10:5110 minutes, 51 secondsIt is time to order. Have a moment of silence, please.
11:0511 minutes, 5 secondsThank you. At this time, I have legislation.
11:1311 minutes, 13 secondsTo the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsindivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.
11:2911 minutes, 29 secondsHave the agenda. Do we have a motion to approve the agenda for tonight, January 22nd? I'll make a motion to approve it.
11:3811 minutes, 38 secondsSecond, is somebody keeping minutes? Minutes. Is anybody keeping the minutes?
11:4811 minutes, 48 secondsI think so said that she would go back and watch the video. Have to watch the video.
11:5111 minutes, 51 secondsThat's fine. I just Okay. I didn't want to put that on. [laughter] Uh, all in favor say I.
12:0112 minutes, 1 secondI motion carried. Agenda for the 22nd is first is discussion of oped. Um
12:1012 minutes, 10 secondswe've been talking about this and we have some information before you about the trust and if anybody's looked at
12:1812 minutes, 18 secondsyour emails and they got a got that information from u them or it has gone
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsup again which is good. So you want to carry on?
12:3012 minutes, 30 secondsYeah. In uh September we did a presentation. I'm not going to go through every part of the presentation.
12:3612 minutes, 36 secondsI have updated with some more realistic scenarios in the presentation. We'll hit those. Uh
12:4312 minutes, 43 secondswe'll try not to speak long and then we'll talk about the options that you all kind of had before you. We won't go
12:5112 minutes, 51 secondsthrough the history of it. I think all you all for the most part remember the history of OPED and if not you can kind
12:5812 minutes, 58 secondsof uh read it in your packet that's given there. just kind of going over the
13:0413 minutes, 4 secondscurrent um um eligibility
13:1013 minutes, 10 secondsuh aspects of the program. 30 or more years of service in Hickman County Schools, 55% of single policy premium
13:2013 minutes, 20 secondsbased off of the uh employee premium, not the retiree premium, 30% of family
13:2713 minutes, 27 secondspolicy, then 20 29 years of service, 45% and 25% 10 and 19 years of service, 35%
13:3613 minutes, 36 secondsand 15. remembering all along that this is for employees who were hired prior to July 1st, 2015.
13:4713 minutes, 47 secondsAnd um so um this just shows those numbers that were
13:5513 minutes, 55 secondson the previous slide, what they actually end up doing in relation to the amount of medical insurance premium up
14:0414 minutes, 4 secondsto the age of 65 that is covered uh in relation to the benefit that the person
14:1014 minutes, 10 secondswould get. Um, we talked about last time also what our this balance is as of
14:1814 minutes, 18 secondsDecember 31st, 2025. It did grow some more, 3.4
14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsmillion, almost 3.5 million. Our SY25 benefits that were paid was 20,000 for
14:3214 minutes, 32 secondsthe medical insurance portion and 26,000 for the supplemental the Medicare supplemental portion.
14:4114 minutes, 41 secondsUh in this uh scenario currently, if we were doing things during calendar year 2026,
14:5014 minutes, 50 secondsthese would be the maximum benefits amount based off of the amount of years uh someone had served at retirement.
15:0115 minutes, 1 secondAnd so we also know with TCRS retirement, we have early retirement vested members occur at least 55 years of age and 25 years of credible service.
15:1315 minutes, 13 secondsAnd so our Medicare supplement insurance premiums for calendar year 2026.
15:2015 minutes, 20 secondsIf someone had 30 plus years and they were getting that, we would be reimbursing them $1615.
15:2915 minutes, 29 secondsIf they had 20 to 29 years, $325 and if they were 10 to 19 years, $254
15:3715 minutes, 37 secondsroughly. Um those are the retiree will pay for those during the calendar year
15:4515 minutes, 45 secondsand we reimburse them in December each year for those supplemental uh insurance coverage not for the medical benefit.
15:5615 minutes, 56 secondsThe medical insurance up till they're 65 if we're receiving that. We are build during the year for that and we are already paying those at those rates.
16:0816 minutes, 8 secondsWe did have uh when we looked at this scenario and still the case, we had 179 active full-time employees who were
16:1616 minutes, 16 secondshired prior to that 71 2015 date. Uh 83
16:2216 minutes, 22 secondsof those currently have met uh or meet the eligibility requirements for the OPE
16:2916 minutes, 29 secondsbenefits. Also, they are they do are taking the insurance at this point in time. 43 of those uh certified
16:3816 minutes, 38 secondsemployees, they meet all the other requirements, but they are not taking the insurance.
16:4416 minutes, 44 secondsThe regulations on taking the insurance.
16:4816 minutes, 48 secondsIf you are, and you can correct me on this, if you have served more than 20 years, you have to be on it at least one
16:5716 minutes, 57 secondsyear before retirement. If you have served less than 20 years to be eligible for it, you have to be on it three years
17:0417 minutes, 4 secondsbefore retirement. And that's when you're getting to that retirement state. Okay. Is that correct?
17:1217 minutes, 12 secondsIt's at the time, not where they're at right now. But so someone doesn't have to be on our
17:1917 minutes, 19 secondsinsurance for if they're a 30-year person, they've never taken our insurance and they're a year away from
17:2517 minutes, 25 secondsretirement from the state, they can go on our insurance and they'd be eligible for it. So that's where that can open
17:3417 minutes, 34 secondsup. Uh we have 53 non-certified. 28 of those currently have medical insurance through the school. 25 of those do not.
17:4317 minutes, 43 secondsOf this 53, and when you look at some of the scenarios I laid out, of this 53, 17
17:5117 minutes, 51 secondsof those are already past medical insurance age. In other words, they're older than 65. I won't name who
17:5817 minutes, 58 secondsthose are, but because I'd get in trouble, but that's why you'll see that when we look at a couple scenarios real
18:0618 minutes, 6 secondsquick, it doesn't make a tons of difference in the in that scenario.
18:1118 minutes, 11 secondsUm so how I estimated what you're going to see briefly I'm not going to go into the details but just give you uh kind of
18:1918 minutes, 19 secondsthe scenarios of when money would run run out. We assumed op fund annual growth at 8% actually over the last eight years it has grown at 11.37%.
