a certification for being able 50:5850 minutes, 58 secondsto pass a drug test or problem solved by yourself or work as a team that he said I'll take anybody with no knowledge of 51:0651 minutes, 6 secondsthe manufacturing line if they can do those things so sometimes we we don't see the forest for the trees when we're talking about 51:1351 minutes, 13 secondsCTE we get really in the weeds of the industry certifications and then where these kids aren't even showing up to class on time so we have they have the 51:2151 minutes, 21 secondscertificate but they're still not employable so we have a lot a lot to focus on in high school but sometimes it's just 51:2951 minutes, 29 secondscreating good workers and people who can learn the job whatever it is so I think CTE is important not just in 51:3851 minutes, 38 secondsthe skills but in the ability to gain skills and then the last question was what's 51:4551 minutes, 45 secondsyour position on CRT and gender ability yes um so CRT is a curriculum issue curriculum issues are decided by the 51:5451 minutes, 54 secondsgeneral assembly and Tennessee Board of Ed so whatever they decide is what we will do as a public school district I'm not here to to ruffle any feathers or do 52:0352 minutes, 3 secondsanything that's against the rules gender issues are typically Federal and so we wouldn't we wouldn't do anything except 52:1052 minutes, 10 secondsfollow the law in that respect too I do think these are two issues where there's an opportunity to do better jobs 52:1952 minutes, 19 secondscommunicating with the public because I think especially CRT is is not something we've ever taught in Tennessee curriculum it's not something that's 52:2752 minutes, 27 secondstaught in school until you get to law school so a lot of the public doesn't know that you know they they're not in the know 52:3552 minutes, 35 secondsabout curriculum so we as as school districts and is director have an opportunity to close that gap between 52:4452 minutes, 44 secondswhat can be known and what actually is known because if that Gap is too big you're going to fill it with rumors and 52:5152 minutes, 51 secondsfear because we're all human and that's what we do so we have an opportunity as Educators and we're I'm an educator at 52:5852 minutes, 58 secondsheart we have an opportunity to close that Gap here's what can be known and I'm gonna I'm gonna get you as far as as 53:0553 minutes, 5 secondswe can to that point so that you're not scared to send your kid to school over something that that we think is ridiculous at the at the central office 53:1453 minutes, 14 secondsbut we have a we have a responsibility to educate the public about that so those issues are are legislative issues 53:2353 minutes, 23 secondsand and we will always follow the law thank you I'd like to follow up on that question please um on that last part the question I 53:3253 minutes, 32 secondsthink your answer is how you would handle yes CRT and gender issues and how you would handle them if we follow the law I think that's a good answer the 53:4053 minutes, 40 secondsquestion is what is yours is it on crd and generation okay um CRT is an issue that is taught in 53:4953 minutes, 49 secondsadvanced Law School and the issue is do we have laws in place in this country or around the 53:5653 minutes, 56 secondsworld that were created with race in mind that is not something that a K-12 student can wrap their brain around 54:0454 minutes, 4 secondsthat's why it's only taught in law school because it's theory about the creation of laws we're teaching kids how 54:1154 minutes, 11 secondsa bill becomes a law they're not ready for something like CRT so I would not support that being taught in K-12 education I do think somebody who's 54:1954 minutes, 19 secondsgoing to be a lawyer probably needs to put their brain on things like that and to to have those deep conversations 54:2654 minutes, 26 secondsabout theory of law but not in K-12 and I don't I don't think we have teachers who are prepared or equipped or 54:3454 minutes, 34 secondscurriculum that supports doing that and gender issues gender issues are personal 54:4254 minutes, 42 secondsif it's not interfering with school we will follow the law and we will make a big fuss about it 54:5054 minutes, 50 secondsokay thank you okay appreciate the follow-up answer come on the last one and I think you've pretty well answered it underscore if you want to add any 54:5954 minutes, 59 secondsmore to it should be chosen's next director are you serious about accepting and what was your purpose of how to the first 90 days 55:0655 minutes, 6 secondswould look like I am very serious about accepting for all the reasons I mentioned that that that my first answer and 55:1455 minutes, 14 secondsthe fact that I'm looking to do something great with a district that needs it really looking forward to that so I'm very serious 55:2355 minutes, 23 secondsabout accepting I did do a in your packet that I gave you the second one is first 90 days 55:3055 minutes, 30 secondsjust because I know that's a thing when people are interviewing for superintendent jobs the first 90 days comes up a lot so 55:3855 minutes, 38 secondsobviously the first thing I would do is learn the buildings and the communities and the people as I was thinking about topics that might come up tonight I was 55:4555 minutes, 45 secondsthinking you know I can't be as specific as I want because I don't know the people yet I don't know what the strengths of the people are what the 55:5255 minutes, 52 secondsteam would look like so my first job is to figure that out like I said my desk will collect Dusk and I will be learning 56:0056 minuteswhat the strengths are what the buildings look like what does the vibe of each each School in the district so I'll spend a lot of time doing that 56:0856 minutes, 8 secondsbeing out in the schools I will take some time to analyze the vision and the goals of the District of you as a board 56:1656 minutes, 16 secondsand share these with stakeholders and what we will do as a as a district to meet those goals and then convene the 56:2556 minutes, 25 secondsteam regularly I'm talking every other week and the team is district office principals and we work together to monitor what's happening in the schools 56:3456 minutes, 34 secondsI need to get to know that team because that's how we get things done that's how we people accountable is by having that team and empowering them to know what 56:4256 minutes, 42 secondsthings should look like what what should this biology lesson look like when I go into class what should I be looking for when I'm 56:4956 minutes, 49 secondswatching sixth grade math so that team develops those expectations and then they go out into the classrooms 56:5756 minutes, 57 secondsso we will set those expectations for operations and for academics because once the expectations are set then you 57:0557 minutes, 5 secondsknow if you're not meeting them but if you don't if you have an identified and defined the expectations of what what a lesson should look like 57:1357 minutes, 13 secondsor what a transition in a school should look like then there's there's no way to hold someone accountable for it because the expectations are not there so we've 57:2257 minutes, 22 secondsgot to set those expectations I'll work with the team and make sure we have those in place regarding student discipline regarding academics and 57:3157 minutes, 31 secondsinstruction and what lessons should look like and then establish a system for monitoring the progress of those things throughout the year because you can't 57:3857 minutes, 38 secondsset expectations and say this is the way it should be done and then wait till May and see if it worked that's not that's not in the best 57:4657 minutes, 46 secondsinterest of students we need to know in a month or two if what we're doing is showing progress for students so establishing that system for monitoring 57:5357 minutes, 53 secondsprogress or identifying myself with with what that system is that's already in place so that will be the first 90 days thank 58:0158 minutes, 1 secondyou we're running um anything else oh we need to go on for 58:1058 minutes, 10 secondsthe next time sure yes I will just close by saying that 58:1658 minutes, 16 secondsyour academics are what drives me here I see that there is potential I know that your students are fully 58:2458 minutes, 24 secondscapable your teachers are college graduates they're educated they know how to teach the subjects they're teaching there are just some pieces that are not 58:3358 minutes, 33 secondsin place and I know that I can bring those to the district I did a seven steps to improving schools and this is 58:4058 minutes, 40 secondsjust just my philosophy of school it's talking about the vision and the goals for the year having a leader in charge 58:4958 minutes, 49 secondssomeone who is not mandating but who is building that team and leading a team to a consensus about expectations and about 58:5858 minutes, 58 secondsaccountability you know what are we going to do if someone is not doing something we've asked them very specifically to do I write Improvement 59:0659 minutes, 6 secondsplans for teachers I write Improvement plans for administrators and then we follow up and we monitor that and then we look at those results and we see what 59:1459 minutes, 14 secondswe did worked and if it didn't we're back to the drawing board and if it did we're back to the drawing board to see how we can build on that so that's 59:2359 minutes, 23 secondsthere's a recipe for improving schools and you cannot forget to celebrate every time you have a victory you celebrate that Victory because that is contagious 59:3259 minutes, 32 secondsand if you celebrate one thing then you're celebrating more things you all have excellent attendance in this District it's that's a Country-Wide 59:4159 minutes, 41 secondsproblem and the attendance rights in the schools in Hickman County are really really good so that's something that should be celebrated we might want to 59:4959 minutes, 49 secondsfigure out why so we can we can parlay that into something else that that would impact maybe academics or operations so 59:5759 minutes, 57 secondsthat celebration piece is essential but I do think I come here with the expertise and the ability to lead the 1:00:071 hour, 7 secondsacademics in the right direction and to lead the district in the right direction so I appreciate the opportunity to talk to you all about that and appreciate it 1:00:161 hour, 16 secondsdown tonight thank you I don't get them stretch your legs 1:00:271 hour, 27 seconds[Music] 1:07:041 hour, 7 minutes, 4 secondsaround Phillips 1:07:161 hour, 7 minutes, 16 seconds[Music] 1:07:171 hour, 7 minutes, 17 secondsthank you sir how are you sir 1:07:331 hour, 7 minutes, 33 secondsthank you 1:07:371 hour, 7 minutes, 37 seconds[Music] 1:07:491 hour, 7 minutes, 49 secondsall right we're ready to get started uh 30 minutes and we're going to try and 1:07:551 hour, 7 minutes, 55 secondsstart off uh opening a statement I will be each asking you a question as 1:08:021 hour, 8 minutes, 2 secondswe go around let's get ready yes sir Mr chairman School Board citizens of Hickman County good to meet you tonight 1:08:101 hour, 8 minutes, 10 secondsthank you for allowing me to be here this opportunity is uh it's been a long journey this is a long time coming to have the opportunity to be a superintendent of a school district 1:08:181 hour, 8 minutes, 18 secondsespecially one um with a great reputation like Hickman County my wife and I moved here about 13 years ago to Tennessee 1:08:251 hour, 8 minutes, 25 secondsuh I got recruited to come up to take a over what was considered at the time the most uh challenging High School in the 1:08:331 hour, 8 minutes, 33 secondsstate of Tennessee considered the most violent High School in the state of Tennessee and we came up and we initially looked at Hickman County for 1:08:401 hour, 8 minutes, 40 secondsland and to to purchase a house or to build built here so um glad to have the opportunity to come back and and potentially do that just 1:08:501 hour, 8 minutes, 50 secondsthat so when I got to Stratford uh I immediately got a phone call to go up to the state office and the commissioner told me that it's the most dangerous 1:08:571 hour, 8 minutes, 57 secondsHigh School in the state of Tennessee and he wanted to know what I was going to do about it so I started I established a great team we consider 1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondsourselves a family at some point and long story short Stratford High School is now a Statewide accredited stem School 1:09:121 hour, 9 minutes, 12 secondsmy name is uh Mike Steele and I want to be your superintendent of schools I'm married 30 years to my wife Joyce she 1:09:191 hour, 9 minutes, 19 secondscouldn't be here tonight she is a little under the weather we have four amazing children of five fantastic grandchildren 1:09:271 hour, 9 minutes, 27 secondsI've got a Bachelor's degree in Psychology a master's degree in psychology and counseling and a doctorate degree in a strategic change 1:09:341 hour, 9 minutes, 34 secondsin organizational leadership and I'm thankful for the opportunity to be here 1:09:451 hour, 9 minutes, 45 secondsthank you for being here sir two-part question I'll ask them both and then you can ask the morning at a time 1:09:521 hour, 9 minutes, 52 secondsif I need to repeat the second one would be connected the first question is explain your interest to motivation for seeking Pickin County director and what 1:10:001 hour, 10 minutesexperience and skills do you possess for this position the second question is how visible will you be in our schools and our community 1:10:091 hour, 10 minutes, 9 secondswell I love being in the community I love being at school so that's uh definitely not going to be an issue for me I'm going to set up a more of a schedule type thing so I can allow the 1:10:181 hour, 10 minutes, 18 secondsprincipals to know when I'm going to be there so I can you know use classroom visitations those kind of things and of course certainly at events those kind of 1:10:261 hour, 10 minutes, 26 secondsthings definitely at all the athletic events and all the extracurricular activities as well try to make as many as I possibly can from elementary all 1:10:341 hour, 10 minutes, 34 secondsthe way to high school um they're you know football games I like to stand kind of isolated on the sideline by myself that usually works 1:10:421 hour, 10 minutes, 42 secondsout fine but every once in a while I get a sideline warning so that might be an issue at some point I like to win I like to see our teams win I like to see our 1:10:491 hour, 10 minutes, 49 secondsboys and girls win so being in the community and being I get asked to come speak at different functions and and 1:10:571 hour, 10 minutes, 57 secondsinvited to different functions it's just something I really enjoy doing so that's definitely going to be something very easy for me to be visible and to be seen 1:11:041 hour, 11 minutes, 4 secondsalso I'd like to be visible and I like to meet people and engage with people and I think that in this role that engaging with the teachers and the 1:11:111 hour, 11 minutes, 11 secondsprincipals and the custodian staff and all that kind everybody is going to be vital to this particular role as a superintendent the skills I possess are 1:11:191 hour, 11 minutes, 19 secondsleadership Integrity compassion expectations I served four years in the United States Marine Corps honorably I 1:11:271 hour, 11 minutes, 27 secondsserved 10 years after that in law enforcement when I was in law enforcement I was on road Patrol I was a field training officer I was a school resource officer I was a SWAT team 1:11:351 hour, 11 minutes, 35 secondsmember hostage negotiator I served 10 years and I served for a man as a school resource officer a principal named Dan 1:11:421 hour, 11 minutes, 42 secondsBuckman and I I loved what I saw in him I loved that he loved the children and he held his staff to a higher standard for what the Kid what he expected for 1:11:501 hour, 11 minutes, 50 secondsthose kids I went home one afternoon I said to my wife I'm going back to school I want to be a principal and I did I went back to school for three nights a 1:11:591 hour, 11 minutes, 59 secondsweek for about five years straight I worked till four o'clock I went to school from 5 to 10 p.m three nights a week until I earned my bachelor's and 1:12:081 hour, 12 minutes, 8 secondsthen my master's degree and at the of the day that I was vested as a law enforcement officer where I had a retirement benefit I quit on faith my 1:12:161 hour, 12 minutes, 16 secondswife quit on faith and we moved to North Florida to where I started my educational career so the skills that I bring to this position are team building 1:12:241 hour, 12 minutes, 24 secondsmotivation inspiration expectations I had the ability to provide high expectations for people but 1:12:331 hour, 12 minutes, 33 secondsalso hold them accountable without making them feel like they are not valued I have the ability to Value people and make sure that they see the mission and the vision for the team and 1:12:421 hour, 12 minutes, 42 secondswhere we're actually going as a district and I've been able to accomplish that in every role that I've ever served in going all the way back to being 18 years 1:12:501 hour, 12 minutes, 50 secondsold and being in the United States Marine Corps next question 1:13:011 hour, 13 minutes, 1 secondI have a two-part what are your credentials and experience for handling a school budget for from preparing then 1:13:091 hour, 13 minutes, 9 secondspresenting to school board and County commissions and are you familiar with the differences in the old old State BEP 1:13:171 hour, 13 minutes, 17 secondsformula versus the new Tisa formula explain please yes sir well the new Tisa formula in short is much more flexible 1:13:261 hour, 13 minutes, 26 secondsthan the BEP formula and it typically does not have any negative impact on the community in the way of raising taxes or 1:13:331 hour, 13 minutes, 33 secondswhatnot currently there are 134 districts that did not see a decrease in their funding as far as having to go 1:13:421 hour, 13 minutes, 42 secondsinto the community and raise taxes in order to get this funding so Tisa is much more flexible than the BEP funding 1:13:491 hour, 13 minutes, 49 secondsantisa can also be used on things like school safety nutrition family resources and whatnot and so it's much more it's 1:13:581 hour, 13 minutes, 58 secondsmuch easier to use towards those programs so I am familiar with those those budgeting processes and the new the new Tisa funding source the budget I 1:14:071 hour, 14 minutes, 7 secondshave uh when I was a Stratford I had a seven million dollar budget I was always able to budget that out to zero balance uh in that process I was able to work 1:14:151 hour, 14 minutes, 15 secondswith uh politicians and County Commissioners if you will to uh fund a 25 million renovation which included the 1:14:231 hour, 14 minutes, 23 secondstrack at Stratford High School so I have I was constantly in meetings with uh politicians state legislators for the 25 1:14:301 hour, 14 minutes, 30 secondsmillion dollars and I was able to get that 25 million dollars within two years of my tenure starting in Stratford the 1:14:381 hour, 14 minutes, 38 secondsschool was over 50 years old and never had a updated track ironically we won the state tournament and track but we 1:14:451 hour, 14 minutes, 45 secondsdidn't have a track and so I was able to leverage the community and local politicians in order to get 25 million dollars in order to 1:14:531 hour, 14 minutes, 53 secondsum build renovate the school and build a brand new track thank you 1:15:041 hour, 15 minutes, 4 secondsmy question is how important are extracurricular activities to the overall education program and how would you propose to support our Athletic 1:15:131 hour, 15 minutes, 13 secondsprogram at all Hampton County Schools I would not be here in front of you if it were not for football or Athletics 1:15:211 hour, 15 minutes, 21 secondsum I went to school a group very in a very tumultuous environment not a lot of consistency so going to school being a 1:15:291 hour, 15 minutes, 29 secondsathlete meant everything to me that's why I went and if you saw my high school transcripts you probably would not have 1:15:361 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsinvited me here tonight but I made it I made it and so football being there putting in the work 1:15:441 hour, 15 minutes, 44 secondswhat I want to do is I want to visit every single school and I want to I want to hear their vision for their football pro their athletic programs and any extracurricular activities they have 1:15:521 hour, 15 minutes, 52 secondsthen I want to be able to provide establish goals for each school to provide them with what they need in order to make these the best programs anywhere I want to be competitive with 1:16:011 hour, 16 minutes, 1 secondany team in the in the state of Tennessee I and I really don't want to allow any for any excuses for us not being competitive we have the resources 1:16:091 hour, 16 minutes, 9 secondsin this community to build the best weight rooms that that you can see we have the resources in this community to 1:16:161 hour, 16 minutes, 16 secondsbuild indoor facilities potentially if we leverage the right people in the right companies we can build indoor 1:16:241 hour, 16 minutes, 24 secondspractice facilities that help all teams boys and girls teams we have the facilities and we have the ability to 1:16:311 hour, 16 minutes, 31 secondsleverage to get any equipment that we need for a band and for drama programs or any other kind of programs we have I 1:16:381 hour, 16 minutes, 38 secondswould love to see Athletics grow in our elementary schools with regard to things such as as cross country or some types 1:16:461 hour, 16 minutes, 46 secondsof functions where kids can actually participate and compete in at the elementary school level so that will be a priority of mine because I believe in 1:16:541 hour, 16 minutes, 54 secondsour mission statement here at Haven County besides talking just about academic growth and academic aim we need to talk about the things that leverage 1:17:021 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondsand balance out for children and Athletics and extracurricular activities are absolutely essential to the success of any school that has been my 1:17:101 hour, 17 minutes, 10 secondsexperience so I will be that'll be one of the things I start off with those conversations early on if I'm selected 1:17:191 hour, 17 minutes, 19 secondsfor this position okay you got the next question and I 1:17:271 hour, 17 minutes, 27 secondsthink first ones simple it's three questions all and but the first one is have you had an opportunity to review test results for Hickman 1:17:361 hour, 17 minutes, 36 secondsCounty so that's yes yes sir okay and what are some areas which need attention and the steps you would take 1:17:441 hour, 17 minutes, 44 secondsto address and what are some strong areas well the strong area right now is our graduation rate we're at 93.4 percent 1:17:521 hour, 17 minutes, 52 secondshere in Hickman County the state average is 88 so a lot of times people want to look at the state average and then the district average and kind of evaluate 1:18:001 hour, 18 minuteshow they're doing from that perspective I think at 93.4 percent we've got room to grow that uh statistically speaking 1:18:071 hour, 18 minutes, 7 seconds93.4 is very very respectable especially if you consider consider the poverty rate maybe in Hickman County uh 90 1:18:151 hour, 18 minutes, 15 secondsanything in the 90s is very very respectable and anything above the state average is is praiseworthy uh our success rate however is five percent 1:18:231 hour, 18 minutes, 23 secondsbelow the the state average we're at 34 percent uh are already graduate percentile and the state average is like 39 so from a high school perspective I 1:18:321 hour, 18 minutes, 32 secondswant to see that ready graduate percentage go up past the state average but I'm not going to be satisfied if it's just 40 percent in the states of 39 1:18:411 hour, 18 minutes, 41 secondswe should be technically and statistically speaking we should be above the 50 percentile and pushing into the 70 percentiles with 1:18:501 hour, 18 minutes, 50 secondsready gradual we have the resources what's good what that's going to take in order to get there is high level leadership development from our for our 1:18:571 hour, 18 minutes, 57 secondsprincipals to be able to permeate their vision and their mission towards the teachers and the the biggest way they're going to be able to do that is if they 1:19:051 hour, 19 minutes, 5 secondsfeel supported and defended and encouraged by the superintendent of schools and that's what I do that's what I do very very well an area of concern 1:19:131 hour, 19 minutes, 13 secondsis that 35 percent of our fourth graders across the state only 35 percent are on grade level reading there is a way and 1:19:221 hour, 19 minutes, 22 secondsthis is what I like to do I like to figure out different ways of attacking an issue like only 35 percent of our fourth graders are on reading level so 1:19:301 hour, 19 minutes, 30 secondspeople are going to say well you have a high level of poverty and those kind of things I'm not an excuse I don't accept excuses for my personal life and I don't accept them for my professional life I 1:19:391 hour, 19 minutes, 39 secondswant to figure out a way with our teachers with their input more than my input I want to figure that away their strategies for how they would raise the 1:19:471 hour, 19 minutes, 47 secondsliteracy levels for our elementary kids which will actually grow our middle school and our high schools our success rates are pretty