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4:504 minutes, 50 secondsVance Willis present presid County four we have a
4:584 minutes, 58 secondsfor uh one of the main things that we had for this meeting tonight with Jody Barrett he's uh he's here with
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5:445 minutes, 44 secondstime to the central office just try
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5:585 minutes, 58 secondsit Rebo fixes 90% of
6:056 minutes, 5 secondsall he's saying that that's what I used to do at their office get it to still thinking at least
6:146 minutes, 14 secondsthat's rather than being dead I guess that's good okay that's most of it is J have a
6:246 minutes, 24 secondsmoment start out with a moment of silence please
6:346 minutes, 34 secondsthank you pledge of
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6:396 minutes, 39 secondsallegiance to of the United States of America to the
6:486 minutes, 48 secondsstand indivisible andice as I stated uh we have a guest
6:586 minutes, 58 secondsspeaker tonight he want to tell about I guess it's a two-way conversation kind of what you're going to tell us about
7:057 minutes, 5 secondsthe freedom uh education Freedom Act and um you want to just introduce yourself
7:137 minutes, 13 secondsthere a little bit sure I think you're probably looking right at the AL okay and go ahead so I'm state representative
7:207 minutes, 20 secondsJody Barrett and I wanted to come down and share with you all uh a definitely a two-way conversation about what's going
7:297 minutes, 29 secondson on in the state legislature as it relates to the governor's plan to create uh educational scholarships uh they
7:377 minutes, 37 secondsdon't like the the word vouchers uh in Nashville so but feel free to call them whatever you like uh for purposes of
7:447 minutes, 44 secondsthis conversation but the the scholarship that that the governor proposed late last year I believe
7:527 minutes, 52 secondsNovember or so that he he came out and announced that that's what his intention was for this legislative session is now kind of moving the tracks as we kind of
8:018 minutes, 1 secondRumble towards the end of session here in the next six weeks this is going to be something that's going to start becoming more and more of a Hot Topic
8:088 minutes, 8 secondsissue and and my intent with these meetings with each of the three uh School boards in my district is to make
8:158 minutes, 15 secondssure that we are all on the same page uh I want to be be able one to answer the questions that you all have uh but also
8:238 minutes, 23 secondsgive you the information that you need so that you can make informed decisions about whether or not you support this or don't supported uh I know a lot of
8:318 minutes, 31 secondsschool boards and and directors have been putting out uh resolutions or letters supporting or or opposing
8:388 minutes, 38 secondsvouchers and so uh I wanted I thought it was important that we had a conversation to see that there are really two completely different approaches to this
8:478 minutes, 47 secondsuh and so this this graphic that I've created we can go by line by line and see kind of the different approaches between what the Senate is doing on
8:568 minutes, 56 secondstheir side of the house and what the the house is is proposing to do before I get into that uh just for anybody that's
9:049 minutes, 4 secondswatching and then for just a little bit of of remedial work here for you guys on how a bill has to pass both the house
9:139 minutes, 13 secondsand the Senate have to adopt a bill and they have to adopt the same bill unless and what happens when they adopt two
9:219 minutes, 21 secondsdifferent versions of a bill it will end up going to conference and one side or the other is going to have to adopt and
9:289 minutes, 28 secondsconform uh to the other version and so the point that we're at now is both of these bills are are getting into the
9:379 minutes, 37 secondsfinance committee stage of things they haven't reached the floor of either the senate or the house and so I think our leadership at this point is trying to
9:459 minutes, 45 secondspump the brakes and start having some negotiations now rather than wait for us to get to the floor and vote on and
9:539 minutes, 53 secondspotentially pass two completely different versions of this Bild and then because the problem with that is when
10:0110 minutes, 1 secondthat happens and it goes into the conference committee the conference committee only consists of a small number of members that are appointed by
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsthe two speakers of the of the Senate and the house and that all gets worked out kind of behind closed doors instead of right out in the open on the floor
10:1810 minutes, 18 secondslike like we've been doing through this committee process and so when they come out of conference they may come out with
10:2610 minutes, 26 secondssomething completely different than what we have voted for on the house or than what the Senate has voted for and then you have a very short period of time as
10:3310 minutes, 33 secondsa member to try to comprehend what the changes are and decide whether or not you're going to vote yes or no on those
10:4110 minutes, 41 secondschanges so we would all I think like to avoid that kind of rushed process at the end where something is coming out of
10:4910 minutes, 49 secondsconference that may be completely different than what we've been discussing this entire time so that's where we're at now uh our I think
10:5810 minutes, 58 secondsleadership on both sides are starting to have those conversations and over the next couple of weeks I think those will take place and so you know this is this
11:0711 minutes, 7 secondsis the information that we have as of today of what these bills look like so I got a quick question so whatever comes
11:1511 minutes, 15 secondsout of conference still has to be voted on right it voted up or down or well I take that it may be that nothing comes
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsout of conference it may be that neither side agrees to capitulate and we just agree to disagree and nothing happens
11:3011 minutes, 30 secondsthe bills the bills just die so it can just die and C it's very possible that that may happen uh now as a political person that
11:3911 minutes, 39 secondshas to run for a reelection this summer I'd really rather not have to vote on something that's not doesn't have a chance of passing because then you get
11:4711 minutes, 47 secondsbeat up over a vote on something that doesn't really have any effect so I think there's a lot of people up there that are hoping that we can get all this
11:5511 minutes, 55 secondsworked out before we get put in a position of having to vote on something that may or may not even pass so so I'll
12:0312 minutes, 3 secondsjust go over the the we'll start with the education Freedom scholarship accounts that's the main beat of this that the governor has has proposed and
12:1112 minutes, 11 secondsthis is really what he announced and the only thing that he's asked the Senate to really do and so what you're going to
12:1812 minutes, 18 secondssee as we scroll down through here a lot of green yeses on the house side and a lot of red noes on the Senate side
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsso the Senate uh for For Better or Worse what their their approach to this is the
12:3412 minutes, 34 secondsgovernor has only asked us to adopt a scholarship program and fund that he hasn't asked us to do anything else the
12:4212 minutes, 42 secondshouse is saying well yeah but we can do all of these other things too for for schools part of that is politically we
12:5012 minutes, 50 secondshad 99 members where they only have 33 so when you have to get to 50 votes and many of us represent rural school
12:5812 minutes, 58 secondsdistricts that don't have private schools for kids to go to anyway a program that gives $7,000 to students in
13:0613 minutes, 6 secondsthose districts doesn't really help them if they don't have anywhere to spend that money so part of what I think the house is is trying to do is use this
13:1413 minutes, 14 secondsopportunity that the that the governor has presented as a means to get a lot of things that the school systems have been asking for for a while particularly the
13:2213 minutes, 22 secondsrural school systems so let's jump into the scholarship thing first right off the bat for this plan that the governor's rolled out in year one is a
13:3013 minutes, 30 secondsis it's going to be limited to 20,000 students that's about 2% of the public school student population in the state
13:3813 minutes, 38 secondsof Tennessee both both the house and the Senate versions are pretty much adopting all of these basic Provisions it will be
13:4613 minutes, 46 secondsscaled in an eligibility uh priority so there's going to be three ways of this the first students that would be
13:5313 minutes, 53 secondseligible to apply for the scholarship would be uh students who are eligible for an education account under the current law after that you have students
14:0314 minutes, 3 secondsin a household at 400% or below the federal poverty level uh which is equates about
14:0914 minutes, 9 seconds120,000 a year for a family of four and then the third priority is students in a household at 500% or below the federal
14:1814 minutes, 18 secondsproperty level $150,000 annually for a family of four and then after that anyone that's uh in a household of 500%
14:2614 minutes, 26 secondsof the poverty level or above so that's where kind of the end of the agreement is between the house and the
14:3414 minutes, 34 secondsSenate with as it relates to that part of the scholarship now again y'all probably heard the numbers it's based on teens of funding and and what the cost
14:4314 minutes, 43 secondsof the student is so this this program is going to cost the state about $144 million and it equates to about seven a
14:5114 minutes, 51 secondslittle over $7,000 in a scholarship that can be applied for but I so but you're
14:5814 minutes, 58 secondssaying saying that but that money's that'll come out of P yes and no okay all right so this is a
15:0815 minutes, 8 secondsbrand new pot of money this is not coming out of Tisa in fact budget but it's but it's based on first pupil there
15:1715 minutes, 17 secondsthere would be a delay in a in the effect of a student leaving the school system because your Tissa funding is based on the the enrollment numbers at
15:2715 minutes, 27 secondsthe end of the school year the prior School school year right and so the the the 144 million that's being
15:3415 minutes, 34 secondscreated for this program is a new pot of money that's coming out of the budget and there's also another 266 million
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsthat's being included in in the governor's budget to go directly into Tissa funding so there's actually an
15:4915 minutes, 49 secondsincrease in Tissa funding in this budget okay all right so we are not defunding Public Schools the first year the first
15:5715 minutes, 57 secondsyear correct is it is it just to see if I understand this right so the only effect to the funding that public
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondsschools get would just be if the enrollment went down correct right which is which could happen if someone decides to home school right now or decides to
16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsput the kids private you're absolutely correct that's the only way that our funding would be affected is if the enrollment change so as we sit here in
16:2116 minutes, 21 secondsCLE what you have to evaluate is with this program what is the likelihood what what could you project as uh a
16:3116 minutes, 31 secondspercentage of students or how many students that you think would take advantage of it to then have to drive to Columbia or Dixon or Nashville to to go
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondsto a private school chances are it's probably a pretty small number yeah I don't I don't have anybody know so it's 7,000 a
16:4716 minutes, 47 secondsyear I mean what would it cost someone that's not going to cover it 100% so what does it typically cost if someone puts their their child it's all over the
16:5616 minutes, 56 secondsboard let's say columia right yeah so so
17:0617 minutes, 6 secondsso I think you're going to you're going to look at something on the low end of like a United Christian Academy in Dixon or a Zion Christian in Colombia all the
17:1517 minutes, 15 secondsway up to nworth yeah you know which is point point being point being this is this is not going to 100%
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondspay it will not it will not it is limited to 20,000 students and it's not going to cover 100 % of anybody's cost
17:3017 minutes, 30 secondsstill going to require their parents to Pony $5,000 at minimum per year right correct okay yeah so again that's that's
17:3817 minutes, 38 secondsthe other part of this is that since it's not 100% covering the cost even some of the families and students that might want to take advantage of it still
17:4617 minutes, 46 secondsnot may not be able to financially but don't that a this is what I'm hearing I'm hearing that you know uh that heard
17:5417 minutes, 54 secondsit tonight Deion that someone that is a millionaire or get or is that correct they'll get
18:0218 minutes, 2 secondsthis money so so 20,000 can if if these people in the top tiers can't come up
18:1018 minutes, 10 secondswith that other five then that makes more available for wealthier families to send their kids to private school on the
18:1918 minutes, 19 secondstaxpayers money I mean I think I read under year one that they would not be eligible unless the first until until
18:2718 minutes, 27 secondsfirst three priority levels are expended yeah and so if the if the positions aren't filled with those first three
18:3418 minutes, 34 secondspriorities they don't have the money correct then there's a chance that that there's some folks out there in that fourth priority that would be able to
18:4218 minutes, 42 secondstake whatever's left I'm going tell electric fish too that's what I I heard it again just while ago from somebody well respect I don't want to call her
18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsname but they uh they that's what they told me that they felt like that was going to a lot a lot of this didn't
18:5718 minutes, 57 secondsthink it was fair that it would someone that is wealthy that could afford to pay it would be getting this money so who's
19:0419 minutes, 4 secondsprobably already putting their kid in private school to begin with right me we'll just be giving them we'll just be giving them 7,000 toward that and then
19:1319 minutes, 13 secondslike we said what is true is that a lot of these students won't be able to go in these lower income brackets then that'll
19:2119 minutes, 21 secondsjust be more of that 20,000 will be pushed down to people that has the money that's correct and and let's let's be
19:2819 minutes, 28 secondsclear the governor has has been very open with his intent that he wants this eventually to this program to be
19:3519 minutes, 35 secondsavailable to all students without any without that is his intent to get to that point at some point down has a year
19:4519 minutes, 45 secondstwo quota like 20,000 is the quota for year one as a year two quota been set there we're going to get into that there are some limitations that the house is
19:5319 minutes, 53 secondstrying to put in place to limit that growth and and essenti I I'll jump to it now since you ask question the house is
20:0020 minutesis putting in a 20% cap on the growth year after year so in year two the most you could see is an additional 4,000
20:0820 minutes, 8 secondsstudents available and so on and so forth so that's what the house is trying to build in three 30 we're really trying to put in some bumper rails that if this
20:1720 minutes, 17 secondsthing's going to pass and it's going to get pushed through that we want to be able to put some guidelines in place that still protects the school system
20:2620 minutes, 26 secondsand make and also protects the budget of the state yeah Jody go ahead my question is Knoxville and Memphis already do this
20:3420 minutes, 34 secondscorrect so there is a vouchers and and esas are different so there is a voucher program that's in Shel available in
20:4220 minutes, 42 secondsShelby Davidson uh Hamilton and Knox County okay so they're not included in thatr this is a different program okay
20:5120 minutes, 51 secondsyeah so and realistically you said if the only way to affect our funding is if um students decrease but if students
21:0121 minutes, 1 secondpull out to go to private school that's a decrease in students so that year two or three you're going to
21:0921 minutes, 9 secondsrealize that that funding difference based on your enrollment that's correct so the people that are are pro voucher
21:1821 minutes, 18 secondsare are going to respond to that and saying well you're not having to teach those kids they're not they're not in your classroom so it it all sets that
21:2621 minutes, 26 secondsway I understand that it doesn't necessar work like that dollar for dollar so but I'm not picking a one way
21:3421 minutes, 34 secondsor the other I'm just telling you what's what's out there that's correct I'm the messenger at this point so now we start getting into some of the differences and
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondswhat the house has identified as issues that that we're hearing back from constituents that we want to address in
21:5121 minutes, 51 secondsour version of this bill so first of all is is the availability to US citizens so as you all know is a public school
21:5821 minutes, 58 secondssystem uh Supreme Court cases and Federal Law requires us to educate everyone um and so this program in the
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondshouse side the way it's being created it's it's almost being treated more like an entitlement program and entitlements as you know are not available to
22:1722 minutes, 17 secondsnon-citizens so we have a a provision in there that it would only be available to US citizens um after that The Homeschool
22:2622 minutes, 26 secondsstudents there was a big put from The Homeschool community that they did not want to be included in this program and their fear is very similar
22:3522 minutes, 35 secondsto the discussion we've had about the money coming from the federal department of education is that once you start taking the money that there's generally always going to follow some sort of
22:4422 minutes, 44 secondsgovernment oversight or strings attached to that and so the homeschoolers would rather everyone just forget they exist and leave them alone and that include
22:5322 minutes, 53 secondscategory three and category four yes and so that's the at first if you look on the bill on the website right now there