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondsuh this is a conservative estimate because I think most of us realize that the stock market and mutual funds over
18:4018 minutes, 40 seconds70 years range between 12 and 14% and some of the investments going to be in that and it's going to mirror that a
18:4718 minutes, 47 secondslittle bit. So the models that I used was 8% on that annual insurance premium increase throughout the life of this I
18:5618 minutes, 56 secondsdid at 6% that is if you take since 2018 and also what they're projecting for the
19:0419 minutes, 4 secondsnext few years even though hadn't always been a 6% increase over those years combined it's
19:1119 minutes, 11 secondsabout a 6% increase in employer medical [clears throat] insurance. you go outside of the employer into the market
19:1819 minutes, 18 secondsthat's different but employer medical insurance is about 6%.
19:2319 minutes, 23 secondsI use a 75% projected cost of our people who are
19:3019 minutes, 30 secondscurrently meet all the requirements when I figured out what I did is I took
19:3719 minutes, 37 secondswhen they would turn 65 and I went back at however many years they would be eligible for that insurance.
19:4519 minutes, 45 secondsA few would be more than six years. Most are going to be six years or less, but a few would be more than six years. And uh
19:5319 minutes, 53 secondsI did that and carried that out. Also with the supplemental, I think I told you the average lifespan past 65 is
20:0120 minutes, 1 secondabout 20 years. So we carried that supplement out for 20 years. And so in this though when the reason these
20:0920 minutes, 9 secondsprojections are will be different than what I showed you in September is because I took a more realistic aspect
20:1720 minutes, 17 secondsum a high-end more realistic aspect of about 75% of that cost of those who are
20:2520 minutes, 25 secondscurrently fully eligible taking insurance of what their cost would be versus what it was
20:3420 minutes, 34 secondscalculated at. And I'll explain that a little bit more here in a few minutes.
20:3820 minutes, 38 secondsAnd so those were the assumptions that we made in relation to this. So here's the the one thing we talked about and
20:4620 minutes, 46 secondshopefully you guys don't mind me walking around and if the owl does it can I guess get over a little bit. But um last
20:5420 minutes, 54 secondstime what we looked at was scenarios of when is the money going to run out. Uh the reality is the way this works is it's a benefit until the money runs out.
21:0721 minutes, 7 secondsSo the first scenario in 256 certified employees only 75% of the max cost of
21:1621 minutes, 16 secondsthose who are currently meeting all the eligibility requirements and then 75% of [clears throat] those not taking
21:2321 minutes, 23 secondsinsurance. If they did and got on it and took all those
21:2921 minutes, 29 secondspercentages, it could run out in 20,56
21:3721 minutes, 37 secondscertified employees only. Again, on the next one, 2067, and that's if 50% of
21:4521 minutes, 45 secondsthose who are not currently on insurance got on insurance before the end and join the program.
21:5321 minutes, 53 secondsuh 2047 if for everyone certified and non-certified that meet that higher date
22:0122 minutes, 1 secondeligibility and the insurance portion of it. If all of those
22:0922 minutes, 9 secondsparticipated at a 75% level, we could run out of money in 2047.
22:1822 minutes, 18 secondscould. Okay.
22:2122 minutes, 21 secondsMore likely scenarios. Um, in the next one you see 2065, you still have that
22:2722 minutes, 27 seconds75% of those who are there. You've got to figure those people are going to be in the program.
22:3522 minutes, 35 secondsBut 50% on the certified who's not taking insurance, 50% on the non-certified.
22:4322 minutes, 43 secondsNotice I put that this is the same benefit amount. That's a discussion that uh we can have or you all will need to
22:5122 minutes, 51 secondshave. Um not sure it makes a big difference to the length of the money because again we're kind of talking
23:0023 minutesabout uh if you remember I said 17 of those people who are non-certified out of that 53 number they're not going to
23:0823 minutes, 8 secondsget the medical insurance benefit because they're past that age if they were to use it. and 2069 if you were at 75 25 and 25% participation.
23:2223 minutes, 22 secondsUm Amanda and I talked a little bit that 75% I think is a little bit of a high number
23:3123 minutes, 31 secondsbut a comfortable high number. More than likely, most of ours, and we have not gone in and done an exhaustive thing of
23:3923 minutes, 39 secondsthis, but probably our people are somewhere on average if they're taking the medical benefit,
23:4823 minutes, 48 secondsthree and a half to four years on that medical benefit, which would put that cost aspect really somewhere around 67%
23:5723 minutes, 57 secondsand stuff. By the way, a 2%age change in
24:0424 minutes, 4 secondsuh the uh amount of growth in um
24:1024 minutes, 10 secondsthe OPED uh fund. If it went down 2%, these numbers would change drastically.
24:2024 minutes, 20 secondsThat 2% makes the whole lot. That being said, every one of them when I run them at 60% instead of 75%, only one of them has us running out money.
24:3224 minutes, 32 secondsin a scenario. These are not actuarial.
24:3724 minutes, 37 secondsThey are there's really other than paying someone thousands of dollars to come in here and run those things. These
24:4524 minutes, 45 secondsare an estimate kind of a worst case best worst case scenario up there. Um
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsbut um there don't hold me to that there's not mistakes. I'm not an actuary. They're
25:0325 minutes, 3 secondsjust sitting there modeling, looking at it. I did go back and for everyone that was currently on insurance, I put in
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondstheir plan. If you remember the last time we did the average of all the plans, I put their actual plan in with
25:1925 minutes, 19 secondsthat we would give them in their years at retirement and carried that out however many years they were going to be able to do that maximum wise.
25:3125 minutes, 31 secondsAnd uh so it's a more realistic picture for what we have. Questions on any of that?
25:3825 minutes, 38 secondsI know explaining it probably it's hard to understand. It's hard for me to it's not hard hard for me to get it's long to
25:4625 minutes, 46 secondsget into the figures and but it's hard to explain the figures u adequately. I think at least for me it is. Someone
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondselse will probably explain better. Well, we do have a people that's on it now that's been on it since we've started
26:0026 minutesthis sooner or later it's going to be off of it.
26:0526 minutes, 5 secondsYeah. And that that's exactly it. So the the medical part of it like we said generally we think just from a quick
26:1226 minutes, 12 secondsanalysis most of the time someone says three and a half to four years. We do have some that are six. We do have some
26:1926 minutes, 19 secondsthat are 10. very few, but they eventually go. The most you can be on the medical side is 10 years. Now, on
26:2726 minutes, 27 secondsthe supplemental side, once you're 65, you start getting that, you can be on it until
26:3726 minutes, 37 secondsyou die and goes up every year with your birthday. If it's like most of them, the cost goes up every year.