low as far as high 1:19:551 hour, 19 minutes, 55 secondsschool all the way down to Elementary our elementary success rate here in Hickman County is a little bit higher than middle and high school but middle 1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsand high school is only in the 28 percentiles in the in the elementary schools and 34 percentiles for success rate those numbers will go up if I'm your 1:20:121 hour, 20 minutes, 12 secondssuperintendent I will build a team through the principles all the way down to the staff at any school to make sure that the mission and the vision is one 1:20:211 hour, 20 minutes, 21 secondswe're on one Accord with where we want to go with that success rate those numbers will improve 1:20:321 hour, 20 minutes, 32 secondsokay I've got the next question um Mike this is a three-part question um the first two are related so I I'll ask 1:20:411 hour, 20 minutes, 41 secondsboth of those at the same time and then we'll do the third one sir afterwards so the first is how would you handle complaints from parents and staff and 1:20:491 hour, 20 minutes, 49 secondsthen how would you handle bullying in our schools by students or by staff 1:20:581 hour, 20 minutes, 58 secondsI when I say I have an open door policy that is if you ask anybody I know I know many of you all made a lot of phone calls uh in our human resource director 1:21:081 hour, 21 minutes, 8 secondsactually went on Facebook and checked me out on Facebook I was laughing about that because we have a lot of similarities 1:21:151 hour, 21 minutes, 15 secondscomplaints from parents my door my door is open 99 literally and that's not just something that people say this is this is Meaningful to me if you ask anybody 1:21:231 hour, 21 minutes, 23 secondsthat knows me my door is open students teachers parents have have a hundred percent residents to see me 100 of the 1:21:321 hour, 21 minutes, 32 secondstime unless I'm in a meeting that I just cannot uh stop I'm going to stop everything I'm doing to see the community a Community member a parent or 1:21:401 hour, 21 minutes, 40 secondseven a student so when I get a complaint one of the first things I'm going to do is ask that parent if they've actually had a chance to speak to the school's 1:21:481 hour, 21 minutes, 48 secondsprincipal I want the principals of this District to understand that not only are they valued they are they're the key the 1:21:551 hour, 21 minutes, 55 secondsprincipal the leadership of the schools they're the key if I don't do my job as a director that's going to be known real relatively quick this principles of the 1:22:031 hour, 22 minutes, 3 secondsschool are the key to the success of the school their leadership how they hold folks accountable in a way that encourages them how they support their 1:22:121 hour, 22 minutes, 12 secondsteachers how they run their entire building this is what I do really really well and I want to come here and do that for Hickman County so I'm going to ask 1:22:191 hour, 22 minutes, 19 secondsthat parent have they spoken to the principal Source I'm going to give that principal an opportunity to understand where the complaint is coming from and 1:22:261 hour, 22 minutes, 26 secondsthen go from there if that prints if that parent says Hey the principal and I've already spoke we don't see eye to eye then what I'm going to do is ask 1:22:341 hour, 22 minutes, 34 secondsthat parent to hold off for a day or two until I can get the more particulars from the principal and about the situation that they're concerned with 1:22:411 hour, 22 minutes, 41 secondsand I'm always thinking win-win so there is most of the time you can do have a win-win process with with people that 1:22:481 hour, 22 minutes, 48 secondsparent is concerned about something and even if they're 100 correct or they're 100 incorrect even if the the school maybe has done something made a mistake 1:22:561 hour, 22 minutes, 56 secondsthat parent is still concerned about that and that needs to be addressed in a professional way that parent needs to leave there even if they don't get their 1:23:041 hour, 23 minutes, 4 secondsway they need to leave that principal's office or my office feeling supported and feeling valued so that's how I would handle complaints from from parents but 1:23:131 hour, 23 minutes, 13 secondslet me say this as well Sir Mr Willow says that is that I answer every phone call and every email I get that day I don't wait typically I think if some of 1:23:211 hour, 23 minutes, 21 secondsy'all have had a chance to reach out to me I I got back with you immediately I called you back immediately I have devices that are provided to me I feel 1:23:291 hour, 23 minutes, 29 secondslike every email every phone call needs to be responded to so I imagine in this role I'll get a lot of those I'll respond to every single one of them so 1:23:371 hour, 23 minutes, 37 secondsbeing visible in the community and being available to the community uh I'm very very good at that and I'm not talking about within 24 hours I'm 1:23:461 hour, 23 minutes, 46 secondstalking about within an hour I get back to you via email or text or phone call so I would expect my principals to be doing the same thing uh when they have 1:23:541 hour, 23 minutes, 54 secondsparent complaints and then I would also be training them and helping them develop into that ability to be able to establish the win-win outcome for that 1:24:021 hour, 24 minutes, 2 secondsbullying is unacceptable I don't tolerate it any form or fashion the only caveat to that is that sometimes what 1:24:101 hour, 24 minutes, 10 secondspeople would consider bullying may not constitute bullying so a lot of times when it comes to children on children I'm very mindful to make sure that I've 1:24:181 hour, 24 minutes, 18 secondsgot the facts and the situation correct because I don't want to label a student a bully when it really wasn't bullied but I also want to take the time and the 1:24:271 hour, 24 minutes, 27 secondsopportunity to not only explain that to the parents but also maybe help people understand what true bullying looks like you know it's on it's about repetitive 1:24:351 hour, 24 minutes, 35 secondsacts of control and maybe violence and maybe intimidation it's not about a one-time thing where somebody lost the 1:24:431 hour, 24 minutes, 43 secondsyou know lost the battle this one particular time there's got it's got to be repetitive in nature uh listen there's not a lot of tolerance for adults bullying other adults I mean we 1:24:521 hour, 24 minutes, 52 secondsare professionals we are grown we should know better and there won't be a lot of tolerance for that when if if I come across a situation to where I deem that 1:25:011 hour, 25 minutes, 1 secondit's actually been bullying uh that I'm going to address that very very quickly with our human resource department and with you know I don't ever pride myself 1:25:091 hour, 25 minutes, 9 secondson you know having somebody leave the district but I do pride myself on that person understanding what the expectation is with regard to anything 1:25:161 hour, 25 minutes, 16 secondsespecially when it comes to something like bullying in the workforce so any kind of harassment in the workforce is zero tolerance with me any kind of 1:25:251 hour, 25 minutes, 25 secondsharassment and certainly any kind of bullying is would be a zero tolerance policy for me okay and then just a quick follow-up on 1:25:331 hour, 25 minutes, 33 secondsthat one you mentioned addressing some stuff through human resources department um you know our maybe because our 1:25:401 hour, 25 minutes, 40 secondsdistrict is small but you're not going to find a door in this building that says human resources department it's you you are very much going to be the 1:25:471 hour, 25 minutes, 47 secondsreasons just want to make sure you understand that so it's one of the many hats that you have to wear 1:25:541 hour, 25 minutes, 54 secondsthe third question I was going to ask you um is uh uh there's a perception among many 1:26:021 hour, 26 minutes, 2 secondsthat we've developed a culture in our in our school system of favoritism 1:26:091 hour, 26 minutes, 9 secondsand uh it's it has a negative effect on employees and how would you drive change in this area and then instill a culture 1:26:181 hour, 26 minutes, 18 secondsof trust and fairness it's always nice to be able to help 1:26:281 hour, 26 minutes, 28 secondssomebody you know it's always nice to be able to offer opportunity to someone you know especially if it's a close friend it's even better if that close friend 1:26:351 hour, 26 minutes, 35 secondsturns out to be a very highly ethical and a highly competent person then then it's a win-win for everybody you get to help somebody out and they get to come 1:26:431 hour, 26 minutes, 43 secondsin and do a great job in whatever role that they are going to be in the only caveat to that is when that 1:26:511 hour, 26 minutes, 51 secondsfavoritism or that friendship is has a negative impact on a culture whether it's a district culture a school culture or certainly if it impacts students one 1:27:001 hour, 27 minutesof the things I'm going to do Mr Willis is all my decisions every decision I make will always first consider what's 1:27:071 hour, 27 minutes, 7 secondsbest for children and and that I was telling I I think I was telling Ms Baker at the internet on the phone that that when you do that when your focus is on children and that's where you're you're 1:27:151 hour, 27 minutes, 15 secondsengaging uh issues and making decisions with those issues uh the answer usually comes right to itself and it's usually it's 99 of the time is the right answer 1:27:241 hour, 27 minutes, 24 secondswhen you're always considering what's best for children then you have intent some people just want to show favoritism and do things 1:27:311 hour, 27 minutes, 31 secondsfor a friend and then and the intent is just basically to provide something that they should have never been able to provide so I'll take a look at every 1:27:391 hour, 27 minutes, 39 secondssingle scenario starting off from day one July 1st I'll start looking at every scenario that comes across my desk and 1:27:461 hour, 27 minutes, 46 secondsI'll start formulating what the intent was for this favoritism or this nepotism and then I'm gonna have to make up some hard choices about that to make sure 1:27:541 hour, 27 minutes, 54 secondsit's in the best interest best interest of our our schools and our students and if it's not the best interest of our schools or students then I'm going to 1:28:011 hour, 28 minutes, 1 secondmake decisions to clean that up because we need to make sure that our vision our mission is what it should be we we have 1:28:101 hour, 28 minutes, 10 secondsno business going into the schools unless we have our mission and vision our understanding of what our roles and our responsibilities are first when we 1:28:191 hour, 28 minutes, 19 secondscan do that and we can go into the schools then we know that we have a chance to move the needle on all this data that we talk about quite a bit 1:28:271 hour, 28 minutes, 27 secondsum trust and fairness I'll start establishing trust tonight with these finest citizens behind me with this school board I'm an open book I'm 1:28:351 hour, 28 minutes, 35 secondstransparent I've been up and down I've been my growing up was a very tumultuous environment and I think Miss Baker somehow reading my book and learning 1:28:431 hour, 28 minutes, 43 secondsabout a little bit about me that's a different book about school safety and Leadership I hope you enjoy it uh but everything everything you see on paper 1:28:511 hour, 28 minutes, 51 secondsin front of you has been a grind for me it's been a very hard grind when I say Blood Sweat and Tears I literally 1:29:001 hour, 29 minutesliterally mean blood okay so in the line of duty getting hurt in the line of duty or you know even in in this role as a 1:29:071 hour, 29 minutes, 7 secondshigh school principal sometimes a lot of sweat a lot of Tears so establishing that trust is being out in 1:29:151 hour, 29 minutes, 15 secondsthe community talking to people I was just at Papa what's the papa gay jokes I got something to go I got some food to 1:29:231 hour, 29 minutes, 23 secondsgo pretty good I heard it was pretty good but I was talking to the waitress and she goes to the high school here in Centerville and and she wished me Good 1:29:301 hour, 29 minutes, 30 secondsLuck uh and so and I I've got a chance to speak to the owner and uh I saw one of the coaches I think he's in the tennis space in here I wanted to ask him 1:29:381 hour, 29 minutes, 38 secondsto sit with me but he looked like he was in a hurry because I wanted to pick his brain before I came over here tonight so I've already the other day we drove through Centerville we hadn't been here 1:29:471 hour, 29 minutes, 47 secondsin a minute someone told me the restaurant down the street that serves the best fire chicken close down and I'm not happy about that but we drove through here and we stopped at 1:29:551 hour, 29 minutes, 55 secondsthe McDonald's and the young man at the at the counter was a high school student I said where do you go did I go to the 1:30:021 hour, 30 minutes, 2 secondshigh school here East High School and uh I said what needs to in your what needs to be improved he said they just need to get a hold of the kids I said okay fair 1:30:101 hour, 30 minutes, 10 secondsenough so I've already you know a lot of Dreams 1:30:181 hour, 30 minutes, 18 secondswell the get a hold of them so this is how intentional and purposeful I 1:30:271 hour, 30 minutes, 27 secondsam I haven't been offered this position and I've already engaged with five or six citizens in um in Hickman County I've engaged with 1:30:341 hour, 30 minutes, 34 secondspeople on my staff that are either from here no folks from here they already know how engaging I am in all the roles that I've ever played in so establishing 1:30:431 hour, 30 minutes, 43 secondsthe trust it's not going to take any it's not going to take you very long at all to understand how I carry myself how I present myself as how I live I hold 1:30:511 hour, 30 minutes, 51 secondsmyself to the highest level of integrity and expectations for my own personal life and for my family and so you can ask anybody that knows me or has ever 1:30:591 hour, 30 minutes, 59 secondsknown me uh what you see is what you get so that trust is going to be there uh 1:31:051 hour, 31 minutes, 5 secondsfairness is sometimes a myth life's not fair so we need to get past a little bit of fairness and just do the right thing 1:31:131 hour, 31 minutes, 13 secondsand if you feel like something's not fair you need to evaluate that for yourself and you need to determine whether you're being realistic or whether you just want somebody to kind 1:31:211 hour, 31 minutes, 21 secondsof to kind of come along and accommodate your feeling of fairness but we all don't sometimes we all don't feel like it's fair you get stopped doing five miles per hour over well what about the 1:31:301 hour, 31 minutes, 30 secondsguy who's doing 10 it's not fair that I got stopped well that sounds good but I wouldn't take that to court you know you're going to have to pay that ticket 1:31:361 hour, 31 minutes, 36 secondsso fairness fairness is sometimes a myth and I want the teachers and the principals and every staff member in 1:31:431 hour, 31 minutes, 43 secondsthis District to realize that my door is open for them uh supporting them defending them honoring them valuing them is at the utmost of the utmost 1:31:521 hour, 31 minutes, 52 secondsimportance to me and so they will feel they will see that they won't Just Hear It They'll they will see that 1:31:591 hour, 31 minutes, 59 secondsrhetoric and they will see it personally and how I present myself in any any capacity so I think that that trust and 1:32:061 hour, 32 minutes, 6 secondsfairness will start going up rather quickly all right thank you yes sir okay 1:32:151 hour, 32 minutes, 15 secondsI have to take my glasses off because I might have to put mine on well if I'm squinting that's because I can't see you 1:32:231 hour, 32 minutes, 23 secondswell I'm trying not to wear my so I look younger but I probably need my own okay I have a three-part question I'll ask the first two 1:32:301 hour, 32 minutes, 30 secondsum together and then after you've entered as I'll ask the third have you researched our dual enrollment program and should it be expanded and number two 1:32:391 hour, 32 minutes, 39 secondsis our CT is our CTE program adequate to prepare students for the workforce 1:32:461 hour, 32 minutes, 46 secondsokay I look at your dual enrollment program it's pretty robust you know you got 1:32:541 hour, 32 minutes, 54 secondsPartnerships with Columbia State you've got Nashville State Austin P um Fred Hardman you got a pretty robust 1:33:011 hour, 33 minutes, 1 seconddual enrollment program my my concept on on evolving is I wake up every morning I try to evolve to a different level uh 1:33:091 hour, 33 minutes, 9 secondspersonally professionally socially emotionally religiously I try to evolve to the next level every morning so I want to it looks pretty robust to me a lot of offerings a lot of kids taking 1:33:181 hour, 33 minutes, 18 secondsadvantage of dual enrollment situations a lot of the post-secondary universities and colleges are right there our 1:33:251 hour, 33 minutes, 25 secondsdoorstep for kids to take advantage of that but I would definitely want to look at it I'm currently teaching a dual enrollment psychology class now I started after school and I got 15 kids 1:33:341 hour, 33 minutes, 34 secondsthat signed up for it the idea was to be able to offer dual enrollment after school so some of the teachers can make extra money and maybe also engage with 1:33:431 hour, 33 minutes, 43 secondsour students and ironically they only interested in Psychology I really didn't want to yes I wanted to get English and 1:33:501 hour, 33 minutes, 50 secondsmath in there but a lot of the kids are already taking that during the day so what I want to do is come in and check check out our dual enrollment one of the 1:33:581 hour, 33 minutes, 58 secondsthings like dual enrollment are that are interesting is that a lot of kids don't really understand how it works so we need to probably do a better job of 1:34:051 hour, 34 minutes, 5 secondsexplaining exactly how it works so I'll work with principals to work with counselors to be able to put on you know some of those trainings for our students 1:34:131 hour, 34 minutes, 13 secondsand our parents to take advantage of dual enrollment so in in Hickman County there's no reason why students to take advantage of dual enrollment shouldn't 1:34:201 hour, 34 minutes, 20 secondsget out of high school with at least one year of college under their belt your CTE programs are pretty robust as well but I'm always open to partnering with 1:34:291 hour, 34 minutes, 29 secondsother business owners and businesses to bring in more CTE programs your mechatronics fantastic I've heard about some of your students already graduating 1:34:361 hour, 34 minutes, 36 secondsand going on using their mechatronics training I know you got cosmetology I know you have ROTC in one of the high schools I love ROTC I just got a chance 1:34:451 hour, 34 minutes, 45 secondsto speak at our past and review I would like to see a Marine RTC in the other high school if that's possible I would love to see that and so um I'll be 1:34:541 hour, 34 minutes, 54 secondstalking to that principal about that I'm not sure he or she's interested in that but I mean I'm a marine so I would love to see a marine ROTC and the other high 1:35:011 hour, 35 minutes, 1 secondschool but I like to come in and see all your CTE programs I know you've got welding I know you got a pretty robust CTE program and I know that a lot of the 1:35:091 hour, 35 minutes, 9 secondsstudents are taking advantage of that going back to your funding question about budget and funding I know that our CT students that are in a CTE enrolled 1:35:171 hour, 35 minutes, 17 secondscourse are they're five they get five thousand dollars per student for the district so that's pretty that's a pretty good incentive in order to make sure that our students are taking CTE 1:35:261 hour, 35 minutes, 26 secondscourses I went to college all the way I went all the way to the top and it wasn't easy and I'm still paying on it 1:35:331 hour, 35 minutes, 33 secondsum but I'm not one of those principals I'm not one of those Educators I'm not one of those phds who think that you have to go to college as a matter of 1:35:421 hour, 35 minutes, 42 secondsfact the the data recently now is that you know college is important and college is good for you a degree it's not it's never going to hurt you but at 1:35:501 hour, 35 minutes, 50 secondsthe same time we have plenty of children that just want to go into the workforce and and be that mechanic or be that HVAC 1:35:571 hour, 35 minutes, 57 secondsperson as a matter of fact I just paid a lot of money to have a tree removed that fell down in the storm and that tree removal guy he's making more than I am I cut him a 1:36:061 hour, 36 minutes, 6 secondscheck I need to get a chainsaw and learn how to do that but so we need to encourage our children our students 1:36:151 hour, 36 minutes, 15 secondswe don't need to put them in ninth grade and say pick a career and then go down that path we need to we need to help them be creative thinkers and then get 1:36:241 hour, 36 minutes, 24 secondsthe up start learning what autonomy is about start learning what it means to go to school maybe that's not for you right now I didn't go to school until well 1:36:321 hour, 36 minutes, 32 secondsinto my my law enforcement career I was in the Marine Corps for four years I was in law enforcement probably five years you know when I started you I wanted to 1:36:391 hour, 36 minutes, 39 secondsstart going back to school when I got chastised in law enforcement for doing something for chasing a guide you know I chased a guy and I caught it and you 1:36:491 hour, 36 minutes, 49 secondsknow he resisted a little bit but uh but anyways I got chastised for the resistance piece 1:36:571 hour, 36 minutes, 57 secondsum I went back and I remember sitting there I was standing front and center and I was getting chastised and I remember thinking that guy's chat he's got a 1:37:051 hour, 37 minutes, 5 secondsmaster's degree and I don't even know what that I don't even really know what that is so at that moment when I decided to go into school resource and go into education I didn't stop I started my 1:37:141 hour, 37 minutes, 14 secondseducation and went and went there but I didn't start until I was 25 or 26. uh the entire time I was in the Marine Corps I didn't I didn't attend a college class I went to a lot of training but I 1:37:221 hour, 37 minutes, 22 secondsdidn't attend the first college class so I want to encourage our kids that the military doesn't have to be a plan B uh 1:37:291 hour, 37 minutes, 29 secondsa CTE programs and learning a skill does not have to be a plan B and then of course College can be a plan a or Plan B 1:37:371 hour, 37 minutes, 37 secondsfor you but we owe it to our children we owe it to their parents to give them all the information so they can make informed choices at the end 1:37:471 hour, 37 minutes, 47 secondsso the last question is what is your position on CRT and gender issues 1:37:571 hour, 37 minutes, 57 secondsabout a year and a half ago I was asked by the speaker of the house to be on the science standards committee so I was honored I was honored to do that so we 1:38:061 hour, 38 minutes, 6 secondsspent about two days two full days going through every science standard in Tennessee I was adamantly opposed to 1:38:131 hour, 38 minutes, 13 secondsbringing any kind of standard that talked about the sexual anatomy of a human being and or any kind of gender 1:38:221 hour, 38 minutes, 22 secondsissues early in elementary school and um I was I was one of the ones that helped win that argument there was there were some that wanted to bring this into 1:38:311 hour, 38 minutes, 31 secondsthird grade and fourth grade and I thought that's ridiculous who they're not they don't need that so we were able to get it into an appropriate area as 1:38:381 hour, 38 minutes, 38 secondsfar as gender issues go we're born we're created with one gender and that's it and I know that the many 1:38:461 hour, 38 minutes, 46 secondspeople are confused about that and that's okay but we're born with one gender so when it comes to gender I think that you need to use the 1:38:531 hour, 38 minutes, 53 secondsappropriate facility that where the the gender that you were born with and I think that you need to participate in athletics with the gender that you were born in with a few exceptions for for 1:39:021 hour, 39 minutes, 2 secondsexample you know you got a bowling team you know and women can compete against men in Bowling uh my wife's better baller than I am so but when it comes to 1:39:111 hour, 39 minutes, 11 secondsyoung boys identifying as a female and trying to participate in wrestling or football or those kind of things I don't believe in that at all I think that 1:39:201 hour, 39 minutes, 20 secondsthat's a very counterproductive and very damaging to our young young lady athletes um with regard to CRT when you start 1:39:281 hour, 39 minutes, 28 secondsresearching CRT critical race Theory you start reading it it starts off slow it starts off slow and it seems like you're just going to talk about racism and how 1:39:361 hour, 39 minutes, 36 secondsracism exists and how it was formed and those kind of things but it doesn't take long in the research before you start finding out that it becomes very radical 1:39:441 hour, 39 minutes, 44 secondsand very uh over dramatized right so critical race theory has no place in a public school system and let me tell you why because if you want to talk about 1:39:531 