23:0023 minuteswas an exclusion for homeschoolers that did not cover all of the types of homeschools right so we had to go back and get that amended to make sure that
23:0923 minutes, 9 secondsit does cover all of them so so how did you learn that homeschoolers didn't want this is this well I am one I'm a homeschool dad that's part that's part
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondsof it but there's there are organizations out there for The Homeschool okay Community uh the hom School legal defense Association The Homeschool uh I forget what they are
23:2723 minutes, 27 secondsTennessee pH hdla so okay so there are organizations that kind of advocate and and speak on behalf of the entire or and
23:3523 minutes, 35 secondsthat's the reason one the house version correct and and the Senate has elected not to address that because the governor
23:4323 minutes, 43 secondswants it to be available to homeschoolers and the the mindset is is that this is their tax dollars too they pay the money in they ought to be able
23:5123 minutes, 51 secondsto use it for their educational purposes um how that's going to work and how you limit to how that money is spent what
23:5923 minutes, 59 secondsit's spent on those are the details I think that'll have to be worked out in the Senate side of things um next thing
24:0724 minutes, 7 secondsyou've got is with the exception of the category one schools this would only uh only be available in non-public schools
24:1524 minutes, 15 secondsthat have been accredited and operational in Tennessee for three years so what we're trying to do here is
24:2224 minutes, 22 secondsprevent this popup school and just a a rash of of private schools popping up all over the state that aren't accredited and haven't established
24:3024 minutes, 30 secondsthemselves and so there is a limitation there that they would have to have been accredited and then in operation for at least three years in order to be
24:3724 minutes, 37 secondseligible to participate in the scholarship program after that uh of course everybody wants to make say that we're
24:4624 minutes, 46 secondsall just in it for the money up there in the legislature and we're all getting rich off of this $288,000 a year that I made to do this job uh so we we on the
24:5524 minutes, 55 secondshouse side recognize that that that could be a stumbling blocked to some people so we just said hey we're not eligible our kids we can't apply for
25:0325 minutes, 3 secondsthis uh either members of the general assembly or the governor's cabinet and then we wanted to require a some sort of
25:1225 minutes, 12 secondsaccountability uh report back to the legislature so that we can see a how is this being program being used um is the
25:2125 minutes, 21 secondsmoney being spent properly all of those things and so we're in the house side we're requiring that that the department
25:2825 minutes, 28 secondseducation report back to us annually so that we can get all the details as to how this this program is actually working uh again that's one of the the
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsdiscussions about the vot the voucher program is is it even working is it is it meeting the needs of the students that it was designed to to address and
25:4525 minutes, 45 secondsso that's what we want to do if this is going to happen we want to make sure that we have some checks and balances in so your intent would be to uh the house
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondsversion to audit any entity out there that would qualify for this allow it allow it to be audited like we are as a
26:0326 minutes, 3 secondspublic school that's correct the department of Ed is going to have to oversee These funds in the scholarship program and so since they're they're paying the money out they're going to
26:1126 minutes, 11 secondshave to come back and report to the legislature every year is where the money is going and how it's being spent will there be instructional assessments
26:1826 minutes, 18 secondslike we have in public school at this point no I don't think so I don't think we're the the house is not looking to
26:2526 minutes, 25 secondsadd uh to make the the private school is more like public schools as we get into some of the other things here I think we're wanting to go the opposite
26:3326 minutes, 33 secondsdirection and take away some of the burdens that the public schools have been facing with testing and some other things so we'll get into that as well as
26:4126 minutes, 41 secondswe move down through this through this list without trying to get into the politics what are some of the reasons the Senate would not want that that
26:5026 minutes, 50 secondsdoesn't even make any sense I'm not on the Senate sir and I do not speak for them
26:5926 minutes, 59 secondsno my understanding was that that meant that they were silent on or are they opposed to think of it
27:0827 minutes, 8 secondsthis way if you gave your auto mechanics class two chassis to start with and we
27:1627 minutes, 16 secondsboth and you said half the class takes one the other half takes the other one class just reads the instructions and
27:2427 minutes, 24 secondssays build a car and they put the wheels the tires the engine everything together and when they get done it's a basic car
27:3127 minutes, 31 secondsand it's operational the house is making a hot lot right so it doesn't mean that someone proposed in the Senate why don't
27:3927 minutes, 39 secondswe do XYZ and they said they agreed no they just made the basic C they just didn't make they said the the house or
27:4727 minutes, 47 secondsthe Senate says the governor asks for x and we're going to give the governor X we're going to vote on x um the house says oh yeah that's cool let's see what
27:5627 minutes, 56 secondselse we can do with it right X Plus I don't think that means that the Senate specifically said no it just means that
28:0428 minutes, 4 secondsthey were silent that's where the negotiations start coming down between the house and the Senate to decide what
28:1028 minutes, 10 secondsparts of our that what portions of our ideas that they're willing to accept and go on with two different entities inde
28:1828 minutes, 18 secondsworking on something all right so next up you asked about Tissa funding so again you're going to see nose on the
28:2628 minutes, 26 secondsSenate side and and it's not that they're like you said they're they're not declining to do this it's just that they're not proposing to do it and we
28:3428 minutes, 34 secondsare so on the house side we want to increase the weight for a student in a small district from 5% to 8% so that's
28:4328 minutes, 43 secondsgoing from essentially $350 a student 560 a student so again what we're realizing and what the house is trying
28:4928 minutes, 49 secondsto do is say look we understand that this could have some detrimental impact and so to offset that we're going to
28:5728 minutes, 57 secondsincre inre the funding formula that's used on tssa so that it takes that issue off the table but by definition of the
29:0729 minutes, 7 secondshouse proposal a small district is any district with 1,000 children or less that's correct so that would not
29:1429 minutes, 14 secondshave when we get done I'm about to show you hard numbers for Hickman County you'll you'll be able to see exactly what the impact is for you locally here
29:2329 minutes, 23 secondsI've got those I've got those projections for you thank um yes sir so and then we want to create a new
29:2929 minutes, 29 secondscategory for districts with 1,1 to 1700 students and add an additional 2% of weight for those students then we get
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsinto the weight for a sparse District again 5% to 6% and then here's the one I think you may like is we want to add $75
29:4729 minutes, 47 secondsper student for an infrastructure stien uh that will increase local Revenue to the districts by approximately $ 72.9
29:5529 minutes, 55 secondsmillion in year one now what this is is all the costs of of Maintenance of your buildings your hvacs everything that you
30:0330 minutes, 3 secondsall have to find and scratch and Claw to find some way to fund to fix those things $75 per student every year is
30:1030 minutes, 10 secondsgoing to be coming to the district to help you maintain your your infrastructure uh your fiscal
30:2030 minutes, 20 secondsplans make sense yes okay now standardized testing again another issue
30:2730 minutes, 27 secondsthat separates the public schools from from the private schools and what the house is looking at is saying well if
30:3530 minutes, 35 secondswe're going to start putting some money out there that's going to end up in the public or in the private school sector let's make it more competitive and a
30:4330 minutes, 43 secondslittle bit easier for the the public schools to keep up and so we want to reduce testing and make it make the testing requirements because right now I
30:5130 minutes, 51 secondsthink you guys are doing what 15 plus tests a year is that right across K2 yeah that
30:5930 minutes, 59 secondswould be close yes yeah so that's obviously that's eating up instructional time classroom time and you're spending the teachers are spending far too much
31:0831 minutes, 8 secondstime focusing on the test and the results of that instead of just instructions so 15 what does that mean
31:1531 minutes, 15 seconds15 standardized tests standardized test per per student I let John talk
31:2331 minutes, 23 secondsabout that in grades 3 through eight they they all take the TCAP test which is math language arts science and
31:3331 minutes, 33 secondssocial studies some of them take social studies right yeah and then algebra one Algebra 2 geometry have an end of course
31:4131 minutes, 41 secondstest US History has an end of course test oh so it's not 15 test per
31:4731 minutes, 47 secondsstudent it's 15 test across the so and the response to this is we're
31:5531 minutes, 55 secondsestimating that with the reduction is to add approximately 300 hours of instructional time back into the classroom which your teachers have been
32:0432 minutes, 4 secondsbegging for um then we want to take and use the ACT Testing to meet Federal requirements so that gets us out of the
32:1332 minutes, 13 secondsTCAP mind field that we're in right now is you out of the end of course test gets rid of the end of course testing that you don't have to deal with that
32:2132 minutes, 21 secondsanymore um and then provide the ACT work keys for technical education seniors beyond the 23 24 school year so that's
32:2932 minutes, 29 secondsthat's the testing portion of this again this is the house saying if we're going to do this this this scholarship deal
32:3832 minutes, 38 secondshere's the things that we need to give to this the public school system that makes this a little more pable moving beyond that here's your
32:4732 minutes, 47 secondsprotections that we're building into it students that would be transferring into a public school in the second semester would not be counted against that public
32:5632 minutes, 56 secondsschool scores so that's one of the things that you all are having to deal with now when you you're getting graded based on the student scores and you get
33:0433 minutes, 4 secondsa student that's moved in from somewhere else that has that you've not been responsible for that he's he or she is reflecting on your school scores so this
33:1333 minutes, 13 secondswill not counted issue if they move into the second half of the school year yeah there's some um interesting guidelines
33:2033 minutes, 20 secondsuh we uh we've had an influx of elll students in especially in the eastern part of our County so so we got a child
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondsright before Christmas who was a non-english speaking Spanish speaking student and by Tennessee guidelines he was required to take the ACT test in
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondsMarch and uh that's just that's just tough on the child which which counts as your Collective which counts all to all
33:4533 minutes, 45 secondsthe accountability measures we're gauged as a district so there are some interesting guidelines like that correct so we're trying to take some of that
33:5433 minutes, 54 secondsaway as well that would be good uh one of the things that people were concerned about particularly in the Suburban areas
34:0134 minutes, 1 secondis the recruiting of athletes and and using this $7,000 scholarship for start plucking all the best quarterbacks and
34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsrunning backs from from our public schools and so uh the house said hey we're going to put the same uh eligibility standards in here about
34:1534 minutes, 15 secondsathletic transfers sit out a year all of that as well so so if you take the scholarship you're going to have to sit out a year regardless of what the twaa
34:2434 minutes, 24 secondssays even for currently TW s AA guidelines allows a ninth grade or transfer right so so you're it's going
34:3334 minutes, 33 secondsto mirror the same yeah and then the last thing here is to dissolve the achievement School District by
34:4134 minutes, 41 seconds2026 so that that would no longer be an issue and I don't know if that affects you all or not
34:4934 minutes, 49 secondsbut I I mean at the risk of sound stupid what is that CH SC District are your low
34:5734 minutes, 57 seconds5% of Performing schools and yeah we we we have the pleasure of being one school
35:0535 minutes, 5 secondsis part of that so what is that what is dissolving that mean for us
35:1235 minutes, 12 secondsthen we're not in it I uh dissolving it would give us the freedom to correct the school on our own without the threat of
35:2135 minutes, 21 secondsState takeover but dissolving it may also reduce the additional funding we get to assist school and becoming a
35:2935 minutes, 29 secondshealthier school okay two sides of right so right now
35:3535 minutes, 35 secondsit's it's be like if you're were taking a a driving horse and the instructor has the second wheel to take
35:4435 minutes, 44 secondsover it would be taken that second wheel away yeah I'm familiar now that I didn't know was called achievement school
35:5135 minutes, 51 secondsthat's these names are great all right and then we want to create some local school district flexibility as well so
35:5935 minutes, 59 secondsuh gosh I don't want to wait into this fourth grade testing thing but here it is um you know the house is recognizing
36:0736 minutes, 7 secondsthat there's some issues here so so we want to make it to where the Lea may allow students in fourth grade who score below or approaching on their most
36:1636 minutes, 16 secondsrecent Ela TCAP to retake the written portion of the test and then in the next section students who score below are approaching on the retake will be
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondspromoted to the next grade provided the student attend the learning loss Bridge Camp the summer AC at sco and works with a tutor of the following year so we're
36:3336 minutes, 33 secondssoftening some of the requirements that are in that third grade retention law uh I thought those were thought those were
36:4036 minutes, 40 secondsthe case already I thought you could retake it and fourth grade third grade and now they'
36:4736 minutes, 47 secondssoften theyve created more Pathways to get to fourth grade then Fourth Way has fourth grade has more Pathways forward
36:5436 minutes, 54 secondsto fifth yeah so we don't agree about is the third grade test to move on to fourth grade because it has some
37:0237 minutes, 2 secondsprovision like this now I think for third grade third grade do but the problem and what I think and I'm sure John knows this already what we're about
37:1137 minutes, 11 secondsto experience is the those third graders from last year that had been Advanced on and now in fourth grade they're about to be back in the same boat again having to
37:2037 minutes, 20 secondsmeet the the teap requirements in order to move on so this would require or create some additional options to be
37:2737 minutes, 27 secondsable to work with those children to get them moving forward yeah and and state just gave us some leniency originally uh
37:3537 minutes, 35 secondsa third fourth grade student had to be of the 50th percentile and they lowered that to the 40th percentile correct so
37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsthat helps some students also so the next section here Lea may choose either a traditional 180 day
37:5137 minutes, 51 secondsschool year or an equivalent hours based school year so what we're seeing here is some move movement and request to maybe
37:5937 minutes, 59 secondsget away from a 5day school week uh and instead of the 180 days that you have to go
38:0538 minutes, 5 secondsuh build your calendar based on that you'd have an hourly requirement that would give the local school district some flexibility so if we're in a a a
38:1438 minutes, 14 secondsrural farming area out in Dyersburg West Tennessee and they need to maybe start a little bit later um in the day or
38:2238 minutes, 22 secondssomething along those lines this gives those school districts the ability to kind of flex around and do what they need to do and it work would work for
38:2938 minutes, 29 secondsthe urban districts as well when you get around some of the the um you know the the traffic issues and whatnot in the
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsmorning having the kids in the school buses and stop the go traffic and all that Rush Hour uh so this this again
38:4438 minutes, 44 secondscreates a little bit more flexibility at the local level for you all to decide what's in the best interest of of your schools and your students if the Senate
38:5238 minutes, 52 secondsvoting double on that thing well they haven't voted this is it's just not included in their p package yet I mean but they they're saying guess yeah right
39:0039 minutesnow there's that's not a part of their package um then you got the laa May submit their District Improvement plan
39:0839 minutes, 8 secondsevery three years instead of annually something that John may love uh this would instead of having to deal with this every single year if you are
39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsperforming at the level meeting the levels that you are supposed to then you're going to get this three-year window the only ones that would remain
39:2539 minutes, 25 secondshaving to report annually is that if you're still not performing to to standard we do like that yes I'm sure
39:3339 minutes, 33 secondsyou do it's just it's it's it's manour it's resources that you can direct to other things there's
39:4139 minutes, 41 secondsthere's there are multiple layers of Tennessee accountability and and I think the same goal could be accomplished with
39:5039 minutes, 50 secondsone solid singular layer I can Cur sir U I'll have a question I'm sorry
