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16:0516 minutes, 5 secondsme we watch let's get started I guess this is everybody that's here nobody signed up for any speaking or anything
16:1216 minutes, 12 secondsso we'll start with calling the meeting to order and takeing attendance Dr
16:2016 minutes, 20 secondsAnderson taking attendance she you here looks like everybody never done this before but I can but I did not see Mr
16:2716 minutes, 27 secondsHen yeah everybody's here except Mr hudgin all right we have a
16:3516 minutes, 35 secondsquum have a moment a silence
16:4916 minutes, 49 secondsplease thank you next is Pledge of Allegiance would you leave the pledge
16:5516 minutes, 55 secondsplease I pledge the the flag unit States
17:1317 minutes, 13 secondsAmer next is d right into the budget Mullins yeah I'll have to
17:2317 minutes, 23 secondsforgive Simplicity of the handouts um
17:3017 minutes, 30 secondswhen we were here last Thursday um we we
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondstrim the expenditures down uh to where we have to get $2.9 million into the
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsreserve and then the board uh said they they did not want to exceed 2.5 million
17:5117 minutes, 51 secondsand then um we've had series of positive occurrences
18:0018 minutesuh since last Thursday the first occurrence that was positive we received an update on
18:0718 minutes, 7 secondsour Tisa allocation and it increased by $114,000 uh Mr Elkin help me here with
18:1518 minutes, 15 secondswhat these uh acronyms are Tasser is it's put you on spot I'm sorry to be honest with you I can't remember
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsthere two there's two economic indicators there's two economic indicators that judge your your your County's
18:3318 minutes, 33 secondscapacity to pay and and our or or or judge your contribution to public
18:4018 minutes, 40 secondseducation tax base and that was applied to the uh Tissa and so we we received
18:5218 minutes, 52 seconds$114,000 please reflect Mr hudgin has been here m
19:0519 minutes, 5 secondsthrough the other one yeah I'll
19:1319 minutes, 13 secondsum I briefly synopsis start over we uh since last week we received several
19:2019 minutes, 20 secondspositive U occurrences uh we received a new Tissa allocation for next year which was $114,000
19:2919 minutes, 29 secondsthan the previous allocation this the second thing is uh Derek Nome our eser
19:3519 minutes, 35 secondsmanager um uh talked to uh people in the Tennessee Department of Education and
19:4219 minutes, 42 secondscar out a legitimate pathway for us to use
19:4819 minutes, 48 seconds$200,000 of eser funds to pay the first two or three months of salaries and we
19:5619 minutes, 56 secondsapplied this to the the the money has to be geared toward learning loss and so uh we apply that to special
20:0520 minutes, 5 secondseducation assistance and we applied it to teachers who do RTI RTI is uh our efforts to catch children up in reading
20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsor our efforts to catch children up in math so um that that freed $200,000 and then earlier this year we
20:2320 minutes, 23 secondsstarted uh we started billing Medicaid for reimbursement anytime our nurses
20:3120 minutes, 31 secondshave to provide medical care to a child who receives Medicaid benefits at home we can build Medicaid uh we're we're now
20:4020 minutes, 40 secondsbuilding Medicaid $200 every school day so we put an estimated
20:4620 minutes, 46 seconds$36,000 in Revenue in next year's budget uh we also are working toward uh
20:5520 minutes, 55 secondscharging indirect service cost to our lunch room programs uh at every one of our lunchrooms we're paying the utility
21:0421 minutes, 4 secondsbills out of the general fund except the gas bill at East Hickman Middle School is paid by the lunch room that's the
21:1321 minutes, 13 secondsthat's the only utility bill that the lunchroom program is paying also at every lunchroom we're paying the cost of all garbage removal and we're paying the
21:2221 minutes, 22 secondscost of all uh uh
21:3421 minutes, 34 secondsum I'm trying to best P yeah sorry we're paying all that and
21:4121 minutes, 41 secondswe can factor in what percent of that is is luxur cost and we talked with people
21:4921 minutes, 49 secondsin Nashville uh and uh we we we're going to charge some indirect costs this is a
21:5821 minutes, 58 secondsvery very very conservative amount because we have not finalized that our our lunchroom manager M Sharon Burns has
22:0622 minutes, 6 secondshas been blessed to uh have good medical reports and she's been in and out of the office but we haven't sat down with
22:1422 minutes, 14 secondssharing yet but we will we we we we we really believe this number will be closer to 30,000 instead of 15 but we
22:2322 minutes, 23 secondsput 15 in the budget and then uh since last week we found a teaching position
22:3022 minutes, 30 secondsthat we can absorb into two teachers assistance position so after we Factor
22:3822 minutes, 38 secondsall this good news together um we were at $495,000 and so now we have
22:4722 minutes, 47 seconds$95,000 well when we were here last week there were two programs that weren't in the budget
22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsthere are fifth grade stem teachers science technology Math teachers at both
23:0223 minutes, 2 secondsintermediate schools that were not in the budget they had been funded by Esser and then aware was not in the
23:0923 minutes, 9 secondsbudget uh and and aware last week Mr
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondsuh Mr Lane said he gave us $300,000 we were 2.2 so let's go to 2.5 so hold on
23:2523 minutes, 25 secondsand and and my hesitation was a it was about both of those programs I mean I would like for us to get where we need
23:3223 minutes, 32 secondsto be without having to make programmatic Cuts there are Personnel Cuts in this budget there have to be Personnel Cuts in this budget but if we
23:4123 minutes, 41 secondscannot cut programs and still get to where we need to be that is in my opinion a victory
23:4823 minutes, 48 secondsfor us a victory for our students and our teachers so when we've got to the 495 this
23:5523 minutes, 55 secondsweek uh we started out looking at aware and the two stem teachers and um in in
24:0424 minutes, 4 secondsin let's talk about aware first awes had four had a director and three employees the director has done a wonderful
24:1324 minutes, 13 secondsjob she's already found employment elsewhere also one of the uh one of the
24:2024 minutes, 20 secondsstudent service employees who provides mental health counseling has found another job so we have two aware
24:2924 minutes, 29 secondsemployees but in addition to those two aware employees we have been able through Tennessee voices to bring two
24:3724 minutes, 37 secondsother mental health Liaisons to our district at no cost Hickman County High School has a young man who's there every
24:4624 minutes, 46 secondsday he is he he is basically a similar to an aware employee he he specializes
24:5324 minutes, 53 secondsin helping children with trauma helping children who have mental health Cris that's his specialy he is stationed at