26:4426 minutes, 44 secondsYeah. So, we get it's a it's a January one.
26:4826 minutes, 48 secondsIt's a January one change. And that's why we do that payment in December and and that follows a a calendar year.
26:5626 minutes, 56 secondsUm if we hadn't made that last change or when that last change was made uh and
27:0427 minutes, 4 secondsstuck to the original plan, uh it would have been a whole lot less down road for us. But uh since we don't
27:1327 minutes, 13 secondshave more added on to that even on the professional level, you know, unless we have a great fall out of people for
27:2127 minutes, 21 secondshealth reasons, say that uh I don't think we run out of money now. How many people we've got to add in here? We say
27:2927 minutes, 29 secondswe don't have that many and there's not anybody else behind them because of the cut off thing.
27:3627 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. And so if you have, and I'm not going to go back and rehash the previous one, but if you have that packet, it
27:4327 minutes, 43 secondsgave you some years. And again, that was the worst case scenario. Everyone maxing out what they were able to max out. This
27:5227 minutes, 52 secondsis more realistic. I think it's probably still a little bit high, but that's just my opinion. How how much are we spending a year now?
28:0128 minutes, 1 secondRight now we're spending this year we'll probably spend about somewhere between 50 and 60. Last year we spent right at
28:0928 minutes, 9 seconds60. And it all depends on when people retire. Um you know you have we have
28:1728 minutes, 17 secondsprobably and I don't have a spreadsheet in in front of me but we probably have uh 10 people that could retire at full benefit this year.
28:2928 minutes, 29 secondsUm, but our people don't normally retire that early. They normally retire closer to
28:3828 minutes, 38 secondsyou. So, you got 10 that's about to turn 55 is what it sounds like, right? Is that what you're talking about? They're about to get turn 55.
28:4628 minutes, 46 secondsWell, they got the years, but it's based based off a year. But a lot of times, and Amanda I think can speak to this more than than I do. A lot of times our
28:5528 minutes, 55 secondspeople people like to work.
28:5928 minutes, 59 secondsI mean, you know, or maybe people don't like not to work. Maybe that's [laughter] the way to do it. Or they need the money and they want to wait
29:0829 minutes, 8 secondsuntil that social security matches up with their retirement benefit.
29:1129 minutes, 11 secondsAnd so a lot of times you're waiting until 62 or or 63. But some retire as
29:1829 minutes, 18 secondssoon as they can. and go do other things and they're still able to get the benefit if they meet all the requirements. But what just a quick
29:2729 minutes, 27 secondsanalysis we think about three and a half to four years is probably what our average retiree medical benefit is. Not the supplemental portion of the retirey.
29:3729 minutes, 37 secondsWell, just since I've been here on the board, it's like it's grown grew, excuse me, it's grew uh uh what about 400,000
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondsapproximately to from three to say in the last few years. Yeah.
29:5029 minutes, 50 secondsSo that 400,000 currently would fund what you're currently doing for eight years without
29:5729 minutes, 57 secondseven touching the three. And so, and that's a better case there, you know, that's that's kind of go. Yeah,
30:0430 minutes, 4 secondsI do think it's going to grow over the next several years. [snorts] Uh, when I say next several years, next maybe double
30:1230 minutes, 12 secondsseven or eight years. You think it'll double?
30:1430 minutes, 14 secondsSo, you have to take that into account because we have a group that's in that 5 to 10 year range.
30:2230 minutes, 22 secondsUm, it could possibly double, you think?
30:2530 minutes, 25 secondsYeah, it could. And that's still what 100 depending on who all who all you allow to come in. It could still
30:3130 minutes, 31 secondsif you got 3% on that 3 million or what we got now instead of the what the the
30:3830 minutes, 38 secondsfantastic numbers we saw that would cover the hundred uh on three of three and a half% or something like that.
30:4730 minutes, 47 secondsSo yeah, but but you also have to keep in mind that that as that number on the
30:5430 minutes, 54 secondsmedical insurance benefit side grows, then that number on the supplemental portion is also going to grow. And
31:0331 minutes, 3 secondsthat's what the medical benefit part uh literally just goes to if I think
31:1231 minutes, 12 seconds2058 is the latest that someone turns 65 that meets the time thing. Don't hold me to
31:2031 minutes, 20 secondsthat. But adding 20 years onto that, this carries out to
31:2831 minutes, 28 secondspossibly 2078 or beyond for some people to still be getting some benefits. But that medical benefit portion, any of it
31:3731 minutes, 37 secondsis gone at 208 and then it's just supplemental portion.
31:4231 minutes, 42 secondsthe I I will tell you this, if the market is not growing, it will not keep up with this 75% scenario.
31:5331 minutes, 53 secondsWhen I took it down to 6% growth, the money was wiped out probably 10 years earlier on each of these.
32:0532 minutes, 5 secondsUm, so market can drive a lot. The reality is [snorts] market is probably
32:1232 minutes, 12 secondsgoing to do more than 8% over the life of this thing. So there's probably going to be money at the end
32:1932 minutes, 19 secondsuh even with adding uh additional people on that currently are not eligible for it.
32:2832 minutes, 28 secondsAnd it am I right that like we're one of the few school systems that do this, right?
32:3532 minutes, 35 secondsSo like other school systems don't necessarily have this benefit. Is that how many of them you had a count?
32:4332 minutes, 43 secondsSo is it just the schools that are [clears throat] members of OB that have it?
32:4632 minutes, 46 secondsShabby County is the biggest one and there's probably half a dozen other ones or more. So kind of what I'm getting at is even if like we can provide that for
32:5532 minutes, 55 secondseverybody until the money runs out that's that many years they would get it that they would have probably not gotten it any where you know
33:0333 minutes, 3 secondsright I mean that's still a benefit.
33:0533 minutes, 5 secondsIt's a good selling point for the for the district. Do we?
33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsWell it is but it's not something you can recruit with now because you have to be before 2000.
33:1533 minutes, 15 secondsThat's right. Now I will say this, it is set up and it is written this way also
33:2233 minutes, 22 secondsthat if you were formerly employ if you were employed before 2015 and you become reemployed
33:3033 minutes, 30 secondsI think you're eligible back in it if you meet all the requirements right because we've had that scenario
33:3733 minutes, 37 secondsthey're eligible to continue their insurance I guess it would be did we write it to be their eligibility
33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsso yeah that scenario could come into play.