39:5739 minutes, 57 secondssure um what happens if a student goes to a public school and then decides that they want to come back to you know
40:0540 minutes, 5 secondssomewhere you know go private SCH they go to a private school and they want to come back to public and in the you know in the middle what happens to that
40:1340 minutes, 13 secondsfunding it it would have to be returned to the state so if if they if they go six weeks and decide hey this is not for
40:2240 minutes, 22 secondsme that student has to pay back that money so the money doesn't go to the student it would go to the school so it's like a scholarship program they have to apply for for admission to the
40:3140 minutes, 31 secondsschool and then upon admission to the school they fill out the paperwork for the the scholarship program so the state would then send the money directly to
40:4040 minutes, 40 secondsthe school so that keeps it out of the hands of of families or students where we don't have to worry about any type of abuse or fraud or anything so it come
40:4740 minutes, 47 secondsback to the public school that's correct so if the if that school was not educating that child throughout the entire school year they would have to
40:5540 minutes, 55 secondspay back that money it really wouldn't come back to this I mean our funding is based on enrollment from year before
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsright so it almost be for you it' be like he never left it would be like he never left right correct no I thought te
41:1141 minutes, 11 secondswas month to month so T day to day is it yeah but it your funding your formula is
41:1841 minutes, 18 secondsis based on the the number that the report that you send in at the end of the year as we go into the next fiscal year of the state that that's what it's
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondsbased on now you're you're reporting on a regular basis but the funding that you receive is based on that final report so
41:3341 minutes, 33 secondsit is the previous year right I thought and what if that student has to have special services like speech
41:4141 minutes, 41 secondsPT things like that who takes care of that that is that address at all you're identifying another issue here and that
41:5041 minutes, 50 secondsthe private schools are not required to accept those students or even offer those programs and so if May those there
41:5841 minutes, 58 secondsmay not be a better option for those students than the public school so they would have to apply just like any other student and be excepted if they have a
42:0742 minutes, 7 secondsspecial need or an IEP or something like that the private schools will not be required to accept them they're not
42:1442 minutes, 14 secondsgoing to be under the same rules that you all are so that's a good that's a good point chrisy so our funding you
42:2242 minutes, 22 secondsknow varies by requirements like that MH but the private school is just one fixed amount the private school or is it
42:3042 minutes, 30 secondsattached to any of those specific the private school gets to make up their own decision as what their tuition is they
42:3742 minutes, 37 secondsget to decline but the but the amount of the scholarship nothing to do with has nothing to do with that the
42:4442 minutes, 44 secondsstudent a student with special needs versus versus a regular straight A student it gets the same
42:5242 minutes, 52 seconds7,000 we can get up like I think 11 or 12 mhm yeah there's no there's nothing built into this scholarship program to
43:0143 minutes, 1 secondaddress the different needs of the student at this point is there anything in here that would prevent like with
43:0843 minutes, 8 secondsChristie's question about a private school uh could they put some language in an agreement with that student hey if you
43:1643 minutes, 16 secondsstart you you know that money's got to stay you know could they prevent it so I mean no that's going to be it
43:2343 minutes, 23 secondsso so a school will have to first apply to the state to participate in the program in order for them to be eligible
43:3043 minutes, 30 secondsto offer the scholarship they're going to have to apply to the state and be approved so let's say Zion Christians
43:3843 minutes, 38 secondsdecides well we want to use this money or they're they're going to have to go through the Hoops with the Department of Ed to qualify to be a scholarship
43:4743 minutes, 47 secondsoffering school then once they're qualified by the state students start sending in their applications to enroll
43:5543 minutes, 55 secondsin that school those stud student applications then get sent to the state to say here's the however many kids that
44:0244 minutes, 2 secondsthat we need to get this money for and so I was Squirt concerned about a
44:0844 minutes, 8 secondsprivate school like you know saying hey you can't leave you know you leave that money you know can they put some
44:1644 minutes, 16 secondslanguage in that agreement somewhere this law keep that that's the agreement between the school and the state not between it's not between the student and
44:2444 minutes, 24 secondsthe okay yes all right uh and so last two things here
44:3244 minutes, 32 secondsin this section is is dealing with chronic absenteeism uh allowing you all to adopt an intervention plan and receive
44:3944 minutes, 39 secondsaccountability scores based on that plan that's going to give you again some more flexibility on dealing with that issue and then the you may count the high
44:4744 minutes, 47 secondsdosage low ration uh tutoring or RTI inventions as RTI requirements to meet those state requirements so again this
44:5644 minutes, 56 secondsis something looking at the the smaller school districts the rural school districts to give you guys some more flexibility on how to deal with that stuff all
45:0445 minutes, 4 secondsright and here's where your teachers are going to and and I think you all too
45:1245 minutes, 12 secondsso benefits for the teachers under the house plan what we're what we're proposing to include in this is a a
45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsstate match for Teacher insurance premiums that will increase from the current 45% rate that the state pays up
45:2545 minutes, 25 secondsto 60% so this is about a $160 million hit that the state would be taking that
45:3245 minutes, 32 secondsis being passed on freeing up the money that you all currently spend in your budget that 15% that you're meeting goes away gets replaced with State funds and
45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsit frees it up for you all to spend it and redirect it here at the state level and again that's where I've got these projections that we'll get to at
45:4945 minutes, 49 secondsthe end that'll show you how much we think that's we project that to be for hickin County um teacher evaluation frequ y
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondswould be reduced under this plan for for those scoring at or above expectations as follows so we go down through here
46:0446 minutes, 4 secondsand based on what rating that you all have will determine what your teacher evaluation frequency and what this gets into is look if you guys are doing good
46:1346 minutes, 13 secondswe don't need to be in your business all the time uh we only need to be knocking on your door if something's not going right and so if you're scoring
46:2246 minutes, 22 secondssignificantly above expectations you're only going to have to be evaluated every three years uh if it's above expectations every two years at
46:3046 minutes, 30 secondsexpectations every year below or significantly below then that would be evaluated based on what the current law
46:3746 minutes, 37 secondssays the other thing that we've put into this proposal is extending the lure uh recertifications from 5 years to eight
46:4546 minutes, 45 secondsyears so again teachers get an additional three years of not having to go back to get their license renewed and
46:5246 minutes, 52 secondsmore classroom instruction uh less teaching to attest that's what we talked about the production and the testing part
46:5946 minutes, 59 secondsof any questions on that stuff so far this is a really good proposal yeah and all stuff that stands alone would should
47:0747 minutes, 7 secondsbe things that we would be considering to pass anyway those those would help our principles tremendously currently uh
47:1447 minutes, 14 secondsevery teacher is evaluated uh annually correct and that and the truth is in all
47:2147 minutes, 21 secondsschools there are some teachers that need more support than others and there are other veteran teachers who are performing well who don't need the support so that that's that is very
47:3047 minutes, 30 secondspleasing to hear that it is a isn't it a sliding scale now though but maybe is it time for the year if you're above
47:3847 minutes, 38 secondsexpectations twice a year something it's a sliding scale but it's not this wide at a scale and everyone still has to be
47:4547 minutes, 45 secondsevaluated regardless of where you are on the scale correct so this this also provide some incentive for for getting
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsgood evaluations you know again if you do well you're going to get rewarded not having to deal with it as much all right so now this this is where the rubber
48:0248 minutes, 2 secondsmeets the road and what we're talking about I'll increase this so we can see
48:0948 minutes, 9 secondsit um so right here in the middle this is what I have projections from the speaker of the house uh what he's
48:1848 minutes, 18 secondsprovided to me so hman Count's is the sparse District so with that 20% increase in the sparse waiting looking
48:2748 minutes, 27 secondslooking at an increase annual increase in Tissa funding of 206,000
48:3348 minutes, 33 secondsannually with the $75 infrastructure stien you're looking at $233,000 annually and again both of
48:4248 minutes, 42 secondsthose are direct funding to the district from the state and then the 60% of teacher Insurance based on your current
48:5248 minutes, 52 secondsemployment numbers that you have now uh you're located approximately 300 $3 33,000 that the state would be covering
49:0149 minutes, 1 secondthat would be returned or taken out of your local funding and and free you up to spend in other parts of your budget
49:0849 minutes, 8 secondscan you I'm sure you just covered but what was the sparse weight again the spart John want to talk about it's this
49:1549 minutes, 15 secondsour population yeah so that's your tea funding formula based on the population of students that you have it's a tiered
49:2249 minutes, 22 secondssystem right so oh okay so not everybody gets paid the same rate it's based on the number of students that you have so and and that's designed to kind of level
49:3149 minutes, 31 secondsthe money out um L County gets a little more because their less that that's right so you go down Lewis County they
49:3849 minutes, 38 secondswould qualify for the new category that I told you that was up there which would be an additional 2% yeah and that gets
49:4549 minutes, 45 secondsthem a little bit more money they get a little bit less because they have fewer students on they got really close to us with a lot less students that's correct
49:5349 minutes, 53 secondsand then you go up to Dixon County and you can kind of see what a a a bigger school system looks like uh and then you
50:0150 minutes, 1 secondknow 1.2 1.3 million of money that the state sending into that District so so
50:0850 minutes, 8 secondsthis is the funding increase we would get if all of those house all the bells and whistles all the all the money stuff
50:1650 minutes, 16 secondshappens the the TSA waiting increases if the $75 infrastructure and the student
50:2350 minutes, 23 secondsuh or the teacher paid uh insurance percentages if those three things are included in what we pass that's the
50:3250 minutes, 32 secondsfunding about 700 almost 3/4 of a million a little over 3/4 of a million dollars coming to count each year year
50:4150 minutes, 41 secondsso second year you can basically divide try to project how many you might lose in that second year which will
50:4850 minutes, 48 secondsaffect our budget on Isa right and that's the money there that would in the second year would be there to have offet
50:5750 minutes, 57 secondsand what's the John what's the am student that you're getting right now uh I would say 68 what
51:0651 minutes, 6 secondsis a little just right under that 7,000 so if you round it up to 7,000 we we use because tssa weights students
51:1551 minutes, 15 secondsdifferently we get more for Career Tech we get more for special ed we use 7,000 as the number when we're calculating TSA
51:2251 minutes, 22 secondsjust in we use $7,000 student so so what that tell me if this is right if if
51:3051 minutes, 30 secondslet's say it's 7,000 and this is 700,000 additional funds per year I think that means a 100
51:3851 minutes, 38 secondsstudents could go out could leave the district and we would break even right so around 100 students would be like a
51:4551 minutes, 45 secondsbreak even for us right for and this is if everything if you get completely your wish cuz I mean realistically you go in
51:5451 minutes, 54 secondsconference you guys are going to ask it all there's no guarantee yeah John we around 3,000 students oh we are less
52:0152 minutes, 1 secondthan that that's one of the challenges we have moving forward to our next budget year uh as of February 28th
52:1052 minutes, 10 seconds2023 uh compared to February 28th of 2024 we're we're about 200 students less
52:1752 minutes, 17 secondswhich which using the $7,000 figure that's a $1.4 million hold that but as
52:2552 minutes, 25 secondsMr V said when you have less students you have less responsibility and should have less Personnel yeah should be able
52:3452 minutes, 34 secondsto consolidate maybe some classrooms and like that so so my gut feel consolidate and this is just a gut
52:4252 minutes, 42 secondsfeel is that we wouldn't lose a 100 for the first
52:5052 minutes, 50 secondsyear I don't I don't see us losing 100 in the first only way I see that happening is if the if the hom school
52:5752 minutes, 57 secondsstudents get included in it because then I see H school students if it if it was
53:0453 minutes, 4 secondsenough to 100% pay for private school then yes but it's not it is in F school
53:1153 minutes, 11 secondslike you can go to Dixon and you could go for the whole year yeah but $77,000 we establish is not going to pay a year
53:1953 minutes, 19 secondsof private school for some account but if they Dixon because it's only $400 a month over there with the two private
53:2753 minutes, 27 secondsschools well there's three so it's around 400 oh I missed that earlier I thought we established earlier it was
53:3453 minutes, 34 secondslike 12,000 or something some of the okay yeah yeah some of these shirt schools I think it's
53:4253 minutes, 42 secondswhat the that that I think you going to see push for a lot more of that and I think it could exceed 100 real quick
53:5153 minutes, 51 secondswell in my op it it would it wouldn't in the beginning I think the point the point I'm trying to make a lot of news a lot it's a lot this is this is in social
53:5953 minutes, 59 secondsmedia it's it's out there and people so we be determined on people are aware of it and and people are I me I don't even
54:0854 minutes, 8 secondsknow if there even be enough seats in the you know enough spots in the private schools because you can't go start up new
54:1654 minutes, 16 secondsprivate schools for three years you have you have to start it up you're on you don't even have slots you're on the right there there are two
54:2454 minutes, 24 secondsthings that I personally can see affecting the the efficacy of this
54:3054 minutes, 30 secondsplan um the governor's plan one is availability of spots in the private school they're all pretty much full now
54:3854 minutes, 38 secondswith waiting lists anyway so I think that will inhibit availability and use of the of these funds because there's not going to
54:4654 minutes, 46 secondsbe a whole lot of spots open um secondly is just like we saw with the Hope
54:5454 minutes, 54 secondsScholarship when that those money started flowing into the colleges tuition went up it created inflation so
55:0155 minutes, 1 secondif we start pumping $144 million into the private school economy it's just a matter of time before tuition starts
55:0955 minutes, 9 secondscreeping up in those private schools so which goes back to what you're saying the $7,000 isn't going to cover everything and you know if it's if you
55:1855 minutes, 18 secondsstart out when you you're getting seven from the state you need three to cover the balance and then in year two they say oh by the way well now we need five
55:2755 minutes, 27 secondsit becomes less and less you know sustainable stud going to have to find a way
55:3455 minutes, 34 secondsto and these small schools let's say there's a small amount they could see since they are already established a
55:4355 minutes, 43 secondspotential to build more buildings and add people to their school right because they're already potentially so so that's
55:5155 minutes, 51 secondsalso going to drive up cost of tuition because again just like you mention 100 students is roughly
56:0056 minutes$700,000 um you know by the time you add on to a building add all the Staffing and maintenance cost and everything else
56:0856 minutes, 8 seconds$700,000 ain't going to cover through that in no time so it's not really an incentive for
56:1656 minutes, 16 secondsa school to come pop up in the CLE and decide we're going to create a new school here because hey they're probably not going to get 100 students and even
56:2556 minutes, 25 secondsif they did 700 a year isn't enough to operate so now yeah now from listening to you uh on
56:3256 minutes, 32 secondssome of the other stuff Social Media stuff that you said um the money is unfunded mandates which
56:4156 minutes, 41 secondsmeans you have to vote on it or the the house and the Senate will have to vote on it every year to approve it so there's that's that's the the again I
56:5056 minutes, 50 secondsmentioned the Hope Scholarship the the the thing with the Hope Scholarship is it had the lottery Revenue tied to it so it has a funding mechanism
56:5956 minutes, 59 secondsthis doesn't this is a brand new deal there's no new income coming in revenues coming into the state to cover this so
57:0657 minutes, 6 secondsevery single year the the legislature is going to have to decide yes we want to continue to fund this at this number or
57:1557 minutes, 15 secondsraise it or lower it or whatever the case may be so um and that's for all of this uh even the goodies that we're putting in here for the public schools
57:2457 minutes, 24 secondsand so um you know and we don't know what the future looks what the future holds uh right now we have the a