25:0125 minutes, 1 secondHickman County High School and will be next year East Hickman middle and East Hickman High School is about to get
25:0825 minutes, 8 secondsanother Tennessee voices employee who uh will provide the same services so what
25:1525 minutes, 15 secondsis in this budget tonight is a scaled down version of
25:2325 minutes, 23 secondsaware the two employees who are still uh wanting to be here are in this
25:3125 minutes, 31 secondsbudget and that that's and their salaries and their benefits um uh or about
25:4025 minutes, 40 seconds$125,000 here here here is my perception my take on
25:5025 minutes, 50 secondsaware our schools let's let's start with SRO our schools became
25:5825 minutes, 58 secondsadequately staffed with sro's when we got to the point where we had SRO at every SCH in the beginning there was an
26:0526 minutes, 5 secondsSRO at every school and and then and they they shifted around just like nurses we took a big step this year and
26:1326 minutes, 13 secondsput a nurse in every school and that has been a the right thing to do it's all these all three of these categories are
26:2026 minutes, 20 secondsemployees they're about safety SRO are about safety nurses are about safety and
26:2726 minutes, 27 secondsaware is about safety aware is never going to be fully funded it's never going to be fully adequate until we have
26:3526 minutes, 35 secondsa person in ER scope but we can't afford that but we can afford based on the guidance you gave us
26:4326 minutes, 43 secondsto stay under 2.5 we can't afford to take the two people who want to be here and take the two free people through
26:5226 minutes, 52 secondsTennessee voices and have the same number of mental health Liaisons as we
26:5726 minutes, 57 secondshad last year but to grow aware uh there's there's several ways to grow
27:0527 minutes, 5 secondsit number one if the state will ever let us Medicaid reimburse the counseling some states let you Medicaid reimburse
27:1427 minutes, 14 secondscounseling Tennessee currently doesn't or a grant or she um Miss Fitz came and
27:2427 minutes, 24 secondspresented uh there's a way to get interns here and let them get their interns ship hours with us and though
27:3227 minutes, 32 secondsinter those interns would be doing the counsel so so the um the budget contains
27:4027 minutes, 40 secondstwo aware employees the budget also contains the two stem size features so
27:4727 minutes, 47 secondsat this point if you approve what we have there is there are no program Cuts there are Personnel Cuts there are
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondspersonnel there has to be there there's lots of Cuts we had to make some additional cuts from categories this
28:0128 minutes, 1 secondweek uh once we got to the 495 to fit the uh two stem teachers in and the two
28:0828 minutes, 8 secondsaware employees any questions yeah I've got
28:1828 minutes, 18 secondssome questions um on the second Bo item here the the 200,000 and Esser
28:2928 minutes, 29 secondsit says it's going to be toward special ed assistant RTI teachers I thought RTI were in war 141 thought they're in the federal
28:3728 minutes, 37 secondsbug we have Title One interventionist but we also
28:4428 minutes, 44 secondshave school some general fund RTI I misunderstood
28:5228 minutes, 52 secondsmixture yeah uh and and here is uh in in some cases we had schools with more the
29:0129 minutes, 1 secondK5 schools have been allocated for personnel and in some cases it in some cases there were more than four so we
29:0829 minutes, 8 secondstrimmed that back a little bit but but out of those four uh one or two at each school or General Ed they are they are
29:1729 minutes, 17 secondsGeneral Ed they're funded not out of title the this has no impact on the ones that are funded our title and and this
29:2429 minutes, 24 secondshelps us they're probably more funded by General Ed because we got cut and TI this next
29:3129 minutes, 31 secondsyear so um my next question was about the 36,000 revenue from Medicaid reimbursement you just the way you said
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsit was you had build Medicaid but have you been reimbursed I think I think part of it has yes I think we have received
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondssome reimbursements uh but I know that we're currently building two billing $200 a day that is acceptable and none of those
29:5429 minutes, 54 secondschildren that we are currently build billing are seniors in high school that on 180 days yes two yes 180 the 200 and
30:0230 minutes, 2 secondsthat and that's did we do that last year too no a new thing that came we began this this year okay and I
30:0930 minutes, 9 secondsit would be nice if they would let us the C that's what I was going to said it before if they could get the mental health counseling I mean you think I
30:1830 minutes, 18 secondsmean you're treating a disease just like diabetes or whatever right you think they would let you get reimbursed or and some states do and and we believe that
30:2730 minutes, 27 secondsTennessee yes we believe that it is so I I guess my other com my other General comment
30:3730 minutes, 37 secondsis well does this get you to 2x5 uh 294 yeah two uh it's on the last page of
30:4530 minutes, 45 secondsthe 24949 so this get you to the 2.57
30:5130 minutes, 51 secondsshort so if you if you if you continue the cuts that you had to aware could you have gotten
31:0031 minutesto the 2.3 original call uh the the uh the aware uh was about
31:0931 minutes, 9 seconds$125,000 additional cost uh the two stem teachers were 140 so it would have been 2.6 less than
31:1831 minutes, 18 secondsthis it would have been two excuse me it been 260 $265,000 less so what we got pretty much
31:2631 minutes, 26 secondstwo to the original goal Plus so the only thing I would caution not John like you got your job
31:3531 minutes, 35 secondsCAU the board is that
31:4231 minutes, 42 secondsum the the hard decisions either get made now or next year or what whenever
31:5131 minutes, 51 secondsthey're not going to go away and that 200,000 is a onetime thing not going to get it next year the 200,000 from Esser
32:0032 minutesthat we're moving into the South absolutely that won't happen again next year so it it's I say this to you guys
32:0832 minutes, 8 secondsbecause I won't be sitting here at budget time next year Gemini w't be sitting here at budget time next
32:1532 minutes, 15 secondsyear but but you can either have a hard time with it you can either make the hard decisions on this budget or you can all make a hard decisions next year we
32:2332 minutes, 23 secondswe've been making budgets hard every year if you think back as long as you've been on it we've had things we couldn't
32:3132 minutes, 31 secondsdo wanted to do if it was not our Paving or buying them extra bucks me we're cutting down to buses this year you know
32:3932 minutes, 39 secondsthat somewhere along the line you know we're going to get caught and if somebody doesn't yeah down the road
32:4632 minutes, 46 secondsduring a county is not going to back up and help us th this is probably since I've been on the board this has probably
32:5532 minutes, 55 secondsbeen the one of the more difficult ones that I can recall I mean we had a few years of Esser which was very pl we didn't have it you know