33:4833 minutes, 48 secondsIf we if we exhausted the funds and we still have people that are eligible for this, do we have an obligation to them?
33:5833 minutes, 58 secondsI do not believe we can get a legal opinion and probably need to, but the way the trust is written and the way the
34:0534 minutes, 5 secondsbenefit is written in our resolution previously is that it's there until the
34:1334 minutes, 13 secondsfunds are exhausted. That being said, I don't think we do everything we can to exhaust. In my opinion,
34:2234 minutes, 22 secondsit was something that was used. This is just my opinion for people to retain people to bring
34:3234 minutes, 32 secondsthem in. Once it was discontinued, it was still out there for those people that did come and met those
34:4034 minutes, 40 secondsrequirements. And I don't think we have a legal thing. And
34:4734 minutes, 47 secondsagain, we'll we'll get a legal opinion on it. But I while I don't think we have to carry it, make sure it carries out to
34:5534 minutes, 55 seconds2078 or something like that. I do think you don't want to just rush and lose it
35:0135 minutes, 1 secondwhen someone that hired prior to 2015 looked at this as a
35:0935 minutes, 9 secondsbenefit that they may be able to have in 20 years or something like that.
35:1335 minutes, 13 secondsIt's just a that's my opinion. That's a benefit that uh we're offering, you know, and the original way it was set up when it's run out, it runs out.
35:2335 minutes, 23 secondsYeah.
35:2335 minutes, 23 secondsSo, and and it's it's done well. So, you know, what we started with and what we have now
35:3135 minutes, 31 secondsmade almost $3 million. It started with 500, right?
35:3435 minutes, 34 secondsYeah. Go ahead. So, uh, and if we just add I don't I look to see how many
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondspeople we have on it that need that. Uh, I don't think if we take it just to the
35:5135 minutes, 51 secondspeople that uh take it to so they can get 65 so they can get on Medicare and stop it at that
35:5935 minutes, 59 secondsrate. That's the way it was originally set up and then it got changed for the professional people. We can leave it just like that to keep professional as
36:0836 minutes, 8 secondsit is and then leave this at 65 and and they're off because they would be on Medicare full. Uh or we can take it just
36:1636 minutes, 16 secondslike the other one is. That's something we there's and that's a total different figure too from 65 stop to on and on and
36:2536 minutes, 25 secondson. So, and that as far as that part of the discussion item and what you're saying is the
36:3336 minutes, 33 secondsthings you guys really uh need to decide is how you want to do it. And we made this point at our last meeting. For our
36:4236 minutes, 42 secondsnonlicensed retirees, they do not get that benefit that the
36:4936 minutes, 49 secondsstate of the retiree premium for the state for the medical side. So this
36:5536 minutes, 55 secondsshowed what in the current year for a licensed retiree basically the maximum if they're
37:0337 minutes, 3 secondsemployee only was $5,233 would be that premium portion that we
37:1037 minutes, 10 secondswould be paying the uh non-licensed retiree that maximum is on that family side
37:1937 minutes, 19 secondswould be 9516 Um so excuse me both of those are on the
37:2637 minutes, 26 secondsfamily side not on the uh employee only side but uh those are the maximums uh
37:3337 minutes, 33 secondsthat are currently out there. So the state does contribute or reduce whatever you want to call it
37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsthe certified portion um of the b of the premium for u
37:4837 minutes, 48 secondscertified retirees but it does not for non-certified retirees and here's the thing
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondsregardless of whether OP is there non-certified retirees can if they've been on the insurance they can still get
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsinsurance through the state. They just have to pay for it. It It's not where they have to go get it on the open
38:1138 minutes, 11 secondsmarket. They can still continue it through state as a retiree.
38:1738 minutes, 17 secondsAnd that's what you mean while we owe by the same dollars, right? That was the the Yeah. So that scenario that I laid out in there was taking whatever the maximum
38:2638 minutes, 26 secondsamount we were paying um on uh retire on certified.
38:3338 minutes, 33 secondsI carried the same amount on non-certified. That being said, when you're talking 53, and remember we took
38:3938 minutes, 39 seconds17 out of those 53. So that puts us down to 36.
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondsIt's not going to change if you go to the maximum amount. I'm not saying do it. I'm just giving you the information.
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsIt's not going to change those years that much.
39:0239 minutes, 2 secondsAny more questions? U what I would ask that
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondslook at this over get back with me because this uh 16th and 17th February I
39:1639 minutes, 16 secondshave a meeting at the legislature and Franklin and the 17th is when we talk about this
39:2439 minutes, 24 secondsand I need to know what to ask to clarify what we want. So, if y'all got a
39:3239 minutes, 32 secondsa question you want me to ask, we can do that. And if his push comes shut, I can get them down here. They'll come down
39:3939 minutes, 39 secondsand and discuss it with us before we make a decision on it. But I want to hit them up with it first.
39:4639 minutes, 46 secondsWe will reach out both to Scott Bennett and also TSVA from the legal side on that. That's a good question and I'm
39:5439 minutes, 54 secondsThat's because I bet Ben on that is part of takes part of this care of it. So, and that's who I usually go through because
40:0140 minutes, 1 secondmost like Scott is I don't know how much familiar he is with this, but he would that was their program, right?
40:1040 minutes, 10 secondsAnd refresh my memory if we we run out of employees and we have money still in this. What are our options with that?
40:1940 minutes, 19 secondsThat was something Mr. Hobs was checking.
40:2440 minutes, 24 secondsOkay. Uh we believe we do believe it's ours.
40:2940 minutes, 29 secondsWe know it's ours. It's just we don't we didn't know if there were any restrictions as far as how we use it's never been that I can see
40:3740 minutes, 37 secondsbut that's one question I want to ask if you know employees. To me we need to find the happy medium.
40:4440 minutes, 44 secondsWe need to take care of all of our employees.
40:4840 minutes, 48 secondsI would like to see us pick up and and take care of the non-certified. At least give them something.
40:5340 minutes, 53 secondsYeah. and use it all to their benefit, but we don't want to end it and have $3 million sitting in this thing and have a
41:0141 minutes, 1 secondproblem getting it out. And I think that's more likely scenario. I I that's I think so too.
41:0941 minutes, 9 secondsUm if the market continues [clears throat] to grow like it compounds like crazy when it gets to this level. You get big numbers. It does.