57:3257 minutes, 32 secondsrepublican super majority and Republican Governor six years from now eight years from now that may be different and we
57:3957 minutes, 39 secondsdon't know what what that Administration and that legislature will decide to do with this program so that that's also a
57:4657 minutes, 46 secondsconcern of mine um and then as we start scaling this thing out um you know
57:5357 minutes, 53 secondswe've seen other states that didn't put some of these guard rails in that that we're putting in for capping the growth of it and that sort of thing and it's
58:0158 minutes, 1 secondbeen a giant budget Buster for a lot of these states Arizona and U Florida and some others so so what Happ so what
58:1058 minutes, 10 secondshappened there I mean there was no limits on the we're kind of saying that we don't see this going real big but you're saying in
58:1758 minutes, 17 secondsother states where it's happen without the limits it has there are there are a 100,000 private school students enrolled
58:2658 minutes, 26 secondsin Tennessee right now right at 100,000 multiply that times $7,000 if we did what the government wants to do and
58:3458 minutes, 34 secondsopen this up to all students and all 100,000 students that's $7
58:4158 minutes, 41 secondsbillion our budget's only 56.2 so and we only got the 56.2 in the
58:5058 minutes, 50 secondslast really 15 years I mean it's 15 years ago
58:5658 minutes, 56 secondsabout 32 34 million or billion so we' we've been doing a rapid increase and that's going to have to level off at
59:0459 minutes, 4 secondssome point you know what we what we have now in the state budget is a lot of has been non-referring monies that we've
59:1159 minutes, 11 secondsbeen spending coming in from all the co money well that's going to start that's going to start windly and so the
59:1859 minutes, 18 secondsother factor that that I don't know if you all are aware of is we have an issue with our f& tax
59:2759 minutes, 27 secondsand that's coming up in this discussion as well um for this year we're going to have to to change the way we do our f&
59:3559 minutes, 35 secondstaxes and that's going to equate to about a $400 million loss and revenues year after year going
59:4359 minutes, 43 secondsforward on top of that there we might end up having to I say might because there's going to be some debate on this
59:5259 minutes, 52 secondspass out some refunds to businesses that based on this the problem with this at tax well if we end up going the refund
1:00:011 hour, 1 secondroute they they get to recover for the last 3 years of what they paid in and the total hit to that one time non-recurring would be about 1.5 billion
1:00:091 hour, 9 secondsto the state I was going to ask about that because uh thp we had a meeting
1:00:161 hour, 16 secondsthat's one of the things that popped up uh was that refunding of that correct of that money and that's going to help as a
1:00:241 hour, 24 secondslawyer I don't like paying somebody that hasn't sued me and one in court yet so I just assume let them try their case and we'll see if if we actually owe them
1:00:331 hour, 33 secondsanything or not but I understand that there's some pluses there's some risk to that that it could be worse you could
1:00:401 hour, 40 secondshave attorney fees and interest costs and things tacked on to it if you if you went that route but you know that's
1:00:471 hour, 47 secondsthat's above my pay grade uh at this point I'll let the Attorney General's office and and Governor decide what what's some best interest is state now
1:00:561 hour, 56 secondsas you were U pressing the Department of Education and that here and there the physical note you brought that up with
1:01:041 hour, 1 minute, 4 secondsher and I think she finally admitted or the physical note says that there will be excuse me I brought that with me oh
1:01:131 hour, 1 minute, 13 secondsokay but you know what I'm talking about there where the fiscal note they finally said it would affect Tesa in that phal
1:01:201 hour, 1 minute, 20 secondsnote well it would have to I mean it it's you pointed out I mean as students matriculate out of the
1:01:291 hour, 1 minute, 29 secondspublic school system and take advantage of this money then population numbers go down and if the funding's based on
1:01:361 hour, 1 minute, 36 secondspopulation numbers then there would have to be some Shi it may be because of the loss of students which would really
1:01:431 hour, 1 minute, 43 secondscould affect you more and more every year with a big bigger physical note that You' have to pay for every year
1:01:501 hour, 1 minute, 50 secondscorrect yeah but uh yeah you you kept pressing her and she kept it reiterating if I remember correctly that you're
1:01:591 hour, 1 minute, 59 secondsgoing to have to vote on this every year to re-approve it and we know how grants and Esser money and all all that stuff
1:02:061 hour, 2 minutes, 6 secondscome down and then all of a sudden somebody got the burden to pay for it right so we have
1:02:131 hour, 2 minutes, 13 secondscompeting fiscal notes or impacts so every time every bill that gets proposed and voted on in the state legislature
1:02:211 hour, 2 minutes, 21 secondshas to go through the the fiscal review department and they what the cost of that bill would be um and so with these
1:02:311 hour, 2 minutes, 31 secondstwo competing bills we have um one that looks like about 75 million cost for the
1:02:401 hour, 2 minutes, 40 secondsscholarship program in year one then goes up to 287 million every year after that uh
1:02:481 hour, 2 minutes, 48 secondswith some de decrease in local revenues that's the Senate version that would have that decrease in local revenues uh
1:02:551 hour, 2 minutes, 55 secondsup to $46 million a year across the state uh and then on the house side see
1:03:031 hour, 3 minutes, 3 secondswhere that is never where you can get to it the
1:03:131 hour, 3 minutes, 13 secondshouse bill is uh increasing State expenditures
1:03:201 hour, 3 minutes, 20 secondsuh 144 million in the first year and 345 million a year after that just for the scholarship program not these other
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondsissues not the teas of funding or anything else and then you have uh a decrease in state expenditures on the T
1:03:351 hour, 3 minutes, 35 secondson the TSA funding of about 101 million uh and then decreasing local revenues that's that's where that offset is so
1:03:431 hour, 3 minutes, 43 secondsyou know all of this is a lot of moving parts right now um I wish I could read
1:03:501 hour, 3 minutes, 50 secondsthe tea leaves and tell you what I thought was you know how this was going to shake out if I had to make my my best
1:03:571 hour, 3 minutes, 57 secondsguess right now is the Senate's not going to come all the way across the
1:04:041 hour, 4 minutes, 4 secondsaisle to where we are um I I would be shocked if that happens which category all did you say
1:04:131 hour, 4 minutes, 13 secondswould it be thees or they could say no to all of it or they could say hey we'll take three of these things and leave the
1:04:201 hour, 4 minutes, 20 secondsrest but then then you could vote no to the building yeah well look I mean if it doesn't mean that's what's going to
1:04:281 hour, 4 minutes, 28 secondshappen though right that's correct so if it comes out a conference and it could still get voted down right I would tell
1:04:351 hour, 4 minutes, 35 secondsyou based on the house and members that I've talked to and my estimation of where the votes are if any of this stuff
1:04:431 hour, 4 minutes, 43 secondsgets stripped out by the Senate I don't think it'll pass the house do we do we have any data on how many students there
1:04:541 hour, 4 minutes, 54 secondsare in hit County that didn't school right now the only data that I'm aware of is there are 500 School AG students in hick County that do not attend our
1:05:021 hour, 5 minutes, 2 secondsschool system uh I think we might have some data about private school enrollment but that number includes
1:05:091 hour, 5 minutes, 9 secondshomeschool students also I'll have a comment and a question sure the reason just to finish that thought the
1:05:181 hour, 5 minutes, 18 secondsreason why I ask is because um this could be good for a lot of people in our
1:05:241 hour, 5 minutes, 24 secondscommunity that are already paying a lot of money towards private school that's going to help a lot of those folks in
1:05:321 hour, 5 minutes, 32 secondsour community right now I'm sure it's not 500 I'm sure a lot most most the majority of those 500 are homeschool
1:05:391 hour, 5 minutes, 39 secondsstudents and and those and those in our community who's who are already putting their kids in private schools
1:05:461 hour, 5 minutes, 46 secondsum them getting this money doesn't affect our funding at all and those Pro school right I mean yeah they're already
1:05:541 hour, 5 minutes, 54 secondsnot it wouldn't affect our enrollment so it wouldn't affect our you are assuming that the whole 7,000 not going to those parents it's going to the school but
1:06:031 hour, 6 minutes, 3 secondsyou're saying it's in the form of a scholarship the schools would have to take that off of their tuition is that what your is that how it works or does
1:06:101 hour, 6 minutes, 10 secondsit just go to school and they don't they might not it would be a credit toward tuition it' be a credit yeah it's a scholarship so well my point is that
1:06:181 hour, 6 minutes, 18 secondsthere's there's some members of our community who would greatly benefit from r that already put their kids in private
1:06:261 hour, 6 minutes, 26 secondsschool have already made that choice and they would benefit from it with Zero Effect to our funding because they
1:06:321 hour, 6 minutes, 32 secondsthey're already off our home well maybe in the short term but at this but at the long term most of those people are
1:06:401 hour, 6 minutes, 40 secondsproperty owners and if we started having to go to the property owners for more taxes to fund our schools that they could turn around and give that right
1:06:491 hour, 6 minutes, 49 secondsback that's what that's what you're looking at you're looking at the something we're somebody's going to have
1:06:561 hour, 6 minutes, 56 secondsto which school you going to close down you know you know so and and and I see what you're saying you know I just want
1:07:051 hour, 7 minutes, 5 secondsto make a point that there like I know a few people that I work with they're not I know some they're you know they're not they don't they P County and I think a
1:07:121 hour, 7 minutes, 12 secondsvou program is a wonderful program they're not millionaires or anything I mean they're they're middle class people
1:07:191 hour, 7 minutes, 19 secondsor and they're already paying for private scho and there point is that our community would benefit because there's
1:07:261 hour, 7 minutes, 26 secondssome number right of parents prob more say there probably more that home school bucket probably than the the most of the
1:07:351 hour, 7 minutes, 35 secondspeople who attend private school in HIIT County they attend church schools and that's that was my question to
1:07:431 hour, 7 minutes, 43 secondsparticipate in the uh education Freedom Act yeah to participate in educational Freedom Act
1:07:511 hour, 7 minutes, 51 secondsthey have to have been in existence for 3 years three years and and accredited and accredited by what organization are
1:07:591 hour, 7 minutes, 59 secondsthey accredited do it is it tax uh Tennessee associ yeah so they're accredited
1:08:071 hour, 8 minutes, 7 secondsthrough the state of Tennessee yes yeah and I know the one church school here is one year old so so um Hope Church
1:08:161 hour, 8 minutes, 16 secondsstarted school this year and the one I don't think yeah I don't know how many years old it is it's been around for a yeah but but don't but most of the most
1:08:251 hour, 8 minutes, 25 secondsthe people who send their children to private school from my perspective they send them to church schools uh there are
1:08:321 hour, 8 minutes, 32 secondsa few people who send their kids to private schools outside of the county but but that's my question about the accreditation but here's my comment I
1:08:401 hour, 8 minutes, 40 secondsreally really appreciate the fact uh that you and the house side of the Tennessee legislature have tried to put
1:08:491 hour, 8 minutes, 49 secondsinto this uh proposed legislation uh Financial augmentations
1:08:561 hour, 8 minutes, 56 secondsfor Hickman County and financial augmentations for districts like us and I really also appreciate the fact that you're trying to streamline some
1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondsaccountability processes because if if it weren't for the houss side of the Tennessee legislature uh there would not
1:09:111 hour, 9 minutes, 11 secondsbe much in this bill there wouldn't be anything in this bill for us so so thank you very much for representing us well well I also say it wouldn't pass without
1:09:191 hour, 9 minutes, 19 secondsthese things it wouldn't passed the house without these things included in it uh I I want to give a lot of credit
1:09:261 hour, 9 minutes, 26 secondsto the people actually involved in in building this all I've done is build a spreadsheet for you all I'm not on the
1:09:351 hour, 9 minutes, 35 secondseducation committees I'm on the finance Ways and Means committees and commerce committees so I've not been in the room
1:09:421 hour, 9 minutes, 42 secondshammering all this out if if you know or run into people like representative
1:09:481 hour, 9 minutes, 48 secondsScott Seiki uh chairman Mark White chairman Kurt haston from Perry County
1:09:561 hour, 9 minutes, 56 secondshonestly and truly the great deal of this stuff you see here has come from Kirk haston um and and Kirk would tell
1:10:031 hour, 10 minutes, 3 secondsyou if he was sitting here as a public school teacher he would tell you that his the reason he supports this even
1:10:121 hour, 10 minutes, 12 secondsthough we know that most public school folks don't support vouchers or scholarship programs the reason he
1:10:191 hour, 10 minutes, 19 secondssupports it is because of all these things that that have been put into this package for the public schools and
1:10:271 hour, 10 minutes, 27 secondsparticularly the rural districts this may be the only bite at the Apple to get this done because if you look if you pull back and you look
1:10:351 hour, 10 minutes, 35 secondsaround us of of this school Choice Movement that's going on in in the hundreds of millions of dollars outside
1:10:431 hour, 10 minutes, 43 secondsmoney that's coming in to kind of promote and push it Alabama just approved it Georgia just approved it Kentucky I think is voting on it this
1:10:521 hour, 10 minutes, 52 secondsyear um it it this is something that Texas barely beat it and then a bunch of those guys got defeated in reelection
1:10:591 hour, 10 minutes, 59 secondsand they're going to come right back after it again and so we might beat this this year and kill it but it's going to
1:11:061 hour, 11 minutes, 6 secondscome back it's not going away and so if it comes back it may not have these advantages built into it the next time
1:11:161 hour, 11 minutes, 16 secondsso the reason I wanted to come down here and and meet face to face is to answer these questions and and to give you all
1:11:231 hour, 11 minutes, 23 secondsthe the information that you need in order to make an informed decision uh not only as a body but also
1:11:321 hour, 11 minutes, 32 secondsas you're having conversations with your constituents to let them know hey here's here's what you need to think about and here's the reason why I may soften a
1:11:411 hour, 11 minutes, 41 secondsposition on this and so um my Approach personally is I probably can't vote for
1:11:501 hour, 11 minutes, 50 secondsthis bill even as it is as the house version unless all three of my districts that I represent school districts that I
1:11:571 hour, 11 minutes, 57 secondsrepresent come out in support of it if Lewis Hickman and Dixon County School boards all come to me or issue a
1:12:041 hour, 12 minutes, 4 secondsresolution that says we're in favor of of the house plan the way it is then I can vote for this otherwise I don't know
1:12:111 hour, 12 minutes, 11 secondsthat I can can get on board with it Jody there's one thing that I don't think that you told the
1:12:181 hour, 12 minutes, 18 secondsboard and I don't know if the Senate version has it or not but that these SCH schip can actually be taken to other
1:12:271 hour, 12 minutes, 27 secondsPublic Schools correct right right now no I that's what it says so in your resolution or
1:12:361 hour, 12 minutes, 36 secondsamended um right now there's not anything built into either of these about
1:12:441 hour, 12 minutes, 44 secondsum U like open zoning or anything like that um as far as whether or not it can be used for travel expenses or something
1:12:531 hour, 12 minutes, 53 secondsto to travel to a different District I don't think that's what this is designed well it says that it may provide a student to enroll in a private school or
1:13:021 hour, 13 minutes, 2 secondspublic school in another Lea yeah I mean again that's part of the detailed stuff that will have to be
1:13:101 hour, 13 minutes, 10 secondssorted out but I'm not sure I mean what what do yall even charge for an out of state or out of County student oh we
1:13:171 hour, 13 minutes, 17 secondscharge $1,000 got so you start seeing that number starts going up too if you
1:13:251 hour, 13 minutes, 25 secondsstart seeing kids want to transfer in that that maybe live on in Perry County and want to come over here or something
1:13:321 hour, 13 minutes, 32 secondsalong those lines that that's another aspect of this for you all through C I would like to say one more thing and then I'll
1:13:391 hour, 13 minutes, 39 secondsthrough the organization in which we're a member of and I'm I'm not sure what the name of it Tennessee rule School
1:13:461 hour, 13 minutes, 46 secondsOrganization Mr Wayne qus is the executive director of it and the gentleman that was a basketball coach here he came to a board meeting
1:13:551 hour, 13 minutes, 55 secondsuh what was his name Maron Davis was Marlon Davis yeah they they have been uh
1:14:021 hour, 14 minutes, 2 secondsactively involved in the lobbying for smaller schools and Rural schools to be uh to be treated very fairly on this so
1:14:111 hour, 14 minutes, 11 secondswe that I just want to point that out because our membership of that organization has played a role in us being represented well in this
1:14:191 hour, 14 minutes, 19 secondslegislation so Jody what you would like to see from us as a board either a
1:14:251 hour, 14 minutes, 25 secondsa Consolidated agreement to be for or against it uh so you know I would love
1:14:331 hour, 14 minutes, 33 secondsto I would love to have some consensus and direction from from you all as a school board that I represent yes um to
1:14:411 hour, 14 minutes, 41 secondsto know where you all stand on this I I I know pretty well how folks feel about