hour, 39 minutes, 53 secondsracism and you want to talk about race issues you want to talk about police brutality those are fine those are fine debates in school if the teacher is 1:40:011 hour, 40 minutes, 1 seconddoing it well and if it's moderated well those are fine topics nothing wrong with debating those issues CRT is going to 1:40:091 hour, 40 minutes, 9 secondstry to indoctrinate our students and our children into a concept that you know ultimately if you're born white you're 1:40:171 hour, 40 minutes, 17 secondsautomatically with privilege and then you're automatically probably going to have some kind of racist views towards anybody that's not like you I don't 1:40:241 hour, 40 minutes, 24 secondsagree with that I was at Stratford for 12 years I'm a white male I was at strapped for 12 years of predominantly African-American school and we had we 1:40:331 hour, 40 minutes, 33 secondshad zero in 12 years we had zero race issues that were of any significance my school that I currently serve is is a 1:40:411 hour, 40 minutes, 41 secondsvery diverse school they do a fantastic job with race issues we don't need to try to indoctrinate our children into a 1:40:481 hour, 40 minutes, 48 secondsway of thinking that is flawed I want to add a caveat to that too because as you continue to research the CRT then you also start going into where 1:40:561 hour, 40 minutes, 56 secondsthey want to kind of blanket our police officers and our Law Enforcement Officers as people that would tend to abuse those that aren't 1:41:051 hour, 41 minutes, 5 secondswhite more so than those that are white and I adamantly just oppose that kind of concept I serve 1:41:131 hour, 41 minutes, 13 seconds99.99 of everybody I serve with them all of course were fine people and they would do anything for anybody it wouldn't matter the color of your skin 1:41:211 hour, 41 minutes, 21 secondsand I believe that to be true to this day I think our women and men in law enforcement do a fantastic job and they're out there putting their self on 1:41:271 hour, 41 minutes, 27 secondsthe line every single day and I won't be a part of any kind of curriculum that suggests otherwise 1:41:361 hour, 41 minutes, 36 secondsyes ma'am can I do a short follow-up can I do a short follow-up with you just a quick question okay I want on CRT what 1:41:461 hour, 41 minutes, 46 secondswould you do if uh you had teachers that wanted to implement that in your school system tell them no 1:41:531 hour, 41 minutes, 53 secondsand they kept on uh well then they they're going to go right well I think I'm gonna put my HR hat on and we're gonna go right down to that that's right 1:42:011 hour, 42 minutes, 1 second[Laughter] 1:42:051 hour, 42 minutes, 5 seconds[Music] 1:42:061 hour, 42 minutes, 6 secondssee we've already well I'm already learned about okay I was in the restaurant I saw Barney Fife and Andy Griffin I feel like the mayor you know I 1:42:141 hour, 42 minutes, 14 secondscan be the tax collector and I can be the mayor I'm gonna put my HR hat on it's so you know we all different we should all celebrate 1:42:231 hour, 42 minutes, 23 secondsthat we think and we feel differently that's what makes us amazing that's what makes us fantastic but at the same time we got we're talking about children we 1:42:301 hour, 42 minutes, 30 secondsdon't need to expose our children to things that they're not ready to be exposed to they all grow up fast enough too fast the overall fast enough and 1:42:381 hour, 42 minutes, 38 secondsthey'll be able to make their own choices and I think that we owe it to them and we need to start getting this better when you start getting this right 1:42:451 hour, 42 minutes, 45 secondsthat we owe it to them to provide them with the best educational experience possible but that doesn't happen unless they establish you know nobody learns 1:42:531 hour, 42 minutes, 53 secondsunless they want to nobody you don't learn anything unless you really want to how do you teach them to want to you establish those relationships Mr gammons 1:43:011 hour, 43 minutes, 1 secondyou ask people across the country when I speak at conferences across the country how many all agree relationships are the number one thing the most important 1:43:081 hour, 43 minutes, 8 secondsthing everybody raises their hand then I ask them follow up how come most people don't have the capacity to build relationships we've got to figure out a 1:43:161 hour, 43 minutes, 16 secondsway through training mentoring and Leadership we got to figure out a way to engage our all of our stakeholders everybody to build those relationships 1:43:241 hour, 43 minutes, 24 secondsthat are meaningful then we'll grab the students attention to learn if you're a teacher or a principal that has a Counterpoint to that I'm really not 1:43:321 hour, 43 minutes, 32 secondsinterested in that counterpart I I know good instruction I know good education and I would have I thought that's one of 1:43:401 hour, 43 minutes, 40 secondsthose moments where I really am not going to have a lot of patience I'm going to tell you this is the way it's going to be or we'll start going down this other Road and then we'll figure 1:43:471 hour, 43 minutes, 47 secondsthat out from there thank you sir yes sir last question yes sir uh should you be chosen as our next director Are you 1:43:551 hour, 43 minutes, 55 secondsseriously about accepting it and what would you propose of the first 90 days we'll look like I'm very serious about accepting it uh I 1:44:031 hour, 44 minutes, 3 secondsdefinitely um am excited to be here uh I will tell you you know Mr Qualls uh reached out to me three or four months ago and I said at 1:44:131 hour, 44 minutes, 13 secondsthe time I could not I was uninterested in the position and that is because um my wife got sick and it was the very beginning of her sickness and we didn't 1:44:211 hour, 44 minutes, 21 secondsknow where we were going with that we didn't know where that was going to be I was excited about it um and I've known Wayne for a couple 1:44:271 hour, 44 minutes, 27 secondsyears now uh I I value Wayne's opinion of me more than he knows uh he's vetted 1:44:341 hour, 44 minutes, 34 secondsme pretty seriously he's vetted me very very seriously he's called around to people that have finally tell me I got a call from Wayne walls and those things 1:44:421 hour, 44 minutes, 42 secondsare those kind of conversations are still happening uh so I'm very serious about that and then the second piece of that first 90 days I've provided you 1:44:511 hour, 44 minutes, 51 secondswith a 90-day plan in in the folder that I submitted to you uh in July July 1st I'm going to come in on the start 1:44:581 hour, 44 minutes, 58 secondsmeeting with the accounting office staff and I'm going to also very quickly start meeting with my assistant to kind of 1:45:051 hour, 45 minutes, 5 secondsfigure out what I need to do to run I'm going to ask her her or him what I need to do to run the district and she's probably be the one that's really in charge anyways and then I'm going to 1:45:131 hour, 45 minutes, 13 secondswant to meet everybody in the district office I want to find out what their thoughts and ideas are I want to hear from them I want to figure out where 1:45:211 hour, 45 minutes, 21 secondsthey stand on certain particular issues and I want them to learn from me I want to listen to them and then I want them to listen to me and I want to come together with common themes to go out 1:45:291 hour, 45 minutes, 29 secondsand do what's best for these children in school so I'm going to keep building that trust and building that communication piece throughout the month of July I want to meet with principals 1:45:371 hour, 45 minutes, 37 secondsat least once but maybe a couple times throughout the month of July collectively and then individually I want to tour every single school with 1:45:441 hour, 45 minutes, 44 secondsour maintenance director and make sure that we have a comprehensive list of maintenance issues that were coming and then in July 1:45:511 hour, 45 minutes, 51 secondsI want to build for August 1st a Flawless opening August 1st I plan on being in every school at least as many 1:45:591 hour, 45 minutes, 59 secondsElementary as I can during drop off or pickup and then I'll make my way to the high schools and middle school Intermediate Schools the next day for 1:46:071 hour, 46 minutes, 7 secondsdrop off and Pickups so I can engage with as many parents as possible dropping and picking up I'll probably be in every school every day the first 1:46:141 hour, 46 minutes, 14 secondscouple of weeks of August nothing not overseeing just just observing and getting excited about seeing people I'm 1:46:221 hour, 46 minutes, 22 secondssure they're going to be times where I'm sitting up here in my office and wishing I was a principal still because I missed I miss the kids and miss the staff but I'll get used to that and I'll be in the 1:46:311 hour, 46 minutes, 31 secondsschool so much that I you know I'll I'll be able to fix that uh that urge to want to be back in the schools with the kids uh so that's uh that's August in 1:46:411 hour, 46 minutes, 41 secondsSeptember I'm going to start doing a lot more progress monitoring of pieces I don't want instruction to start in September I want instruction to start August 1st I know all the different 1:46:501 hour, 46 minutes, 50 secondsvariables that impact that um but I want instruction to start as soon as possible August 1st but prior to August 1st I want those plans of action 1:46:581 hour, 46 minutes, 58 secondsand those missions parameters put in place so everybody knows exactly on day one Ready set go they're ready to go uh 1:47:071 hour, 47 minutes, 7 secondsboard I promise you what one of the things I contemplate all the time is not getting in the way of success sometimes leaders tend to get in the way of success and they don't do it 1:47:161 hour, 47 minutes, 16 secondsintentionally sometimes they do it intentionally but most of the time they don't and I'm very mindful of not getting in the way of our principals and 1:47:231 hour, 47 minutes, 23 secondsour teachers success you know if if they're if they already got it going on I just want them to go I want them to go and I want them to let me know if I'm 1:47:311 hour, 47 minutes, 31 secondsgetting in their way and how I can support them just to keep going and doing great things for these kids in the schools and then so the progress 1:47:391 hour, 47 minutes, 39 secondsmonitoring piece really starts in September as we build up into well you know by September then you're almost at fall break and you know people look at 1:47:471 hour, 47 minutes, 47 secondsfall break like it's a big thing because it's so again stressful up to that point and the next thing you know it's Christmas I want to progress monitor 1:47:541 hour, 47 minutes, 54 secondsevery piece in the schools so we have a clear picture of the Strategic things we need to do to change and and or continue 1:48:031 hour, 48 minutes, 3 secondson with what we're doing in order to impact the outcomes for our students in the schools that's all the questions you'd like to 1:48:121 hour, 48 minutes, 12 secondshave a closing statement I would like to have a closing statement uh Mr chair and School Board 1:48:211 hour, 48 minutes, 21 secondsthis job I'm a career changer I didn't go into education I wasn't indoctrinated into things like 1:48:291 hour, 48 minutes, 29 secondsbuy-in or pushback or those kind of things I was indoctrinated into if I tell you to do something do it um 1:48:371 hour, 48 minutes, 37 secondsI kind of like that I listen to people I listen to every voice I added a few references that you 1:48:451 hour, 48 minutes, 45 secondsweren't that were not listed on my resume those are references from people that I just worked with this year they haven't even known me a full calendar year 1:48:521 hour, 48 minutes, 52 secondsand both references have said to to you all that uh one one reference says after 29 years of service I'm the best 1:49:001 hour, 49 minutesprincipal he's ever worked for after 29 years another one says after eight years there's no doubt on the most professional uh and the highest level of 1:49:081 hour, 49 minutes, 8 secondsIntegrity that she's ever worked for so I wanted y'all to have the most recent up to date just sporadic references so you can just you know everybody's going 1:49:171 hour, 49 minutes, 17 secondsto put references that they're going to say nice things about you on your resume I'm happy to learn that that some of my other folks have been called about 1:49:251 hour, 49 minutes, 25 secondsreferences about me but I wanted to add those as well and then there's an email there from one of our school board 1:49:321 hour, 49 minutes, 32 secondsmembers who says the work that you've done at the school has been a blessing to the community and to him personally I value that more than anything I didn't I 1:49:411 hour, 49 minutes, 41 secondshaven't even had a chance to tell him how much I value that because he has a child that goes to my school and he values the work that I've been putting 1:49:481 hour, 49 minutes, 48 secondsin there and let me just say this up front it's not about Mike Steele it's about the team that we collectively build through the whole Community all 1:49:561 hour, 49 minutes, 56 secondsthe way through parents that permeate into the students that's when we're going to find our results if we can all look around if everybody can look around 1:50:051 hour, 50 minutes, 5 secondsand say I really value you and the reason I value Mr Huggins is because of this reason and so now I'm going to do anything again to support you you do the 1:50:131 hour, 50 minutes, 13 secondssame for me in whatever capacity we serve whether it's a school board or superintendent or whether we're just friends if we can start getting to that space which I've been able to do that 1:50:221 hour, 50 minutes, 22 secondswith my teams over the years I mean Stratford was considered the worst high school in Tennessee and it hasn't been on that list in 11 and a 1:50:301 hour, 50 minutes, 30 secondshalf years and so when I first got Disturbed they had a 59 graduation rate and we were respectively into the mid 80 1:50:381 hour, 50 minutes, 38 secondspercentiles uh with the team that I built this job is all about character and honor passion courage I have all those 1:50:471 hour, 50 minutes, 47 secondsthings but I wanted to say something to the citizens here Hickman and I wanted to say something to the school board here a couple years ago my honor and my 1:50:551 hour, 50 minutes, 55 secondscharacter and my Integrity were attacked um unfairly unjustly I persevered through that attack I persevered because 1:51:031 hour, 51 minutes, 3 secondsI was going to do the right thing for kids no matter how somebody else saw it I was going to do the right thing for children and it it took a toll but not 1:51:121 hour, 51 minutes, 12 secondsmuch of one I'm a Survivor it you know but I was attacked my honor and my character which means everything to me in the world was attacked and I I 1:51:201 hour, 51 minutes, 20 secondspersevered I survived and I was exonerated of any wrongdoing but I have no doubt that when I come here if I come 1:51:271 hour, 51 minutes, 27 secondshere that my way of leading is sometimes sometimes intimidating to other people but I can assure you my heart is as big 1:51:351 hour, 51 minutes, 35 secondsas this room for these children and for the people that I serve and I believe that I serve the people the teachers and 1:51:421 hour, 51 minutes, 42 secondsthe principals more than them serving me or taking my lead I'll lead by example every day I'll wake highly motivated 1:51:491 hour, 51 minutes, 49 secondstruly dedicated every single day to this position and it won't be long before you realize that you made the best choice 1:52:121 hour, 52 minutes, 12 secondsI'm I'm welcome to say as long as I as long as I'm welcome to answer any questions or speak to citizens from Hickman County if they have any 1:52:191 hour, 52 minutes, 19 secondsquestions is the whole week I'll be fine yes sir thank you thank you for the opportunity thank you 2:01:252 hours, 1 minute, 25 secondsa meeting door let's have a moment of silence 2:01:432 hours, 1 minute, 43 secondswho would spam pleasantly 2:01:462 hours, 1 minute, 46 seconds[Music] 2:01:492 hours, 1 minute, 49 secondshello of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one 2:01:572 hours, 1 minute, 57 secondsnation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all 2:02:082 hours, 2 minutes, 8 secondsthey have a approval of agenda of some different things to build a night so I need to for that a motion to 2:02:162 hours, 2 minutes, 16 secondsapprove the agenda second we have a motion in second on the paper say aye all right all right 7-0 2:02:232 hours, 2 minutes, 23 secondsI was required board action budget amendments should in your online packet at budget 2:02:312 hours, 2 minutes, 31 secondsamendment 29 I hope that's the right number it is a federal program's budget amendment relating to 2:02:392 hours, 2 minutes, 39 secondsum some changes in action dollar funding not funding but 2:02:462 hours, 2 minutes, 46 secondsexpenditures in sr2 is the first part of that uh just trying to I think as you 2:02:532 hours, 2 minutes, 53 secondsall know sr2 ends this year we have to have it obligated uh by September 30th and completely 2:03:032 hours, 3 minutes, 3 secondsliquidated by December 15th our hopes are to have if not all of it the 2:03:132 hours, 3 minutes, 13 secondsvast vast majority of it done by June 30th but we did have to do some 2:03:202 hours, 3 minutes, 20 secondsrevisions in relation to that the big dollar line item down there up there that you see in that first part 198 368 2:03:292 hours, 3 minutes, 29 secondsthat was from um the revision that we did in relation to the bid that you are approved for the 2:03:372 hours, 3 minutes, 37 secondsHVAC uh units being um um put in place in the schools and how 2:03:442 hours, 3 minutes, 44 secondswe had to move some money in relation to that also uh the 2:03:522 hours, 3 minutes, 52 secondsuh sped director has made some revisions to the idea budget 2:03:592 hours, 3 minutes, 59 secondsand that is to move that's sub fund 901 and that's the move some dollars into 2:04:062 hours, 4 minutes, 6 secondscontracts with parents we do have to sometimes contact with parents on their 2:04:132 hours, 4 minutes, 13 secondstransportation of their kids and reimburse them in relationship to that also the revisions to the art idea 2:04:212 hours, 4 minutes, 21 secondsbudget that are made there there's some purchases that um the sped director would like to make in 2:04:292 hours, 4 minutes, 29 secondsrelation to getting some copiers at each school that are specifically sped 2:04:372 hours, 4 minutes, 37 secondsoriented and also some laptops correct me if I'm wrong or anything if it's 2:04:442 hours, 4 minutes, 44 secondsthere and so that's those revisions have been made and approved by the state and 2:04:512 hours, 4 minutes, 51 secondsthe copiers are under a state contract um with RJ young I believe and 2:05:012 hours, 5 minutes, 1 secondum and they fall under the 25 000 threshold but they are being purchased on the state contract with your all's approval 2:05:082 hours, 5 minutes, 8 secondsso we request approval of budget amendment 29 that's dealing with those uh three Federal programs you make emotional acceptance number 29. 2:05:192 hours, 5 minutes, 19 secondsmotion you have a second I'll second promotion second on this is the insurance broker 2:05:362 hours, 5 minutes, 36 secondsno absent ER it's a project Elementary School 2:05:452 hours, 5 minutes, 45 secondsI don't think he is not here this uh this bid a part of our sr2 it is for 2:05:542 hours, 5 minutes, 54 secondsum the replacement of the sewer problem that we had at the start of school this year this will repair the line to those 2:06:032 hours, 6 minutes, 3 secondstwo restrooms and down that Hall it also repairs the kitchen um and those will be done this summer 2:06:102 hours, 6 minutes, 10 secondsso this is for your appraisal okay 2:06:192 hours, 6 minutes, 19 secondsdid that come in for it with expectations or do we feel like this 2:06:262 hours, 6 minutes, 26 secondsI mean everything's in place two years ago it's probably a little higher than what we originally uh then two years ago 2:06:342 hours, 6 minutes, 34 secondsum from talking with codell uh it was lower than what our construction manager it was actually lower than what they 2:06:422 hours, 6 minutes, 42 secondsexpected it to come in at um and we think they're pretty comfortable in meeting well they are very comfortable 2:06:492 hours, 6 minutes, 49 secondsmeeting the sr2 time frame not necessarily the June 30th date but getting it done and in time for school 2:06:562 hours, 6 minutes, 56 secondsto be open um with what because they'll need to do some correct me if I'm wrong Mike they'll need to do some solving another 2:07:042 hours, 7 minutes, 4 secondsfloor inside in the kitchen and then there's also going to be a line that runs outside connecting to our sewer 2:07:132 hours, 7 minutes, 13 secondsline around the back so instead of going through the school the way the line has been it's going to go out the front and down 2:07:222 hours, 7 minutes, 22 secondsthe side base towards the softball field and the neck back down that way is that correct it's got a cross pavement both front and back 2:07:302 hours, 7 minutes, 30 seconds[Music] 2:07:322 hours, 7 minutes, 32 secondsof course I saw some Excavating new stuff in there yes yeah okay it does seem like a lot of money I 2:07:392 hours, 7 minutes, 39 secondsmean yeah this won't be pretty deep the manhole at the back is about 30 feet deep yeah and 2:07:482 hours, 7 minutes, 48 secondsuh and when you start sawing pavement and Excavating oh you're Excavating this issues you start running big trucks 2:07:562 hours, 7 minutes, 56 secondsutilities that they'll be Crossing there's a lot involved in it so I just going down so he's working a little bit 2:08:052 hours, 8 minutes, 5 secondsforeign 2:08:312 hours, 8 minutes, 31 secondsschool started and there's a so if they don't meet the deadline so being 2:08:392 hours, 8 minutes, 39 secondsthat constraint you know it's really good three months to do it we're gonna give them access as soon as 2:08:472 hours, 8 minutes, 47 secondswe can invade amen so our our construction management group 2:08:542 hours, 8 minutes, 54 secondsoh they felt it was a reasonable price for yes it's always very reasonable for them 2:09:032 hours, 9 minutes, 3 secondsyeah they thought it was lower than yeah 2:09:062 hours, 9 minutes, 6 seconds[Music] 2:09:092 hours, 9 minutes, 9 secondsand you know that's kind of what we've been running into and so this one actually like I said came in under what 2:09:172 hours, 9 minutes, 17 secondsthey initially thought when we made the initial estimates two years ago it was before 2:09:262 hours, 9 minutes, 26 secondseveryone started having the money that's been and everyone is similar to us they're trying to spend the money now 2:09:332 hours, 9 minutes, 33 secondsthe a good portion of sr3 only about 10 percent of sr3 what that has come out of has still 2:09:422 hours, 9 minutes, 42 secondsbeen spent Nationwide and um so those dollars are out there and 2:09:502 hours, 9 minutes, 50 secondsit's driven prices up quite a bit Yeah and and they know it too and um 2:09:582 hours, 9 minutes, 58 secondsbut they do know it yeah and it's it's the law supplying men and yeah 2:10:072 hours, 10 minutes, 7 secondsright yeah and I don't think they're I don't think they're gouging I don't think that's the case I just think when you have so many out there who are doing 2:10:152 hours, 10 minutes, 15 secondsso much work if they're going to I mean the work is wonderful yeah right they feel confident in getting the uh 2:10:242 hours, 10 minutes, 24 secondssupplies they need to do it because there's a bad fit's been a problem it could have been a problem there's two items that they're two items of 2:10:322 hours, 10 minutes, 32 secondsconcerned is the manhole and the and the grease trap and they seem pretty comfortable the manhole enforcing the grease trap will take a little bit 2:10:402 hours, 10 minutes, 40 secondslonger and that's one reason they want pretty quick answer and turn around on the contract so that they can so they can order they can order that grease 2:10:472 hours, 10 minutes, 47 secondsDragon yeah that's something kind of has to be especially made yeah and we will have a contingency plan in place in case 2:10:532 hours, 10 minutes, 53 secondssomething happens and you know it is delayed a week or or something I mean they do have to prepare for that just in 2:11:012 hours, 11 minutes, 1 secondcase but for the material point of views it really just PVC pipes yeah that's why is that it yeah hyping you they seem 2:11:092 hours, 11 minutes, 9 secondspretty comfortable mm-hmm make a motion to approve in the wrong 2:11:172 hours, 11 minutes, 17 secondsbusiness 2:11:172 hours, 11 minutes, 17 seconds[Laughter] 2:11:232 hours, 11 minutes, 23 secondsand I bet the materials is like twenty thousand dollars yeah and that was uh 2:11:312 hours, 11 minutes, 31 secondsthe work they have to do inside cutting up the floors and and yeah we're doing that and stuff there's two trades 2:11:392 hours, 11 minutes, 39 secondsthere's a lot of stuff we have emotions we have a second second 2:11:472 hours, 11 minutes, 47 secondsdon't combo Mr Gaines yes Mr Hobbs yes Mr headings yes Mr Lane yes this is nice 2:11:542 hours, 11 minutes, 54 secondsyeah Mr Miller yes Mrs Baker yes yes 2:12:022 hours, 12 minutes, 2 secondsmaximum replacement prepare for service bids if you have in front of you the bid and 2:12:112 hours, 12 minutes, 11 secondsalso there will be an analysis sheet for the the transparency so you can see the comparisons I'm not very familiar with 2:12:192 