33:0433 minutes, 4 secondsum or else we would have had to deal with all that erer kind of course should saved us from a lot of that but um we
33:1233 minutes, 12 secondsknew then thater was temporary go away um can I say something do you do y'all were here for all here for uh you know
33:2033 minutes, 20 secondslittle less two years me amazing but it's uh you feel like that's is
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondshelp us build this U Reserve fund yes right I I'm thinking that because we
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondsknew when we applied a lot of stuff from us we always talk it was one time money I mean we we were we that push the fund
33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsbalance or Reserve funds up right so that's what I'm asking it did okay I'm sure it did well because I would assume
33:5133 minutes, 51 secondsthere was a lot of capital projects we would have had to come up with some of the some of the projects
33:5933 minutes, 59 secondsweren't like didn't need to be imminently done right so some of those building AC stuff like that those didn't
34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsimminently need to be done but they would have needed to be done some number of years in the future so there was some future benefit and some we'll realize
34:1734 minutes, 17 secondslater but yeah there was certainly there imediate I was thinking about that I was thinking that that's part of the well
34:2534 minutes, 25 secondsthe fund balance or reserves got up as high as it did yeah well I mean we we got uh bunch of stuff paid for that we didn't have to pay for that's what I'm
34:3234 minutes, 32 secondssaying we would have the scoop District would have had to PID this this thought Elementary School for instance East had a plumbing problem look how much money
34:4134 minutes, 41 secondswe spent there to get that straighten down yeah you know and that was something that the county would have had to back up with us again and say look we
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondscan't afford this you going to have to fund this that's same thing we did with the hon County High School we put a new roof and we put new units and that years
34:5934 minutes, 59 secondsago that was like $8 million when did that happen that cost more than the school did buil it so you
35:0835 minutes, 8 secondsknow there's some time that we have to back up and go to them uh but this time we did it was it it was definitely a
35:1735 minutes, 17 secondsbenefit answer your question so the other part I was going to say about this is that um I hear you are not cutting
35:2435 minutes, 24 secondsany programs but like for example some those programs didn't exist before Asser at least the the stem teachers correct
35:3235 minutes, 32 secondsdid not exist correct the aware program did not exist before we got it as a completely free grant uh program was not
35:4035 minutes, 40 secondspart of State one no the stem the stem the two stem
35:4835 minutes, 48 secondsteachers are part of ESS the we program was a state gr that five that five counties got and U the other four
35:5635 minutes, 56 secondscounties are finding way to continue it in some capacity and so we would be the only one that wouldn't continue it I
36:0336 minutes, 3 secondswant to say that you're right you're he Mr Willis is absolutely right about where we
36:1036 minutes, 10 secondsare we're not going to have $200,000 in Esser to augment next year's budget with and also
36:1936 minutes, 19 secondsI I will tell you this because in in in the past three years with erer funds there have been more capital projects
36:2736 minutes, 27 secondsdone in this school district than they have been done in a long long time and where the buildings and Facilities
36:3436 minutes, 34 secondshvac's windows and doors and safety that's in better shape than it's ever been because of Esser and and also part
36:4236 minutes, 42 secondsof the way this budget is coming to you tonight as it comes is we're not we don't have a large number in the capital projects because we just finished a
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsperiod of time where we've done a lots of capital projects and also uh if the school district had not we I said this
36:5836 minutes, 58 secondslast week we cannot buy one bus a year on a regular year aftere basis and maintain the fleet but the good news is
37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsthree and four years ago the the school district bought 13 um propane buses and
37:1237 minutes, 12 secondsand and got them 50% off each bus save $600,000 through and that puts us in a situation that puts us in a situation
37:2037 minutes, 20 secondswhere we only had to buy one bus this year but that cannot be the annual purchasing of a bus now uh also Al I I
37:2837 minutes, 28 secondsfailed to mention this this budget contains a 4% rise we talked about last week about what what what the compensation we
37:3637 minutes, 36 secondsdidn't we didn't have to CH we found a way not to change the the race but I I I want to say I completely understand
37:4437 minutes, 44 secondsabout the hard decisions and there's been a whole lot of hard decisions that got us to where we are here tonight a
37:5037 minutes, 50 secondswhole lot and um at the same time I I want you to bear in mind that we are
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondstrying to do things as a B Street that will increase our revenues both high schools have gone to a six period day we
38:0538 minutes, 5 secondswill have more children in Career Tech classes next year than we've ever had before and um that will bring us more
38:1338 minutes, 13 secondsTissa funding that's extra 5,000 and and then also both middle schools are going to have sixth seventh and eth grade
38:2238 minutes, 22 secondsCareer Tech and we're going to get more funding Medicaid reimbursement is going to go up in our district we just started
38:3038 minutes, 30 secondsit it it will go up um and Dr Anderson shared with us tonight that we had large
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsnumber of kindergarten registration the enrollment of this school district I mean that drives it whe whether it's be
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondswhether it's Tissa whatever it is the number of children that you serve Drive what the state of Tennessee will give
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsyou so yes I understand that this this this budget has it has
39:0239 minutes, 2 secondssome U idiosyncrasies that are that are alarming the 200,000 from Esser is one of those I understand so that so not
39:1039 minutes, 10 secondsonly next year you're not going to have the 200,000 you probably have to BU two buses right right yes well
39:1839 minutes, 18 secondsorder you may have more medic title n may knock that out though what they're planning on Title 9 may
39:2639 minutes, 26 secondsknock out have less students I have a question sure how many exer employees do we have at the moment in this school Sy
39:3539 minutes, 35 secondsoh there were 20 there were like 25 Esser uh there were like 25 Esser employees this year and they will be