1:14:481 hour, 14 minutes, 48 secondsvouchers but this is not a voucher bill this is this is a a really a complete
1:14:551 hour, 14 minutes, 55 secondsoverall overhaul of public education or at least a significant revision of of public education in Tennessee so weon
1:15:041 hour, 15 minutes, 4 secondscounty is not in your District I know they just put out a resolution I think they sent that up to their wishes right
1:15:121 hour, 15 minutes, 12 secondswell did they finally vote on it I what I read I think they did yes okay so yeah Dixon had sent me one early on and they
1:15:211 hour, 15 minutes, 21 secondswere opposed to to the the governor plan that we put out and I I urge them us to
1:15:291 hour, 15 minutes, 29 secondsjust wait until you see what all because we were still waiting for the the bill to be issued we again I'm wasn't
1:15:371 hour, 15 minutes, 37 secondsinvolved in all the of the uh discussions there had to be some Chiefs and Indians and I was an Indian in this
1:15:441 hour, 15 minutes, 44 secondsum and so we had to wait until it it actually got filed for us to see what all was in it and then start having the conversation so uh I'll be meeting with
1:15:531 hour, 15 minutes, 53 secondsDixon County I meet with Lewis County tomorrow night um and going to have this very same conversation with them and you
1:16:011 hour, 16 minutes, 1 secondknow just wanted you all to make sure that you had all the information and and I've emailed this to Ron he can share it with you as well uh so you have it um
1:16:101 hour, 16 minutes, 10 secondsand if there anything that comes up that changes I'll be communicating to let let him know does everybody have my cell
1:16:181 hour, 16 minutes, 18 secondsnumber yes I okay good so J what's the what's the timeline like how how do we
1:16:251 hour, 16 minutes, 25 secondsneed as a board to put a resolution together and vote on this thing will well we we will adjourn by the end of
1:16:341 hour, 16 minutes, 34 secondsApril or first week of May so we're in we're in the Final Approach probably
1:16:401 hour, 16 minutes, 40 secondsnext four six weeks so you really need something probably by the middle of April or
1:16:481 hour, 16 minutes, 48 secondsthereabouts is there any if anything else comes out of course you'll let us know on how it's going absolutely and if
1:16:551 hour, 16 minutes, 55 secondsyou if you all decide as a board that you are okay with this house bill as I
1:17:021 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondspresented to you and something changes I'm not going to use that against you uh you know obviously we're going to
1:17:101 hour, 17 minutes, 10 secondshave to have flexibility both you all and I will have to have flexibility as this thing continues to evolve the other thing that that uh I
1:17:181 hour, 17 minutes, 18 secondscommunicated with you um is it anything you want to talk that you put in for some money for us uh you're talking
1:17:261 hour, 17 minutes, 26 secondsabout the uh tell me the name of the program to we talked the other day and you were going to see what might be
1:17:351 hour, 17 minutes, 35 secondsavailable so it's not it's not something that I was able to ask for a a um
1:17:421 hour, 17 minutes, 42 secondsappropriation for but there's negotiations going on with the Department of Ed to try to get funding
1:17:491 hour, 17 minutes, 49 secondsfor that in the budget so I'm waiting to hear back from them to find out because the governor is he issued his budget
1:17:561 hour, 17 minutes, 56 secondsback in February and then now in the next two weeks we're going to get his amended budget based on all the the bills and conversations that have been
1:18:051 hour, 18 minutes, 5 secondstaking place during the legisl legislative session so he'll issue that and Pro no more than two weeks from now
1:18:131 hour, 18 minutes, 13 secondsum and I'm hoping to see in that amended budget some additional monies for that I appreciate you you know
1:18:221 hour, 18 minutes, 22 secondstalking going for that uh he does the same thing in Barry County he's over Schoolin health and uh so he's very well
1:18:311 hour, 18 minutes, 31 secondsit and we've talked talk to him yeah we have talked about it um the other thing to remember about that in
1:18:391 hour, 18 minutes, 39 secondsparticular is what we were talking about with the f& tax you know right now it's kind of built in to the cape that we're
1:18:471 hour, 18 minutes, 47 secondsgoing to be spending that money if if the legislature decides to handle that a different way there may be a pot of
1:18:541 hour, 18 minutes, 54 secondsmoney there for this year that that we have to divy out and if that's the case that may be something that that gets
1:19:011 hour, 19 minutes, 1 secondincluded iners did you try you want some clarification on I did so Mr gam prior to the board have any consensus about
1:19:101 hour, 19 minutes, 10 secondsanything I I would like Miss Baker's just for that to be clarified in terms of the money if it can go to a private
1:19:191 hour, 19 minutes, 19 secondsschool or if it goes to a public because I I I was under the impression of the same thing that you said Miss Baker I'm
1:19:271 hour, 19 minutes, 27 secondslooking at their bill right now that it could go to another public entity is that the amend and they could walk so
1:19:341 hour, 19 minutes, 34 secondsthey could take their 7,000 and walk so I just want to make sure that well
1:19:411 hour, 19 minutes, 41 secondsall they like our fees a th I don't know what other County fees are right but
1:19:491 hour, 19 minutes, 49 secondsum if it affects enrollment it affects enrollment right if enrollment goes out funding us down um
1:19:581 hour, 19 minutes, 58 secondsbut I I don't know what it C is it more is it a lot of money to go to another County right now I don't know C do
1:20:051 hour, 20 minutes, 5 secondsWillam County it's pretty high it was up $2,200 from but if they leave here and
1:20:121 hour, 20 minutes, 12 secondscan go to another Public School System their money goes with them is that correct it goes to
1:20:191 hour, 20 minutes, 19 secondstheir is that anything you want to address the John
1:20:261 hour, 20 minutes, 26 secondstransport I've got aou transport about money different
1:20:321 hour, 20 minutes, 32 secondsdon't we've been mandated to take the the the salaries of the teachers up to
1:20:401 hour, 20 minutes, 40 seconds$50,000 approximately $50,000 and we took a good shot at it last year and uh
1:20:471 hour, 20 minutes, 47 secondsand got I at 44 and so is there no money I mean this is following that from the
1:20:551 hour, 20 minutes, 55 secondsstate to the school districts that that's a huge expense that's that's part of the $266 million that's in the
1:21:021 hour, 21 minutes, 2 secondsgovernor budget for this year that's increased going to Tissa this year okay so so but that's that's unrelated to
1:21:091 hour, 21 minutes, 9 secondsthis so that's 722 that 266 is already built in so there's 144 what the B what the governor gave us in his proposed
1:21:171 hour, 21 minutes, 17 secondsbudget was 144 million for this Esa program and 266 26 mil specifically for
1:21:261 hour, 21 minutes, 26 secondsthat teacher increase correct yeah that goes to the additional TI funding to help cover those but we're doing budgets
1:21:341 hour, 21 minutes, 34 secondsnow so there will be but we don't know what that'll be we got that insurance
1:21:431 hour, 21 minutes, 43 secondsyes you'll know we'll all know what the budget is going to be and and what the
1:21:501 hour, 21 minutes, 50 secondsthe funding amount will be for t as a whole by second you know first week in May and
1:21:591 hour, 21 minutes, 59 secondsthen as far as figuring out what y'all's formulas are that that comes after that when they know what your final enrollment numbers are then they they'll
1:22:071 hour, 22 minutes, 7 secondssend you that report so I'm sorry but another thing that's uh
1:22:131 hour, 22 minutes, 13 secondsthat surprise you know was a pleasant surprise surprise was the 5,000 per student for CTE is that is that correct
1:22:221 hour, 22 minutes, 22 secondsyes is that going to continue that's it in the budget as well cuz they were surprised at the meeting in uh Brickwood
1:22:301 hour, 22 minutes, 30 secondsyeah when we met up there we met a Paris group and last year and they were being being the attorney
1:22:371 hour, 22 minutes, 37 secondsfor thank you but he was surpris he they were surpris pleasantly surprised that money was there but they would for sure that was going to continue year after
1:22:461 hour, 22 minutes, 46 secondsyear but that's it is that's huge he in the proposed budget now again I'll tell you this the budget that the governor
1:22:531 hour, 22 minutes, 53 secondsissues is Governor's proposal the budget belongs to the legisl and so there will be some slicing and dicing and some
1:23:001 hour, 23 minutesrearranging of that um but that I've not heard anything that would indicate that that part of it is a jeopard Jeopardy
1:23:091 hour, 23 minutes, 9 secondsthat's that's that was good and they were concerned about it that it could be something that got added and then wouldn't funded you know so but it's a
1:23:181 hour, 23 minutes, 18 secondsthat's a significant amount of money well another thing related to C
1:23:251 hour, 23 minutes, 25 secondsand and uh money the I met with the president of Nashville State Community College today and she showed me the
1:23:321 hour, 23 minutes, 32 secondsprary drawings for the new building out here on South 46 so it's going to be a
1:23:391 hour, 23 minutes, 39 secondsreally nice facility um the a lot of the health related classes that tat are going to be housed in that building in
1:23:471 hour, 23 minutes, 47 secondsthat facility so I think that's going to be an asset to both Dixon and County that's just system up there now
1:23:551 hour, 23 minutes, 55 secondsis run out they don't have any place to expand correct they're they're landlocked and so this is going to free
1:24:011 hour, 24 minutes, 1 secondup space on the teap campus if they take those Allied Health classes out of there that's going to free up the ability to
1:24:101 hour, 24 minutes, 10 secondsthem to go in and remodel that space to to expand some of the offerings there was put in at 65 and large right by
1:24:201 hour, 24 minutes, 20 secondsyears so one thing that's included in this new Nashville State Building is a brand new ENT program that is the only
1:24:281 hour, 24 minutes, 28 secondsone like it in the state so we're going to have the only tat ENT program for the entire state where that going to be
1:24:361 hour, 24 minutes, 36 secondslocated right next to the emergency room uh stand emergency room that's oh okay yeah
1:24:441 hour, 24 minutes, 44 secondsyes so how are we going to do this I guess are we going to have two resolutions at the next board meeting
1:24:521 hour, 24 minutes, 52 secondsand we're going to we'll have to discuss that I mean and then vote on motion vote on a resolution for a
1:25:001 hour, 25 minutesresolution against and we'll see who votes for what I we need we need to do something you way it stands now next
1:25:081 hour, 25 minutes, 8 secondsmeeting we need our next meeting I think to yeah to put to approve a resolution so that means we have to draft one before the next meeting I guess my
1:25:161 hour, 25 minutes, 16 secondsquestion is do we draft both resolution let me ask let me answer your question real quick for for for
1:25:241 hour, 25 minutes, 24 secondsCas uh the house bill does not include uh public to public open enrollment but the Senate version does so the Senate
1:25:331 hour, 25 minutes, 33 secondsversion would provide for some portion of funding for that but the house does not thank you and that and that and that
1:25:431 hour, 25 minutes, 43 secondsI appreciate it and that portion would be uh most detrimental to us because uh Fairview
1:25:511 hour, 25 minutes, 51 secondsHospital Fairview and Dixon are 10 miles from us that that portion and my understanding of that
1:25:591 hour, 25 minutes, 59 secondsportion is the child would be responsible for whatever the out of state excuse me the child will be responsible for whatever the out of
1:26:081 hour, 26 minutes, 8 secondsCounty tuition is the $7,000 just would anman high school student transfer to
1:26:151 hour, 26 minutes, 15 secondsFairview the parent has to pay whatever Williamson County pays and the $7,000 goes to Fairview as following should in
1:26:251 hour, 26 minutes, 25 secondsWilliamson County I think that's part of the big reason why their school board objection to they really don't want that because they see a big influx of people
1:26:341 hour, 26 minutes, 34 secondsthey their Fair viw says you know it is growing correct I me there are still some schools out there like the K12
1:26:411 hour, 26 minutes, 41 secondsVirtual Academy how would they pay they play like a or get the money like a school or they get it as a private
1:26:491 hour, 26 minutes, 49 secondsschool k12 is through Union County so I think they're under be
1:26:561 hour, 26 minutes, 56 secondsunder but they get under te and everything else but you said homeschoolers were excluded excluded
1:27:051 hour, 27 minutes, 5 secondsfrom the house plan but category four is considered private school Under state but the way the the amendment is drafted
1:27:121 hour, 27 minutes, 12 secondsis that that the umbrella portion if they were an umbrella student oh there's there's another amendment that you're
1:27:201 hour, 27 minutes, 20 secondsnot seeing okay that the the umbrella student for homeschool is not it's not and the other
1:27:291 hour, 27 minutes, 29 secondsconcern is that the homeschool parents are concerned that if they take the scholarship money there's going to be some requ potentially down the road be
1:27:371 hour, 27 minutes, 37 secondstesting requirements testing requ restrictions all of that what do you think Sher you're
1:27:461 hour, 27 minutes, 46 secondsa I think I wouldn't want homeschoolers in there but but I
1:27:541 hour, 27 minutes, 54 secondsI am homeschool but it's considered private school so and that's the majority of homeschoolers are are attached to an
1:28:031 hour, 28 minutes, 3 secondsumbrella under class four uh Church related scho that's different mine is considered accredited
1:28:121 hour, 28 minutes, 12 secondsbecause we do a Becca so it's an accredited school and it's not the umbrella schools are a category three
1:28:201 hour, 28 minutes, 20 secondscategory three yeah I said four there's the category four which you're considered private schools that are online like teachers and stuff like that
1:28:301 hour, 28 minutes, 30 secondsthat that's like your Whit Stone Academy that's faced out of Columbia they' got a a pop up in in pona that it's more of an
1:28:381 hour, 28 minutes, 38 secondsonline and those are considered homeschool for the purpose of this weay okay okay what time there's money
1:28:471 hour, 28 minutes, 47 secondsinvolved you don't see a lot of stuff come up yeah so what drives this whole thing which I'd like to find out what drives it because that's this program
1:28:561 hour, 28 minutes, 56 secondsthat's been from the start you know it's money all the money and somebody yeah figured out that's what
1:29:031 hour, 29 minutes, 3 secondsI'm I was hearing you a while ago and you was talking about well it's not going to do this it really ain't going to do this I'm said why are we doing it why is it being done if it's you know it
1:29:131 hour, 29 minutes, 13 secondssounds like well I mean I I know there a small I understand the cost oh oh I
1:29:191 hour, 29 minutes, 19 secondscompletely understand that it mean my kids went to public school but I've known lots of people who send their kids to private school and and honestly most
1:29:291 hour, 29 minutes, 29 secondsof most if not every one of them are probably like my tax money funds a public school that I'm not us I don't
1:29:361 hour, 29 minutes, 36 secondsget to I don't use you know so I mean that's the to me that's the root of it all is there's a there's a fairness thing with a lot of parents who are
1:29:461 hour, 29 minutes, 46 secondstaxpayers and are funding a public school that they're not using but I look at it I look at it philosophically there
1:29:531 hour, 29 minutes, 53 secondsare two two driving forces or goals that you're trying to deal with when you're dealing with students one is
1:30:021 hour, 30 minutes, 2 secondsis educational outcomes and the other is educational experience
1:30:091 hour, 30 minutes, 9 secondsso the people that are opposed to vouchers in school choice often look at statistical data and say well there's nothing that shows that these kids are
1:30:171 hour, 30 minutes, 17 secondsperforming any better that get the vouchers and move to a different school system but what's that's a an objective
1:30:241 hour, 30 minutes, 24 secondsstandard but the the subjective standard is what you can't quantify and that is
1:30:311 hour, 30 minutes, 31 secondshow how happy and healthy is this student soci correct it it's is the this
1:30:381 hour, 30 minutes, 38 secondsexperience of attending school more enjoyable and is he or she a happier healthier student as a result of that
1:30:461 hour, 30 minutes, 46 secondschange of environment um that's an immeasurable yeah thing and and a lot of
1:30:531 hour, 30 minutes, 53 secondsthis that I can I can tell you from the governor's standpoint a lot of what
1:30:591 hour, 30 minutes, 59 secondsdrives him in this area is is the unquantifiable yeah um and I understand
1:31:071 hour, 31 minutes, 7 secondsyou know mental health side of things and I voted for governor Lee TW you know voted for him and and and support but I
1:31:161 hour, 31 minutes, 16 secondsjust never seen any legislation that in my opinion that one size fits all I can see this in Shelby County MH Davidson
1:31:241 hour, 31 minutes, 24 secondsCounty knoxx County I can see it probably in Murphy squ you know or yeah yeah and I can say it but but
1:31:331 hour, 31 minutes, 33 secondswhen it come to for instance this this Hitman County School District is the largest employer in this County and I
1:31:421 hour, 31 minutes, 42 secondsand I will say I I'll bet it's this guesstimating politically and talking to
1:31:481 hour, 31 minutes, 48 secondsthe Republican uh chair that uh that 70% of the employees of this School District
1:31:551 hour, 31 minutes, 55 secondsvoted voted Republic you know and so it's your constituents too we're we're his constituents too and we're in a different
1:32:031 hour, 32 minutes, 3 secondssituation than uh than than these urban areas and I understand a kid worried about safety
1:32:121 hour, 32 minutes, 12 secondsand going to school and getting hurt you know and all kind of issues and that's a discussion that I've had with our leadership from the get-go is and I kind
1:32:211 hour, 32 minutes, 21 secondsof liken it to um Chick-fil-A if I stood on the sidewalk in cville and passed out $100 gift certificates to Chick-fil-A