hours, 12 minutes, 19 secondsime I did look them up online and they're a they're a corporation so they're in several States so they're a nationwide 2:12:272 hours, 12 minutes, 27 secondswhere multiple State multi-state company we're not familiar with them in this area at all and uh they apparently have 2:12:352 hours, 12 minutes, 35 secondsto open an office or something in Columbia but a matrix Mechanical Solutions is 2:12:422 hours, 12 minutes, 42 secondsHere Local and we have some experience with Daniel Eubanks and their company and they're putting in 2:12:502 hours, 12 minutes, 50 secondsour current Esser HVAC systems and uh one of the things I've run into over the years and it's been a real problem is uh 2:13:002 hours, 13 minuteswe had National HVAC for many years and they were very dependable and fast and responsive if I call them this morning they usually Were Here by 2:13:072 hours, 13 minutes, 7 secondslunchtime if I call them after lunch they would be here by the following morning they responded I've got 24 kids and a 2:13:152 hours, 13 minutes, 15 secondshot teacher I don't have next Thursday you know if it's Monday I need you here tomorrow or today 2:13:222 hours, 13 minutes, 22 secondsand uh they they were always responsible the companies I've had since then we've had problems with that is getting them 2:13:292 hours, 13 minutes, 29 secondsto respond to us and I feel like this company uh Matrix I think we'll do just that for us and I think it's what you 2:13:372 hours, 13 minutes, 37 secondsneed going into the future I think that's what you need as a company that will respond when we're needing 2:13:442 hours, 13 minutes, 44 secondsrepairs you know we take we deal with over 550 pieces of equipment Motors heaters air conditioners and when 2:13:532 hours, 13 minutes, 53 secondswe need it when needed you know we can we don't need to wait when it's 98 degrees outside for someone to get called up to Center 2:14:012 hours, 14 minutes, 1 secondsomebody and I feel like they'll make us a priority so that's why I'm recommending them 2:14:082 hours, 14 minutes, 8 secondsyou recommended Major Tom recommended Matrix which is the higher bid because of those two factors 2:14:172 hours, 14 minutes, 17 secondsum this is for a specific project or just no this is for this one 2:14:232 hours, 14 minutes, 23 secondsfive year bid contract by the hour maintenance repair installation your annual summer servicing is during 2:14:322 hours, 14 minutes, 32 secondsthe summer months where they come in clean the coals and check each piece of equipment check the gas and refrigerant levels and make sure everything is 2:14:392 hours, 14 minutes, 39 secondsrunning and operating for school to start on August the 1st and then we do the quarterly filter changes and 2:14:462 hours, 14 minutes, 46 secondsservicing we Outsource the coil servicing because we don't have enough man to hire to do that 2:14:532 hours, 14 minutes, 53 secondsum the hourly rate you can see right there is what they charge per hour per technician trip charges 2:15:012 hours, 15 minutes, 1 secondrefrigerant by the pound and usually that's just the refrigerants what the refrigerant is by market share 2:15:092 hours, 15 minutes, 9 secondsI mean it it fluctuates an R22 right now is ridiculous it's and it's it's phasing out so it won't be a factor much longer 2:15:172 hours, 15 minutes, 17 secondsa lot of our equipment is changing as we as we're here tonight you know we've got Esser program changing out our equipment 2:15:252 hours, 15 minutes, 25 secondsso we'll be getting away from our 22 and pretty much be on 410A so that's really not 2:15:342 hours, 15 minutes, 34 secondsso the the annual summer service Matrix is thirty four thousand dollars the ime is 80 an hour so yes they didn't bid 2:15:422 hours, 15 minutes, 42 secondswhat I asked they asked about her total dollar amount and they bid it for the hour so that that's a blank checkbook because they can charge it for whatever 2:15:502 hours, 15 minutes, 50 secondshours they say it took will but so if if we were gonna pay them 80 per hour 80 an hour to do an 2:15:592 hours, 15 minutes, 59 secondsannual summer service like if to get to 34 000 would be 425 hours 2:16:062 hours, 16 minutes, 6 secondsso annual summer service on all of our buildings is that 400 hours worth of work yes it is uh it's that's only 2:16:132 hours, 16 minutes, 13 secondsallowing 45 minutes a unit clean the coal washer so we've got more than 400. you're going to get more hours 2:16:222 hours, 16 minutes, 22 secondsfor than you are for Thursday okay all right but you know he will put people out there cleaning there unless they're 2:16:302 hours, 16 minutes, 30 secondshourly rate than is a full service technique sure but they'll still have to have a technician on site to check units you 2:16:382 hours, 16 minutes, 38 secondsset Matrix is local where where are they located London Matrix is here 2:16:462 hours, 16 minutes, 46 secondsyeah okay and I'll just I'll just say that we're not allowed to 2:16:532 hours, 16 minutes, 53 secondswe're not allowed to select a bid based on being a local company that's not a reason but geographically 2:17:012 hours, 17 minutes, 1 secondin our service area and their response time is something we can consider so that's the reason 2:17:082 hours, 17 minutes, 8 secondsGeographic proximity well so but with the new equipment though we should have this kind of plan the other side 2:17:162 hours, 17 minutes, 16 secondswith this new this new equipment that should not need as much of a quick response time or do you think 2:17:252 hours, 17 minutes, 25 secondsit's going to uh or by based on your experience my experience my experience brand new train brand new high school 2:17:312 hours, 17 minutes, 31 secondshad brand new train equipment my annual repair cost was higher the first year of that school opened 2:17:382 hours, 17 minutes, 38 secondsthen or the first couple of years that school open until we got all the bugs out of it it was actually higher than my whole equipment 2:17:472 hours, 17 minutes, 47 secondsthey don't make units like they used to yeah their parts may be under warranty but that hourly labor guy is not probably some of the restrictions on the 2:17:552 hours, 17 minutes, 55 secondsnew stuff it probably makes it more suspect now like in your home units like I know all the HVAC guys I know say 2:18:022 hours, 18 minutes, 2 secondsthey're not anywhere near like the old man that just thing for 10 years you figure 10 years wow 2:18:102 hours, 18 minutes, 10 secondsyou figure how many 2:18:132 hours, 18 minutes, 13 seconds[Music] 2:18:222 hours, 18 minutes, 22 secondsall right I'll motion to approve major second motion second approval repair service bid 2:18:312 hours, 18 minutes, 31 secondsroll call mode Mr Hans yeah Mr Hudgens yes Mr wine yes yes Miss 2:18:392 hours, 18 minutes, 39 secondsBaker yes Mr gannons yes yes thank you thank you 2:18:492 hours, 18 minutes, 49 secondsannouncements we have a budget work session right after this and also remember that the next Wednesday the 26th will have 2:18:572 hours, 18 minutes, 57 secondsone in this room 6 30 for additional budget work session and uh this time we need a motion to 2:19:062 hours, 19 minutes, 6 secondsadjourn my commercial manager promotion Journey second all in favor say aye all right thank you very much we're ready for 2:19:152 hours, 19 minutes, 15 secondsbudget time do we need to approve a budget by 2:19:232 hours, 19 minutes, 23 secondsWednesday next week no when do we need to approve the board meeting board meeting Matt 2:19:302 hours, 19 minutes, 30 secondsyeah we go before the county on the 2:19:392 hours, 19 minutes, 39 seconds13. what day is it before the budget committee on the I think it's the next board meeting May 1st yes I'm 2:19:482 hours, 19 minutes, 48 secondsgoing to export Maine's May first so we've got today next Wednesday and then we got my precision on my first 2:19:552 hours, 19 minutes, 55 secondsokay unless you want to have another special call after a first floor meeting if we haven't made a decision 2:20:042 hours, 20 minutes, 4 secondsbut no yeah I think my we have four good start on this I meant to say this 2:20:102 hours, 20 minutes, 10 secondsearlier uh honor director's choice if we're satisfied if we don't have any more so let's cuts off the 25th so we 2:20:192 hours, 20 minutes, 19 secondsmade the 26th and we'd be really to make a choice or have a discussion on 2:20:262 hours, 20 minutes, 26 secondsthat and make a choice next week I think you need to put it in our agenda where we can make that choice 2:20:332 hours, 20 minutes, 33 secondsyeah I will put that in a special problem yeah on the 26th we did that before I mean that's my opinion I mean I 2:20:412 hours, 20 minutes, 41 secondsdon't think we have a lot of time left yeah 2:20:432 hours, 20 minutes, 43 seconds[Music] 2:20:452 hours, 20 minutes, 45 secondsand I think based on what we heard tonight and I had phone calls with both of them I think we've got two really 2:20:522 hours, 20 minutes, 52 secondsreally great candidates so I don't think we're in we're in bad shape or anything where you know we don't have good 2:21:002 hours, 21 minutescandidates I guess it's a week they live right and study what we got everybody needs to be prepared to make a 2:21:072 hours, 21 minutes, 7 secondsdecision next Wednesday or at least the decision to select and 2:21:152 hours, 21 minutes, 15 secondsthen go into the contract the 25th that's when negotiations that's just what our ad puts out right 25th when they had Bill found them if we have 2:21:242 hours, 21 minutes, 24 secondssomebody to come up before then you know we could we could postpone this and they could meet with Wednesday 2:21:312 hours, 21 minutes, 31 secondsI don't look for it I I talked to Wayne earlier today and kind of you know kind of asked him you know where we were and 2:21:402 hours, 21 minutes, 40 secondsum he's down here I'd let him tell us himself uh he uh he's worked pretty hard on some 2:21:482 hours, 21 minutes, 48 secondsother candidates too he's taught he's called several people without doing well and and just didn't get didn't get commitments from some of the others 2:21:562 hours, 21 minutes, 56 secondsum and uh he thinks that his opinion to me was that we're gonna have these two is is what we 2:22:052 hours, 22 minutes, 5 secondsgot right now I'm impressed with both of them I'm very 2:22:122 hours, 22 minutes, 12 secondsimpressed with both of them they're very good in Canada everybody great start 2:22:212 hours, 22 minutes, 21 secondshave we already done we already done the meeting in my agenda for the next meeting okay yeah I just said today yeah 2:22:302 hours, 22 minutes, 30 secondswe should be sure that's so that's the next one next Wednesday at 6 30. 2:22:362 hours, 22 minutes, 36 secondsunless you won't be running in here when we publish the agenda for that let's be sure that we put that on it as 2:22:452 hours, 22 minutes, 45 secondsa special call me director director of hiring action or whatever okay 2:22:552 hours, 22 minutes, 55 secondswhile we're while we're in the work session they're talking about director anybody have thoughts on our Channel you 2:23:052 hours, 23 minutes, 5 secondswant to share any opinions or I'm gonna look at this information we got yeah I mean we can play some notes we're uh 2:23:142 hours, 23 minutes, 14 secondsunfortunately we're we're bound to ever come all of our conversations public and where to work session right 2:23:222 hours, 23 minutes, 22 secondsnow we just talked to him and said there's something we want to talk about we've got pretty small group here yeah the newsman's gone 2:23:302 hours, 23 minutes, 30 seconds[Laughter] 2:23:332 hours, 23 minutes, 33 secondsbut the rest of the world that's right we got the owl yeah okay so whatever you say the Al's gonna report well believe 2:23:412 hours, 23 minutes, 41 secondsit at this we got a contracts they were they're two contractors both very confident but it was a 2:23:502 hours, 23 minutes, 50 secondscontract any other thoughts does anybody got any opinions you want to share oh yeah 2:23:572 hours, 23 minutes, 57 secondsno no no you can keep trying to encourage but I think we're going we're going to re we're going to continue to 2:24:042 hours, 24 minutes, 4 secondsanalyze and come up with I've got some more data to look at but they gave us tonight I won't go through that you've 2:24:112 hours, 24 minutes, 11 secondsgot a book to read and uh yeah I'm gonna look through them oh you haven't read this book oh not the 2:24:182 hours, 24 minutes, 18 secondsnew book I read that yeah I'll read somebody's resume but I'm not 2:24:262 hours, 24 minutes, 26 secondsgoing to read their book just to decide if I want to hire them it brings like a resume a long resume 2:24:342 hours, 24 minutes, 34 secondsyes two books gave us a copy of one of them all right budget time three while back okay uh are we just on some of the 2:24:432 hours, 24 minutes, 43 secondshard copy stuff that I gave you um I think Mr Willis at the last meeting asked for just a 2:24:512 hours, 24 minutes, 51 secondsquick look at Insurance in comparison to enrollment and stuff and what that did so um this sheet right here okay 2:25:012 hours, 25 minutes, 1 secondforeign did you not get one nothing else 2:25:112 hours, 25 minutes, 11 secondshere you go no I got one yeah 2:25:212 hours, 25 minutes, 21 seconds[Music] 2:25:272 hours, 25 minutes, 27 secondsyeah sorry about that all right thank you uh that just shows a comparison of 2:25:342 hours, 25 minutes, 34 secondsenrollment of March last year and in well the first first one is enrollment as of March this year and then 2:25:432 hours, 25 minutes, 43 secondsenrollment as of March last year and then what that change is uh overall we increased by about nine people taking 2:25:522 hours, 25 minutes, 52 secondsthe insurance we went down um by nine on single 2:26:002 hours, 26 minutesand increased um by 12 on um 2:26:072 hours, 26 minutes, 7 secondsemployee and spouse um and overall had like I said a nine 2:26:152 hours, 26 minutes, 15 secondsincrease we did not see um well so if we did see an increase in our cdhp of five and that's the one 2:26:252 hours, 26 minutes, 25 secondswhere we're contributing some monthly dollars to um that they goes into a health savings plan 2:26:332 hours, 26 minutes, 33 secondsso uh right now uh it looks like insurance is going to Trend about and 2:26:402 hours, 26 minutes, 40 secondsdon't only do this but about 225 to 250 more than last year 2:26:482 hours, 26 minutes, 48 secondsum is that just nine in the pre premium increase in the 70 30. yeah 2:26:552 hours, 26 minutes, 55 secondsso that that's not increase in insurance premiums that's just because of the change in enrollment no it's it's because of the change in 2:27:042 hours, 27 minutes, 4 secondsthe benefit that we gave and that's what we estimate if we estimated if it stayed the same if the 2:27:132 hours, 27 minutes, 13 secondsenrollment stayed the same um I can't remember what percentage increase when we first started doing this that we put in there for premium 2:27:222 hours, 27 minutes, 22 secondsbut if enrollment stayed the same that it would be about 198 000 more that was last year right than 2:27:312 hours, 27 minutes, 31 secondslast year's and and right now it looks like we're kind of trending to about 225 or 250 in actual inaction yeah 2:27:402 hours, 27 minutes, 40 secondsjust because we've had some more so recommended but at least my opinion I would keep all 2:27:482 hours, 27 minutes, 48 secondsthe insurance policies that we have so what what's your recommendation on I'm going to go back 2:27:562 hours, 27 minutes, 56 secondsI'm trying to get uh year-end projections we know we had fluff in insurance 2:28:032 hours, 28 minutes, 3 secondsand we've always had a cushion in our insurance budget we've gone down on that 2:28:102 hours, 28 minutes, 10 secondseach year as we became more comfortable with things with that change last year uh we wanted we beat that fluff up again 2:28:202 hours, 28 minutes, 20 secondsto where we thought it was going to be about 450 to half a million dollars wiggle room in there in case 25 people 2:28:292 hours, 28 minutes, 29 secondsyeah that's what I thought I thought we put 400 or so in there like right now because we are not going to know premium 2:28:382 hours, 28 minutes, 38 secondsincreases until actually after you all approve a budget what I have put in there is seven percent I got a feeling 2:28:462 hours, 28 minutes, 46 secondsthat's going to be low if it goes along your motivation and I did it off of last year's budget numbers 2:28:532 hours, 28 minutes, 53 secondsso um oh they had the 400 extra yes that had the 400 extra so I did both of that 2:29:002 hours, 29 minutesum so you just took last year's budget to start off with where we're at right now 2:29:072 hours, 29 minutes, 7 secondsbut I want to be sure and and I do think um you saw some people jump on you know you 2:29:162 hours, 29 minutes, 16 secondssaw nine jump onto the employee spouse that were not on there before and so it is a benefit that people are going to recognize as their 2:29:242 hours, 29 minutes, 24 secondsand so people may make some changes from from health insurance also as we have that benefit out 2:29:302 hours, 29 minutes, 30 secondsand it it is a good benefit so so right now what we have in the 2:29:372 hours, 29 minutes, 37 secondsbudget for insurance is just seven percent off of last year's increase from last year's budget approximately but I'm 2:29:472 hours, 29 minutes, 47 secondsgoing to try and get some at least some projections they do not need until 2:29:552 hours, 29 minutes, 55 secondsI think mid-may um which is actually after now budget 2:30:022 hours, 30 minutes, 2 secondsdoes not have to be approved by the County Commission until uh the end of June but we are required to initially 2:30:102 hours, 30 minutes, 10 secondsget them something within 45 days of their budget approval base and we will have 2:30:192 hours, 30 minutes, 19 secondsthat and buy it buying uh May 1st or even if we had to go a week longer than that to give an initial budget it doesn't mean that they 2:30:272 hours, 30 minutes, 27 secondswon't send it back and show us we have the award today 2:30:362 hours, 30 minutes, 36 secondsput an extra 400 in if everyone had stayed in the policies they 2:30:452 hours, 30 minutes, 45 secondswere in it was going to be a hundred and something increase we put 400 in and the actual turned out to be 220 something increase right yeah and there's but 2:30:532 hours, 30 minutes, 53 secondsthere's probably a little bit more than that for 400 that was what we went in addition when we already knew we had 2:30:592 hours, 30 minutes, 59 secondssome fluff in him but we also knew that if 25 people which all of a sudden jumped onto your family 2:31:082 hours, 31 minutes, 8 secondsthat 196 000 became 400 and 84 000 and 2:31:172 hours, 31 minutes, 17 seconds25 is not probably wasn't a realistic but you still had to prepare for it because we were offering something that hadn't been offered before as far as the 2:31:252 hours, 31 minutes, 25 secondsextent as to how an impacted family and it probably will continue to grow yeah I would think of being probably some Word 2:31:332 hours, 31 minutes, 33 secondsof Mouth from people who have been on it for a year and talk about it if I get more homes is this the first time that people have been able to sit there 2:31:422 hours, 31 minutes, 42 secondsthis past year was the first time we did the 70 30 plan which 2:31:512 hours, 31 minutes, 51 secondsthat's a toy right right which was much more attractive for people with families 2:31:592 hours, 31 minutes, 59 secondsso um which we knew was going to cost more money but it was going to lower the cost 2:32:062 hours, 32 minutes, 6 secondsof family coverage for the employees so you're trying to guesstimate how many how much 2:32:142 hours, 32 minutes, 14 secondshow many more people would yeah that previously had single 2:32:202 hours, 32 minutes, 20 seconds[Music] 2:32:212 hours, 32 minutes, 21 secondsum guesstimate is exactly what it is I mean because you can't You can predict like the seven percent 2:32:292 hours, 32 minutes, 29 secondsbased on inflation or something but it's hard to predict how many people are going to decide to change their health insurance and open enrollment yeah and help premium it's hard to project anyhow 2:32:392 hours, 32 minutes, 39 secondseven when there's not inflation so um it's all about how sick people got or how significant 2:32:482 hours, 32 minutes, 48 secondsActuarial stuff and so I wish they would kind of me in March so when we would have a budget 2:32:562 hours, 32 minutes, 56 secondsnumber to deal with prior to getting the budget done so but we will look for some 2:33:042 hours, 33 minutes, 4 secondsum um additional information on that to maybe tighten up the budget a little bit 2:33:122 hours, 33 minutes, 12 secondsnext week in the before you vote or give me a more realistic understanding of what cushion would be in would need to 2:33:212 hours, 33 minutes, 21 secondsbe in there um also gave you some 2:33:302 hours, 33 minutes, 30 secondsbig sheets here some long ones they're color coded um 2:33:372 hours, 33 minutes, 37 secondsyou guys may not like color coded but they do get real busy so what you have is and this is 2:33:462 hours, 33 minutes, 46 secondsthe license certified salary comparisons between on the blue bar you got us and 2:33:542 hours, 33 minutes, 54 secondsMurray County what they currently have my understanding is that they pass an additional seven percent increase last night so you can take these numbers for 2:34:032 hours, 34 minutes, 3 secondsthem on one side you have the actual dollar difference cars 2:34:102 hours, 34 minutes, 10 secondsafter seven percent however what's on this chart all right thank you as it was being proposed last night I don't know 2:34:182 hours, 34 minutes, 18 secondsum but you can we're in the red or the pink whatever color you want to call that that is our 2:34:252 hours, 34 minutes, 25 secondssalary scale for our certified and everything is based off of that theirs is in the blue what's in the middle is 2:34:332 hours, 34 minutes, 33 secondsthe difference between each step and each category it's 2:34:402 hours, 34 minutes, 40 secondsthe actual cash difference on the back is our percentage and of what we are in 2:34:472 hours, 34 minutes, 47 secondscomparison to that so you want our salary and what percentage it is of their salary 2:34:562 hours, 34 minutes, 56 secondsyou have the same thing and yellow and black at the top for our friends over in Lewistown 2:35:042 hours, 35 minutes, 4 secondscomparing their current salary to ours the same way 2:35:112 hours, 35 minutes, 11 secondsum so that gives you an idea of where we compare it to them they have a 2:35:192 hours, 35 minutes, 19 secondsfive percent increase last year I think I've not heard this year also and then you have the 2:35:282 hours, 35 minutes, 28 secondscomparison to uh Dixon County and we actually compare what are 2:35:362 hours, 35 minutes, 36 secondsfavorably to Dixon County um then we do the other as a matter of fact in a lot of areas were above Dixie Down 2:35:452 hours, 35 minutes, 45 secondsDixon County no longer offers uh Masters plus 30. if you go in with a master's plus 30 2:35:542 hours, 35 minutes, 54 secondsthen you're going on the master skill now what Vixen has a tendency to do is do bonuses or the tension things each 2:36:032 hours, 36 minutes, 3 secondsyear that they're not tied into uh yearly what's the difference between master and master of course 2:36:112 hours, 36 minutes, 11 secondsjust where you got additional hours ours is 30 what most systems do is 30 2:36:202 hours, 36 minutes, 20 secondsum 45 quarter hours or 30 semester hours for those of us who are old and went on 2:36:292 hours, 36 minutes, 29 secondsquarters that uh so I I recall there was a year that we 2:36:382 hours, 36 minutes, 38 secondsjust from memory made just significantly than our massive 2:36:462 hours, 36 minutes, 46 secondslevel chart but looking at this even on the 2:36:542 hours, 36 minutes, 54 secondsmaster level trailer we restructured to focus on our 2:37:022 hours, 37 minutes, 2 secondsveterans yeah we in 1819. and it wasn't just Masters it was um 2:37:102 hours, 37 minutes, 10 seconds15 and above yeah that's right we were concerned because we're losing right is there a breakdown like as our school 2:37:192 hours, 37 minutes, 19 secondssystem like how many Bachelor of time can you break it down by somebody's in 2:37:262 hours, 37 minutes, 26 secondseach year group yeah I will get you that so what I'm good at is that after I 2:37:332 hours, 37 minutes, 33 secondsthought we made some giant improvements and Masters and the entire year we were great Giant Steps behind you 2:37:412 hours, 37 minutes, 41 secondswell we're still behind it so so here's what I apologize 2:37:522 hours, 37 minutes, 52 secondswhen we made those changes and we did it significantly we we did a 2:37:592 hours, 37 minutes, 59 secondspercent change and then we went in and we did a bonus for one year and and were 2:38:062 hours, 38 minutes, 6 seconds21 years and above it was a 4 500 bonus if you were year 15 to 20 or maybe been 16 to 20 of us three 2:38:152 hours, 38 minutes, 15 secondsthousand dollar bonus um 11 to 15 it was I think 1500 it may 2:38:222 hours, 38 minutes, 22 secondshave been a thousand uh and then it was 500 below that well we did that following year is we 2:38:322 hours, 38 minutes, 32 secondsput it in the pay scale along with whatever it does increase it comes in and so we were focusing on because where 2:38:382 hours, 38 minutes, 38 secondswe were really lacking at the time was in those teachers that were at that 20-year 2:38:462 hours, 38 minutes, 46 secondswe were along with everybody that touches Williamson County Williamson County was