39:4339 minutes, 43 secondsthey're in the budget uh some are some are not all there there were there was uh I would say 10 part-time Esser
39:5339 minutes, 53 secondsemployees that were teacher aids uh they they are not they are not in this budget uh Derek Nome is not in this budget but
40:0240 minutes, 2 secondssome of those Esra employees like those like those two stem teachers they're tenured in our school district they have
40:0940 minutes, 9 secondstenure rights so I mean they they they you have the yeah they have to have job and uh uh so yeah there there there
40:1940 minutes, 19 secondsthere are there are people in this budget that were move from Esser to general fund so here we have about 12 14
40:2740 minutes, 27 secondspeople that were creating position for uh no well the number I minute but
40:3440 minutes, 34 secondswe are creating positions because they were never no really we're going to fill vacancies with people that were ater if
40:4340 minutes, 43 secondsif like if you say if you if you say no we can't do the stem then then uh those
40:5040 minutes, 50 secondstwo tenure teachers are going to have to go into a general a classroom vacancy of course so back to the es so there was 25
40:5940 minutes, 59 secondsyeah how many are in how many of how many that aren't so I get that some of those are going to go fill vacancies and
41:0641 minutes, 6 secondsthen you know they're going to have noner jobs some some retire how many are just
41:1341 minutes, 13 secondsstill standing on we know two which of the the two stem teachers if if the if the budget is approach yes in the current as you presented how many more
41:2241 minutes, 22 secondsof the eser employees are still in the budget so in if I can speak to in actual
41:2941 minutes, 29 secondsnumbers if my spreadsheet is correct um this year there were a total from the
41:3741 minutes, 37 secondseducational side this is not food service sign
41:4641 minutes, 46 seconds[Music]
41:5741 minutes, 57 secondsat 133.6k
42:1442 minutes, 14 seconds[Music]
42:2742 minutes, 27 secondshave not been filled and will not but if you so how much of a cushion there are seven uh I think MoneyWise how much so
42:3642 minutes, 36 secondsit's about uh 300,000 I think roughly so you got a difference in here on the 116 as you just mentioned of
42:4442 minutes, 44 seconds22834 that was from a budgeted number not from the anticipated
42:5342 minutes, 53 secondsactual you got you got on here and correct me don't understand it uh FY 24 amended budget this is what's budgeted
43:0143 minutes, 1 second10 10,449 and you got FY draft amount for
43:1143 minutes, 11 seconds10,273 253 and a difference of 228,000
43:1643 minutes, 16 secondsso those are budgeted numbers so FY 24 budget number understand that that's why we
43:2443 minutes, 24 secondsworking budget right FY 25 budget number it has those seven positions that are in there so
43:3243 minutes, 32 secondsthat amended number on the budget is what we we show all the time every time when we're showing our spending and all
43:4043 minutes, 40 secondsso that's am put budgeted number yeah yeah but but we budgeted we and we won't know until the end of July after we
43:4943 minutes, 49 secondsfinished everything of what the actual spent number is well yeah but it's significantly less because we had
43:5643 minutes, 56 secondsbudgeted 100 90 positions last year but had only filled so significantly lessed
44:0344 minutes, 3 secondsto the difference in the budgeted would equal how much half a million off top of my head I can't tell
44:1144 minutes, 11 secondsyou I mean there's always there's always empty right there's always empty position were never 100% well and there's multiple the budget is how many
44:2044 minutes, 20 secondspositions the board has budgeted for the director to fill whether or not every one of those I I don't think I've ever seen or every single position is
44:2944 minutes, 29 secondscompletely leaving retiring there's always a gap yeah bud but you also have to
44:3744 minutes, 37 secondsbudget an increase in instructional salaries on the budget Side based off what the state tells you so sometimes
44:4544 minutes, 45 secondsthat inflates that 116 number higher than we want to do because the state requires a certain amount in certain
44:5444 minutes, 54 secondsyears but we're talking about theist when you're looking positions
45:0445 minutes, 4 secondscurrent how many positions when you're looking at budgets positions how many positions were in last year's
45:1145 minutes, 11 secondsbudget I don't have that number exactly in here I just have what's actual was 441 how many are in this year's budget
45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsso when you take the federal along with it right now we're at 433 versus 441 budgeted but it's got
45:2845 minutes, 28 seconds441 the 441 was probably more like 448 450 maybe answer the question about the
45:3545 minutes, 35 secondsimport yeah so Sherry asked the question I want to know too yeah right so we had
45:4245 minutes, 42 seconds25 last bu year that we're ending yeah how many of those positions not people because people could have moved and they're doing different things how many
45:5045 minutes, 50 secondsof those positions that were created and originally fund by eer are carrying over to the next question oh
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondsoh it sounds like that's a followup you don't know the answer don't guess well I I I have a file I have a file on my desk
46:0546 minutes, 5 secondsthat I want to give you I want to give you a precise answer I don't want to give you answer hey you go to my desk
46:1246 minutes, 12 secondsand there's a file says said programs because some of those
46:2046 minutes, 20 secondslike like 10 your teachers position well you have to
46:2846 minutes, 28 secondsabsorb you absorb them somewhere else right um I think it just it's worth knowing right that we got a bunch of
46:3546 minutes, 35 secondspositions when we when we hire we approved all those positions you specifically you said 10 was part time
46:4346 minutes, 43 secondswe we specifically said they were temporary and you pointed it out and we all agreed it was they were those
46:5046 minutes, 50 secondspositions were go away when went away they were created and we said in that meeting that they they were temporary
46:5746 minutes, 57 secondsfor the duration of ass right right specifically brought out do it is that correct Mike you've been s in on all of
47:0547 minutes, 5 secondsit that the money once the money went away the position went away there were initially two positions that first year
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsof eser 2 I think had to be absorbed because of changes in law after the first year of eser 2 if I remember
47:2147 minutes, 21 secondscorrectly but I could be wrong on that um and those were absor I think it was in area or something along that line U
47:3047 minutes, 30 secondsbut don't hold me to that
47:3547 minutes, 35 secondsum the ideal was to absorb people as we
47:4347 minutes, 43 secondswent uh into positions as people and all that yeah the idea was that they if they
47:5247 minutes, 52 secondshad moved they moved from a regular position and a lot of people took took positions in the Esser jobs to fulfill