41:1641 minutes, 16 secondsYeah. I mean it shocked me. That's what I looked at this last report. Here's here's the other reality.
41:2241 minutes, 22 seconds[clears throat] I agree from from a historical standpoint it. But if we start hitting a few years
41:3041 minutes, 30 secondswhere we're spending $200,000 a year on benefits, which that's very because you got to remember the
41:3941 minutes, 39 secondsit only takes by rule of 72, it only takes 12 years for that thing to double just on the current five people that you
41:4841 minutes, 48 secondshave in there. Instead of being 50,000, it's 100,000 in 12 years. So if you add
41:5741 minutes, 57 seconds20 people on that, that 100,000 now becomes 250,000.
42:0342 minutes, 3 secondsYou have two year two bad years of market substantial down in the market
42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsand you have those high expenditures. It can't can send it railing real quick and you're going to run out of funds a lot
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondsquicker because it won't recover as quick. That is not me telling you don't do the thing. That's just
42:2542 minutes, 25 secondsthere is no guarantee on all you can do is look at history and try and model
42:3542 minutes, 35 secondsworst case scenarios and then real work the true worst case scenario. And that's what we tried to do. But we're not
42:4242 minutes, 42 secondsexperts in it. We just tried to give you guys some information. But I agree with everything that you said.
42:4942 minutes, 49 secondsAnd we that's why we need to know what our obligation is. If we run out of money, we make a decision and the market goes bad and we run out of money. What
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondsare we obligated to ask? Yeah. Okay.
43:0343 minutes, 3 secondsIf you all send me something to shoot some other scenarios, like I say, if you get all this any of
43:1143 minutes, 11 secondsthis in before February 17th, it would help if we need there land in the fall. But I
43:2043 minutes, 20 secondsI can call Ben on any anything. I said if push comes to shove, we're still not clear. You know, I give him come down
43:2843 minutes, 28 secondshere and he'll he know they deal with it since ground one. And
43:3743 minutes, 37 secondsso I'm sure they've had those questions asked before.
43:4143 minutes, 41 secondsI look at you look at and I've got a book on it. The overall amount of money that's in that thing is mindboggling.
43:5143 minutes, 51 secondsSh County is millions and millions of dollars in that.
44:0144 minutes, 1 secondThey called us out at one of the meetings over in the hall meeting PSBA.
44:0744 minutes, 7 secondsDid we have our district meeting and they was bragging over Hickman County for doing this? It was a good thing
44:1544 minutes, 15 secondsbeing one of the counties that other counties were there were asking about it, right?
44:1944 minutes, 19 secondsAnd want to get involved in it. So that was a good it was a good decision.
44:2544 minutes, 25 secondsWe were on the front end of it, right?
44:3044 minutes, 30 secondsSo So a lot of lot of them the county is just where do we start? How much can we put into this thing to get started on it?
44:4044 minutes, 40 secondsand we've come up with $500,000 and it's where we are today. So, I think it's been a good investment [clears throat] for our employees.
44:5144 minutes, 51 secondsYeah, we have had employees that have been benefiting from it since its inception,
45:0045 minutesbut we have to look at that at a budget year because that's our budget line. But you have three. No, we can't touch it.
45:0745 minutes, 7 secondsIt's a problem we're having.
45:1045 minutes, 10 secondsmake clear with them that it's not something we could exactly spend.
45:1545 minutes, 15 secondsImagine we had $500,000 put in it, you know, like a lot of money.
45:2445 minutes, 24 secondsYeah. All right. Any more questions? Thank you. Please. Thank you.
45:3345 minutes, 33 secondsThank you.
45:3745 minutes, 37 secondsJust need to stay on All right.
45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsOh, last thing we have for today is records applications. Each one of you have got a packet uh to look over these
45:4945 minutes, 49 secondsand I'm sure everybody has looked over them multi times. Uh I have and everybody else has and there was a
45:5845 minutes, 58 secondsmistake on one of them as far as the county put Smith County instead of us but that we knew who that was who we
46:0646 minutes, 6 secondsare. So, but some good applications and uh do we, you know, I feel like we can eliminate some of these right off the
46:1446 minutes, 14 secondsbat. Uh and get it down to a manageable group
46:1946 minutes, 19 secondsthat we can uh look at and interview because we do have some good applications and I don't think we need to go any search or anything like that.
46:3146 minutes, 31 secondsI don't know how the artist y'all feel about it, but we've got some good applications and we pay somebody 78 $10,000 and not come up any better.
46:4246 minutes, 42 secondsYeah, I agree with that. I don't think at this point we need to hire an outside move on. I think we need to move on. Yeah.
46:5046 minutes, 50 secondsWith what we got. Let's use what we got. Yep.
46:5446 minutes, 54 secondsAgreed. So, and we need to pick time to set up to interview whoever we want to keep to interview because we need to get
47:0147 minutes, 1 seconda letter out to those people and uh to come in.
47:0647 minutes, 6 secondsGot to find a date that works with everybody. I know.
47:0947 minutes, 9 secondsI'd like to see us get a date on the calendar.
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsHey, my thing. Are you thinking a Saturday?
47:1947 minutes, 19 secondsA Saturday. I know basketball is Well, and I'll ask [clears throat] you
47:2847 minutes, 28 secondsthis because you know more about your schedule than uh is there a time during that day that is good for you that
47:3647 minutes, 36 secondsit depends on the week. I mean I already have the schedule so I can Okay.
47:4147 minutes, 41 secondsWhatever Saturday you're looking at, I can kind of tell you the I wrote it down the date I was looking at. We meet in the evening on the Saturday.
47:4947 minutes, 49 secondsDo they have your most games are in the morning?
47:5247 minutes, 52 secondsThey usually are two weeks from this Saturday would put us at February 7th.
47:5947 minutes, 59 secondsYes, that would be does that.
48:0348 minutes, 3 secondsNo, I'm We have an 8:30 game that morning. So, I'm I'm free after 9:15.
48:0848 minutes, 8 secondsThat's good. So, we could give each one of these people enough
48:1448 minutes, 14 secondstime between then and that afternoon to justify that date. Depends on if you're
48:2148 minutes, 21 secondspicking someone that's fairly close to here or if you're going to
48:2948 minutes, 29 secondspick some of these ones that are from out of state.
48:3248 minutes, 32 secondsWe've got one from Virginia. Remember from Arizona? We interviewed that one before.