poaching and the way they 2:38:552 hours, 38 minutes, 55 secondsrestructured their pay scale at that time is when someone with a masters in 21 years got to that point they got a 2:39:042 hours, 39 minutes, 4 secondsten thousand dollar step increase from what they were making the year before so what Williamson County was doing at 2:39:112 hours, 39 minutes, 11 secondsthat time is trying to go out and to get veteran teachers who's close to retirement one of those five years of 2:39:192 hours, 39 minutes, 19 secondshigher paying bordering your account and that's 21 years in any system not just yeah yeah now what you have seen now 2:39:292 hours, 39 minutes, 29 secondswith Murray County is Murray County has outpaced Williamson County because they were losing the 2:39:362 hours, 39 minutes, 36 secondsWilliams and I think I have not compared her pay scales this year but I think their pay scales are 2:39:452 hours, 39 minutes, 45 secondsprobably better we were even when we went into that analysis and that change back then for the first five years we 2:39:532 hours, 39 minutes, 53 secondspaid better than Williamson County and that just tells you that Williamson 2:40:022 hours, 40 minutes, 2 secondsCounty really wasn't going after the bachelor with five-year teacher doesn't mean they would turn them down 2:40:092 hours, 40 minutes, 9 secondsif they were good but that wasn't and we I didn't speak to anybody new people 2:40:182 hours, 40 minutes, 18 secondsthat had spoke to the director during that time and he wasn't afraid to tell you what they were doing and how they were doing it 2:40:252 hours, 40 minutes, 25 secondsand so Murray had the ability because of their tax base they had the 2:40:332 hours, 40 minutes, 33 secondsability to say we're not we've got to battle this and that's what you're seeing from theirs and again we touch them 2:40:412 hours, 40 minutes, 41 secondswe're right there when I say we touch them County recline 2:40:492 hours, 40 minutes, 49 secondsand so that's that's competition that we got to look at now I did do this a quick 2:40:582 hours, 40 minutes, 58 secondsanalysis of putting their pay scale to our teachers and licensed people for 2:41:062 hours, 41 minutes, 6 secondsnext year it's about 1.8 million dollar increase would be a 1.8 billion dollar increase 2:41:152 hours, 41 minutes, 15 secondsto our actual salary cost if I did that right I won't go back 2:41:222 hours, 41 minutes, 22 secondsand triple check it'd be to do what to put us on there we put that pay scale in place it would be about one point in Murray 2:41:302 hours, 41 minutes, 30 secondsCounty how much of our fund balance could be used for any pay increases and how much 2:41:382 hours, 41 minutes, 38 secondsfund balance do we have right now what percentage we have a little over uh or around 12 million dollars some of that 2:41:452 hours, 41 minutes, 45 secondsis tied up and I don't know the exact amount right now on the um 2:41:522 hours, 41 minutes, 52 secondsyou're okay but thank you that uh we are no longer adding to that 2:42:012 hours, 42 minutes, 1 secondbut but how much would be in there for that the bad well me we eat that you we can not use that for 2:42:102 hours, 42 minutes, 10 secondssalaries but they're my life you've probably got a report 2.4 million is probably the best okay I 2:42:172 hours, 42 minutes, 17 secondsbet 12 million there's 2.4 and you can't touch three percent okay 2:42:262 hours, 42 minutes, 26 secondsso you have to keep that inside so what percent of our fund balance is not locked in 2:42:332 hours, 42 minutes, 33 secondsI would say once you go close at 10 um no you got more than that that's available a third 30 percent 2:42:422 hours, 42 minutes, 42 secondsuh that would say probably instead of three percent we got ten times that 2:42:502 hours, 42 minutes, 50 secondsyeah probably so what are you saying are you asking how much of our phones fund balance is normally three to four percent now 2:42:592 hours, 42 minutes, 59 secondsthat's not counting what's locked up in uh outfit and all that am I correct on that no the minimum Sun balance you can 2:43:062 hours, 43 minutes, 6 secondshave is three percent three yeah the suggestion is that you have four months right uh for your operating operating 2:43:162 hours, 43 minutes, 16 secondsit's been expensive it's 2.5 that's what we have which is which is what's foreign 2:43:272 hours, 43 minutes, 27 secondsand fund balance and normally people out there districts have three some of them have four percent 2:43:352 hours, 43 minutes, 35 secondswe've got a very hot no that's nice three percent is required by law 2:43:432 hours, 43 minutes, 43 secondsand some of them have right at that I'll be interested to know I'd be interested to know these same counties what they're 2:43:512 hours, 43 minutes, 51 secondsyeah that would be an interesting we can probably look that up yeah that would be a good thing I'm not saying don't use fund balance 2:44:002 hours, 44 minutesat all yeah we have been lucky that we have not yet I'm thinking we're going to dip into Fun balance this year but I'm 2:44:092 hours, 44 minutes, 9 secondsstill running those numbers well I mean my opinion in general is it's about time 2:44:172 hours, 44 minutes, 17 secondsbut I didn't realize that of the 12 2.5 whatever that whatever it is 2.4 is 2:44:262 hours, 44 minutes, 26 secondsisn't part of that I think everybody most people don't know that right 2.5 million and a half it's 2.58 and then 2:44:352 hours, 44 minutes, 35 secondspart of that like what we talked about with the cafeteria like you have to have so much in there to cover that I have 2:44:412 hours, 44 minutes, 41 secondsthat I have that resolution I could send to you guys when it was established so that so that I don't have to ask that question anymore and keep bringing it up 2:44:502 hours, 44 minutes, 50 secondsand nobody said anything as to what it was it's actually a resolution but the resolution also states that we at any 2:44:592 hours, 44 minutes, 59 secondspoint in time which I'm still waiting on an answer we can pull that out and put it back in fund balance if we want to I'm waiting on an answer or how many 2:45:072 hours, 45 minutes, 7 secondstimes we've pulled up gone in that five hundred thousand dollars 2:45:142 hours, 45 minutes, 14 secondslow the 500 000 was put there by a resolution to lock it in okay to stay 2:45:212 hours, 45 minutes, 21 secondsthere it's because you cannot get if you've got government money there did you cannot or you've spent in it for 2:45:282 hours, 45 minutes, 28 secondsUSDA on you cannot dip into the money and go into negative so it was put there to prevent that right yeah I remember 2:45:352 hours, 45 minutes, 35 secondswas talking to say yeah so how many times it's never been taken out so how many times have the question 2:45:442 hours, 45 minutes, 44 secondsI had and like I said I'm still waiting on the answers how many times have we dipped into it and I have done a spreadsheet on that and 2:45:532 hours, 45 minutes, 53 secondsI don't know if we've had time to review it together yet but up until last year 2:46:002 hours, 46 minuteswe were basically in that balance every day because it's a cash flow balance it how 2:46:072 hours, 46 minutes, 7 secondsmuch into it knows what I asked the Lower Side saw going off my head and I had n't looked at it since a couple weeks 2:46:162 hours, 46 minutes, 16 secondsago um a hundred thousand no we we were down at times on cash flow we were down at times 2:46:252 hours, 46 minutes, 25 secondsum into the 120s or lower remaining so you went that only had 120. so you did 2:46:332 hours, 46 minutes, 33 secondsalmost uh but as soon as your revenues would come in yeah but your expenditures and so I mean 2:46:422 hours, 46 minutes, 42 secondsI I think we need to leave that alone are you suggesting that we don't they know I just want to know how much it's built into because I mean if it's never dipped into 2:46:502 hours, 46 minutes, 50 secondsoh yeah they don't need it but it but it's it's uh it is dipped into and how how steep is it dipped into uh is a 2:46:592 hours, 46 minutes, 59 secondsfactor so just yeah keep letting it right what what's that minimum legal amount someone then you're operating budget now 2:47:082 hours, 47 minutes, 8 secondsthat would work for that account if you put three percent yeah so in our let's say we had a 35 million 2:47:162 hours, 47 minutes, 16 secondsis it 30 of the total budget including Federal the 35 million three percent uh it's your operating it's your general fund 2:47:252 hours, 47 minutes, 25 secondsit's your state funds okay so that's a million dollars 2:47:322 hours, 47 minutes, 32 secondsthat's one that's about a million dollars is our required it's all required right I'm not saying yeah 2:47:392 hours, 47 minutes, 39 secondsthat's not enough yeah you're just making an analysis you know dig your quarters out of the couch or 2:47:462 hours, 47 minutes, 46 secondsanything but I'm just saying legally that's the minimum that we have plus the 2.6 or so which is the opeb 2:47:562 hours, 47 minutes, 56 secondsso that is about four four yeah that we absolutely can't touch 2:48:032 hours, 48 minutes, 3 secondsup the twelve at least but that's almost like our own personal if we County pension fund for open it's 2:48:132 hours, 48 minutes, 13 secondsonly set up for certain qualified employees that were employed 2:48:212 hours, 48 minutes, 21 secondsbefore 2000. right yes 2:48:282 hours, 48 minutes, 28 secondsthere's only because we're not fortified 2:48:392 hours, 48 minutes, 39 secondsthe last report that you got uh the book we got from tsba headed in there I think it's five counties signed up and what 2:48:482 hours, 48 minutes, 48 secondswill eventually happen last it loses money on the investment side 2:48:562 hours, 48 minutes, 56 secondsum we will run out of people that qualify for before it runs out money so a bored wife to do something with that money 2:49:032 hours, 49 minutes, 3 secondsprobably the way they had it set up originally it's hard to get the money out of it it is I mean they had it locked in could you think about there's 2:49:122 hours, 49 minutes, 12 secondstwo people sucking off this thing tsba and the investment company and that's like three thousand dollars per quarter 2:49:192 hours, 49 minutes, 19 secondslike a whole whole life insurance correct me if I'm wrong but I think you 2:49:272 hours, 49 minutes, 27 secondsyou all as a board originally put in about two five hundred thousand dollar deposits so a million and that thing 2:49:352 hours, 49 minutes, 35 secondsgrew over two million it was as high as 2.6 2:49:492 hours, 49 minutes, 49 secondsyeah they say we're gonna have a recession 2:49:582 hours, 49 minutes, 58 secondsI like figuring how to give back yeah we'll figure it out so many times 2:50:072 hours, 50 minutes, 7 secondsyeah yeah when I was about to say so I think what the point I was making is I don't think we should go down to the 2:50:152 hours, 50 minutes, 15 secondsminimum amount at all but I would like to actually see us go a 2:50:242 hours, 50 minutes, 24 secondsyear and dip into Unbound because it's built up from multiple years in a row it's viewed negatively that we have this 2:50:312 hours, 50 minutes, 31 secondsbig fun balance and I said there's no reason why we don't budget and spend in such a way that we can work here I agree I agree 2:50:392 hours, 50 minutes, 39 secondsI'm going to be careful how I say this there have been times I have wished we 2:50:462 hours, 50 minutes, 46 secondshad gone if covet had not had we would have hit them if if Esser had not came around 2:50:542 hours, 50 minutes, 54 secondswe would have hit fund balance last three years Esser is going to be gone 2:51:012 hours, 51 minutes, 1 secondI mean when our money is out our money's out you will have to make a decision on 2:51:072 hours, 51 minutes, 7 secondsProject aware next year which will be a 350 000 hit to your 141 budget 2:51:162 hours, 51 minutes, 16 secondsexpand your social workers um you all have to make decisions on 2:51:252 hours, 51 minutes, 25 secondsnurses this year the request that they have made is that we funded eight and that's why we put in the budget that 2:51:342 hours, 51 minutes, 34 secondsdoesn't mean it doesn't need to come out but that's what we've initially put in there for you guys to look at and see how that hits 2:51:412 hours, 51 minutes, 41 secondsthat's an additional two hundred thousand dollars going from four that currently hits the budget well 2:51:502 hours, 51 minutes, 50 secondsabout 150 000 and then when you hit the benefit site so with those two things right there you're looking at a 2:51:582 hours, 51 minutes, 58 secondshalf a million dollars and even this what we just approved is that repairs that was over half of me and if we hadn't had the extra funds we would have 2:52:072 hours, 52 minutes, 7 secondsdone that you would have had to go into Fun balance the prices on fixing things will not go down 2:52:152 hours, 52 minutes, 15 secondsyeah it's the amount of Health needs for nurses will not go down I mean they're gonna they're they have grown or 2:52:232 hours, 52 minutes, 23 secondsconsiderably over the years the amount of patients that they deal with so what we have always done in 2:52:312 hours, 52 minutes, 31 secondssetting a budget and if you work for a government if you work for a federal government agency you know 2:52:392 hours, 52 minutes, 39 secondsthat they spend because if they don't get it if they don't spend it they don't get out the next year right if you work 2:52:462 hours, 52 minutes, 46 secondsfor a private company that's not how it goes literal would we have never the way we have tried to do a budget and 2:52:542 hours, 52 minutes, 54 secondsthis goes back to Dr Axel slang at Lipscomb is you look at your worst case scenario from your expenditure side 2:53:042 hours, 53 minutes, 4 secondscan you look at your worst case scenario from your Revenue side but you only spend 2:53:122 hours, 53 minutes, 12 secondswhat you have to spend we don't go out looking to spend so when we create a budget 2:53:192 hours, 53 minutes, 19 secondsEric doesn't come into me and say hey I've got fifteen thousand dollars left in there can I go get this 2:53:272 hours, 53 minutes, 27 secondsno now if Eric needs it he comes in and say I've got fifteen thousand dollars in that item or I need this do we have somewhere in line item that I can get 2:53:362 hours, 53 minutes, 36 secondsthat and if we do we look forward and get it but we don't go in to saying hey let's spin to where we're hitting 2:53:442 hours, 53 minutes, 44 secondsfund balance and that 100 agree with you I mean I think everyone would agree with that I mean we should always be as smart 2:53:532 hours, 53 minutes, 53 secondswith actual spending as possible um but we we consistently spend 2:54:012 hours, 54 minutes, 1 second92 or something percent 2:54:052 hours, 54 minutes, 5 seconds[Music] 2:54:082 hours, 54 minutes, 8 secondsso no knowing that and knowing this um I don't think we need to be afraid to 2:54:152 hours, 54 minutes, 15 secondsincrease this yeah yeah I don't I don't either I don't know if you can take a 1.8 pound dollar yeah no I'm not going 2:54:242 hours, 54 minutes, 24 secondsagain I'm not saying goat yeah but to keep it right we can't we might not be able to pull it all the way up there but I agree we can do something that at 2:54:332 hours, 54 minutes, 33 secondsleast shows up well the problem is all the numbers that you're seeing on are last year's so they're all all these 2:54:412 hours, 54 minutes, 41 secondsboards are going to go up too yeah so if we go up the same percentage our competitor competitive competing 2:54:482 hours, 54 minutes, 48 secondscounties go up do you look at it like we looked at it 2:54:562 hours, 54 minutes, 56 secondsthe last time and that first year to see how it would really hit us and impact us with 2:55:042 hours, 55 minutes, 4 secondseverything else we were doing do you look at it again that first year from a 2:55:112 hours, 55 minutes, 11 secondsbonus standpoint that's better that's what we did the first time when we were going to significantly we've done 2:55:202 hours, 55 minutes, 20 secondsfour percent about every year but that year we were going we were restructuring everything and we did it as a one-time 2:55:272 hours, 55 minutes, 27 secondsbonus to see what it would do to our budget to see if we could do it in the scale for 2:55:342 hours, 55 minutes, 34 secondsthe next year yes because if you added doing that but my opinion on that is if 2:55:452 hours, 55 minutes, 45 secondsyou're going to spend it put it in the scale I mean I'd say put it on the scale I like bonuses but I like personally I like tying bonuses to Performance 2:55:542 hours, 55 minutes, 54 secondsso so I like the bonuses for the um differentiated paper plan I think 2:56:022 hours, 56 minutes, 2 secondsbonuses are real good in that so our people their higher performers or difficult to fill where you need to 2:56:092 hours, 56 minutes, 9 secondsspend extra money to get a certain job or something like that that's where we all spend bonuses we need a zoology teacher who can't find one anywhere you 2:56:172 hours, 56 minutes, 17 secondspay extra money to get them that's not that's that's where I think if the bonus money is better spent I think if we want to just give everybody a bonus I say you 2:56:262 hours, 56 minutes, 26 secondsput it in the pay scale I mean that's a commitment that you're that you're going to pay this is your salary because this isn't this chart 2:56:342 hours, 56 minutes, 34 secondsdoesn't show bonuses we don't even know if the other counties do do bonuses they buy this is base pay 2:56:412 hours, 56 minutes, 41 secondsscale base pay scale and for everybody who hasn't seen it we're not competitive 2:56:492 hours, 56 minutes, 49 secondswe're not real far off and it's something oh there there is a couple lines here when we're about people 2:56:562 hours, 56 minutes, 56 secondsthey just said that Murray County just went up seven percent real 2:57:032 hours, 57 minutes, 3 secondsway Farm here's the thing here's the thing was pay skills and I think I brought it up last year when we started talking about it you start trying to 2:57:112 hours, 57 minutes, 11 secondsTarget different areas it's always going to change it's not going to fit that person next year and from a teacher's standpoint when I 2:57:202 hours, 57 minutes, 20 secondswas out there and you didn't get much of a pay raise from year to year I think even one year is like fifty dollars I'd rather see us put give the teachers a 2:57:292 hours, 57 minutes, 29 secondspay raise which establishes from this year to next year you get 500 every year you get a 500 you know that 2:57:372 hours, 57 minutes, 37 secondsyou're going to get a 500 increase every year um and I have I have what I've worked up 2:57:452 hours, 57 minutes, 45 secondshere when I take a look at it forget it do whatever but then every teacher every year is looking forward to a 500 2:57:532 hours, 57 minutes, 53 secondsincrease which is uh it's a small amount for them but if we could add it instead 2:57:592 hours, 57 minutes, 59 secondsof 500 make it enough for everybody here I can send you one later no you had 2:58:102 hours, 58 minutes, 10 secondsenough for everybody but uh those those increases it gives them something forward to look to I mean if I 2:58:182 hours, 58 minutes, 18 secondscan make it 600 that's great now I mean just looking at our Hitman County scale just just grabbing something at random are you I mean we've 2:58:272 hours, 58 minutes, 27 secondsgot something that are a thousand year to year I mean if we can make it a thousand that's great but we already have something that are a thousand uh 2:58:342 hours, 58 minutes, 34 secondsthen we have some that are for example I'm just randomly looking at one bachelor's degree if you when you go you're 15 to year 16. 2:58:432 hours, 58 minutes, 43 secondsthat's 1900 bucks on the year that's right you're only targeting one area but what about the rest of it but then when you go from 2:58:502 hours, 58 minutes, 50 secondsyear 11 to year 12 it's 300 yeah so it it isn't even there's some big jumps and then there's some there's some little 2:58:582 hours, 58 minutes, 58 secondsjobs yeah and also by making it a 500 increase every year which this first year of implementing this it won't work 2:59:062 hours, 59 minutes, 6 secondsout because you've got some that are have high increase and some that are not see there's two in there that the uh the 2:59:142 hours, 59 minutes, 14 secondsscale the ones that are blue you'd have to have to make it where you pay them the higher amount the rest of 2:59:222 hours, 59 minutes, 22 secondsthem will show an increase from year to year next year you may get add another 100 or 200 whichever instead of a 2:59:302 hours, 59 minutes, 30 secondspercentage because a percentage doesn't treat all of your workers equal and the bachelor's degree program now I 2:59:392 hours, 59 minutes, 39 secondsdid the um the Master's Degree a little bit different and I left the others uh left the others for y'all to make a 2:59:472 hours, 59 minutes, 47 secondsdecision or whatever but there's not that many that's why I would like to know how many is in each category so we can see 2:59:552 hours, 59 minutes, 55 secondsyeah but some of these like your your battery the red numbers are your proposed new right that's the written which is like bachelor's Year One 3:00:043 hours, 4 secondsis it currently 42-3 and you're saying it should be 42 too that's less if I'm reading that right uh now from 3:00:143 hours, 14 secondsBachelor zero is 41.7 that's a hundred dollar increase but as you go down there it actually moves back and forth 3:00:223 hours, 22 secondswhich will be a 500 increase Gap from year to year now if we can make that and make it uh add 100 to each one of those 3:00:313 hours, 31 secondsthat's great if that regardless of the the uh well the numbers here you're saying 3:00:403 hours, 40 secondsinstead of doing percentages do a a set dollar amount well for at least uh 3:00:473 hours, 47 secondsuntil we can make that Gap even each year so it's not the same every year if if 3:00:533 hours, 53 secondsI'm uh I may get uh a hundred dollars one year right now the way it is and then next year I get 500. it's it's no 3:01:033 hours, 1 minute, 3 secondsequal treatment there in the uh the actual most of the workers that are out there teaching so if we so 3:01:113 hours, 1 minute, 11 secondsit's around if we did you don't have totals at the bottom but if we did the change from the black numbers to the red numbers on this sheet that you made right What's 3:01:203 hours, 1 minute, 20 secondsthe total increase I don't know because I don't know how many fit in each category I see yeah I have to and and he could 3:01:293 hours, 1 minute, 29 secondspunch the numbers in it yeah I see because you don't have to I don't have that head count Rachel I don't have that number but I will just say and I don't disagree 3:01:383 hours, 1 minute, 38 secondswith you on that because we've talked about what's changing those things in there but keep in mind that we've never 3:01:453 hours, 1 minute, 45 secondshad the same pay scale from year to year we have always done an increase in our 3:01:533 hours, 1 minute, 53 secondsteachers there may have been a few now I'm not talking I know there was back when I was a teacher there was a period matter of fact there was one paid line 3:02:023 hours, 2 minutes, 2 seconds50 increase actually someone went down seven dollars now there was only one person in it but if they went down seven 3:02:103 hours, 2 minutes, 10 secondsdollars from what they made prior year now I'm not saying that we hadn't had probably some that were at five but I also know what what teachers will do and 3:02:193 hours, 2 minutes, 19 secondsI'm not gonna name relations but anyhow they will look at the pay scale that comes with the 3:02:263 hours, 2 minutes, 26 secondscontract and they'll say I'm just making 200 more than I was making last year what they're not doing 3:02:343 hours, 2 minutes, 34 secondsis comparing the pay scale from last year and they're actually making twelve hundred dollars more fifteen yeah I was about to say so even these ones it 3:02:413 hours, 2 minutes, 41 secondslooked like it's just 300 on the pay scale they don't count the 3:02:463 hours, 2 minutes, 46 seconds[Music] 3:02:493 hours, 2 minutes, 49 secondsand if you guys remember at the work session that we had in January I gave you a sheet that showed you our increases since 2016. 