47:5947 minutes, 59 secondsthem because of the essr requirements and the idea was the position went away but not necessarily the person they
48:0748 minutes, 7 secondswould move back into a regular teaching position but you're also talking about what the plans were three years ago to
48:1548 minutes, 15 secondsaddress situations three years ago what the budget is addressing is the
48:2148 minutes, 21 secondssituations that we are in now regardless of personnel regardless of where they came from or where they're being funded
48:2948 minutes, 29 secondsit's to address what the
48:3248 minutes, 32 seconds[Music]
48:3448 minutes, 34 secondssystem you I believe our our leader has has worked out a plan of what the system
48:4048 minutes, 40 secondsneeds to do and address and to meet those things is what we have put into the budget so basically out of
48:5048 minutes, 50 secondseverything that we have are these positions we're really just creating two positions which for the aware team
48:5748 minutes, 57 secondsmembers correct because we are creating positions for them they didn't there's no position in the school system yes yes
49:0549 minutes, 5 secondsand then if you if you're if you're using that approach we're creating two stem jobs also it maybe others once you look
49:1449 minutes, 14 secondsat your file right that's why I'm curious like what are the rest of them that were the reason John I believe that
49:2149 minutes, 21 secondswe need those I believe we need those but the reason I'm asking the law says if we create a position we
49:2949 minutes, 29 secondscan't take it away we can't take it away in the future unless we I don't think that's correct that is
49:3749 minutes, 37 secondsnot correct we can take away through the budget that's what I unless we out of the long we meeting the requ criteria
49:4749 minutes, 47 secondsof yeah as long as you're meeting the the legal criteria to do that and the legal criteria part of it is the
49:5549 minutes, 55 secondsreduction in force of students reduction and uh there's some other factors but
50:0250 minutes, 2 secondsthat's basic the B main one is students go down that's the only time you can do it
50:1150 minutes, 11 secondsright so students down we're still creating jobs which don't make sense to
50:1850 minutes, 18 secondsme it's it's just unsustainable right that's that's the problem it's feasible while we've got a fund so so we're
50:2850 minutes, 28 secondsconcern where we're going now is our discussion is is not sustainable and
50:3450 minutes, 34 secondsso we we we're uh the 4% raises were was $800,000 approximately $200,000 per per
50:4350 minutes, 43 secondscent so I thought was what I heard last week so so will we have with how close how much more will we have to me next
50:5250 minutes, 52 secondsyear to get to the uh the governor's threshold of 50,000 up to about another
50:5850 minutes, 58 secondsat least on that bottom very bottom one about another 5% for next so we're looking at another million dollar it
51:0551 minutes, 5 secondsdoesn't no no that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be across the boorder to go to on that botom salary have to
51:1451 minutes, 14 secondsincrease it another 5% yeah that's what I was just looking at was there any savings out of 800,000 we're spending
51:2051 minutes, 20 secondsthis year for the raises next year uh
51:2851 minutes, 28 secondsno I was just looking at this list uh so there's 24 on this list yeah I said 25 didn't I so some yeah this this is not a
51:3851 minutes, 38 secondscreation list is it well you ain't a creation this is the list of people who worked this is the list of people who work in Esser this year this list does
51:4751 minutes, 47 secondsnot include uh all the part-time assistants I there some I see some that's tutoring some that's 100 day
51:5451 minutes, 54 secondscontract some others that was there's another one there I'm looking at that was brought up that was hard because of our low grade and I was told it was
52:0352 minutes, 3 secondsmoney there to to hire that person that was sent from the state is that correct I I don't know which one middle SCH it
52:1152 minutes, 11 secondsEast Middle School yes uh that was money gave the state gave us money right at East at East Middle School
52:2052 minutes, 20 secondsuh Eastville school is atsi school it receives a special funding for ATS that's where that funding comes from so
52:2852 minutes, 28 secondsyes Miss Miss M the the majority of Miss mcmanis is salary this next year is going to be paid for from the atsi Grant
52:3752 minutes, 37 secondsduring the school year we added Miss Harris Selena Harris as an instructional coach uh that position will no longer be
52:4752 minutes, 47 secondsavailable and Miss Harris will be moving into a full-time teaching role I I have dealt with this as wisely
52:5552 minutes, 55 secondsas I could as barely as I could I understand you're absolutely right I I understand this budget kind of kicks the
53:0453 minutes, 4 secondscan down the road because we will not have $200,000 in Esser next year but at the same time we are in a school
53:1253 minutes, 12 secondsdistrict that is not the easiest School District in Tennessee to sta the board last this this current school year the
53:2053 minutes, 20 secondsboard granted $2.2 million dip in the reserve we're going to dip 1.1 million
53:2753 minutes, 27 secondsso so we we minimize the deal last week we were told
53:3453 minutes, 34 seconds2.5 and we had some good news this week and so we we're trying to provide
53:4053 minutes, 40 secondsyou uh the best budget we can knowing knowing M Mr will is your spot on there
53:4853 minutes, 48 secondsare there are difficult days ahead unless the the steps we're trying to take un unless we can improve the
53:5653 minutes, 56 secondsschools and the population of the enrollment increases unless we can increase the funding through uh getting children to take more Career Tech
54:0554 minutes, 5 secondsclasses what we're trying to do unless Medicaid reimbursement if Medicaid reimbursement becomes larger I I have I
54:1354 minutes, 13 secondsmean I would like to see all those Quantified right so like I I you threw out a few other sources of revenue which is great but I don't know if those
54:2254 minutes, 22 secondsare all together worth 100,000 or all together worth $500,000 I mean what
54:3054 minutes, 30 secondssources are you talking about quantify some of those well you had said that you're going to do some more Career Tech so you would get more Career Tech yeah
54:3754 minutes, 37 secondswe're we're in the process of we're you're going to do more more building right you're going to think you said something about buing Medicaid more
54:4454 minutes, 44 secondsright so the sources of extra funding is great I think me and the rest of the board members would feel more comfortable
54:5354 minutes, 53 secondsabout following years if we knew what that number was going to be even if it's just an estimate right because it might be it's a whole lot of words that might turn into
55:0255 minutes, 2 seconds$50,000 or 100 which honestly not going to move the needle on us you know what I
55:0855 minutes, 8 secondsmean 100 would be halfway to the 200 that we're paying in Esser to pay first two months of those special education