1:32:291 hour, 32 minutes, 29 secondsand you have to drive 45 miles to use it it's really not going to do
1:32:371 hour, 32 minutes, 37 secondsanybody see what I'm saying right passing out $7,000 to every
1:32:441 hour, 32 minutes, 44 secondsstudent in these counties that that have to drive 40 50 60 miles to get Tock school I don't know how much you're
1:32:531 hour, 32 minutes, 53 secondsreally improving the opportunities you're not how much Choice you're creating for those students but you do have a school like Columbia Academy that
1:33:001 hour, 33 minuteshas a bus that comes here so you know I mean that's and so the question takes away you know the part about Transportation they're not bound with a
1:33:091 hour, 33 minutes, 9 seconds90 minute rule yeah so how much growth do does would this create for that program is does does it double the
1:33:171 hour, 33 minutes, 17 secondsnumber of students that are getting on that bus or um does it affect the the East Hickman population that you have
1:33:241 hour, 33 minutes, 24 secondswhere it's a little more accessible to get to Nashville or or or you know West Nashville like CPA or something along
1:33:321 hour, 33 minutes, 32 secondsthose lines so those are all things that that we I don't know I don't know that we'll know until it it's in place and
1:33:401 hour, 33 minutes, 40 secondsyou see how what happens with it well Jody we appreciate you coming tonight anybody else got any questions that they
1:33:471 hour, 33 minutes, 47 secondscan email you do whatever and and we can you sent to Ron I I'll send those to
1:33:541 hour, 33 minutes, 54 secondsyall okay U they just they're just the J same I'm looking at them here same thing while I'm here can I ask y'all one
1:34:031 hour, 34 minutes, 3 secondsother question yes sir uh so I have a bill proposed that came to me from Lewis County director schools and and their
1:34:111 hour, 34 minutes, 11 secondsboard and I want to get you you all's input on it and it deals with the age cut off for kindergarten students right
1:34:191 hour, 34 minutes, 19 secondsnow under state law they have to be 5 years old by August 15th with some flexibility in there for for
1:34:261 hour, 34 minutes, 26 secondsthem to come I think by September 30th uh that they can come and meet with the director schools and evaluate and see if
1:34:351 hour, 34 minutes, 35 secondsthat if they meet uh some criteria to to go ahead and start kindergarten my bill
1:34:431 hour, 34 minutes, 43 secondsagain at the request of Lewis County would move that date back to June one and said you would have to be 5 years
1:34:501 hour, 34 minutes, 50 secondsold by June 1 and there would leave a 45 day period until July 15th for this additional evaluation and and the
1:34:591 hour, 34 minutes, 59 secondsmindset behind the bill is to try to eliminate 4y- olds in classes um and tighten the window of students uh the
1:35:081 hour, 35 minutes, 8 secondsrange of students that that teachers are having to to teach in that kindergarten level and prek level it wouldn't go into effect until next school year not this
1:35:171 hour, 35 minutes, 17 secondscoming school year with the 25 26 school year um so I just wanted to get some feedback from from you all as board and
1:35:241 hour, 35 minutes, 24 secondsand Mr Mullins to to say hey is that something that you all also would support and approve of I like Mr
1:35:321 hour, 35 minutes, 32 secondsmullen's rule of BM about graduating and all that do you want to repeat that yeah I kind of on the other end of the
1:35:401 hour, 35 minutes, 40 secondsspectrum well it is but if you're going to turn 18 and you're going into the 12th grade how many is going to to stick
1:35:481 hour, 35 minutes, 48 secondsaround and stick through the uh 12th grade uh but anyway I say I was a September like end of September so I
1:35:571 hour, 35 minutes, 57 secondsstart November kid yeah I started school when I was four I was 17 my first month of college so I think it's very specific
1:36:051 hour, 36 minutes, 5 secondsto the student so I would be okay with it as long as there is a condition for those students that are ready because I
1:36:141 hour, 36 minutes, 14 secondsI mean I I think if I would have been you know held back to the following I don't I mean I was ready um and so I
1:36:211 hour, 36 minutes, 21 secondsthink for those kids that are that that should be avaluable and based on my personal experience cuz I started early too um I think it's also different for
1:36:301 hour, 36 minutes, 30 secondsboys and girls it is very because I think the physical development uh is very difficult for boys when you're the
1:36:381 hour, 36 minutes, 38 secondssmallest kid in the class um and that catches up with with extracurricular activities and but it's also a social
1:36:461 hour, 36 minutes, 46 secondssocial issue when you're right yeah I mean my sister has kids that the boys that they you know were like July and she held them so it's that's why I said
1:36:541 hour, 36 minutes, 54 secondsI think it's very specific to the child so I I think there should just be some kind of um issue where if if the child's
1:37:031 hour, 37 minutes, 3 secondsyou know that's up to the parent and the school system to evaluate that child if they are ready to go if the parent what
1:37:101 hour, 37 minutes, 10 secondswe've seen statistically is as we're looking at the third grade fourth grade retention is that students that start a
1:37:171 hour, 37 minutes, 17 secondslittle bit later perform better uh on those on those testing uh so so I got a birthday in
1:37:251 hour, 37 minutes, 25 secondsSeptember and I started first grade I didn't go to kindergarten I started first grade when I was five graduated
1:37:321 hour, 37 minutes, 32 secondshigh school when I was 17 same thing apparently kindergarten was optional my parents I interested in what what John thinks
1:37:411 hour, 37 minutes, 41 secondsbut I mean yeah yes I mean we we're all me too we're all you know public servants who have opinion you are you
1:37:491 hour, 37 minutes, 49 secondsare education okay you think it's good yeah I do because sometimes uh sometimes with
1:37:571 hour, 37 minutes, 57 secondsparents it's hard to be objective with your children and U they think that child's ready for kindergarten where that child is absolutely not not ready
1:38:061 hour, 38 minutes, 6 secondswe I think in my experiences we've had children uh come to kindergarten who weren't completely potty trained and it
1:38:131 hour, 38 minutes, 13 secondsjust creates uh creates a whole difficult situation for the kindergarten teacher so I I like the idea on June one
1:38:211 hour, 38 minutes, 21 secondsbut you have a six week window to to J ju 1 I mean to July 15th yeah yeah I like that you need something in writing
1:38:281 hour, 38 minutes, 28 secondsfrom us or just a ver yeah it'd be great even if it just came from from John on on letter it would be great I had a
1:38:371 hour, 38 minutes, 37 secondsteacher years ago tell me she love fourth grade and I said why my wife talk fourth grade she said well they're they're old enough that they're body
1:38:461 hour, 38 minutes, 46 secondstrain and they St on a hook yeah yeah that makes sense y yeah p is the best two years of my life
1:38:551 hour, 38 minutes, 55 secondsgood answer well thank you all very much thank you thank you than and honestly truly if there's ever
1:39:041 hour, 39 minutes, 4 secondsanything that you all need the the reason I pass out my cell phone number is because I want you to use it um and I've talked to several of them before uh
1:39:131 hour, 39 minutes, 13 secondsso text me call me if there's anything you need anything that you hear that that I'm doing or need to be doing um or
1:39:211 hour, 39 minutes, 21 secondsyou need information just let me know that's I'm here for well I appreciate as long as I've been doing this for 20
1:39:271 hour, 39 minutes, 27 secondsyears this the first time uh we've had any I come out explain anything to us we
1:39:351 hour, 39 minutes, 35 secondsdid this all this we have to kind of figure out figure it out anytime you want to
1:39:441 hour, 39 minutes, 44 secondscome down let us know we'll work you in to discuss any of the issues of Education or all that yet yeah my
1:39:521 hour, 39 minutes, 52 secondspleasure thank thank you very much anybody yeah
1:39:581 hour, 39 minutes, 58 secondsthat's U let's take a minut
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1:52:331 hour, 52 minutes, 33 secondsif there's anything else we want to cover uh you brought up a good thing while ago but we need to decide I guess
1:52:411 hour, 52 minutes, 41 secondsI need to get some samples of uh resolutions I would there there if y'all are getting
1:52:501 hour, 52 minutes, 50 secondstspa stuff they've done out that the P of of a resolution we some County I believe there was a sample on their
1:52:581 hour, 52 minutes, 58 secondslatest newsletter that I received today from them uh we can we can kind of manipulate it move it around every we
1:53:061 hour, 53 minutes, 6 secondswant so uh and we can put some variables in there if you do this then we hor if
1:53:151 hour, 53 minutes, 15 secondsyou're not so I mean if you got ideas on it I I'll send you some I'll be I'll be transparent about it I'm sure
1:53:231 hour, 53 minutes, 23 secondsnobody here surprised about that oh I I think it's fine especially
1:53:331 hour, 53 minutes, 33 secondsthe house version the extra money it it's probably going to make those money first year it will first year you going to get an
1:53:401 hour, 53 minutes, 40 secondsextra 722b but it's what know be leaving past the second year but you won't be here next
1:53:471 hour, 53 minutes, 47 seconds[Laughter]
1:53:501 hour, 53 minutes, 50 secondsyear budget year you know you could get a a
1:54:021 hour, 54 minutes, 2 secondsdifferent governor who do away with physical note that's attached to it every year that's unmated
1:54:121 hour, 54 minutes, 12 secondsand that has to be voted on kind of bothers me along with give you some good but we're going to throw in this over
1:54:191 hour, 54 minutes, 19 secondscomputer too so why out in that one year that we had a governor that sent a lot of money that
1:54:261 hour, 54 minutes, 26 secondswe ended up getting a little less on to Memphis yeah it did that you know was there a lawsuit or something that we had
1:54:331 hour, 54 minutes, 33 secondsthat the small schools lawsuit that kind of was over be money that's where it come from yeah realistically that version of the bill will never make it
1:54:411 hour, 54 minutes, 41 secondsthrough I don't think so I don't won't I mean not that bill in the entir I appreciate Jody Barrett wanting all
1:54:491 hour, 54 minutes, 49 secondsThree Counties input to make yeah I think yeah that was well say
1:54:581 hour, 54 minutes, 58 secondsthat so yeah I I mean I would at least want to I would motion and vote for a
1:55:061 hour, 55 minutes, 6 secondsresolution to support it the house version maybe worded such that it's the house version is that your motion you want us to vote on it now I think we got
1:55:131 hour, 55 minutes, 13 secondsto have a we need resolu think we have a need to resolution written before we can vote on it but yeah I think so I I think there's no harm in me I just kind of
1:55:211 hour, 55 minutes, 21 secondstelling you what my opinion is well I'd like to hear director sco opin and he s
1:55:271 hour, 55 minutes, 27 secondsthat I was I support that I I I when I was going through when we was going through that power I was glad he was
1:55:361 hour, 55 minutes, 36 secondshere because he understood things that I didn't as he was going through it and so I would like to hear
1:55:431 hour, 55 minutes, 43 secondsfrom what what he think and he was taking a lot of notes and had a lot of N St uh I think
1:55:501 hour, 55 minutes, 50 secondsthey I think it's inevitable that that that it's going to happen Alabama just passed it and he he
1:55:591 hour, 55 minutes, 59 secondssaid that Georgia just passed it uh and I appreciate the fact that there has been an effort with within of this
1:56:071 hour, 56 minutes, 7 secondslegislation to help us to help small schools
1:56:141 hour, 56 minutes, 14 secondsum without the house the house version is much more favorable for us than the Senate version so I think uh
1:56:231 hour, 56 minutes, 23 secondsI think we should adopt a resolution supporting the house Merion yeah def that's the only one I would
1:56:301 hour, 56 minutes, 30 secondsconsider and then they go to negotiate and see what comes out of that we could possibly change our change our
1:56:381 hour, 56 minutes, 38 secondsresolution to support the later version whatever that's a that's I have I have one concern uh that
1:56:471 hour, 56 minutes, 47 secondsI the reason why states have a lot of money right now is because from
1:56:531 hour, 56 minutes, 53 seconds2019 through 2022 they had unbelievable amounts of federal money so so all state
1:57:001 hour, 57 minutescoffers are as full as they are they have ever been and this is probably a
1:57:061 hour, 57 minutes, 6 secondsgood time to initiate something that is uh how many million dollars was it well
1:57:141 hour, 57 minutes, 14 secondsdepending on if you're out house or I think yeah the house was up to like 3 it was 20 it was 20 it 20,000 students is
1:57:231 hour, 57 minutes, 23 seconds$7,000 1.4 1.4 billion that's the first year yeah that's but but now but now is
1:57:301 hour, 57 minutes, 30 secondsan ideal time because well as the federal money flow to States and school districts through
1:57:391 hour, 57 minutes, 39 secondsrelief funds there's money long-term concern I have as the economy fluctuates and stakers have less
1:57:481 hour, 57 minutes, 48 secondsmoney in the future it's going to put them in a difficult situation because if I have been providing you a 10 years or
1:57:561 hour, 57 minutes, 56 secondseight years of scholarship for your child and now that's no longer available they will have to make tough decisions
1:58:031 hour, 58 minutes, 3 secondswhat should we support this or we're going to cut back on public schools so there is some
1:58:101 hour, 58 minutes, 10 secondslongterm uh concern but it's not just education either you know you've got to
1:58:171 hour, 58 minutes, 17 secondstake into account like 10 care yeah you know that kind they're going to that's going to to be looked at do we cut this
1:58:241 hour, 58 minutes, 24 secondsdo we you know there's going have to be cuts and just like we do a budget and we have to figure out where to cut there's a lot of moving Parts in their budget
1:58:321 hour, 58 minutes, 32 secondstoo so so to to move on how yall like the idea that Mr gammons and I uh draft
1:58:391 hour, 58 minutes, 39 secondsa uh resolution supporting it especially the house version and and have it on the agenda on April
1:58:491 hour, 58 minutes, 49 seconds8th that sounds good that sounds good you make get make motion make a motion
1:58:561 hour, 58 minutes, 56 secondsto yeah we're making we're in meeting so yeah you make motion it up since I kind of suggested it was a good idea I'll
1:59:041 hour, 59 minutes, 4 secondsmake a motion that Mr Mullins and Mr gammons draft a resolution supporting the house virgin of the scholarship Bill
1:59:141 hour, 59 minutes, 14 secondsand bring it for vote Freedom Act Freedom Act bring it for vote at the April 8th board meeting I'll second that
1:59:211 hour, 59 minutes, 21 secondsall in faor say I that gives us time to hear from our I'm sorry but it does give us time to
1:59:291 hour, 59 minutes, 29 secondshear from our constitu I mean I've already heard from uh one person this evening before I got here and they was
1:59:361 hour, 59 minutes, 36 secondsjust totally against it refer to as voucher they said it's going to just take money from our school district and
1:59:451 hour, 59 minutes, 45 secondsand so that he this person was a former employee of the school district so has a lot of friends
1:59:531 hour, 59 minutes, 53 secondsdo so I just assume they've been they've been discussing this and and you're right because one of things
2:00:012 hours, 1 secondthat we've seen tonight is a lot of stuff that we've been hearing is not brilliant right that's right and that's what that's that happens all the time
2:00:092 hours, 9 secondsand if they watch this they'll yeah see that right and that gives them people that that you know our
2:00:172 hours, 17 secondsdistricts from the communities to to yeah to U digested you
2:00:242 hours, 24 secondsknow I think I think it's important that he said this without some level of the incentives
2:00:322 hours, 32 secondsthat will help small districts and Rural districts he doesn't think it'll pass he said he wouldn't vote for yes I he and basically our The Three Counties he's
2:00:412 hours, 41 secondstalking about are all small districts and I I took that Jody supported the house that's how I read it the way it's
2:00:502 hours, 50 secondsWR yeah these but I think I think that's where he stands on it but I really appreciate that he wants input from
2:00:572 hours, 57 secondsschool right I mean that is the best way for him to represent I think he also understands
2:01:082 hours, 1 minute, 8 secondsthat there are a lot of misconceptions about vouchers and that's why he's going and talking to the boards to try to explain
2:01:152 hours, 1 minute, 15 secondswhat it really is um and it and it is not the evil voucher bill that I think a lot of
2:01:222 hours, 1 minute, 22 secondspeople have it's feared for some it's a separate fund than Tissa and all that and that's what people don't
2:01:292 hours, 1 minute, 29 secondsunderstand which he's trying to get out there and let everybody know that and I appreciate that one thing I don't like about it though is that the private
2:01:372 hours, 1 minute, 37 secondsschools that are getting the funds are not subjected to the same requirements that we are I do not like that they do not have
2:01:462 hours, 1 minute, 46 secondsto take you over with exceptionalities and they do not have to submit themselves to uh these assessments that we and that's not fair in my I mean
2:01:552 hours, 1 minute, 55 secondsthey're getting the same amount of money we are basically if you get the public money you should have the public accountability we have over the years
2:02:042 hours, 2 minutes, 4 secondsI've heard of a lot of I've heard of a lot of parents that bring their children to hickin County because they appreciate
2:02:122 hours, 2 minutes, 12 secondsthe special education programs that we have here and there's there's been several of them in the last 30 years
2:02:192 hours, 2 minutes, 19 secondsthat I have known it's because we have excellent program here for our special in we we try to meet their needs and do
2:02:262 hours, 2 minutes, 26 secondswhat thank what we require and onal of our teachers thank you all right before
2:02:322 hours, 2 minutes, 32 secondswe get into next topic can we talk just for a minute about this email from you