48:3848 minutes, 38 secondsKelly, we Yeah. And we didn't call back. So, uh, and then we got another one from Arizona.
48:4648 minutes, 46 secondsArizona.
48:4748 minutes, 47 secondsAnd that one. And then the Memphis person.
48:5148 minutes, 51 secondsYeah, Memphis doesn't bother me. That's in the state.
49:0049 minutesBut we got another one in here that doesn't meet the criteria of what we require.
49:0749 minutes, 7 secondsAnd that one could be dropped out.
49:1249 minutes, 12 secondsI think down the road it'll be a good one. But he's uh just has a master in arts and philosophy.
49:2249 minutes, 22 secondswith not much experience teaching or anything else. Worked here
49:2849 minutes, 28 secondsfor a little while May of to August and uh so you know if we if we get rid of a few
49:3649 minutes, 36 secondsof these that we don't really want to call because we have to do that. We have to call these people make they have to make reservations
49:4449 minutes, 44 secondsespecially if they fly in get them here and all that and I hate for them to
49:5149 minutes, 51 secondsif we got better candidates that we can pick closer by.
49:5749 minutes, 57 secondsDoes that sound logical?
50:0050 minutesYeah. Well, I mean the Arizona one I he's just a pr he's a principal, but he
50:0950 minutes, 9 secondsdoesn't really have much to his correction.
50:1350 minutes, 13 secondsYeah, I agree with you, Sherry. He was not on my top. He's not on my He's not in my top. No.
50:2050 minutes, 20 secondsAnd then I think I had Kelly, we didn't invite her back, right?
50:3350 minutes, 33 seconds[clears throat]
50:3450 minutes, 34 secondsDid we invite invite Kelly back the last time? No.
50:3750 minutes, 37 secondsSince we interviewed her, we interviewed her. She clearly wanted it, but we didn't second time.
50:4450 minutes, 44 secondsShe's got experience as a assistant, superintendent.
50:5050 minutes, 50 secondsAnd then the
50:5750 minutes, 57 secondsShelby County guy, he's just been an assistant principal and a teacher. I didn't feel like he had a lot of experience either.
51:0751 minutes, 7 secondsNotice a principal and principal and assistant principal.
51:2151 minutes, 21 secondsI mean that's just my Yeah, I'm a little bit I am too.
51:2651 minutes, 26 secondsI was I was enough intrigued that I would interview especially in state. He kind of understands what's going on in the state of Tennessee with education,
51:3451 minutes, 34 secondsyou know, and the school that he's in and Well, I I had four and that was him,
51:4151 minutes, 41 secondsMarcy Tidwell, uh James Stone, and then uh Melinda Anderson. Yeah, that's the four that I had landed on
51:4951 minutes, 49 secondsthat was just my thought we should start with. I think we we we interviewed this Mr. Stone, didn't he?
51:5951 minutes, 59 secondsHe was from Murphy's and I think we called him back. I think so, too. Yes, he was. Yeah.
52:0552 minutes, 5 secondsAnd he he's he interviewed Well, he's worked in our system before too. Yes.
52:1452 minutes, 14 secondsAnd u I have not checked with uh Leah cuz she's been out. Who's that?
52:2252 minutes, 22 secondsHe's been out. I'm not sure she's back in. Does anybody know she's back to work? She's not.
52:2752 minutes, 27 secondsI agree with Miss Har on those four of y'all. Yeah, I do. I think so.
52:3252 minutes, 32 secondsYou know, if we decide we'd always come back. Yeah. Then we always go back.
52:3652 minutes, 36 secondsBut we got to start somewhere, right?
52:4052 minutes, 40 secondsFour is a good number. and it gives us, you know, we can give adequate time to them.
52:4752 minutes, 47 secondsUm, I just think that's four pretty good ones. Got two ladies, two gentlemen in there to
52:5552 minutes, 55 secondsyou talking about doing the interviews and is what you're saying in two weeks from this Saturday doing interview start bring these four in for interviews.
53:0753 minutes, 7 secondsSo, we probably need if we're going to do that, we probably need to come up with some I don't know how we're going to do it this time if we're going to do
53:1453 minutes, 14 secondsthe same or separately, but there's probably a set of questions we need to the attorney emailed us a set of
53:2253 minutes, 22 secondsquestions, too, that would give us a good starting point to jump from and start being able to discuss with one another.
53:3453 minutes, 34 secondsI like the way we divided up and everybody had a room the last time and every person came to us individually.
53:4453 minutes, 44 secondsThey rotated 30 45 minutes and that was that was okay the way I understand it for that was okay for us to do. And so that
53:5253 minutes, 52 secondswas I think I got a better glimpse of the person when that little one we have 30 what was it 30 minutes. It was 30 minutes per
54:0154 minutes, 1 secondperson per candidate. were counted and uh so and then they would rotate. They would go they would they would go every one of
54:1054 minutes, 10 secondsus would have a room. I think we had room we had room in this building different rooms at East. It was at East.
54:1554 minutes, 15 secondsWell, that was all of them but I thought individ individual east that was east too. Wow.
54:2254 minutes, 22 secondsWe we might do that and then since there's four it would probably go and then I would like to see two maybe each one of them come before the board as a
54:3154 minutes, 31 secondswhole. as a whole questions too, like individually and then maybe have some questions that like each one of us would ask. I don't know whatever y'all think.
54:4054 minutes, 40 secondsBut do you need do you need 30 minutes with it individually? About 15.
54:4554 minutes, 45 secondsThat's what we did. But they got a res but they'll they they wanted it seemed like they needed 30 minutes to go through what they had.
54:5554 minutes, 55 secondsThey're going to give you your they going to bring you some paper. They brought paperwork, resumes, and they like for you to
55:0255 minutes, 2 secondsit it would be hard to squeeze it in 15 minutes. I mean, with respect to them, if they travel that way, you know, they travel,
55:1055 minutes, 10 secondsI don't know, block out, but it would that was the way I saw it.
55:1455 minutes, 14 secondsThey would they was sharing they would sit across from us and they would share they would have their resume with us.
55:2055 minutes, 20 secondsWell, yeah. So, they gave us um stuff like Mr. Stone put in his what he planned to do within the first for like
55:2855 minutes, 28 secondsx amount of days. They all brought in things like that, their own plans and how manager was go about it.
55:3755 minutes, 37 secondsFirst 100 days, what are you going to do? Right.