3:03:003 hours, 3 minutesand that total increase and that average total increase on our pay scales if I remember I was trying to find it in there again 3:03:073 hours, 3 minutes, 7 secondsum I think the minimum was like 19 and that was up on our top top some of our 3:03:153 hours, 3 minutes, 15 secondstopper ends but I think the average is somewhere around 22 or 23 percent 3:03:233 hours, 3 minutes, 23 secondsum of an increase that someone would see in those skills I don't disagree with you because we have talked about that 3:03:313 hours, 3 minutes, 31 secondslooking at that because there will be times when you can't do an increase this skill and and that percentage like they said 3:03:393 hours, 3 minutes, 39 secondssometimes they go down sometimes the percentage you a percentage of what you were making last year and then all of a 3:03:473 hours, 3 minutes, 47 secondssudden you didn't make that much for next year if you make it equal and you sell it as not a percentage but as a 3:03:553 hours, 3 minutes, 55 seconds500 step and I'd like to make it six but you know well it might so the point is 3:04:013 hours, 4 minutes, 1 secondit might be because it might be one more step it's this step plus the percent increase I'll find that spreadsheet for 3:04:093 hours, 4 minutes, 9 secondsyou all again and I mean they're sending it back out to you just for you to to look at it there is a whole sequence here that goes yeah 3:04:163 hours, 4 minutes, 16 seconds50 000 9 51 000 51 200 5130 they're like a hundred bucks apart now 3:04:253 hours, 4 minutes, 25 secondsbut what you will see some of the systems doing like if you look at Murray County they cap at 25 years 3:04:333 hours, 4 minutes, 33 secondsum Lewis County Bay cap at 20 years 3:04:393 hours, 4 minutes, 39 secondsyeah we don't we keep increasing some of them will do the first five years at the same thing yeah same thing it would be 3:04:473 hours, 4 minutes, 47 secondsgood to know what how many people or whatever 3:04:553 hours, 4 minutes, 55 secondswhen we designed this place these big jumps jumps 10 and 11 15 and 16. we're 3:05:053 hours, 5 minutes, 5 secondsstrategically put there because it was when we took what in actuality employees got when it 3:05:143 hours, 5 minutes, 14 secondswas all in one year over the span of that three years instead of it being a little here a little here a little here it was better for the employee to get it 3:05:233 hours, 5 minutes, 23 secondson well it makes sense like I don't know most jobs and that's what we'd like you get like in five years like just like 3:05:303 hours, 5 minutes, 30 secondswith vacation you get so much at five years when you get to ten years you get that much more you know it's like big 15 years 20 years we're getting a lot of 3:05:393 hours, 5 minutes, 39 secondsyoung teachers we get a lot of probably a bigger turnovers than some places but if they can look at the average teacher out there if they 3:05:483 hours, 5 minutes, 48 secondscan look at that oh I get 500 next year that looks good to me then that looks like that they're going to make 100 next 3:05:553 hours, 5 minutes, 55 secondsyear that don't look good so just a steady increase but but okay so let me counter that in that 3:06:043 hours, 6 minutes, 4 secondswhich which looks better to somebody psychologically I'm gonna get 500 every year or if I stay 30 years that third 3:06:133 hours, 6 minutes, 13 secondsyear I'm going to get 1500 all at once which looks better psychologically to people I think the 1500 ones 3:06:203 hours, 6 minutes, 20 secondspsychologically though see with all of the problems that that you're having with the valuations with scores uh that 3:06:293 hours, 6 minutes, 29 secondsthere's their their evaluations can fluctuate all of a sudden their tenure then they're not tenured I think that 3:06:363 hours, 6 minutes, 36 secondsthe steady increase than not 10 years I mean if they're continued they're not 3:06:453 hours, 6 minutes, 45 secondsthey're not it can be tenured one year and not tenured the next I mean is that correct right they no uh that once there is a junior they're always tender unless 3:06:533 hours, 6 minutes, 53 secondsthey the law says they have two years of below they can lose 10 years right but we have not had that situation so have 3:07:013 hours, 7 minutes, 1 secondnot we have not but this does not affect their years of experience and the pay scale there are some things 3:07:093 hours, 7 minutes, 9 secondssome places that are looking at uh adapting those input pay skills I mean 3:07:163 hours, 7 minutes, 16 secondsso we kind of have but I can just tell you like this like there are a couple of Keepers when he graduated a couple of 3:07:253 hours, 7 minutes, 25 secondshis friends were teachers and you know when I got out of school I can tell you what they look it's it's 3:07:323 hours, 7 minutes, 32 secondsstarting I mean some of his starting salary I mean you know he's got two good friends that started out in Rutherford County because they're making 3:07:403 hours, 7 minutes, 40 secondsyou know so I think it's just like anywhere else if you want to keep good employees you got to pay them 3:07:483 hours, 7 minutes, 48 secondsum and so I'm gonna think you need to keep in mind too um longevity 3:07:553 hours, 7 minutes, 55 secondsthere's a good chance you're going to have to get to 50 000. by 26 27. 3:08:033 hours, 8 minutes, 3 secondsso yeah you need to be thinking about we're going to have to increase incrementally enough to where your 3:08:103 hours, 8 minutes, 10 secondsbachelor's zero is going to be 50. and 26 27. 3:08:163 hours, 8 minutes, 16 secondsand that's significant um 3:08:203 hours, 8 minutes, 20 seconds[Music] 3:08:233 hours, 8 minutes, 23 secondsthree more years so if you think about where we are yeah what makes you what what because 3:08:303 hours, 8 minutes, 30 secondshe said the minimum pay yes now he's supposed to help with the state the legend he's going to 3:08:373 hours, 8 minutes, 37 secondsfund that so keep in mind this too that it raises would have to go into Tifa 3:08:453 hours, 8 minutes, 45 secondsso that's coming from somewhere and if it goes in to teach it into the base that affects your local 3:08:533 hours, 8 minutes, 53 secondsmaintenance of effort and how much they have to pay so just know that that's you 3:09:003 hours, 9 minutesyou got to get from 41 6 or at least have a plan from 41 6 to 50 which is 3:09:073 hours, 9 minutes, 7 secondssignificant easier for him to say than do you it's significant and so I thought there was State funding tied to that number 3:09:153 hours, 9 minutes, 15 secondsthough there is but but they're if their state funding goes up our local maintenance of effort might go up with 3:09:223 hours, 9 minutes, 22 secondsit okay and that's the thing this pizza is in a few years we're going to be more 3:09:293 hours, 9 minutes, 29 secondsdependent on maintenance of effort yeah that's that's the thing with this we've got just to sell because it's going to 3:09:363 hours, 9 minutes, 36 secondshappen you know the recommended recommend that if you're going to hit 3:09:433 hours, 9 minutes, 43 secondsplan to hit fund balance I think you hit it off Capital that way you're not running and 3:09:523 hours, 9 minutes, 52 secondsoperating a school system from your savings bottom reoccurring that's correct because you're recurring that money and put it in if you're taking if 3:10:013 hours, 10 minutes, 1 secondyou have two million dollars you want to spend on capital projects they're one-time expenses take it out of your 3:10:083 hours, 10 minutes, 8 secondssavings account instead of paying somebody's salary out of your savings account 3:10:143 hours, 10 minutes, 14 secondsokay so whether it's salary or capex it doesn't matter it's just in the total I 3:10:213 hours, 10 minutes, 21 secondsmean why does it matter because if the total is 30 million or whatever it is because I mean because those are 3:10:293 hours, 10 minutes, 29 secondsone-time expenses reoccurring you're going to keep dead you can always adjust though we'll always have the power to adjust one time expect 3:10:363 hours, 10 minutes, 36 secondsbut you won't have the power to just salary scales to the negative reoccurring you do you have the power too but right no but but well that's 3:10:463 hours, 10 minutes, 46 secondsjust kind of productive what we've been talking about yeah that that I disagree wrong no we we 3:10:533 hours, 10 minutes, 53 secondsneed to pay the people more I agree 3:11:013 hours, 11 minutes, 1 second[Music] 3:11:083 hours, 11 minutes, 8 secondsno no she's just saying hey hey whatever you have your whatever you want to say exactly 3:11:163 hours, 11 minutes, 16 secondsmake it in your plan to take that from your phone balance and not your recurring calls I mean do you do you have to put that in your plan what you're going to spend from fund balance 3:11:253 hours, 11 minutes, 25 secondsyes every year we have to okay so you do have to identify what comes out of unbalance oh no no when we do our budget 3:11:333 hours, 11 minutes, 33 secondsthey they'll say real and we usually tell them realistically this is where we think we'll hit or not hit and we've 3:11:413 hours, 11 minutes, 41 secondsalways been honest with them uh without Esser we would have hit fund balance you would hit that 548 thousand dollars but we wouldn't have budgeted a bunch of 3:11:503 hours, 11 minutes, 50 secondsstuff with we didn't know we had an Esser so the truth is we've never hit fund balance ever since I've been except for repairs and stuff 3:11:583 hours, 11 minutes, 58 secondsof course we we would have hit fund balance if we didn't have essers but we budgeted knowing that we had answered so 3:12:063 hours, 12 minutes, 6 secondsof course if we budgeted knowing we had Esther and then it magically disappeared with it unbalanced well we wouldn't have said exactly yeah but but you know you 3:12:153 hours, 12 minutes, 15 secondsalso got to look at this on Esser we have been able to what what Esser has 3:12:223 hours, 12 minutes, 22 secondsallowed us to do versus our other Federal programs is you could supplement and you could supplant 3:12:313 hours, 12 minutes, 31 secondsyou can't do that with once it's gone meaning we paid for textbooks we're required to 3:12:383 hours, 12 minutes, 38 secondspay for textbooks out of 141 but Esser said hey you don't have to pay for textbooks out at 141 you can spend our 3:12:473 hours, 12 minutes, 47 secondsmoney on it right now that will become a half a million dollar reoccurring expense every two years and that's at a 3:12:563 hours, 12 minutes, 56 secondsminimum is it says I'm kicking the can down the road it's what they've allowed us we have 3:13:023 hours, 13 minutes, 2 secondsbeen budgeting dollars in 141 not 500 000 for textbooks but a 3:13:103 hours, 13 minutes, 10 secondshundred and seventy five thousand each year without spending it so when we do have to spend it 3:13:183 hours, 13 minutes, 18 secondsin two years it's there in 2017. that becomes a 500 000 expense that we have 3:13:273 hours, 13 minutes, 27 secondsto deal with every two years I don't I don't know I guess I don't like the idea of using fund balance in a 3:13:343 hours, 13 minutes, 34 secondssecond scale because I wonder what you just described I would love to see the numbers of what the my figures numbers what is the true 3:13:433 hours, 13 minutes, 43 secondspercentage how we how are we we're comparing our salaries and all this other stuff these other counties let's compare our percentage of fund balances 3:13:523 hours, 13 minutes, 52 secondssee where we are and go from there and I agree with you I think I think I think 3:13:583 hours, 13 minutes, 58 secondswe could we can't dip into it but how much is the is the question you know you don't want to be Reckless and I know you're not saying that but I mean I'd 3:14:073 hours, 14 minutes, 7 secondslove to stay or with uh we have never did in the fun town since I built football ever no we've added to fund 3:14:153 hours, 14 minutes, 15 secondsbalance but I do I will say though we would we would had it hadn't been for coded 3:14:233 hours, 14 minutes, 23 secondsand so you could really say we probably would have been we would have it hadn't been for coveted if it hadn't been for 3:14:303 hours, 14 minutes, 30 secondsthe change in the law on sales tax we never lost a lot of money yeah and I 3:14:373 hours, 14 minutes, 37 secondsagree with you I do say we should use it for I ran weave but I'm still when we're sitting here next year we had better heads 3:14:453 hours, 14 minutes, 45 secondsbut 3:14:473 hours, 14 minutes, 47 seconds[Music] 3:14:503 hours, 14 minutes, 50 secondsit I think we do need to just instead of judgment or spitting something about us 3:14:593 hours, 14 minutes, 59 secondsright a dictionary we need to dip in a little bit to show that right yeah 3:15:083 hours, 15 minutes, 8 secondsand every year it's been brought up here the 3:15:143 hours, 15 minutes, 14 secondsCounty's fund balance if it's a higher percentage than the school system this number is bigger because our 3:15:233 hours, 15 minutes, 23 secondsoperating budget is bigger they're going to scrutinize it no matter what but we go 3:15:413 hours, 15 minutes, 41 secondsI don't agree with that oh I was there when we budgeted we talked about it we talked about that budget time we knew we had answered I mean it was unknown so 3:15:493 hours, 15 minutes, 49 secondsthere were things that we would have put in budget but we had we don't have to put this in budget because we know we can pay for that oh yeah well there was some but I wouldn't hear it but I could 3:15:573 hours, 15 minutes, 57 secondsjust see you as much as that we would not have seen this that you know something breaks down it's like the 548 3:16:053 hours, 16 minutes, 5 seconds000 right they expect them out of the answer we wouldn't have had that wouldn't have been in the budget what we were able to do is work on our longer 3:16:123 hours, 16 minutes, 12 secondsterm facility plan a bunch of HVAC units that weren't broken but we wouldn't have bought new ones well but we were able to work it 3:16:223 hours, 16 minutes, 22 secondswas in our long-term facility land we worked off it and we were able to still do buses and everything that we needed to 3:16:303 hours, 16 minutes, 30 secondsdo out of capital because that facility plan was able to be addressed through dresser yeah so you could do stuff quicker than 3:16:403 hours, 16 minutes, 40 secondsnormal and without having to ask the county for money right in defense of our maintenance department and all that when 3:16:473 hours, 16 minutes, 47 secondsyou wait for things to break then you got major problems because when I was in the Air Force we didn't wait 3:16:553 hours, 16 minutes, 55 secondsfor the airplanes to break we scheduled 3:17:033 hours, 17 minutes, 3 secondsbecause we're we're air conditioning for kids and keeping equipment running you don't want it all to come and all this 3:17:113 hours, 17 minutes, 11 secondsis the same age and it all goes to foot at the same time so you spread it out and that's what he's trying to do and that's going to spread it out I'm not 3:17:203 hours, 17 minutes, 20 secondssaying it's wrong but that's kind of I won't have the event school was very old and I think it's just been put on them 3:17:293 hours, 17 minutes, 29 secondsthere's a little more to it than the sewer than that what they did to do the assessment on the server yeah then you found you had a problem yeah 3:17:373 hours, 17 minutes, 37 secondsand we had now we have to fix it right that sewer problem led to the gym tour pro right that's what I'm saying it's just old and it's been yeah well the 3:17:463 hours, 17 minutes, 46 secondssewered problems started because they're old steel pipes in there the old cast Arnolds and when they clogged up in the 3:17:543 hours, 17 minutes, 54 secondsbathrooms and all that they took acid import down because that was the best way to get them to clear out the only problem with it corn has it into them it 3:18:033 hours, 18 minutes, 3 secondseats the pipes up too not like PVC BBC will not be eaten up and but and it what it is is now all of 3:18:123 hours, 18 minutes, 12 secondsa sudden you've got uh a clay hole running the sewer down into the water down it and you need some 3:18:203 hours, 18 minutes, 20 secondslight yeah and it's over time it's become a problem all right so what what salary increases in this proposal what 3:18:283 hours, 18 minutes, 28 secondswas in that last time I think it was a little bit it was four percent but it actually averaged out to five percent uh 3:18:373 hours, 18 minutes, 37 secondsand this is in the paint that that is last year okay but five yeah 3:18:473 hours, 18 minutes, 47 secondsbut I did give you a scenario with six percent and with eight percent um 3:18:553 hours, 18 minutes, 55 secondswhat I really want to know and the reason looking at these comparisons was you guys asked to look at those comparisons and we have looked at the 3:19:033 hours, 19 minutes, 3 secondsbuses I will tell you in some of the comparison on the buses hourly wise we're right there where where it is is 3:19:113 hours, 19 minutes, 11 secondson the benefit side um one thing I'm still working on she uh in this neighbor requested 3:19:193 hours, 19 minutes, 19 secondsand looking at the insurance I think you requested looking at the insurance overdid also on the Food Service side and on 3:19:283 hours, 19 minutes, 28 secondsthe bus side there are some things tied to the Affordable Care Act that we would have to look into in relationship to 3:19:353 hours, 19 minutes, 35 secondsthat so there might be different ways to go about handling that to where it impacts uh 3:19:433 hours, 19 minutes, 43 secondseveryone that would be in those positions instead of just those who would take the insurance um 3:19:513 hours, 19 minutes, 51 secondsand how how that will get from a financial standpoint um 3:20:083 hours, 20 minutes, 8 secondsthat given us a 40 page thing with 50 000 numbers on it 3:20:153 hours, 20 minutes, 15 secondsis kind of a waste detector what what the Board needs is to know 3:20:223 hours, 20 minutes, 22 secondschange from last budget so if you have somewhere here an explanation of last 3:20:293 hours, 20 minutes, 29 secondsyear's budget to this year's proposed budget this is what's different that's what we want to know that's what I want to know I want to know what's different 3:20:373 hours, 20 minutes, 37 secondswhat's what we're proposing is different and I think because I can't study 40. 3:20:433 hours, 20 minutes, 43 secondsyou're going to get anywhere out of it I mean I know it makes sense to you but we need something that's down and dirty that says okay what we're proposing to 3:20:523 hours, 20 minutes, 52 secondschange from last year's budget or these things so here in every single one of these line items that have a significant 3:21:003 hours, 21 minutesincrease there is a description on the Sheep and don't don't take this wrong but you 3:21:073 hours, 21 minutes, 7 secondsare responsible for every line item on here not me 3:21:163 hours, 21 minutes, 16 secondsfor every line and descriptions uh can you send us the spreadsheet that 3:21:233 hours, 21 minutes, 23 secondsalso that's got the notes on it but while you're doing that you know what I'm talking about here um 3:21:323 hours, 21 minutes, 32 secondswhat it is so are you talking about like can you talk about this right now you know what down here so like if you go over if you go over to special ed 3:21:393 hours, 21 minutes, 39 secondsprogram which is Page four yeah just give us an example you're going you're going to see your budgeted Personnel you're going to 3:21:483 hours, 21 minutes, 48 secondssee now what I did take off is because I do want you guys to see the prior years when we first start looking at this on this one so what you had on the other 3:21:563 hours, 21 minutes, 56 secondsone was year 819 through the current budget all you have to compare here is 3:22:043 hours, 22 minutes, 4 secondsFY 22 what we did during that time in comparison to where we're at on the 3:22:113 hours, 22 minutes, 11 secondsbudget for FY 23 year-to-date don't have a comfortable 3:22:183 hours, 22 minutes, 18 secondsnumber of what our year in projection will be yet but I hope to have that by the time we do approved Budget on May 3:22:273 hours, 22 minutes, 27 seconds1st and then you have your projections and why they are in there so the majority of your increase is going to 3:22:373 hours, 22 minutes, 37 secondscome from Personnel right because about 70 percent of your budget is Personnel related right so the majority of your 3:22:453 hours, 22 minutes, 45 secondsincreases want to come from Personnel but if you look at the narratives on 3:22:523 hours, 22 minutes, 52 secondsspecial education programs um it shows you which evidently I can't 3:23:003 hours, 23 minutestype very well because it got homeboed in there I'll correct that next time 3:23:083 hours, 23 minutes, 8 secondsyeah and believe it or not I used to be a keyboard teacher too so and I could type very well but uh 3:23:193 hours, 23 minutes, 19 secondsbut it shows you like he has a increase request in 3:23:253 hours, 23 minutes, 25 secondsum other contracted Services um an increase request in other supplies and materials and I know that those are 3:23:333 hours, 23 minutes, 33 secondssmall like the other supplies and materials but it's a new expense you're always on your budget unless it's 3:23:423 hours, 23 minutes, 42 secondson the capital side always the majority of your increase is going to be in your personnel 3:23:493 hours, 23 minutes, 49 secondsum just because that's we're sitting at roughly a 70 number on Personnel 3:23:583 hours, 23 minutes, 58 secondsum and so I I I do understand my job is summarized for you but explain to me how 3:24:053 hours, 24 minutes, 5 secondsto interpret page for you so I'm on page four and you've got this chart at the bottom is this the explanation that is 3:24:123 hours, 24 minutes, 12 secondsshowing you okay so this was saying if I'm looking at this now that I've studied this particular page does this 3:24:203 hours, 24 minutes, 20 secondsmean that the only budgeted change is one more head count on teacher is that what this is showing you're 3:24:293 hours, 24 minutes, 29 secondsseeing a no it does show a headcount change from 34 to 30 but you're also looking up at that number that says the 3:24:373 hours, 24 minutes, 37 secondsincrease up at the top of for line 71 200 116 of a budget increase of one 3:24:443 hours, 24 minutes, 44 secondshundred and eighty eight thousand dollars just for that line item because the prices because of the raises that are in there yeah okay and all right so 3:24:533 hours, 24 minutes, 53 secondsso this is 3:24:573 hours, 24 minutes, 57 seconds[Laughter] 3:25:043 hours, 25 minutes, 4 secondsand it's not there so to take this as an example 3:25:113 hours, 25 minutes, 11 secondsa summary that would say um maybe in this category 3:25:173 hours, 25 minutes, 17 secondsthe head count increased by one the salary increased by 3:25:243 hours, 25 minutes, 24 seconds188 000 due to races period is that and those two sentences 3:25:323 hours, 25 minutes, 32 secondswould be a high level explanation of every day on this page I think is that right looking for a high level explanation is 3:25:403 hours, 25 minutes, 40 secondsthat that accurate um yeah but I think you're responsible for the detail yeah of course we're responsible for the detail of course responsible for detail 3:25:483 hours, 25 minutes, 48 secondsbut let's be honest if you think every board member is going to read through and study and do the math on 3:25:573 hours, 25 minutes, 57 secondsevery one of these lines I wouldn't I wouldn't expect you at all but I would expect you to look at the 3:26:043 hours, 26 minutes, 4 secondsdetail I know but absolutely and sure and I probably will I but I want a summary I think we've given you summaries before 3:26:133 hours, 26 minutes, 13 secondsand we will give you a summary yeah so that's what I wanted this other years and I think you've 3:26:213 hours, 26 minutes, 21 secondsgiven us summaries like this before I have so do you have you prepared that kind of summary for this budget uh I have not finalized it yet because there 3:26:293 hours, 26 minutes, 29 secondsare still things that you guys are requesting that we look at it to me this is a summary because I 3:26:373 hours, 26 minutes, 37 secondshave seen a full Budget on Excel and this is nowhere close to it don't you have Excel but each individual line 3:26:453 hours, 26 minutes, 45 secondsitems is this the whole this is Excel by each individual line item it's like the whole line of pages yes okay every 3:26:553 hours, 26 minutes, 55 secondssingle line item 3:26:573 hours, 26 minutes, 57 seconds[Music] 3:27:103 hours, 27 minutes, 10 seconds[Music] 3:27:203 hours, 27 minutes, 20 secondsso so for next time can you have a 3:27:273 hours, 27 minutes, 27 secondsa summary that boils this down into 3:27:353 hours, 27 minutes, 35 secondsI mean 3:27:373 hours, 27 minutes, 37 seconds[Music] 3:27:383 hours, 27 minutes, 38 secondsokay you want this to reduce the whole thing well no no I I think this is good in addition it looks like there to be a 3:27:453 hours, 27 minutes, 45 secondssummary and then you could go well okay I want to know more about that and then you can go to that page and look at the details 3:27:523 hours, 27 minutes, 52 secondsbut well I I think we need something just it for if you send me the Excel can I 3:28:023 hours, 28 minutes, 2 secondsnot go in there and do a search and if I want to find any particular thing it'll tell me 3:28:143 hours, 28 minutes, 14 seconds[Music] 3:28:283 hours, 28 minutes, 28 secondsoh okay okay for this every year 3:28:343 hours, 28 minutes, 34 secondsand it just I'm not saying I don't want the detail I want detail too but a cover sheet that's just a couple pages that is 3:28:433 hours, 28 minutes, 43 secondsthe high level overview of this is what this is what's changing and you know 3:28:503 hours, 28 minutes, 50 secondssalary increases Insurance increases head count increases and different categories and stuff you do the Excel 3:28:593 hours, 28 minutes, 59 secondsyou can go click and you can make a note and that what these notes are on here or 3:29:063 hours, 29 minutes, 6 secondsno those those are separate because and the reason I do those down at the bottom from a summer standpoint is is one so we 3:29:153 hours, 29 minutes, 15 secondscan look at them and see them the problem with Excel sometimes you have to convert it into 3:29:223 hours, 29 minutes, 22 secondsGoogle Sheets in those notes convert different and so that's not always I do not I do 3:29:313 hours, 29 minutes, 31 secondsnot use no tabs on here um I just do the notes down because they don't transfer well yeah okay 3:29:403 hours, 29 minutes, 40 secondsbut I can if that's something you guys would like to see okay those are you talking about notes within the settings 3:29:473 hours, 29 minutes, 47 secondsexhale has a foot because what it will do is it will print those notes off at the end oh it will yeah so if that's 3:29:553 hours, 29 minutes, 55 secondssomething you guys want I can put notes to