55:1855 minutes, 18 secondsassistance hours well and I'm not I'm not as much talking about this year's budget I'm talking about next year Year's budget
55:2755 minutes, 27 secondsand the year after that when you would start getting some of these additional revenues what's going to be the effect of it because those are the ones I'm worried about more right we got a big
55:3555 minutes, 35 secondsfund balance right now and and I'm and I'm going to I'm so disappointed that I won't be here to do budget with you guys next
55:4655 minutes, 46 secondsyear but no I'm more concerned about the future right I mean being for for each CTE student 5,000 so for 20 more
55:5555 minutes, 55 secondsstudents that's another I mean and and if you're doing it is 20 a reasonable number that's I think it'd
56:0256 minutes, 2 secondsbe more than that great because you're doing it six seventh and eth grade sign the decline in colleges you want to
56:0956 minutes, 9 secondscheck around to see colleges going down as far as the numbers most of them and that means that the kids are going to to
56:1756 minutes, 17 secondsthese kind of courses I don't have a four or five year Deb that I've got to pay I can go in two years make it more
56:2356 minutes, 23 secondsthan a starting feature or why Charing teacher all right so so John on this
56:3156 minutes, 31 seconds24 you don't even have to tell which ones but how many of this 24 are in the budget that you got presented to us
56:4056 minutes, 40 secondstonight oh
57:0857 minutes, 8 seconds16 it would be my 16 are still in the budget okay can I speak to that sure because it's not those 16
57:1857 minutes, 18 secondspositions if we go to positions that are actually in the budget from eser and
57:2457 minutes, 24 secondsdon't let me missp because you and I ran through numbers so much the last week so correct me if I'm wrong probably looking
57:3357 minutes, 33 secondsat a total of three positions that are currently in the budget that's count the two stem in the 141 budget that's counting the two
57:4157 minutes, 41 secondsstem so that's more the number I'm not I'm not about how many of these people that's not what I'm asking how many are
57:4957 minutes, 49 secondsthe Esser positions still in this because we were able to abser absorb some
57:5757 minutes, 57 secondsin title as positions came open some in other positions that have become that we
58:0558 minutes, 5 secondsbelieve will become vacated or became vacated through retirement um so
58:1258 minutes, 12 secondsthe in the budget you had last year you approved 190 positions that we didn't have 190 we had about
58:2158 minutes, 21 seconds178 in that 116 teacher position from the numbers I've currently run we
58:2958 minutes, 29 secondshave about 185 186 budgeted
58:3758 minutes, 37 seconds179 with the CT not CT uh Mr rollens what's
58:4358 minutes, 43 secondsthe one with the um JTG oh yeah
58:4958 minutes, 49 secondsuh jobs for America's graduates uh it is a program that teaches soft skills we
58:5758 minutes, 57 secondswe're going to receive uh if you will approve a memorandum of understanding at next Monday night's meeting uh we will
59:0659 minutes, 6 secondsreceive $55,000 from both high school and so we move $555,000 of General Ed salaries from two
59:1559 minutes, 15 secondsfrom one teacher at hman County and one teacher at East to that uh
59:2359 minutes, 23 secondsyeah and then you have those add there there's been actual
59:3059 minutes, 30 secondsCuts in Personnel positions in
59:3959 minutes, 39 seconds141 so so maybe let's try to do it this way so John why don't you go down these
59:4559 minutes, 45 secondspositions and which positions are in the budget that were're being asked to approve the name not the people but the
59:5459 minutes, 54 secondsPhysicians because I some of these people were staying are still employees doing other things that weren't ever yeah so which of these positions are in
1:00:031 hour, 3 secondsthe bud so let me ask you um I I don't know how many times ask this question before I get stra to answer well I'm not trying to be aive I mean I'm I'm not
1:00:111 hour, 11 secondstrying to be avas it uh are you talking about in the 141
1:00:181 hour, 18 secondsbudget or the budget period does an expends in the budget I would say in the 141
1:00:261 hour, 26 secondsif you can absorb somebody inment budget okay that's not we're talking about the technology specialist is in the 141
1:00:351 hour, 35 secondsbudget the uh did uh where do we get the other
1:00:441 hour, 44 secondsportion of Miss of the tutoring supervisors uh the bul of her salaries coming out of the the portion of it is
1:00:511 hour, 51 secondscoming out of Vass for the first three months yeah and then the rest of it now of atsi yeah so the the tut supervisor
1:00:591 hour, 59 secondsthe first three months of first salary would be Esser the rest of it would be the atsi grant uh middle yes for the middle scope
1:01:091 hour, 1 minute, 9 secondswhich means the majority uh
1:01:291 hour, 1 minute, 29 secondsum this is this is really difficult to answer because
1:01:371 hour, 1 minute, 37 secondsum there are people on here who we haven't had this conversation with like in in these tier
1:01:451 hour, 1 minute, 45 secondsone teachers yeah like we told we told each school you can have four RCI one of one of these teachers works at a school
1:01:531 hour, 1 minute, 53 secondswhere there's five RCI so somebody is going to have to do something else so had this conversation no about Chang
1:02:001 hour, 2 minutesthen we don't need to have I think we well talk about it we need be overall money the positions maybe we just I only
1:02:091 hour, 2 minutes, 9 secondsasked for the number I was just trying we thought we had three while ago John didn't say three Mike thought it
1:02:171 hour, 2 minutes, 17 secondswas three but what so just get what's the don't say any position names then how many of these so far it sounds like
1:02:251 hour, 2 minutes, 25 secondstechnology specialist and the two stem teachers so there's three right there is there any others on this list that are in your budet uh just the
1:02:351 hour, 2 minutes, 35 secondsquantity is there one more two more not the people but the the
1:02:511 hour, 2 minutes, 51 secondsjob we're alling for these accounts
1:03:051 hour, 3 minutes, 5 secondsI think three would be it okay it's a hard thing let me let's
1:03:151 hour, 3 minutes, 15 secondsuh this year we paid $190,000 to teach Spanish by having it
1:03:231 hour, 3 minutes, 23 secondson a TV um Miss uh uh Miss
1:03:301 hour, 3 minutes, 30 secondsRodriguez Ela yes is going to be a facilitator and M Bergos is going to be
1:03:371 hour, 3 minutes, 37 secondsa uh the teacher and and and we're going to be paying a lot less I mean we every every opportunity we
1:03:451 hour, 3 minutes, 45 secondshad to take people of value and to shift them into our budget we
1:03:521 hour, 3 minutes, 52 secondsdid it's look it's unfortunate that our job as the board is to develop a
1:03:581 hour, 3 minutes, 58 secondsbudget and that includes positions it does yeah I understand it has every year it always does it's also unfortunate
1:04:051 hour, 4 minutes, 5 secondsthat all I mean is your I didn't Agate those rules it just the rules that were given yeah and it is what it is and with all due respect you said get to