2:02:392 hours, 2 minutes, 39 secondson about YouTube I'd rather us popone it at this point in time but I mean you can talk about it if you want to we talk
2:02:472 hours, 2 minutes, 47 secondsabout meeting I mean we're in a meeting well you said I'd rather it's stti with budget stuff since that's
2:02:552 hours, 2 minutes, 55 secondswhat we've scheduled tonight okay and and there's been some other transi
2:03:022 hours, 3 minutes, 2 secondsso okay we go from there next meeting put it on the next
2:03:102 hours, 3 minutes, 10 secondsyeah but since it don't have to do with budget let's just pass it on that's fine with me all right just it on the agenda
2:03:172 hours, 3 minutes, 17 secondsactually and basically let said budget was jod uh the resolution which all has to do with
2:03:252 hours, 3 minutes, 25 secondsfunding is there anything else that comes to mind that we would like to see in budget or whatever I was happy to
2:03:332 hours, 3 minutes, 33 secondshear that there was money in separate for our raises for pict I hear that I heard that correctly
2:03:412 hours, 3 minutes, 41 secondsright it is still in the TSA formula not a separate money decent
2:03:492 hours, 3 minutes, 49 secondscalul he was saying it was separate from increase got yeah and we don't know what that it's in his budget
2:03:572 hours, 3 minutes, 57 secondsto that increase that should help and then
2:04:042 hours, 4 minutes, 4 secondsyeah that was a concern of M so that should help us on what number we should
2:04:122 hours, 4 minutes, 12 secondsnot be jumping ahead I think our big question was last thing is how much are we willing to go into the fund balance
2:04:182 hours, 4 minutes, 18 secondsyeah I was going to say I I I I kind of gave my spill the last meeting I'm
2:04:262 hours, 4 minutes, 26 secondsawfully tired tonight so you've already said you already said it but I I think a good use of our time
2:04:362 hours, 4 minutes, 36 secondsin this session would be would be talk about um arrive at a value if we can but
2:04:452 hours, 4 minutes, 45 secondsto talk about how much we have planned past years you know kind of
2:04:532 hours, 4 minutes, 53 secondsplanned uh spending level you know the 90 something percent you know what did we kind of plan around
2:05:012 hours, 5 minutes, 1 secondand then and then at that spending level how much did we project we were going to go into fund balance prior years because
2:05:092 hours, 5 minutes, 9 secondsthat's a that's a value that I've noticed is important because it sets the revenue level I know we don't have the
2:05:152 hours, 5 minutes, 15 secondsrevenues yet so we don't know we don't know that information yet but well we know we went do you have that
2:05:252 hours, 5 minutes, 25 secondslike last year year before how about you know what was our expected fund balance dip if we were at the projected spending
2:05:332 hours, 5 minutes, 33 secondslevel of whatever it is 90 something per. yeah I can my history is only one
2:05:432 hours, 5 minutes, 43 secondsyear here's what here's here is what we know we're 200 students
2:05:492 hours, 5 minutes, 49 secondsless so that's time the $7,000 that we talked about $1.4 million and Esser is
2:05:572 hours, 5 minutes, 57 secondsexpiring and we have been we have depend been dependent upon as Sir there's probably about 15 employees throughout
2:06:052 hours, 6 minutes, 5 secondsthe district that are employed by S and project aware uh is
2:06:132 hours, 6 minutes, 13 secondsuh the funding for it isim 300,000 yeah so those are the those are the things we know what we don't
2:06:222 hours, 6 minutes, 22 secondsknow uh is our is is our funding but Mr Elkins and I look back on last
2:06:282 hours, 6 minutes, 28 secondsyear uh well one other thing that we know is
2:06:362 hours, 6 minutes, 36 secondsuh we pay less we we pay less than uh uh Lewis
2:06:432 hours, 6 minutes, 43 secondsMurray Dixon and Williamson County of course and we're and we are obligated to increase our
2:06:522 hours, 6 minutes, 52 secondsstarting salaries of of our teachers from 44,000 96 $96 to
2:07:002 hours, 7 minutes$50,000 uh by 2627 by the beginning of 2627 so we know we have to do that so uh
2:07:082 hours, 7 minutes, 8 secondslooking back on last year here here's all that prefaces your question last year uh when we got to the budget time
2:07:162 hours, 7 minutes, 16 secondswe had a accessible amount of capital of of
2:07:232 hours, 7 minutes, 23 secondsexcuse me of reserve of $9 million now the reserve is bigger than that because of insurance op yeah yeah yeah but
2:07:332 hours, 7 minutes, 33 secondsthat's not something that and in fact we're required to keep some of them out in our Reserve so even
2:07:412 hours, 7 minutes, 41 secondsthe 9 Milli I don't think right right Mike I mean keep certain percentage there is a 9 million
2:07:492 hours, 7 minutes, 49 secondsthat is available that is not tied to other things that's I'm sign the state reserves keep State
2:07:582 hours, 7 minutes, 58 secondsreserves you to keep 3% 3% of your budget so so our budget is
2:08:032 hours, 8 minutes, 3 secondsuh our budget is $36 million so a many Bucks uh yeah a little little over a
2:08:122 hours, 8 minutes, 12 secondslittle over so uh last year we gave our employees a 6% raise and we were they
2:08:202 hours, 8 minutes, 20 secondssaid it was closer to with the SP seven yes but yes some employees got more than that because they got they moved to an additional step so it ended
2:08:282 hours, 8 minutes, 28 secondsup being for some employees end up being even as high as a 9% raise because they had a step raise in addition we
2:08:352 hours, 8 minutes, 35 secondsincreased each step and and and we were willing to dip at the time we had a $9 million balance and we were willing to
2:08:432 hours, 8 minutes, 43 secondsdip $2.2 million into that balance but we H right now at the end of
2:08:522 hours, 8 minutes, 52 secondsat the end of February we don't think we're going to dip 2.2 million we think we're going to dip 1.2 million we think
2:08:592 hours, 8 minutes, 59 secondswhen the when the dust settles on June 30th we have we will have used $1.2 of our $9
2:09:072 hours, 9 minutes, 7 secondsmillion uh account and so we we're thinking we're going to be around $7.8 million now we did that uh by being
2:09:162 hours, 9 minutes, 16 secondsconservative but we also did it by taking a couple items off of the capital Improvement plan for instance there was
2:09:242 hours, 9 minutes, 24 secondsa there was like reseal the bricks at East Hickman mids schope I don't even know what that was about but I went to East hman Middle School I talked to the
2:09:322 hours, 9 minutes, 32 secondsmaintenance man we don't have water getting in the building so we took the resealing of the bricks off and and we postpone some things uh we have
2:09:412 hours, 9 minutes, 41 secondsintercoms in a couple schools that they get they're Troublesome but they're still working so we by postponing some
2:09:492 hours, 9 minutes, 49 secondscapital projects we're only going to De $1.2 million approximately and and we right
2:09:582 hours, 9 minutes, 58 secondsthat's that's the estimate right now and then 2.2 was did you say 2.2 was yes our
2:10:042 hours, 10 minutes, 4 secondswilling to do at for spend at spin percentage right because the what's that mean when when we were measuring the
2:10:122 hours, 10 minutes, 12 secondspercentage saying that we would be at about 94% because there is yeah and it was like 2 we never spend the full budget
2:10:202 hours, 10 minutes, 20 secondsabout spent the full budget amount it would have it was going to be more than 2.2 I don't remember that number but the number that mattered more was
2:10:282 hours, 10 minutes, 28 secondshistorically we know what our spend percentage is if it's 94% you know what was the Deb
2:10:362 hours, 10 minutes, 36 secondsplanned and that that was 2.2 and and right now as as we sit here with a Viewpoint from March 20th we think we're
2:10:432 hours, 10 minutes, 43 secondsgoing to have we think we're going to have an actual dip of 1.2 and the available what was the and the and there was
2:10:522 hours, 10 minutes, 52 secondsavailable yes and so if we if we if our projection of a 1.2 dip is accurate we will have
2:10:592 hours, 10 minutes, 59 seconds$7.8 million of Reserve so the biggest thing for us I
2:11:062 hours, 11 minutes, 6 secondslearned is is the salaries people were right and salaries of the benefits that's the big one 60 63
2:11:152 hours, 11 minutes, 15 seconds64% of our budget is salaries and benefits okay so so but have we
2:11:222 hours, 11 minutes, 22 secondsdetermined there is some uh legal requirements for steps of getting to this 50 right and so what what is that
2:11:312 hours, 11 minutes, 31 secondswe went above it last year I mean was it 2% this year or 2% I mean that percentage or number right R what you talk about that I just think you have to
2:11:392 hours, 11 minutes, 39 secondsbe $50,000 by 26 we want to do something to us last fall
2:11:472 hours, 11 minutes, 47 secondstsba something take a set percentage but it's a it's a set amount set amount in steps so we got to
2:11:562 hours, 11 minutes, 56 secondsdetermine how much we're going to yeah our starting salary when we get to school year 26 27 has to be has to be a
2:12:052 hours, 12 minutes, 5 secondsminimum of $50,000 I'm trying to terine how much of that we want to go after this year uh Mr Elkins and I have been
2:12:112 hours, 12 minutes, 11 secondstalking and meeting uh uh we think that uh
2:12:172 hours, 12 minutes, 17 seconds2% we we think we think if we go 5% for the next three years our starting salary
2:12:252 hours, 12 minutes, 25 secondswill be approximately $52,000 45% will get you there but but but on the other side are you
2:12:332 hours, 12 minutes, 33 secondssaying are you saying are you saying this that's that 50 number is for the the the entry level right so are we
2:12:422 hours, 12 minutes, 42 secondssaying that five you are you you and y'all saying that 4 and a half% is for uh all the teachers VOR teachers too I
2:12:502 hours, 12 minutes, 50 secondsmean it's all want to raise the yeah okay I mean you can't you can't raise you have to raise it all equally
2:12:592 hours, 12 minutes, 59 secondsyeah but you can't make it such that our our bracket is the first five years you make the same amount of money understand
2:13:062 hours, 13 minutes, 6 secondshow the same so how much that number is that number anybody having the percent I
2:13:122 hours, 13 minutes, 12 secondsmean the dollar I mean ask again I mean I mean how much so trying get how much how much are you you
2:13:212 hours, 13 minutes, 21 secondstalking about increase dollars wise so 5% and this is just a rough estimate would be about
2:13:282 hours, 13 minutes, 28 seconds1.5 if you didn't across the board okay with with off no I think I thought what was asking was what percent would get us
2:13:362 hours, 13 minutes, 36 secondsto 50K for engine 4.5
2:13:442 hours, 13 minutes, 44 seconds4.5 dollar amount that yeah I think there's I think there's a dueling CH
2:13:502 hours, 13 minutes, 50 secondslike challenge here we have the legislative challenge of Legally getting to the 50,000 but we also have a
2:13:592 hours, 13 minutes, 59 secondschallenge to pay our employees as much as we can pay them to remain competitive with neighboring school
2:14:062 hours, 14 minutes, 6 secondsdistricts and we and John before you came on board I can tell you that this
2:14:132 hours, 14 minutes, 13 secondsboard has done many many very healthy increases to teachers right so no in my opinion no
2:14:232 hours, 14 minutes, 23 secondsnobody should be able to say that our board you know has not done good stuff some really good
2:14:312 hours, 14 minutes, 31 secondsR and I'm surprised when you said that we make we pay less than all those counties uh we pay less than L we didn't
2:14:382 hours, 14 minutes, 38 secondsas a couple years ago and we we had all that data look at our early years are very competitive lat years where we get
2:14:462 hours, 14 minutes, 46 secondskilled yes Absolut AB but then year we up some of the later year we did we didn't catch them
2:14:542 hours, 14 minutes, 54 secondsgoing absolutely Mr M Mr you know more about last year when we gave a 6% raise Murray County gave a what Murray County
2:15:032 hours, 15 minutes, 3 secondsgave I believe a 10% raise M they beat us yeah and and but we can
2:15:102 hours, 15 minutes, 10 secondstheir goal was their main competitor was lome County so they want to exceed Williamson but that draws were in a
2:15:192 hours, 15 minutes, 19 secondsunique location who we bought up against which is not beneficial to us but even
2:15:252 hours, 15 minutes, 25 secondsLe even Lewis County in most steps and most degrees are pay they pay a little more than
2:15:322 hours, 15 minutes, 32 secondsus so just for more columns on my little table and make here so this year our 141
2:15:412 hours, 15 minutes, 41 secondsbudget was 30 six is that originally
2:15:492 hours, 15 minutes, 49 secondsthe budgeted number was 38 something but
2:15:562 hours, 15 minutes, 56 secondsum that was the right okay so
2:16:032 hours, 16 minutes, 3 secondsum so that is so do do you know from let's so let's
2:16:102 hours, 16 minutes, 10 secondsgo back so that was 2024 it's Year we're in now do you know and this would probably be question one for Mike
2:16:172 hours, 16 minutes, 17 secondsprevious year what you know how much we elected to go into fund balance and how much we actually went I think it was
2:16:262 hours, 16 minutes, 26 secondsZero the previous year wasn't it we didn't go into fund balance at all two years ago thought we expected to
2:16:332 hours, 16 minutes, 33 secondsbut we end not two years ago we we thought we would hit fund balance between six and a million but you're
2:16:412 hours, 16 minutes, 41 secondsdealing with that sir and the way funds can be spent and so that kept us from going in the year before that we thought
2:16:482 hours, 16 minutes, 48 secondswe would hit somewhere between possibly Break Even to half a million
2:16:552 hours, 16 minutes, 55 secondsfund balance we ended up being under again so so 23 and 22 we both
2:17:022 hours, 17 minutes, 2 secondsended up not hitting fun balance so this year will be kind of be the first time we put fun balance but we talked about that last year we were like we want to
2:17:092 hours, 17 minutes, 9 secondshit that's exactly what I said I said in fact I think I said something that there
2:17:152 hours, 17 minutes, 15 secondsare people who would think we smart Alex um that we had better it yeah I mean there were I was just
2:17:232 hours, 17 minutes, 23 secondskidding I know you're saying you give he the the what put us in the fun bance last year
2:17:312 hours, 17 minutes, 31 secondswas the was the r right correct and so and then but I hear that you we in the past we give Healthy raises but we
2:17:382 hours, 17 minutes, 38 secondsdidn't hit the funb the budget's got a thousand moving part yeah and that's one of that's one
2:17:462 hours, 17 minutes, 46 secondsof the reasons why I just philosophically I'd like and this is my opinion we we
2:17:542 hours, 17 minutes, 54 secondscan talk about it and see what you guys all think I would like us to us as the
2:18:002 hours, 18 minutesboard to set this kind of okay from a from a re from a spend it and fund balance this the out we're comfortable
2:18:072 hours, 18 minutes, 7 secondswith then you know task John and his team to try to navigate those thousand
2:18:162 hours, 18 minutes, 16 secondsmoving Parts because we've never been really good at those thousand different moving Parts in
2:18:232 hours, 18 minutes, 23 secondsboard meetings and then I'd like them to to bring so their first run at the budget which will still have estimates
2:18:312 hours, 18 minutes, 31 secondsestimate revenue and all that other kind of stuff but can already be balanced to the amount that we're saying that we're willing to go in fund balance when when
2:18:392 hours, 18 minutes, 39 secondsyou get the revenue information so I would I would like to see John's team work up a balanced budget for us and
2:18:472 hours, 18 minutes, 47 secondsthen we can pick it a part then we can what I was that while ago watch the number for the 42% we need 3 years of
2:18:562 hours, 18 minutes, 56 seconds42% to get to 50 so we know that 45% that that's what drove the fun that's
2:19:032 hours, 19 minutes, 3 secondswhat drove the 1.2 million it's a bunch of stuff did that's that 4 and a half% is one part there's 999 Other
2:19:102 hours, 19 minutes, 10 secondsM what I'm trying to do is get arrive at I'm not trying to figure it out I'm trying to arrive at that number you're wanting so that's a starting Place 42%
2:19:192 hours, 19 minutes, 19 secondsfor benefits and or or wages and B salary benefits is that what we're saying or just
2:19:272 hours, 19 minutes, 27 secondssalary also increase the other part of the same yeah that barely get us the 50 the four and a half five five five well
2:19:342 hours, 19 minutes, 34 secondswe say five we say it's five this this year we do five get ahead of it so and get us so and that would be my number to
2:19:442 hours, 19 minutes, 44 secondsbe comfortable with going into the fun B I think so but so I think I sorry here let me make this point really
2:19:522 hours, 19 minutes, 52 secondsquick I agree with you and I think I'm going to rephrase what you said and tell me if you agree okay so
2:20:012 hours, 20 minutes, 1 secondkind of what I was saying philosophically we set some like high level goals right for the administrative
2:20:072 hours, 20 minutes, 7 secondsteam to work to use to work on a on a on a on a balance budget one of those is how much you go to fund balance another one may be a goal of how much we want to
2:20:162 hours, 20 minutes, 16 secondsdo raises right so we can set more than one goal yeah but they're kind of tied together well no no they're not they're
2:20:242 hours, 20 minutes, 24 secondsabsolutely not how much we decide to go into fund balance has nothing to do with how much we decid to get ra well that's what drove it I just asked the question
2:20:312 hours, 20 minutes, 31 secondsthey said they're not linked it's a it's a completely different it's just it's the amount of value that we're
2:20:392 hours, 20 minutes, 39 secondswilling know what historically what happened this year is was that that our 6% race last year put us into the fund
2:20:462 hours, 20 minutes, 46 secondsbalance that's that's what m said and we wanted to show the county commission that we were going yeah do our so if we
2:20:542 hours, 20 minutes, 54 secondsdo five this year would it should be a little less what what 2 million I mean to y'all right now for just a
2:21:012 hours, 21 minutes, 1 secondsecond y'all did say that they had the teacher salary thing that we got from tsba I just pulled up the email where
2:21:092 hours, 21 minutes, 9 secondsthey send us the district slides our basic our lowest amount is like 42 something right now
2:21:192 hours, 21 minutes, 19 secondsright6 44 what 0 96 okay so we're almost to what they said we have to be this year we have to be