55:4055 minutes, 40 secondsBut we could also have them present that to us as a board first and then do the, you know, and then the individual interviews. We could save a little time
55:4955 minutes, 49 secondsif they've already presented it and then we have questions specific to that. That way they're not presenting it seven different times. They're presenting at
55:5755 minutes, 57 secondsonce and then we can ask our own personal questions based on that. That's a good idea. That's a good idea.
56:0656 minutes, 6 secondsIt takes a little pressure off of them.
56:0756 minutes, 7 secondsI mean, they're presenting at once versus Would you would you have all four of them in the room listen to each other?
56:1356 minutes, 13 secondsNo, I would have one at a time come in, right? Yeah. Gotcha. I mean, they could get a schedule of an inter I mean, we could come up with a schedule of here's
56:2156 minutes, 21 secondsyour time to meet with the whole board and then that's kind of what we did when we did that thing at the high school, right?
56:2956 minutes, 29 secondsThey kept them they came out one at a time and then they all came out together. Yeah.
56:3456 minutes, 34 secondsUm, that was the last That was the last thing. Yeah, that was the last thing we Yeah.
56:3956 minutes, 39 secondsOh, that let them let them talk to the board. let them talk to all of us at one time and then do 15 20 minutes as an
56:4856 minutes, 48 secondsindividual to that's going to and that way they only have to say what they're going to say once instead of
56:5756 minutes, 57 secondsseven times and then you then if you want to ask something specific then they can they can speak to that.
57:0357 minutes, 3 secondsYou got that and you got that oneonone time to clarify. I like that idea. Sounds good.
57:1357 minutes, 13 secondsSo check on
57:2057 minutes, 20 secondsit said Philip Nelson is the gentleman from
57:2757 minutes, 27 secondsBartlett James.
57:4057 minutes, 40 secondsOkay. All right. So, we'll put these four together. We will I'll
57:4757 minutes, 47 secondsget a letter and get them to you and you will write them
57:5557 minutes, 55 secondsup a type up a letter to them and send it to them by mail instead of I think more personal than an email.
58:0358 minutes, 3 secondsAnd if that sounds I think Yeah. But I think you need to send them an email and give them the date. Oh, yeah. I'm not keep
58:1058 minutes, 10 secondsWell, I think even the ones you're going to interview, you need to send them an email about the date. Let's see if that works.
58:1658 minutes, 16 secondsAre we going with the seventh? Are we going with the seven? Started. That's pretty quick.
58:2358 minutes, 23 seconds[laughter]
58:2558 minutes, 25 secondsWell, I mean, your next option is the 14th.
58:2758 minutes, 27 secondsI don't know cuz I'm supposed to have it. Oh, yeah.
58:3258 minutes, 32 secondsBut they may cancel it because they called me today and said, "Be there at 9:00 unless we call you if If we're going to camp, we'll call you Monday to
58:3958 minutes, 39 secondstell you whether it 14th because of the weather Valentine's Day.
58:4358 minutes, 43 secondsI don't get mess not going to mess mine up. I wouldn't say that.
58:5158 minutes, 51 secondsIt might mess the candidate out.
58:5258 minutes, 52 secondsThat's what I wonder. It's also ordering a three-day weekend. Like I know I've looked at I looked at going out of town for a three-day weekend which I mean we
59:0059 minuteshaven't booked anything but Well, so do this. If if we're if we think the seventh, why don't you call these people?
59:0759 minutes, 7 secondsI can call them and see if the seventh would work for all of them. I mean, you call them tomorrow.
59:1459 minutes, 14 secondsI do that tomorrow.
59:1759 minutes, 17 secondsI think if they want it bad enough, they'll be Yeah, I agree. I mean, because it's an I mean, even like us, we're all looking at schedules like, can we do that day? I
59:2559 minutes, 25 secondsmean, it's the same thing. If you want it bad enough, you'll and and we kind of we we got to get on this because I think y'all hired Mr.
59:3359 minutes, 33 secondsMullins in March, which gave him time to be involved in the budget. Yeah. So, our clock is ticking.
59:4259 minutes, 42 secondsTicking away. Yeah. Close.
59:4659 minutes, 46 secondsYeah. I mean, Memphis is the farthest away and that's driving on this side of Memphis. What time? 10. I could be there by 10.
59:5559 minutes, 55 seconds10. Okay.
1:00:001 hourAnd then I'll send them an email here. Here. Okay.
1:00:051 hour, 5 secondsAnd get that started. And then also on if they call and res if they cancel my surgery, I'll I'll rescheduled after.
1:00:151 hour, 15 secondsOkay. That day.
1:00:181 hour, 18 secondsSo, what we're going to do is we're going to have So, we're going to be here. We're going to bring in all the people first, then we're going to split off.
1:00:281 hour, 28 secondsAre we going to come back and then narrow them down further?
1:00:331 hour, 33 secondsAt that point, we can or we can put it off some other time. I think we should go ahead and do that.
1:00:381 hour, 38 secondsGo ahead and narrow them down after we talk maybe. I mean, that's just an idea.
1:00:431 hour, 43 secondsI think that's what we did. Otherwise, we narrowed it down off the bat. Yeah.
1:00:481 hour, 48 secondsI'd like to do that while it's fresh on our mind.
1:00:501 hour, 50 secondsYeah. Yeah. meet after we've all disc like and be able to have a discussion. I slept a couple nights up to happen.
1:00:571 hour, 57 seconds[laughter]
1:00:581 hour, 58 secondsSo, it's going to be an all day thing.
1:00:591 hour, 59 secondsSo, you need to tell the candidates that we don't know what time it's going to end.
1:01:041 hour, 1 minute, 4 secondsWe'll get out of here and have some lunch. Yeah. We might have to have supper.
1:01:121 hour, 1 minute, 12 seconds[laughter]
1:01:131 hour, 1 minute, 13 secondsWell, I mean, if we give them a schedule, too, we could, you know, it'll take probably two hours to start just to get everybody through presenting to us,
1:01:221 hour, 1 minute, 22 secondssend everybody to lunch for an hour and bring, you know, and I think we had more than four at least right at first.
1:01:301 hour, 1 minute, 30 secondsWe watched a lot of We did lunch.
1:01:351 hour, 1 minute, 35 secondsYeah, we should do We should do lunch for the candidates. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Can we order something?
1:01:441 hour, 1 minute, 44 secondsTake care of the food. They they know.