the cells I I've said what I want I want a summary I think this report's 3:30:023 hours, 30 minutes, 2 secondsgreat and it's I think each page could could have a line or two on the summary 3:30:103 hours, 30 minutes, 10 secondsyou know what I mean and I think like let's just let's just look at our page four 3:30:183 hours, 30 minutes, 18 secondsspecial education program 71 200. I think you could describe what's changing 3:30:243 hours, 30 minutes, 24 secondson last year to this year and probably a statement or two 3:30:323 hours, 30 minutes, 32 secondsI think maybe you could Mike you can confirm that or not you can describe what's changing there's some insurance 3:30:393 hours, 30 minutes, 39 secondschanges there's some salary changes you give the dollar amounts of those and then there's a headcount change 3:30:473 hours, 30 minutes, 47 secondsis that accurate probably so looking at this yes so so I'm thinking and and have this page I'm 3:30:553 hours, 30 minutes, 55 secondsnot saying I don't have it so then if we see those summaries and be like I'm interested in this certain thing I can go to page four look but a a one page or 3:31:043 hours, 31 minutes, 4 secondsso summary that just lists those key changes from previous to to current proposal it's okay but like I can look 3:31:103 hours, 31 minutes, 10 secondshere and go oh it's 71. other supplies and you go look down here the materials include I mean so it kind of do you do 3:31:183 hours, 31 minutes, 18 secondsthat but I'm gonna get it I'll go right ahead you're welcome to do that I encourage 3:31:253 hours, 31 minutes, 25 secondsthis year 3:31:273 hours, 31 minutes, 27 seconds[Music] 3:31:293 hours, 31 minutes, 29 secondsyou can make one copy just for me if I'm the only one no I'm gonna do it 3:31:373 hours, 31 minutes, 37 secondsyou'll have 10 copies 3:31:393 hours, 31 minutes, 39 seconds[Music] 3:31:393 hours, 31 minutes, 39 seconds[Laughter] 3:31:453 hours, 31 minutes, 45 secondsI did um go in and put the head count on each sheet instead of on that big spreadsheet that big spreadsheet silver here I 3:31:533 hours, 31 minutes, 53 secondsdidn't um print it off again for this but I did put the head count on each suit down 3:32:013 hours, 32 minutes, 1 secondthere in some and try to give you for for the new 3:32:113 hours, 32 minutes, 11 secondsboard members try to give you a description of what that program is so you'll see that narrative right above it 3:32:203 hours, 32 minutes, 20 secondsthat some of that is the official narrative from the state but it kind of tells you 3:32:263 hours, 32 minutes, 26 secondswhat those programs cover and stuff what I do one from you all 3:32:343 hours, 32 minutes, 34 secondsum and that's one of the reasons printed these off and we so a couple 3:32:413 hours, 32 minutes, 41 secondsthings that we're doing I am looking at the impact it we did a base of 15 for that that was our lowest hourly pay for 3:32:503 hours, 32 minutes, 50 secondsanyone and looking at the skills from that how that would impact our budget both of 3:32:583 hours, 32 minutes, 58 secondsthem on 43 and 141 I don't have that done yet but I will have that done before our meeting next week um 3:33:053 hours, 33 minutes, 5 secondsif you have also the insurance side I said that earlier if you have by looking 3:33:133 hours, 33 minutes, 13 secondsat these sheets if you have an idea of the direction that you want us to go on the salary you gave the one thing if you 3:33:203 hours, 33 minutes, 20 secondswant that um bigger spread will be able to see that has bigger spread and get a scenario on that the only thing is if 3:33:313 hours, 33 minutes, 31 secondsa four percent if I if they have hundred dollars on each one of them make it another hundred instead of the five difference on the spread you 3:33:393 hours, 33 minutes, 39 secondsknow uh but when you come up with the title with everybody there I guess you can figure it better but without well you're talking about how many there is 3:33:473 hours, 33 minutes, 47 secondsin each category I can't tell and I'll get I'll give you the categories I'll get that to you this week I'm going to have that and we're talking about 3:33:553 hours, 33 minutes, 55 secondsso you're talking about ancillary like cafeteria or is that what you're talking about well that that was mentioned in a board meeting right and so 3:34:043 hours, 34 minutes, 4 secondsyou're right it may not be realistic right but it is where we're going to be at in yeah 3:34:123 hours, 34 minutes, 12 secondsyeah yes because like custody all those well that custodials contracted labor though yes 3:34:193 hours, 34 minutes, 19 secondscontract Food Service okay of course they're on salary but it would impact well but they're they're on 3:34:263 hours, 34 minutes, 26 secondssalary but they're still our animals so we we would calculate those out I mean we have an hourly rate that's based off 3:34:343 hours, 34 minutes, 34 secondsof theirs and we would go back and make sure that I'd be interested in seeing like that and because eventually you probably have to get 3:34:423 hours, 34 minutes, 42 secondsthere and yeah and that is stuff that we always look at 3:34:503 hours, 34 minutes, 50 secondsright and we do look at Market maybe not as much as we should and the 3:34:583 hours, 34 minutes, 58 secondsmarket has changed so much in the last two years that it's hard for us to keep up with it 3:35:063 hours, 35 minutes, 6 secondsbecause not us mentally keep up with us us financially to keep up with absolutely um 3:35:143 hours, 35 minutes, 14 secondsbut in our thing it is things that that we need to address um 3:35:213 hours, 35 minutes, 21 secondsyeah so if you can look at those sheets and if you have different ideas of what you want from a salary standpoint because a 3:35:303 hours, 35 minutes, 30 secondsgood portion of ourselves well I mean I will give you what I think right 3:35:383 hours, 35 minutes, 38 secondsas Vance my mind runs down a certain way and so 3:35:453 hours, 35 minutes, 45 secondsuh it's like when I teach math there's there's different routes to get to the same place 3:35:533 hours, 35 minutes, 53 secondsand you know there's five different ways yeah and and so none of them drive or 3:36:013 hours, 36 minutes, 1 secondwrong but as long as you get to the right we all we all look one way in certain ways and so we do 3:36:103 hours, 36 minutes, 10 secondswe cherish your feedback so we go we got to come up with something on this this is the best well I I will I will 3:36:203 hours, 36 minutes, 20 secondsput out a scenario with what I think and let you know but I will also put out what you guys give me and say 3:36:293 hours, 36 minutes, 29 secondslike you're gonna give us when we did the Williamson County when we did the Williamson County one 3:36:383 hours, 36 minutes, 38 secondswe tried to do was make sure we were at 90 or 85 something like that of what 3:36:483 hours, 36 minutes, 48 secondslens accounting was we knew we couldn't financially necessarily get there but we knew we could get to 85 or 90 we looked 3:36:573 hours, 36 minutes, 57 secondsat what we keep teachers from going and that is Market our Market is not the 3:37:043 hours, 37 minutes, 4 secondssame as Murray County's Market if you live in Murray County you're paying 200 000 more for a home right than you're 3:37:113 hours, 37 minutes, 11 secondspaying in Hickman and you're paying 30 cents more per gas than what you're paying and hit the guy 3:37:183 hours, 37 minutes, 18 secondsdepending on what part of Murray County you live in so Market has more than just comparing 3:37:253 hours, 37 minutes, 25 secondspay but we do look at that every single one of us at work in Hickman County whatever job we work at Hickman County 3:37:333 hours, 37 minutes, 33 secondswe take a hit but it's a hit we choose to take there's like teachers driving from 3:37:403 hours, 37 minutes, 40 secondsDickson County instead of looking for teaching over there that are driving all the way over to America of course they made it easier when they 3:37:483 hours, 37 minutes, 48 secondspick suit Highway 7 but your proposed budget had four percent increase in that yeah it was basically and I'll go back and double check and make sure but it 3:37:563 hours, 37 minutes, 56 secondswas basically that four percent was a four percent death which averaged out to a little over five percent 3:38:213 hours, 38 minutes, 21 secondsdo I have a total no it's more than 10 percent though well so 3:38:283 hours, 38 minutes, 28 secondswhat I was going to suggest is why don't you why don't you have a couple of options I think the board makes good decisions 3:38:363 hours, 38 minutes, 36 secondson budgets when we have a few discrete options to look at and all right let's have like four percent and six percent and eight 3:38:443 hours, 38 minutes, 44 secondspercent or something like that when we originally started before we got our pizza allocation I had 3:38:523 hours, 38 minutes, 52 secondsthoughts of Mike I wanted to see what eight percent looked like when we saw what we weren't getting antisa 3:39:003 hours, 39 minutesum we started we're starting before yeah and I did give you the four and the six and the eight percent at the last 3:39:073 hours, 39 minutes, 7 secondsmeeting it wasn't written down but I verbally told you the amount and I can't remember off top of my head but I didn't 3:39:143 hours, 39 minutes, 14 secondstell you the amount that it hit just on the license site the four percent before 3:39:213 hours, 39 minutes, 21 secondstaking into account um payroll taxes was a little bit over 3:39:283 hours, 39 minutes, 28 secondsseven hundred thousand dollars that six percent was about a little over one million and the eight 3:39:373 hours, 39 minutes, 37 secondspercent was about 1.3 and that's before looking at payroll taxes but that was the main point too well get us the numbers fully loaded though right all 3:39:463 hours, 39 minutes, 46 secondsthe numbers because we 3:40:043 hours, 40 minutes, 4 secondswe did get the I know everyone's going to go home uh and believe me no one more because I was in here at 4 30 this 3:40:123 hours, 40 minutes, 12 secondsmorning so just so you know yes sir um but we did get the fiscal numbers 3:40:213 hours, 40 minutes, 21 secondsback last week that allowed us to finally look at what the local estimate will be on your funding page 3:40:333 hours, 40 minutes, 33 secondsfirst page of budget if you go down uh 3:40:413 hours, 40 minutes, 41 secondsdown almost to the bottom of page one you'll see um line item four six five one zero uh 3:40:503 hours, 40 minutes, 50 secondsthe fun side the Tisa estimate is twenty three thousand eight hundred eighty six dollars or eight 886 3:40:593 hours, 40 minutes, 59 seconds000 23 million 886 562 dollars uh that decreased from the prior month 3:41:093 hours, 41 minutes, 9 secondss about fifty thousand dollars this is number of sperm oh you're saying no it's still only estimates 3:41:203 hours, 41 minutes, 20 secondswe're doing that we don't know because they're not 100 confident on their numbers that they're getting also 3:41:293 hours, 41 minutes, 29 secondsthey're still working the numbers out now but that you also have a sheet from last year of what it was at the end of the fiscal 3:41:373 hours, 41 minutes, 37 secondsyear the PC or the DC we got the original estimate but it 3:41:443 hours, 41 minutes, 44 secondsnever showed local it never showed what we would get from the state it just so it didn't have the um I don't think it 3:41:513 hours, 41 minutes, 51 secondshad the fiscal capacity numbers in there yeah 3:42:003 hours, 42 minutesyeah and then did that happen this is HTTP right okay so you're 3:42:083 hours, 42 minutes, 8 secondslooking at a difference about 800 but what you're also what you're also losing in there is this coordinated 3:42:173 hours, 42 minutes, 17 secondsyeah yeah safety Family Resource which is like 200 safe schools which is about two fifty thousands thousand numbers 3:42:243 hours, 42 minutes, 24 secondsdecreases and then you're the raises that we were outside of Pisa got to be sent 3:42:323 hours, 42 minutes, 32 secondsseparately I've now been told they're inside oh man so back that out yes 3:42:393 hours, 42 minutes, 39 secondseven even yeah there's in other words the legislature 3:42:493 hours, 42 minutes, 49 secondsright we just don't want to go down I was afraid it's going to go down it could still be done 3:42:573 hours, 42 minutes, 57 secondsthey've been talking in in the federal government area or I think it's Federal about taking back the Esser money that 3:43:063 hours, 43 minutes, 6 secondshasn't been spent early I don't know don't think they'll ever go anywhere but 3:43:133 hours, 43 minutes, 13 secondsthey've been discussing that you also have in your packet you had requested a ranked list 3:43:213 hours, 43 minutes, 21 secondsfor capitals um so Ron has made a proposal to us 3:43:303 hours, 43 minutes, 30 secondswith this with this handout that we even just kept facing pretty much the one-way describe it so that every step is even 3:43:373 hours, 43 minutes, 37 secondsrespect right in your case it was 500 but I guess the question pretty bored is do we 3:43:453 hours, 43 minutes, 45 secondswant is our direction for Mike I know where I'm on but what does 3:43:523 hours, 43 minutes, 52 secondseverybody think about evenly step into spec the steps and then I guess for Michelle what's the 3:44:003 hours, 44 minutespros and cons of doing or not doing but I mentioned hearing everybody else 3:44:083 hours, 44 minutes, 8 secondsright do we do we want to tell Mike table even steps out I'm not really sure right I mean I kind of don't see why not have been I don't know but 3:44:153 hours, 44 minutes, 15 secondsI'm interested in what everybody else thinks and we should give Mike some direction on what he should do with these salaries I didn't tell Mike any more than you did on what to do I just 3:44:243 hours, 44 minutes, 24 secondsrecommended to eat right and take a look at that and come back and tell them that's why I'm I'm saying let's let's 3:44:313 hours, 44 minutes, 31 secondssee what the rest of the board thinks about I think when we and I may be wrong it's been seven years I think when we 3:44:393 hours, 44 minutes, 39 secondsfirst started we did even out the steps that when you add a percentage 3:44:453 hours, 44 minutes, 45 secondsthey start they start getting because the percentage Yeah but I remember the discussions also 3:44:543 hours, 44 minutes, 54 secondsat the 18-year point of making it higher so that we could try to compete with us 3:45:013 hours, 45 minutes, 1 secondso when we reached the only problems with that the sudden the next year you may not be fitting that category because everybody 3:45:093 hours, 45 minutes, 9 secondsgets a year older than a dollar shorter you know and well and my concern 3:45:163 hours, 45 minutes, 16 secondsis that when we did that about we made we specifically and consciously made larger steps to certain points that was 3:45:243 hours, 45 minutes, 24 secondsa strategy that we decided to follow yeah and uh I kind of feel like we should follow 3:45:323 hours, 45 minutes, 32 secondsthrough that strategy I don't think we should bail out on that but I don't want to hear what everything I I agree and I think that's the 3:45:393 hours, 45 minutes, 39 secondsstrategy there is another thought yes I know so I know people that left that came back and I know people that did not 3:45:473 hours, 45 minutes, 47 secondsgo in relationship because they knew when they got to a certain year they were going to get acidification that's a part 3:45:543 hours, 45 minutes, 54 secondsI like to buy to run I mean uh this that you stay till you get to that point and 3:46:013 hours, 46 minutes, 1 secondit's it is a it's a retention thing so there is another thought but then I can see Ryan's Point too that you could put 3:46:083 hours, 46 minutes, 8 secondstwo arrays instead of it being a percent it being an amount 3:46:163 hours, 46 minutes, 16 secondsuh I believe Dixon County looks at it that way you're saying that's kind of ways don't do it as a percent that's correct they give an amount 3:46:233 hours, 46 minutes, 23 secondsto each step does everyone does every step get the same amount I don't know the answer for that because I call around and ask what do you what 3:46:323 hours, 46 minutes, 32 secondsdo you do for race what are you doing for red because I want to know that information and so there is a you know another way to approach 3:46:413 hours, 46 minutes, 41 secondsis you take the amount maybe you know you start with the amount you've been given the governor gave 125 million 3:46:483 hours, 46 minutes, 48 secondsthat's 129.68 a student take it times our number of students and then divide that 3:46:553 hours, 46 minutes, 55 secondsamount staff see what it is and start from there you know you can you can do a number you don't have to necessarily do a percent 3:47:043 hours, 47 minutes, 4 secondsI like that and and it's very clear to people yeah like at 10 years you get five thousand dollars or or every single 3:47:123 hours, 47 minutes, 12 secondsteacher is going to get four thousand dollars or whatever it is and we start our teachers out according 3:47:183 hours, 47 minutes, 18 secondsto the the state average uh the state the starting salary is 38 000 or something 3:47:263 hours, 47 minutes, 26 secondsevery year we're starting out uh at 41 41 600. you're going to have to work your way up to 50. it's just about three 3:47:353 hours, 47 minutes, 35 secondsyears so well you've kind of got to get it but we've always been competitive certainly now and for 3:47:433 hours, 47 minutes, 43 secondsfor a person coming out of school single you get full insurance benefit if you're 3:47:513 hours, 47 minutes, 51 secondsnot selling the moment names if you are selling mom and dads you get 3 900 that's another thing you guys might want 3:47:583 hours, 47 minutes, 58 secondsto talk about do we increase that 39 you talked about it after last year yeah not during the budget last year we did talk 3:48:073 hours, 48 minutes, 7 secondsabout it at the work session a year ago January you know you talked about the 39 and the single no I'm talking about the 3:48:153 hours, 48 minutes, 15 secondsif you don't take insurance you get 3 900. so like your spouse has really good insurance you can take their engine you 3:48:233 hours, 48 minutes, 23 secondsget an amount of money yeah and that number but and we can look at different scenarios on that too um 3:48:313 hours, 48 minutes, 31 secondsbut we are very competitive with the young teacher the problem with young teachers though 3:48:403 hours, 48 minutes, 40 secondsunless they're from here they don't have a place to live right and that's why your young teachers that 3:48:493 hours, 48 minutes, 49 secondscome back are people from here they make great pay they get benefits for those 3:48:563 hours, 48 minutes, 56 secondsfirst I mean we're right in line we were right in line with Williamson County for the first five years one year they had 3:49:043 hours, 49 minutes, 4 secondsone year that they beat us in one category and they were getting their whole Insurance paid but they don't have a place to live unless you live with Mom 3:49:123 hours, 49 minutes, 12 secondsand Dad and I told adley she can't live with us yeah and that's but his idea is you've 3:49:233 hours, 49 minutes, 23 secondsbeen here five years and you're getting this oh I'm a young teacher I'm getting good all sudden from 5 to 18 you're not 3:49:303 hours, 49 minutes, 30 secondsdoing so well and they leave for a education of our kids the best 3:49:383 hours, 49 minutes, 38 secondsscores are the people that are here they stay here and they learn the objectives they teach their classes they know what 3:49:473 hours, 49 minutes, 47 secondsto do and so they stay so give them an incentive because they know they're going to get a pay a pay increase every 3:49:553 hours, 49 minutes, 55 secondsyear but anyway I beat that so yeah my question is do we even out this step changes 3:50:053 hours, 50 minutes, 5 secondsbecause that is what this what round proposal is if I look at all these red numbers they're exactly 500. yes and 3:50:133 hours, 50 minutes, 13 secondswe've got we've got areas where we have bigger steps than that yeah you know we've got 3:50:213 hours, 50 minutes, 21 secondsokay whatever those big steps are in between let's just to make them all that same thing or could you but then you go have some people that you still need to 3:50:293 hours, 50 minutes, 29 secondsknow where everybody's at you don't have a group of people that's getting close to that big increase and all of a sudden you say we're going to change that oh my God 3:50:373 hours, 50 minutes, 37 seconds[Music] 3:50:403 hours, 50 minutes, 40 secondsMarket around you because again what the 3:50:463 hours, 50 minutes, 46 secondssystems do that are and I haven't analyzed uh Murray's counties completely 3:50:543 hours, 50 minutes, 54 secondsbut what we saw with Williamson County was year 21. 3:51:013 hours, 51 minutes, 1 secondwas a minimum 6500 jump and that was on The Bachelor 3:51:083 hours, 51 minutes, 8 secondsside and then you didn't get any more on the master side it was close to ten thousand John from year 20. 3:51:203 hours, 51 minutes, 20 secondsbecause of what they were going after who they were going after I have not analyzed Murray count is enough um 3:51:283 hours, 51 minutes, 28 secondsjust because numbers running through my head or and we keep step increases up to 30. 3:51:343 hours, 51 minutes, 34 secondssome of the other counties most of them don't 3:51:443 hours, 51 minutes, 44 secondsit's only gonna even out for one year if you give percentage but that's going to change the strategy 3:51:513 hours, 51 minutes, 51 secondsthat we adopted a few years ago yeah having certain steps that are and the reason is when we discussed that was if 3:52:003 hours, 52 minutesin year 10 through 12 if I got a big one in 10 I got it in 10 11 and 12 instead of 3:52:083 hours, 52 minutes, 8 secondsgetting part of it and 10 part of it 11 part of it 12. so I actually got more money over that three-year period Then if I 3:52:163 hours, 52 minutes, 16 secondsgot a little bit here a little bit here a little bit here does that make sense you missed my point though no I I know it is to not go back 3:52:253 hours, 52 minutes, 25 secondsto percentages to use uh 500 600 700 amounts he just said but she said they 3:52:333 hours, 52 minutes, 33 secondswould change after every year with a percentage and she's right there every one of them if if you do it as a dollar 3:52:403 hours, 52 minutes, 40 secondsit will not change it will be from 500 then it'll be a six hundred dollar uh step in between your goal is to even the 3:52:483 hours, 52 minutes, 48 secondssteps then you would have to give a dollar amount raised there not a percentage right what would you 3:52:563 hours, 52 minutes, 56 secondsrecommend I haven't really looked at it to be honest I can't give you a 3:53:033 hours, 53 minutes, 3 secondsI know that when we first did this it worked um the last two phrases in Murray County 3:53:123 hours, 53 minutes, 12 secondsare significant we go four percent but we can give seven and give seven if you give seven again 3:53:193 hours, 53 minutes, 19 secondsthat's six percent so how about how about this as a compromise I think you I think you look at both and there's no 3:53:263 hours, 53 minutes, 26 secondsreason we can't bring it as a compromise why don't we look at making so so I don't think there should be a step 3:53:353 hours, 53 minutes, 35 secondsthat's a hundred bucks and there's some steps in there that are like bothered off but that I don't think there should be steps that are that low right because 3:53:433 hours, 53 minutes, 43 secondsyou're talking about influences people people's paycheck goes up by like ten dollars that's kind of if you're giving raises 3:53:503 hours, 53 minutes, 50 secondseach year that doesn't happen so it it's just that's true as a matter of fact it's never happened yeah it does 3:53:573 hours, 53 minutes, 57 secondsyeah that's that's a good point only an adjustment process does that occur and I didn't I'm just saying maybe instead of 3:54:043 hours, 54 minutes, 4 seconds500 make it 600 and everybody gets it now someone's going to look at it well no keep going your point well no I was 3:54:123 hours, 54 minutes, 12 secondsjust go through it if there's really small steps because I know it we we all know that 3:54:193 hours, 54 minutes, 19 secondsraises go into but when somebody's looking at the salary chart they're like 100 bucks that's all I'm Gonna Get You know for another year or sorry it doesn't it it does look bad right so 3:54:283 hours, 54 minutes, 28 secondsmaybe we look through there and and we set some minimum threshold debt like let's not let's not have a step that's less than 3:54:353 hours, 54 minutes, 35 seconds200 or what 300 some some number but keep the strategically planned larger 3:54:443 hours, 54 minutes, 44 secondssteps that we put in several years ago what could you give like a set amount every year up to like your 3:54:533 hours, 54 minutes, 53 secondsnext point so you get 500 a year up to year 10 or 5 or whatever then at that 3:55:003 hours, 55 minutesyou then you you get this set amount and then a bigger amount a bigger amount and 1500 yeah and then you go down till 3:55:093 hours, 55 minutes, 9 secondsyou get to year 20. and then you get a bigger amount like it's a certain amount for so you get to 3:55:183 hours, 55 minutes, 18 secondsyou know Milestones yes there you go that's the word I'm looking for thank you yes like the big yeah you go all the 3:55:253 hours, 55 minutes, 25 secondsway up to 30. yes and every every time every time you hit a milestone you get you get a you go up 500 more 15 you know 3:55:333 hours, 55 minutes, 33 secondsgo from 500 to 1500 because if you made a plot if you made a a column chart of the difference from year to year it's 3:55:423 hours, 55 minutes, 42 secondsgoing to be up and down like crazy and some of them are a thousand dollars and some of them are a hundred I mean I do 3:55:483 hours, 55 minutes, 48 secondsthink it was the intent was I do think it'd be better if they were they were a little more deliberate because they do 3:55:573 hours, 55 minutes, 57 secondsseem kind of random if they were a little more deliberate but I I do think having Milestone is a good I think it's a good word to you that had certain 3:56:053 hours, 56 minutes, 5 secondsMilestones of your favorite jobs yeah and we have to report years six six eleven eleven 3:56:113 hours, 56 minutes, 11 secondsand year one on some other year zero years and then and it has to be at the Masters 3:56:203 hours, 56 minutes, 20 secondsand doctorate level I don't think EDS isn't it yesterday's advanced level 3:56:273 hours, 56 minutes, 27 secondss Bachelor and then it's any advanced levels and that also State Board of Education 3:56:343 hours, 56 minutes, 34 secondswill approve a thing based off of a percentage and then all of a sudden we'll have one off in year 11. 