1:04:141 hour, 4 minutes, 14 seconds2.5 and we got you under 2.5 and we're able to save all the programs so please
1:04:211 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondsunderstand my perspective on that I mean it's kind of perplexing and I and I totally have agree wholeheartedly what
1:04:291 hour, 4 minutes, 29 secondsyou said we won't have $200,000 next year so actually I think we said to get to 2. two or three or
1:04:381 hour, 4 minutes, 38 secondswhatever it was the first time then at the last meeting a week ago it was 2.2 2.2 initially to whatever
1:04:481 hour, 4 minutes, 48 secondsit was and at the last meeting you said why I'm at 2.9 I'm having a hard time that's when we said well okay well
1:04:551 hour, 4 minutes, 55 secondscan you hit .5 right it's it's kind of what we said uh I'm fine with it don't get me wrong I'm fine with
1:05:021 hour, 5 minutes, 2 secondsit but I think that the Board needs to recognize that we're we're not setting ourselves up for a great future Mike I
1:05:101 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondswant to speak something the hitting fund balance it is never an intention of any person creating a
1:05:191 hour, 5 minutes, 19 secondsbudget to purposely the funds matter of that
1:05:261 hour, 5 minutes, 26 secondsthose who watched last year knew I got very upset when Vance said we better have thumbs and I was because that's not
1:05:341 hour, 5 minutes, 34 secondshow I ever believe he budget I'm not upset don't but for seven years the
1:05:451 hour, 5 minutes, 45 secondsboard and the people across the way have said you're not going to get more money
1:05:521 hour, 5 minutes, 52 secondsuntil you start hitting FM balance you use the reality is they are going to have to Bone up
1:06:011 hour, 6 minutes, 1 secondmore because the cost for us to be competitive and to become the best
1:06:091 hour, 6 minutes, 9 secondsschool district that we can become is not going to go down at all the services
1:06:201 hour, 6 minutes, 20 secondsthat we are required to do are beyond the services that all of us were in
1:06:261 hour, 6 minutes, 26 secondsschool that the schools were required to do we're understaffed as supervisor
1:06:341 hour, 6 minutes, 34 secondslevel and we will stay underst staffed at a supervisor level so we can be staffed at the school L more things come
1:06:431 hour, 6 minutes, 43 secondson to the to the supervisors in this school district with every new program
1:06:511 hour, 6 minutes, 51 secondsevery new thing that comes from the state but it comes without funding and the people that work here take that
1:06:591 hour, 6 minutes, 59 secondsinto account and take that on their shoulders and bear it without
1:07:061 hour, 7 minutes, 6 secondscomplaining without griping and knowing they can go one County over and make
1:07:141 hour, 7 minutes, 14 seconds$20,000 more than what they're making sitting here and we do it because we
1:07:221 hour, 7 minutes, 22 secondslove where we're at for seven years especially for three this Bo as a
1:07:311 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondswhole has said we've got to hit thumb outs and from the County Commission from
1:07:391 hour, 7 minutes, 39 secondswhat people say to us the argument has always been they' got too much in fund balance even though the county has a
1:07:461 hour, 7 minutes, 46 secondsbigger percentage of fund balance than we do for our budget the reality is we're hitting fun
1:07:551 hour, 7 minutes, 55 secondsbound not because we chose to but because that's where we're
1:08:041 hour, 8 minutes, 4 secondsat but if that's what it takes to get additional funding then function the 4% rise that's in this
1:08:141 hour, 8 minutes, 14 secondsbudget is not going to make us more competitive but the people that are here
1:08:211 hour, 8 minutes, 21 secondsare here because they want to be here and this is their community and I speak
1:08:301 hour, 8 minutes, 30 secondsto that because I'm one of them and I've talked to others who are
1:08:361 hour, 8 minutes, 36 secondsthe same we're hitting fun bals and if hitting fun balance for a few years is
1:08:421 hour, 8 minutes, 42 secondsthe only way we can get the community when I say the community I'm talking about the elected officials to wake up
1:08:501 hour, 8 minutes, 50 secondson the funding needs then we hit it and if we have to make those hard decisions and believe me
1:08:591 hour, 8 minutes, 59 secondsthere have been hard decisions I know that man hadn't been sleeping and I haven't
1:09:061 hour, 9 minutes, 6 secondseither that's the reality of it and there's other people in here that have not
1:09:131 hour, 9 minutes, 13 secondseither but you've asked us to hit fund balance we don't do it on purpose and I
1:09:201 hour, 9 minutes, 20 secondspray to God every night I do that this year we won't hit fun balance but I know we're going
1:09:301 hour, 9 minutes, 30 secondsto we have to do the stuff that we need to do and that's always been the people in this school
1:09:391 hour, 9 minutes, 39 secondssystem the vision that these two have is a vision
1:09:461 hour, 9 minutes, 46 secondsthat this helps meet that are there hard decisions yes and there's been hard decisions made now
1:09:561 hour, 9 minutes, 56 secondsI haven't been privy to their discussions but I know discussions have happened you've asked us to hip fund
1:10:031 hour, 10 minutes, 3 secondsbalance you've asked us to come back with a budget that initially we did not feel we
1:10:111 hour, 10 minutes, 11 secondsget to we gave you an initial one that was a pie in Sky just show where the things would be
1:10:211 hour, 10 minutes, 21 secondsat you guys make the decision and you do there has not been additional
1:10:291 hour, 10 minutes, 29 secondspositions other than needed put into this budget the actual budgeted positions have gone down and the actual
1:10:371 hour, 10 minutes, 37 secondspositions that are filled have gone down we will be a more efficient School District next
1:10:451 hour, 10 minutes, 45 secondsyear that's just that's just the bottom line there's been a lot there so John has a has a that you mentioned this
1:10:541 hour, 10 minutes, 54 secondsbefore that were other that there was other position being cut where some employees were retiring and not replacing or you know you had some you
1:11:031 hour, 11 minutes, 3 secondshad some people that were and they're going to be Cuts due to Performance so so we've already identified
1:11:111 hour, 11 minutes, 11 secondsthen 21 off of this list right positions not
1:11:181 hour, 11 minutes, 18 secondspeople right there were 24 this year we're going to three so so 21 positions some of part times and
1:11:261 hour, 11 minutes, 26 secondsthen you're proposing the two aware the two counselor aware counselor positions um and then how what's the
1:11:341 hour, 11 minutes, 34 secondsother number because that's a negative number too right the number that's being cut from a where there's four now to
1:11:431 hour, 11 minutes, 43 secondsfound other employment no not aware um just so we talked about Esser and aware but then
1:11:531 hour, 11 minutes, 53 secondsthere I want to say last time we talked you had some positions within the rest of the 141 that you were going to go how