1:01:451 hour, 1 minute, 45 secondsOh, yeah. So, I bet Lanas would would do something. Or fish camp. Yeah.
1:01:531 hour, 1 minute, 53 secondsThat's a day they cater a lot. So, we have to ask. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever y'all deal with. Yeah.
1:02:001 hour, 2 minutesI think that would be the I think that would be good. Feed the candidate. And that gives us a little time with them too while you eat. And
1:02:101 hour, 2 minutes, 10 secondsyeah, that's what we did at the high school. Yeah.
1:02:141 hour, 2 minutes, 14 secondsSo you're So all four of them between 10 [snorts] and lunch are going to speak to us as a group
1:02:211 hour, 2 minutes, 21 secondsand then have lunch and then do the individuals.
1:02:251 hour, 2 minutes, 25 secondsAfter that, I think you can tell them you've got you're going to give a 30 minute present presentation about yourself. Sell yourself in 30 minutes.
1:02:341 hour, 2 minutes, 34 secondsor less or less [laughter] up to or less.
1:02:391 hour, 2 minutes, 39 secondsAnd then the public gets to see all of that, too. So, they're going to get to hear what we hear then out here. Yes.
1:02:471 hour, 2 minutes, 47 secondsAnd instead of doing that in and so they sell themselves to not only us, they sell themselves to the public.
1:02:591 hour, 2 minutes, 59 secondsyou know, the individual thing. That's just the way the the team we was it called team that we hire
1:03:081 hour, 3 minutes, 8 secondswith Mr. Paul. That's what he recommended. So that's why I'm going about I think that's a good idea. I just think instead of having them do it that many
1:03:161 hour, 3 minutes, 16 secondstimes, just have them do it once and then I mean we all have different interest. I mean, I think we all share a goal for our students, but we all have different interest on what we're going
1:03:251 hour, 3 minutes, 25 secondsto ask a superintendent, you know, like Right.
1:03:291 hour, 3 minutes, 29 secondsThey're all, you know, projects that we would like to see. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
1:03:431 hour, 3 minutes, 43 secondsYeah. Goodbody. All right.
1:03:491 hour, 3 minutes, 49 secondsYou have to believe the seven and you're going to let us you going to confirm with us.
1:03:541 hour, 3 minutes, 54 secondsYou going to confirm what you've talked to them on? Yep. Okay.
1:03:591 hour, 3 minutes, 59 secondsI'll get back to get a hold of them. All right.
1:04:171 hour, 4 minutes, 17 secondsSo long. Okay.
1:04:231 hour, 4 minutes, 23 secondsIf there's not anything else, I'd love to make announcements. Okay.
1:04:271 hour, 4 minutes, 27 secondsI think we should do one one more thing before we close that. Sorry. Um I think we should do a tenative date in case of
1:04:341 hour, 4 minutes, 34 secondssnow on the 7th. That way we can go ahead and let the candidates know.
1:04:421 hour, 4 minutes, 42 secondsWhat was the problem?
1:04:441 hour, 4 minutes, 44 secondsSounds like I'm not. Believe me. I'm just saying it snows a lot between now and the end of February.
1:04:511 hour, 4 minutes, 51 secondsOh, it does. February is a big month. Get your calendar out. It snows Monday. It may not clear up.
1:04:571 hour, 4 minutes, 57 secondsI was going to say there may All right, Tim. What's another date you might look at? I can always remember that.
1:05:031 hour, 5 minutes, 3 secondsI mean, I would skip Valentine's weekend with a three-day weekend. 21st.
1:05:091 hour, 5 minutes, 9 secondsSo, we're going to call that the Sher's backup snow day.
1:05:131 hour, 5 minutes, 13 seconds[laughter]
1:05:151 hour, 5 minutes, 15 secondsWell, I just think it's better to go ahead and let the candidates know of the backup date in case.
1:05:231 hour, 5 minutes, 23 secondsYeah, we had to drive down here. Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't come. It was snow day.
1:05:281 hour, 5 minutes, 28 secondsSame time. [laughter] Tabitha. Same time. No, not coming out of my place.
1:05:331 hour, 5 minutes, 33 secondsOkay. Now, I will not be seeking a second term in school. It's got nothing to do with this anything that's happened or anything.
1:05:431 hour, 5 minutes, 43 secondsIt's just personal. So, I will not be out to let y'all know. I have been telling people in my district and talking to them and I sign I signed
1:05:511 hour, 5 minutes, 51 secondspapers for a county commissioner in the fifth district uh uh when yeah.
1:05:591 hour, 5 minutes, 59 secondsBut uh anyway, so I but uh but uh I'll be glad to help anybody that wants to. I've enjoyed it and I'm
1:06:071 hour, 6 minutes, 7 secondsbut I'm gonna work hard until August and then then uh but that will I will not be running this year. Okay. I was going to
1:06:141 hour, 6 minutes, 14 secondstell us the last time and everybody brought them nice box of goodies in.
1:06:171 hour, 6 minutes, 17 seconds[laughter]
1:06:191 hour, 6 minutes, 19 secondsI was going to say it that I was doing announcements and they it was a board appreciation and I had that big box of gift. I said I just can't say it tonight. [laughter] But but uh but
1:06:281 hour, 6 minutes, 28 secondsanyway, but I'll be around for two August.
1:06:311 hour, 6 minutes, 31 secondsWe're just going to flip over to the other side. Boy, if you're going to run for county commissioner, say you just No, no, no, no, no. I signed his papers.
1:06:391 hour, 6 minutes, 39 secondsOh, no. I've not signed I did. I'm sorry.
1:06:411 hour, 6 minutes, 41 secondsI thought you said you were going to run for No, I'm not running. I signed my county commissioner's papers for him. My days of politics are over.
1:06:511 hour, 6 minutes, 51 secondsBut, uh, anyway, but that but I'm going to work hard and give it all I got with the the new director in the but
1:06:591 hour, 6 minutes, 59 seconds[cough] I know it's been fun working with you and Well, I'm not gone yet. I still got some cake and stuff coming in August.
1:07:051 hour, 7 minutes, 5 seconds[laughter] So if B will get some cake then I hope V is L. But Oscar gets August in 28. I'm not running again.
1:07:181 hour, 7 minutes, 18 secondsThat's I'll make it to that motion. Make a motion to adjourn.
1:07:251 hour, 7 minutes, 25 secondsHave a second. Second. All in favor say I. I
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