2:21:272 hours, 21 minutes, 27 seconds445 yeah that's what they say we have to be next year I knew there was something there something out there to be so they
2:21:352 hours, 21 minutes, 35 secondsgive us minimum things each year that doesn't show up until June and so what
2:21:422 hours, 21 minutes, 42 secondswe you can get sometimes you get the base in May and then if you remember we've had to come back and change
2:21:512 hours, 21 minutes, 51 secondsone or two not the whole things but one or two salary lines in that whole page
2:21:582 hours, 21 minutes, 58 secondsbecause it didn't meet their minimum at those certain years but we generally don't get that until after we done the budget we know what the
2:22:062 hours, 22 minutes, 6 secondsminimum probably is because we're already ahead of it we got the minimum when we were there from what the state
2:22:142 hours, 22 minutes, 14 secondssays that it has to be so 20 24 2025 has to be 445 20 25 26 has to be
2:22:232 hours, 22 minutes, 23 seconds47,000 and then 2026 2027 is when you got to hit F50 last year the whole deal about the
2:22:312 hours, 22 minutes, 31 secondsfunds about about her salaries and everything was everybody around us especially Murray County salaries went
2:22:392 hours, 22 minutes, 39 seconds10% right or so they were competing with each other and we tried to get as close as we could to it and so we could keep
2:22:492 hours, 22 minutes, 49 secondsthose people that's what we did now we don't have a clue what they're going to do now you talk
2:22:562 hours, 22 minutes, 56 secondsabout so sh what was the point you were making you're getting at the point is is that there are set amounts that it has
2:23:032 hours, 23 minutes, 3 secondsyeah I earlier I mean that's what I was trying so back to the topic of how much to go into fund balance and why it's
2:23:102 hours, 23 minutes, 10 secondscompletely disconnected from anything else okay and here here's why we had nine we went into fund balance 2.2 now
2:23:182 hours, 23 minutes, 18 secondswe got 7.8 if we plan to go in two or whatever the or we went in 1.2 I just
2:23:272 hours, 23 minutes, 27 secondswrote it down so now we have 7.8 7.9 or 7.9 so let's say the next year we plan to go into it goes down another million
2:23:352 hours, 23 minutes, 35 secondsit goes down another Milli well guess what three four years from now we're not even going to get to make this decision it's going to be made for us because our
2:23:432 hours, 23 minutes, 43 secondsfund balance will be gone it doesn't matter what the salary requirements are it matter how much you want to spend on what once that fun balance is gone it's
2:23:502 hours, 23 minutes, 50 secondsgone right it's a recurring expense that 1.2 is so that's why that's how to
2:23:582 hours, 23 minutes, 58 secondsdecide it's a risk it's you know you have to make sure it's temporary because it can't be permanent because you'll run
2:24:052 hours, 24 minutes, 5 secondsit out right so that's the that's the decision that is to me a a big
2:24:152 hours, 24 minutes, 15 secondsdecision fortunately represent bar said there was money that's what I haven't heard nobody able to tell me since I've been on
2:24:232 hours, 24 minutes, 23 secondsschool board or nobody not this here is there any money following this mandate to raise teachers salaries from 40 to 50
2:24:322 hours, 24 minutes, 32 secondswhen we at 40 when I I got so what I'm saying is so there is money so that we don't have all of it's not recurring
2:24:402 hours, 24 minutes, 40 secondsbecause we're getting money in added for for this race there is money in the governor's budget yes the
2:24:492 hours, 24 minutes, 49 secondsgovernor the govern budget is it come to us through T right
2:24:582 hours, 24 minutes, 58 secondswell but but generally we would get it in April but right now we're not going to get said it was
2:25:052 hours, 25 minutes, 5 secondsfirst right now right now in the in the
2:25:122 hours, 25 minutes, 12 secondsit's it's going to be estimates of what the revenue is Mike up here that's going to be estimates of what the revenue is
2:25:202 hours, 25 minutes, 20 secondsthen come may I think Jody said early May or something like that we'll find out what the piece of money's going to be right and we'll estimate the revenue
2:25:292 hours, 25 minutes, 29 seconds266 million we'll argue with the County Commission try to get some more money and stuff like that I think we can make a good case now because we we said you
2:25:362 hours, 25 minutes, 36 secondsknow if you don't give us more money we have to go on fund balance and we would we will have go on fund balance but the
2:25:432 hours, 25 minutes, 43 secondspoint of that being I'd like to be able to give John
2:25:512 hours, 25 minutes, 51 secondsand his team some general guidance you know and then let them
2:25:582 hours, 25 minutes, 58 secondsgollar you're saying dollar guance right okay so that's what we're trying to get at but let's start at 2.2 right yeah
2:26:072 hours, 26 minutes, 7 secondsthat's what we that's what we kind of decided to do last year uh is we if we spent ATS expected spin level and keep
2:26:162 hours, 26 minutes, 16 secondsin mind that the full budget is going to show a bigger deficit than 2.2 but we always know that our spend level is less
2:26:252 hours, 26 minutes, 25 secondswell you have to yeah because you budget for like every single person get heal insurance and stuff like that realistically you should should
2:26:332 hours, 26 minutes, 33 secondshave you should do that I mean here's what here's what the thing we got to look at down the road yes we're going to get that uh we've got 200 students we
2:26:422 hours, 26 minutes, 42 secondsgot to deal with all right that plays the important down the road because unless we do something with the staff
2:26:492 hours, 26 minutes, 49 secondsthat we have that is going to be more that's what I was gonna ask the T the money the extra money that's budgeted in
2:26:562 hours, 26 minutes, 56 secondsthe governor's budget that comes through Tissa that's probably going to be dependent on the amount of students right so if our student population is
2:27:042 hours, 27 minutes, 4 secondsless we're we're really not getting runs a year behind it based on last
2:27:142 hours, 27 minutes, 14 secondsyear yeah it's like you said they need to do it just like they normally do and come
2:27:232 hours, 27 minutes, 23 secondsback with us just like Mike does with the budget we just need to come up with the Fig well what we haven't done in the past that what I'm saying I think we I
2:27:322 hours, 27 minutes, 32 secondsthink we should do this time is give them a goal to balance it and and I think we never told Michelle I don't
2:27:412 hours, 27 minutes, 41 secondsthink we ever gave you guys hey there's a certain amount that we want to go and fund balance we kind of did that at the end after we had already expended a
2:27:482 hours, 27 minutes, 48 secondsbunch of energy making multiple bugs and then kind of going back and forth then we were like I guess we need to decide how much we want to fund balance I think we should
2:27:562 hours, 27 minutes, 56 secondsdo I've dealt with this like in my old life you know we would we would do it was forecast and we would forecast real
2:28:042 hours, 28 minutes, 4 secondsearly for these bakeries to put out products for for two lives and then they would get there and they'll say well we
2:28:132 hours, 28 minutes, 13 secondsyou know we don't have it all we can't keep up then we' have to go back in and I said just give us a number and we'll back into the the number I think it's
2:28:212 hours, 28 minutes, 21 secondswhat you're saying that's what I'm saying that way you not that at the last minute and that way is is fair who gets
2:28:292 hours, 28 minutes, 29 secondscut if you had you know right there's going to be in this budget here's the other re this budget is going
2:28:372 hours, 28 minutes, 37 secondsto be a hard yeah okay right because there's a lot of emplo I think there's
2:28:442 hours, 28 minutes, 44 secondsthere's going to be a lot of stuff that I think there's going to be a lot of hard decisions to make and I want John
2:28:512 hours, 28 minutes, 51 secondsinvolved in those decisions and I want him to have enough time to meet with this team as much as he wants to to
2:28:592 hours, 28 minutes, 59 secondsbounce all those decisions off the wall and be a to come to us and say look we have to make hard sacrifices me and my team have spent lots of time trying to
2:29:082 hours, 29 minutes, 8 secondsfigure out where we have to make these hard sacrifices this is what we recommend and then and then we can like we like we always do and should so it is
2:29:162 hours, 29 minutes, 16 secondsdifferent go through it and pick out yeah I mean because answer's gone aware is gone where funding's gone fing
2:29:242 hours, 29 minutes, 24 secondsG population down but this is going to be a harder why couldn't this have waited one
2:29:332 hours, 29 minutes, 33 secondsmore year and I so what so why are you what's the formula for it may I may I speak yes sir please
2:29:442 hours, 29 minutes, 44 secondsum when in uh Mr Elin and
2:29:512 hours, 29 minutes, 51 secondsand uh when we met well before I say this tonight shows
2:29:592 hours, 29 minutes, 59 secondsyou that we we we just don't have all the pieces right now if the house version fully passes we're going to get
2:30:082 hours, 30 minutes, 8 seconds$700,000 additional money if that that house version so we don't have all the p i fig I thought figured year one would
2:30:152 hours, 30 minutes, 15 secondsbe the next year would be the year after no year one would be next school
2:30:222 hours, 30 minutes, 22 secondsyeah and they're still waiting but but here but here's what
2:30:292 hours, 30 minutes, 29 secondshere's here is where we left our conversation and uh I I agree with your concept totally you you give us a Target
2:30:382 hours, 30 minutes, 38 secondsand we try to get there and what we hoped that the target would be was this last year you said to us we're going to
2:30:462 hours, 30 minutes, 46 secondslet you go 2.2 deep but we're not going 2.2 we're only going 1.2 so if you would
2:30:542 hours, 30 minutes, 54 secondsgive us another 2.2 Target we don't think especially if the house version passes we don't think
2:31:022 hours, 31 minutes, 2 secondswe will have to go that deep but it but you suggested a 2.2 that is the exact same amount that Mike and I talk about
2:31:112 hours, 31 minutes, 11 secondstoday there you go is that is that accurate let's see and we have d doome as a witness let me ask you a question make
2:31:202 hours, 31 minutes, 20 secondssure I understand didn't you say a few minutes ago assuming 4 and a half or 5% ra the basic
2:31:282 hours, 31 minutes, 28 secondsimpact to that is a million plus a million five so basically if nothing else changes but we have to meet this
2:31:382 hours, 31 minutes, 38 secondssalary we're going to e up half the fund balance in the next three years if nothing else Chang I mean I'm trying to
2:31:452 hours, 31 minutes, 45 secondsget just a rule of Fone here you're you're having a you're going from a base
2:31:522 hours, 31 minutes, 52 secondsin the proposed of 6840 6820 I forget what the P base is right now it's one of those two numbers to what's proposed
2:32:012 hours, 32 minutes, 1 secondaccording to the Department of Education is 7200 base so you're getting
2:32:082 hours, 32 minutes, 8 secondsa300 some odd dollar per student just on the base side that's increases that and
2:32:152 hours, 32 minutes, 15 secondsthat's where that portion of the come in I was about to say there's there's a lot
2:32:232 hours, 32 minutes, 23 secondsand that's where that always comes in I know I've said this already but Tisa is one of the moving parts and
2:32:312 hours, 32 minutes, 31 secondsand Tisa is going to go up so you can't predict right now that it's going to be 1.5 every year at all I just trying to get just a
2:32:382 hours, 32 minutes, 38 secondshandle I mean if you look thinking real long term what they put up here tonight you're talking about turning the
2:32:452 hours, 32 minutes, 45 secondsfinance in the school system completely upside down in the next 10 years I mean so the other thing that that I think
2:32:542 hours, 32 minutes, 54 secondsfactors into it another one of the mov Parts is if we have 200 less 200 less students we have 200 less students we
2:33:012 hours, 33 minutes, 1 seconddon't need as many head count right we we shouldn't have as much head count we we we um we are trying to build across K
2:33:102 hours, 33 minutes, 10 secondsto 12 um Master schedules for next year that are effective Master schedules they're Equitable Master schedules where
2:33:192 hours, 33 minutes, 19 secondswe people share the workload throughout the district fairly but they're also efficient Master schedules there there
2:33:262 hours, 33 minutes, 26 secondsare Pathways for us to become more efficient as a district now we're hoping that those uh Pursuits of efficiency can
2:33:352 hours, 33 minutes, 35 secondscome through attrition as right when employees retire when employees leave the district on
2:33:422 hours, 33 minutes, 42 secondstheir own that is our pathway but our district needs to become more efficient we we acknowledge that and and that is
2:33:502 hours, 33 minutes, 50 secondspart of the solution to what you're talking about we we cannot deplete our reserve and here we
2:33:582 hours, 33 minutes, 58 secondsare back to back years going into it we we were 9 million we said we're going 2.2 but we're only going 1.2 but if you
2:34:062 hours, 34 minutes, 6 secondswould let us begin the process with another 2.2 then if the house version passes we know that the 2.2 then could
2:34:152 hours, 34 minutes, 15 secondsbecome 1.5 it's it's just a good starting point point and I like your concept we get the
2:34:222 hours, 34 minutes, 22 secondsother million yeah there there's so much ifs about budget of the governor's
2:34:292 hours, 34 minutes, 29 secondsbudget yeah I was surprised when Jody said that some of this information is not going to come out till May which is
2:34:362 hours, 34 minutes, 36 secondsyou know I'm just kind of put some back back two up in a corner yeah U this is this is useless excuse me I'm sorry this
2:34:442 hours, 34 minutes, 44 secondsis useless to say this in my last my now what I'm saying what I'm saying is
2:34:522 hours, 34 minutes, 52 secondsuseless in my last job we were on the federal calendar and the legislature would end up finish their meeting in May
2:35:002 hours, 35 minutesand we had until October 1 to build our budget and it's a better system because the way it is now they're going in May
2:35:082 hours, 35 minutes, 8 secondsthey're going to be in the middle of May getting us numbers and then the County's going to want a number I'm sorry you're
2:35:142 hours, 35 minutes, 14 secondsright I mean uh I uh I just think there's so many ifs right now you got has seemed to know and we got to wait on
2:35:222 hours, 35 minutes, 22 secondsa lot of information I mean what are you going to do but a balance from what we did last year go into the fund balance
2:35:312 hours, 35 minutes, 31 secondsthe same amount plan on that and then you can adjust your numbers as they come in I think
2:35:402 hours, 35 minutes, 40 secondsthat's yeah I'm about to and then right after that it's going to be a motion but the the
2:35:512 hours, 35 minutes, 51 secondsthe only thing I will say is that we need a long-term plan to go into
2:35:572 hours, 35 minutes, 57 secondszero right because it we're going to continue to deplete it and and I think it's fine deplete I don't think we
2:36:052 hours, 36 minutes, 5 secondsshould have a giant stash of fund balance of taxpayer money and not put it to use right I think we should put it to use but
2:36:142 hours, 36 minutes, 14 secondsum the open I don't I don't want to get it down at zero and we can't we got
2:36:222 hours, 36 minutes, 22 secondsI don't want to put off I don't know what word you use but revamping our system to to balance that
2:36:302 hours, 36 minutes, 30 secondsbudget until the very last year where we like have to make a radical change all the time I got feel he's going to be one of our speakers next year so yeah I've
2:36:392 hours, 36 minutes, 39 secondsalready yeah I've already said for those who didn't hear once I'm off the board I'm going to be one of them signs up and come stands
2:36:472 hours, 36 minutes, 47 secondsat the thing and tells you and then and then as soon as it gets a 3
2:36:552 hours, 36 minutes, 55 secondsminutes you budget has to be like any other
2:37:032 hours, 37 minutes, 3 secondsbudget you have to sa for unforeseen things that might happen so you got to have you need that also cash flows a big
2:37:122 hours, 37 minutes, 12 secondsissue and $ mil a year a month is on cash flow so right to have yeah I mean
2:37:202 hours, 37 minutes, 20 secondsat that rate six months emergency fund is $18 million so I I will make a motion
2:37:272 hours, 37 minutes, 27 secondsthat we set an initial guideline for the director to balance a budget having a
2:37:362 hours, 37 minutes, 36 secondsnot to exceed 2.2 million of fund balance spending at the predicted spend
2:37:442 hours, 37 minutes, 44 secondsrate second I understand you knows what that me you 94
2:37:502 hours, 37 minutes, 50 secondsyeah if the if 94% still I say again yeah say it again so she can get it I'll
2:37:562 hours, 37 minutes, 56 secondsmotion start our motion um that the initial guidelin of the director of school to set a budget yet to to prepare
2:38:072 hours, 38 minutes, 7 secondsan initial budget balanced with a maximum fund balance spend of 2.2
2:38:142 hours, 38 minutes, 14 secondsmillion at 94% spend rate
2:38:232 hours, 38 minutes, 23 secondsthat's MTH yeah so with the maximum spend of 2.2 million what
2:38:302 hours, 38 minutes, 30 seconds94% at 2.2 million of fund balance spend at 94% spend rate that's
2:38:402 hours, 38 minutes, 40 secondsconfusing but M know Tim
2:38:482 hours, 38 minutes, 48 secondsTim Mr H I'll I've heard answer the words oh
2:38:562 hours, 38 minutes, 56 secondsyeah guideline director SCH to prare initial budget with a maximum of 2.2 million of fund balance 94% spend rate
2:39:052 hours, 39 minutes, 5 secondsokay get a second all in favor of the plan do we
2:39:122 hours, 39 minutes, 12 secondswant to roll call it or just just all in favor say I anybody oppose
2:39:202 hours, 39 minutes, 20 secondsopposes now your next motion that's I one thing oh yes sir you better hurry because I want to
2:39:292 hours, 39 minutes, 29 secondsgo Mr Elkins has been a tremendous resource for me to learn through this process and he's a tremendous resource
2:39:382 hours, 39 minutes, 38 secondsfor the district and I probably did more talking than I should tonight but the things I was saying are things that we shared and I learned from him so I
2:39:462 hours, 39 minutes, 46 secondsappreciate you Mr I appreciate