3:56:423 hours, 56 minutes, 42 secondsand we'll be off by a little bit but that will cause us to have to bump that one up 3:56:533 hours, 56 minutes, 53 secondsso but yeah but if you're having to get to 50 anyway 3:57:013 hours, 57 minutes, 1 secondit's the time to do it yes I would almost recommend thinking about working setting a goal for 50 and 26 27 and 3:57:093 hours, 57 minutes, 9 secondsworking backwards well so I just wanted to be sure the next three years giving Mike some some 3:57:183 hours, 57 minutes, 18 secondsstraightforward guidance about three thousand dollars a year 3:57:283 hours, 57 minutes, 28 secondsin 30 years big question is how much we're going to defend the fund balance to present to the County Commission and it's going to be more than that when you 3:57:363 hours, 57 minutes, 36 secondsstart putting the executes with it I mean we still got to pay them you know you could stay up at Social Security you still got to pay this still got to pay that so that's all added to it first 3:57:443 hours, 57 minutes, 44 secondslook at the number for the salary oh yeah once you hit salary you got an additional 18 right on top of the salary yeah I mean and that's what I think 3:57:533 hours, 57 minutes, 53 secondsmight need to work some other things to consider too this 3:58:003 hours, 58 minutes141 budget large but when we uh this these pay scales that impact Federal 3:58:083 hours, 58 minutes, 8 secondsand there's very little cushion in federal and so you're talking we would either have to cut positions or absorb 3:58:163 hours, 58 minutes, 16 secondspositions back into 141 because they're not getting any more money and so and most of the time their money's going down 3:58:243 hours, 58 minutes, 24 secondsso it affects other budgets that don't have any cushion as much cushions 3:58:333 hours, 58 minutes, 33 secondsright right and if we go very much you know you talk about fund balance but we're still going to have to take a budget 3:58:413 hours, 58 minutes, 41 secondsand add all this stuff up to accounting and they're going to see it you know as far as more maintenance of effort and if 3:58:503 hours, 58 minutes, 50 secondsthey're not looking over here in our fun piles they're looking at if they think they're going to have a place look up here in a couple more years when we got to go up to 50 000. which state's going 3:58:583 hours, 58 minutes, 58 secondsto get her we're gonna have to get it yeah so now so is our is ours like did you say our usual actual spend is 92 or 3:59:073 hours, 59 minutes, 7 seconds94 that's one that's been on average when we talked about this budget last year we felt like we would be closer to 94 3:59:163 hours, 59 minutes, 16 secondsit had been with Nasser it had gone down as low as 89 percent 3:59:273 hours, 59 minutes, 27 secondswell we end up spending about on average we had spent about 91 of what we had 3:59:353 hours, 59 minutes, 35 secondsbudgeted expenditure wise well that's two or three million dollars but we felt like this budget and I'm 3:59:433 hours, 59 minutes, 43 secondsI know how to be able to have this number I'm just not comfortable with the number yet of saving where we're going 3:59:503 hours, 59 minutes, 50 secondsto be at the end of the year but um we felt like At Last year during the budgeting that we would be closer to 94 3:59:583 hours, 59 minutes, 58 secondspercent with what we were going to expend now the flip side of that is 4:00:084 hours, 8 secondssales tax keeps going up three I mean we've gotten 300 000 more in sales tax each year 4:00:204 hours, 20 secondsso so we're ahead with this is why don't we what we throw out a number 4:00:284 hours, 28 secondsthat we're willing to dip into fund balance and with an assumption of our percent spend a budget let's say it's 94 if 4:00:374 hours, 37 secondsthat's your rent whatever your recommendation is on on the percent you think was actually since I figured out where I think we're getting this year right but you can have 4:00:454 hours, 45 secondsthis figured out by Wednesday or next week right so with with the expected percent of budget spend that we 4:00:544 hours, 54 secondsanticipate the difference let's let's say we want we we want a budget that's 4:01:004 hours, 1 minutewhat's a one million deficit with that percentage which means it would go into if we if we say if we think 1 million is 4:01:084 hours, 1 minute, 8 secondswhat we want to go into fund balance you follow what I'm saying let's just like pick a target of this is how much we're willing to go in to fund balance 4:01:174 hours, 1 minute, 17 secondsand set that as our ceiling and then you guys make your recommendation about how you're getting 4:01:254 hours, 1 minute, 25 secondsthat money underneath that number 4:01:304 hours, 1 minute, 30 seconds[Music] 4:01:314 hours, 1 minute, 31 secondsas we move forward and see it does to you come down yeah now I I mean 4:01:384 hours, 1 minute, 38 secondsyou're you're right I agree but I don't think you're gonna have the budget my budget is a fund balance because you're going to hit it we've 4:01:474 hours, 1 minute, 47 secondssaid that so many years you put those raises in that we've got to put in to raise these sort of salaries next three years you're going well it depends on 4:01:554 hours, 1 minute, 55 secondswhat we pick I mean we we've applied I threw out four six and eight percent right but one percent 4:02:034 hours, 2 minutes, 3 secondsso but let's see what percent we could 4:02:124 hours, 2 minutes, 12 secondsafford if we're willing to go X into Fun balance is what I'm saying and what's that X 4:02:204 hours, 2 minutes, 20 secondsis it a million dollars because you still have these projects too we gotta look at those two I know we gotta look at those two and it's the 4:02:284 hours, 2 minutes, 28 secondstotal of the matter so what's the number that everybody so we've got there's 12 minus 2.6 that we can't touch 4:02:374 hours, 2 minutes, 37 secondsminus call it another two that we're required to have so that puts us down there like it was three percent gotta 4:02:464 hours, 2 minutes, 46 secondshave that so that puts us at about seven Colin that's up for grams how much are we willing to dip into the seven that's 4:02:544 hours, 2 minutes, 54 secondsup for grabs uh these are these are high level decisions that I think can be used that if we gave like some direction in this 4:03:014 hours, 3 minutes, 1 secondarea that you could work with I mean do you agree yeah all right yeah so so are we willing to go one into that two 4:03:104 hours, 3 minutes, 10 secondsthoughts two two I say two million who disagrees or agreement I'm just picking a number two million two million in the five 4:03:194 hours, 3 minutes, 19 secondsdollars yeah ten years ago 4:03:374 hours, 3 minutes, 37 secondsthat's capital that's different all right sounds like Ron doesn't look too what's your number wrong one I think 4:03:464 hours, 3 minutes, 46 secondswe need to hear I think we got to use more data before we decided I think we got one more meeting before we well I don't know I'll come up with that next next week 4:03:554 hours, 3 minutes, 55 secondsone more meeting to work session guys yes many as we need so who so who who's 4:04:044 hours, 4 minutes, 4 secondswho's going on am I the only one willing to come up with a number that 4:04:124 hours, 4 minutes, 12 secondshey I understand that budgeting is 4:04:194 hours, 4 minutes, 19 secondsforecasting it's not exact ly energy 10 increase in energy is 4:04:294 hours, 4 minutes, 29 seconds300 000 hit immediately that you can't forecast because they've 4:04:374 hours, 4 minutes, 37 secondsgot a forecast that energy is only going to increase 1.9 percent over next fiscal year they had that same forecast two 4:04:464 hours, 4 minutes, 46 secondsyears ago and it went up 30 percent yeah that so when you set 4:04:544 hours, 4 minutes, 54 secondsI'm not saying we don't deal with fun balance but when you set we're going to go to fund balance and 4:05:034 hours, 5 minutes, 3 secondswe're going to hit it and we're going to hit it this much you may hit it 40 or 50 percent more than what you expected or 4:05:124 hours, 5 minutes, 12 secondsyou may run under it because if energy goes down if it's a mild winter the 4:05:194 hours, 5 minutes, 19 secondsdifference in the difference in a mild winter for us on natural gas is about a hundred thousand dollars yeah look how 4:05:274 hours, 5 minutes, 27 secondsmuch it's fluctuated in the last eight months so so I know we want to look at the Castle Project why don't you work around a minute 4:05:374 hours, 5 minutes, 37 secondsbudget total would put us with with 93 94 or so yeah 4:05:444 hours, 5 minutes, 44 secondswith that level spending would hit fund balance a million dollars okay let's just see what that looks like I'm not saying we'll do that no that gives you 4:05:524 hours, 5 minutes, 52 secondssomething to work with when you put together something for us next time we can talk about it today all right 4:05:594 hours, 5 minutes, 59 secondsall right so this is so you know at 94 right now what 4:06:074 hours, 6 minutes, 7 secondsyou have in this budget you're going to hit thumb balance at three million dollars which means you've got to reduce it right that means it's got to go there 4:06:154 hours, 6 minutes, 15 secondsnow if that 94 is it this was the everything right this was the yeah this was the 4:06:234 hours, 6 minutes, 23 secondsevery everyone need buddy right I mean we all know well there might be some things that people say we didn't put in there so that we might go back and play 4:06:314 hours, 6 minutes, 31 secondsoh which by the way uh Capital project that came up last this week just this week that wasn't on your last list 4:06:404 hours, 6 minutes, 40 secondsof priority it's a fire alarm system at East Intermediate East Intermediate they get inspected or something I don't know 4:06:484 hours, 6 minutes, 48 secondsyeah they were checking it they checked it on a regular basis 4:07:014 hours, 7 minutes, 1 secondso right now right now ASAP I assume yeah and if we can do it out of this year we'll ask you 4:07:094 hours, 7 minutes, 9 secondsto let us know when you're building a school or something you're doing a hundred thousand dollars 4:07:154 hours, 7 minutes, 15 secondsa hundred thousand dollars easier you would ask for it to be prioritized 4:07:244 hours, 7 minutes, 24 secondsto the way it's listed is the priority that we have worked with Mike Plunkett on 4:07:314 hours, 7 minutes, 31 secondsum the first two items are safety items uh and we can rework we had talked about 4:07:384 hours, 7 minutes, 38 secondsthe safety film for the doors right and we were going to request that we just take it out of fun balance but if we're 4:07:464 hours, 7 minutes, 46 secondsgoing to plan for our budget to hit a million we I don't know that we need to do that but um well right now you've got a proposed budget that would 4:07:554 hours, 7 minutes, 55 secondsgo three million right I mean I'm trying to be realistic well it's not right yeah it's a draft it's not a problem I'm just trying to be realistic on what 4:08:034 hours, 8 minutes, 3 secondswhat is a target that we're on yeah I said two I only like two one seven so let's go with one for now 4:08:114 hours, 8 minutes, 11 secondsand nobody else has a fee so let me ask you I'll agree with you so like with Tisa 4:08:194 hours, 8 minutes, 19 secondsum is it amount like when they finally get to a point and say is are you going to get that or is it 4:08:274 hours, 8 minutes, 27 secondsit fluctuates depending on yeah it has funding periods just like it goes off of your ideas so if you got 4:08:374 hours, 8 minutes, 37 secondskids just like she said you know they're projecting like weekly county 100 Kids leaving the system that's going to affect 4:08:444 hours, 8 minutes, 44 secondsthank you and by the way we need to be prepared for that yes because we have a home school 4:08:504 hours, 8 minutes, 50 secondsyeah I mean it is going to fluctuate and what happens is that you're contractually bound to your employees 4:08:584 hours, 8 minutes, 58 secondsthat you had for those students and then if they leave in the middle of the year and you 4:09:054 hours, 9 minutes, 5 secondslose their funding you're still contractually down to them Unfortunately they can go and come as they please because that's all I've done 4:09:144 hours, 9 minutes, 14 secondsfor a month and leave for a month so the the fire alarm is a hundred thousand 4:09:214 hours, 9 minutes, 21 secondsthis uh electronic access for our front entrances uh is budgeted at 250 4:09:304 hours, 9 minutes, 30 secondsum the intercom systems there's two schools that need an intercom system those are also prioritized based on the 4:09:374 hours, 9 minutes, 37 secondsneed so CES has a greater need than Hickman County High School there's three buses and in the budget and you'll see 4:09:464 hours, 9 minutes, 46 secondsbeside each one of the where you'll find them in your budget spreadsheet honestly um 4:09:544 hours, 9 minutes, 54 secondsthere's a van and a driver's ed car um when you have Paving you'll notice East 4:10:034 hours, 10 minutes, 3 secondsElementary is back on the list we are it was on this year's budget list we are not doing it this year because that 4:10:124 hours, 10 minutes, 12 secondsschool is a construction zone and so they're gonna have to dig up the pavement to do the sewer work and so no reason to put brand new asphalt and then 4:10:214 hours, 10 minutes, 21 secondsdig it up so what we are looking to do and we've done this before that's we spoke with Mike Plunkett today 4:10:304 hours, 10 minutes, 30 secondsfor what we have budgeted currently for the parking lot at East Elementary are there some things on this list that we can do this year 4:10:394 hours, 10 minutes, 39 secondsout of that that budget to go ahead and take them off the list um we have ceiling and striping at East 4:10:484 hours, 10 minutes, 48 secondsHickman high school we did part of that parking lot Paving this year we put off Ballpark Road this year and pushed it 4:10:564 hours, 10 minutes, 56 secondsforward to lower our budget last year so it's still out there um East Middle neither Jim wall resealed 4:11:044 hours, 11 minutes, 4 secondson the outside it's starting to get moisture in it so it needs to be resealed especially since we're replacing the gym floor in the 4:11:124 hours, 11 minutes, 12 secondslobby um what was our what was our total capex done for this year 4:11:204 hours, 11 minutes, 20 secondsbudget yeah yeah for some reason I don't think coach won it was one they were in a little bit 4:11:304 hours, 11 minutes, 30 secondsdifferent areas yeah they're spread out but it was roughly 1.99 so 1.95 4:11:424 hours, 11 minutes, 42 secondswell in those are just probably we did take something off of that list there was a million dollar roof on that list last 4:11:514 hours, 11 minutes, 51 secondstime we moved that out and if some of the stuff comes off this year so 4:12:004 hours, 12 minutesCapital outlay remember we worked at the county on move-ins and things uh 1.486 4:12:094 hours, 12 minutes, 9 secondswe started off at like 1.9 and narrowed down yeah so 4:12:184 hours, 12 minutes, 18 secondsif if I had to pick between spending Capital Money on 4:12:274 hours, 12 minutes, 27 secondsyou know I don't know times or something like that or floors or something that can be put off and paying people more money in 4:12:354 hours, 12 minutes, 35 secondstheir salary I pass it and pay more money let me tell you what this floor replacement is I mean I just picked some 4:12:434 hours, 12 minutes, 43 secondsrandom ones yeah um just so you kind of know those are asbestos tiles because the school was built in 62. 4:12:524 hours, 12 minutes, 52 secondsand so when they are removed when they're Disturbed you got them there's a that's why this is called because and 4:13:004 hours, 13 minuteswhile the reason it's there right now East Elementary is already a construction zone this whole summer so while they're there 4:13:094 hours, 13 minutes, 9 secondsdo we use the money that we were going to pay their parking lot and just go ahead and replace the course that you know so that's the safety issue there 4:13:184 hours, 13 minutes, 18 secondsum and we haven't had a problem but just know that we do have tiles come up on and they have to have they have to be 4:13:264 hours, 13 minutes, 26 secondsabated yeah I know a building like little building like a business in the 4:13:334 hours, 13 minutes, 33 secondsfuture you have to keep it sealed yeah the Federal Building um 4:13:414 hours, 13 minutes, 41 secondsand the electronic sign at East Hickman high school if you've driven by there you've noticed there's a panel that's 4:13:484 hours, 13 minutes, 48 secondshaving a problem and so it's not a requirement to have an electronic sign but if you're going to 4:13:564 hours, 13 minutes, 56 secondshave one it should look good and it's gonna cost that much it could 4:14:074 hours, 14 minutes, 7 secondsum that's why it's at the bottom I mean you know because it's just Aesthetics I think for that new one was bought down 4:14:144 hours, 14 minutes, 14 secondsthere the one down at the road down here 4:14:254 hours, 14 minutes, 25 secondsElementary yeah yeah it's been 10 years yeah but I think it was 60 000 back then so 4:14:324 hours, 14 minutes, 32 secondsthere's two is that for a new one or six that's the estimate is to fix it but 4:14:404 hours, 14 minutes, 40 secondsyeah and then it's old yeah and so they're not sure technology is 4:14:484 hours, 14 minutes, 48 secondsprobably gone that's 4:14:554 hours, 14 minutes, 55 seconds[Music] 4:14:564 hours, 14 minutes, 56 secondsevery two years for those so you'll notice on your that puts them 4:15:034 hours, 15 minutes, 3 secondson a 16-year rotation uh it's probably gone the asterisk is the East Middle gym and Lobby that needs 4:15:104 hours, 15 minutes, 10 secondsto be in our budget but it is passed through yeah because insurance is paying for that 4:15:244 hours, 15 minutes, 24 secondsI would have two totals down here there's the total that 2.2 billion and then what's going to be 4:15:314 hours, 15 minutes, 31 secondsthe real total then that we need to find yeah that's what I'm getting at isn't it 4:15:394 hours, 15 minutes, 39 secondsand then your East Hickman Elementary School floor replacement you know when we talked about 4:15:474 hours, 15 minutes, 47 secondsthe repair work that is to help that school that was on the long-term building plan but know that it is a 4:15:564 hours, 15 minutes, 56 secondsyou're we're going to still have to make a decision about the long-term plan for that school 4:16:034 hours, 16 minutes, 3 secondsforeign 4:16:284 hours, 16 minutes, 28 secondsthis is the total amount we'd like to put in the budget if you had 2 million 4:16:344 hours, 16 minutes, 34 secondssounds like we budgeted 1.5 last year one more time well we started off with 1.5 4:16:474 hours, 16 minutes, 47 secondsso if if you had 2 million what are the things that you would do with the two 4:16:534 hours, 16 minutes, 53 secondsright is this this is just the economics of budgeting because you don't you don't get everything you want I mean that's why we brought the 4:17:014 hours, 17 minutes, 1 secondprojects off to stuff that's great and that's why they're still here I mean the bottom that's why you have the 4:17:084 hours, 17 minutes, 8 secondsbottom of the list that's great so if that's not our priority then we need to change it around so so what 4:17:164 hours, 17 minutes, 16 secondsright what what's what's our big thing too many capital capex budget 4:17:234 hours, 17 minutes, 23 seconds1.5 like last last year or two highlight two 4:17:304 hours, 17 minutes, 30 secondsit's like two millions a good one let's go with two he probably gets out with it but we're going to have I mean this is a priority a fan of the top to this yeah I 4:17:404 hours, 17 minutes, 40 secondsthink Michelle and her team can prioritize if we just give her yeah we've already done this since you see yeah so you can just started holding 4:17:484 hours, 17 minutes, 48 secondsthese up and when you get to two the ones on the bottom get pushed with something another year yeah because I want I want Mike and Michelle 4:17:574 hours, 17 minutes, 57 secondsto have enough input information to have something pretty good for us in a week 4:18:064 hours, 18 minutes, 6 secondsand I think that would be enough guidance to work with on campus what's that too 4:18:144 hours, 18 minutes, 14 secondshave some very good for you now as far as it's not the budget I would go with but it's something you know again so you're 4:18:234 hours, 18 minutes, 23 secondstalking about the one you said was three million in the bundle yeah it gives you a starting point to look at and decide what you want to do 4:18:304 hours, 18 minutes, 30 secondsyeah yeah so I think we said we wanted to go one thing budget 4:18:404 hours, 18 minutes, 40 seconds[Laughter] 4:18:484 hours, 18 minutes, 48 secondsone million into it you may not hit it no no I mean that's why I wanted to be I want to be one million into it with the 4:18:564 hours, 18 minutes, 56 seconds90 something percent spending and I want to real estimate on depending to the budget I'm telling you 4:19:044 hours, 19 minutes, 4 secondsyeah but at least sitting here next year and we haven't spent any fun balance you you can't think that way because it is 4:19:154 hours, 19 minutes, 15 secondsthere is no way anyone can sit here and tell you that it's going to definitely 4:19:224 hours, 19 minutes, 22 secondsbe 94 96 or 88 that's why you give a 10 4:19:284 hours, 19 minutes, 28 secondspossible so so for the new one 4:19:384 hours, 19 minutes, 38 secondsyeah but but what you got almost exactly but that is 4:19:474 hours, 19 minutes, 47 secondsI know it's a it's an estimate but I'm saying pick a percentage and let's work around it you have to pick something like that yeah but that's what we've 4:19:554 hours, 19 minutes, 55 secondsdone I mean that's what we've given you to start and I'm not saying everything that you've thrown out there I want and so we we will get the starting point 4:20:044 hours, 20 minutes, 4 secondssounds like it needs to go down two million but right yeah but you can't sit here and say if we're sitting in here 4:20:124 hours, 20 minutes, 12 secondsnext year and we haven't hit fund balance because I'm going to darn while guarantee you the last three years I 4:20:194 hours, 20 minutes, 19 secondsprayed that we would hit thumbnails I prayed that because I I'm tired of people 4:20:264 hours, 20 minutes, 26 secondsgriping about us not spending to get the Public's money you 4:20:344 hours, 20 minutes, 34 secondsyou and I'm sorry 10 million dollars worth of expenditures all you have to do is have an economic 4:20:414 hours, 20 minutes, 41 secondsdownturn or you have one building go out with the plumbing and you've got to spend three million 4:20:494 hours, 20 minutes, 49 secondsdollars all of a sudden to get that school from being shut down well you've got to find other ways 4:20:574 hours, 20 minutes, 57 secondsI I wanted to start with two I know I know because I know if we said that you would be lucky don't hold us too if 4:21:064 hours, 21 minutes, 6 secondswe're sitting here because I'm not going to try and hit thumb balance just because we want to 4:21:144 hours, 21 minutes, 14 secondshit thumbnails coming up you got what 4:21:234 hours, 21 minutes, 23 secondsyeah we get overtime overtime pay 4:21:454 hours, 21 minutes, 45 seconds30 people called maybe not it is the whole thing just and then waiting 4:21:534 hours, 21 minutes, 53 secondsand then work says for over a year 4:22:054 hours, 22 minutes, 5 secondswell we do need a special for our uh hey at least we didn't tell each other 4:22:154 hours, 22 minutes, 15 secondsyeah let me make sure that we under this correctly so this Wednesday 6 30 special 4:22:234 hours, 22 minutes, 23 secondscall meeting right and then after the meeting we will go into budget work session right like 4:22:324 hours, 22 minutes, 32 secondstonight so is the is the only but the only thing on the agenda for that special call maybe the director right right 4:22:424 hours, 22 minutes, 42 secondsthere there will be a bid open up 4:22:504 hours, 22 minutes, 50 secondspossibly the surgeon is that right or something that's right well you can put that yeah if we find out the bid's being opened up 4:22:594 hours, 22 minutes, 59 secondsthis week yeah 4:23:034 hours, 23 minutes, 3 seconds[Music] 4:23:054 hours, 23 minutes, 5 secondsmaybe next week 4:23:114 hours, 23 minutes, 11 seconds[Music] 4:23:124 hours, 23 minutes, 12 secondsthank you thank y'all for all the hard work 4:23:214 hours, 23 minutes, 21 secondshanging out here tonight yes certainly