1:11:591 hour, 11 minutes, 59 secondsmany are those uh you said it last week 11 is is what I said and then but I thought 11 11 counted the four where it
1:12:081 hour, 12 minutes, 8 secondsdid so then so then sounds like that there that's seven well excuse me that's nine CU two
1:12:151 hour, 12 minutes, 15 secondsaware have other employment and then uh the two stems were part of that last
1:12:211 hour, 12 minutes, 21 secondsweek but we found we found this week two assistant jobs that we can uh flourish
1:12:281 hour, 12 minutes, 28 secondswithout and one other teacher job so so let's I'll do math on that it was 11 and
1:12:351 hour, 12 minutes, 35 secondsthen if we put the uh two aware and two uh uh stem back in it goes to seven but
1:12:421 hour, 12 minutes, 42 secondsthen we found three more so it's 10 it's now 10 10 but
1:12:491 hour, 12 minutes, 49 secondsreduced so there's still a net reduction is what I'm getting yes what's the net reduction in
1:12:551 hour, 12 minutes, 55 seconds10 positions 10 T yes out of out of our workforces sign get out yes
1:13:031 hour, 13 minutes, 3 secondsum is it it it it really it really is simple if you don't want to find a wear
1:13:101 hour, 13 minutes, 10 secondswe that's $130,000 the the two the $2,494
1:13:181 hour, 13 minutes, 18 secondsth000 um reduces by $130 130,000 125,000 and then if you don't want to fund the
1:13:251 hour, 13 minutes, 25 secondstwo uh fifth grade stem teachers then that number goes back another uh 140,000
1:13:341 hour, 13 minutes, 34 secondsso this about $270,000 so the 2.49 would become 2
1:13:441 hour, 13 minutes, 44 seconds2.22 um but you would still have to find positions for those two teachers oh yes
1:13:511 hour, 13 minutes, 51 secondsso that wouldn't really that wouldn't really take the money I that would really take money away there there there will be there will be I mean there'll be
1:13:591 hour, 13 minutes, 59 secondstwo less hes over the next two two less those two teachers are tenor teachers they would have to find they
1:14:071 hour, 14 minutes, 7 secondswould have to find jobs would there would be find jobs constant hiring right be to H yeah it's like in the summer I
1:14:151 hour, 14 minutes, 15 secondsmean during the summer a lot of people that's when you find out many people leave I mean so we don't know yet what
1:14:221 hour, 14 minutes, 22 secondsyeah this is this is a yeah it's like every year this is a useless point for me to say and I said it last week it's
1:14:301 hour, 14 minutes, 30 secondsawkward to be building your budget now and we haven't even got to summer when there is movement of employees out leave the district in
1:14:391 hour, 14 minutes, 39 secondssummer yeah and this is totally useless it would be better if our budget was due in October and then you would you would school would have started and you know
1:14:481 hour, 14 minutes, 48 secondswho's with you but that's not how it is just like when I was a teacher everybody said yeah they're coming back everybody say they're coming coming back but some
1:14:561 hour, 14 minutes, 56 secondsof them know they're going to look and you don't find out they don't have to tell when the word got
1:15:041 hour, 15 minutes, 4 secondsout no we don't we want we don't want them to look we want them to be here we're making the best and that's what
1:15:111 hour, 15 minutes, 11 secondsall of you are doing is to be making the best situation for them so they want to stay here and they see that and they
1:15:191 hour, 15 minutes, 19 secondshave the passion that Mike has by all means that's what we want we don't want anybody out there listening thinking
1:15:251 hour, 15 minutes, 25 secondsthat we want them to go that's right we're proud that they're here they're making good improvements last
1:15:331 hour, 15 minutes, 33 secondsyear's budget we LED in giving them a raise and rais an insurance rate right
1:15:391 hour, 15 minutes, 39 secondswe did and that got over into F okay we knew that and we knew that was going to hit us again this year so this is not
1:15:481 hour, 15 minutes, 48 secondssomething we didn't know that was coming so we've got to you know and let me add this let me add this
1:15:551 hour, 15 minutes, 55 secondsand and last year's races I think last year uh this the noncertified people got
1:16:021 hour, 16 minutes, 2 seconds$3,000 raise and then the certified people got 6% and so what that does to your 4%
1:16:101 hour, 16 minutes, 10 secondsraise this year is it drives the cost up to the 4% rise yeah we're we're we are
1:16:171 hour, 16 minutes, 17 secondsin uh we're in a difficult situation I I I I I want to be partners with the County
1:16:251 hour, 16 minutes, 25 secondsgovernment and I'm I'm and I'm going to be their partner and and they're our funding source but I told you last week
1:16:321 hour, 16 minutes, 32 secondssince 2013 I the the amount of property tax that the school district uh received
1:16:381 hour, 16 minutes, 38 secondshas has gone up 2% 2% well and and but sales taxes flourished
1:16:461 hour, 16 minutes, 46 secondsand I what you got to realize hold on man what's got to realize too is four years back I don't know 20 years ago
1:16:541 hour, 16 minutes, 54 secondswhen I was County Commissioner they look at the the tax rate of us in this County
1:17:031 hour, 17 minutes, 3 secondsand the surrounding counties Hickman County has been the highest property tax rate of any County around us any County
1:17:121 hour, 17 minutes, 12 secondsaround us except right now Dixon is 0.0 something other per higher than us
1:17:201 hour, 17 minutes, 20 secondsso we're comparable to them but everybody else is like a 1.8 whatever all you got to do is look at it uh on
1:17:281 hour, 17 minutes, 28 secondsthe state site and find out what it is the other thing that you had to consider that the County Commission is looking at and we should be looking at too is the
1:17:371 hour, 17 minutes, 37 secondspoverty rate around us and around us which drives what's available for them
1:17:441 hour, 17 minutes, 44 secondsto make decisions and us to make decisions our poverty rate is uh anybody
1:17:501 hour, 17 minutes, 50 secondsknow 16.3% according to this dropped enough we won't be
1:17:591 hour, 17 minutes, 59 secondsgetting this this site is probably behind but it's uh it's it says that H
1:18:061 hour, 18 minutes, 6 secondsCounty 16.3 Lewis County 17.5 Per County 17.6 in other words we're all comparable
1:18:131 hour, 18 minutes, 13 secondsto our poverty level except the one with the least poverty level of Vault Williamson County that's listed right
1:18:211 hour, 18 minutes, 21 secondsnext to us and Murray County which is a 10.8 according to this skill but that drives everything that we make a
1:18:291 hour, 18 minutes, 29 secondsdecision that the County Commission makes a decision and if if we make any decisions based on property tax they
1:18:371 hour, 18 minutes, 37 secondsshould raise it I don't think you can count on that in the near future because they're not going to want to raise it up
1:18:441 hour, 18 minutes, 44 secondshigher than everybody else but but they're they're never going to they're never going to fund us we know this
1:18:521 hour, 18 minutes, 52 secondsthey're never going to fund us if we don't hit the fund balance which is why I've I've just said that a thousand times we do need to spend some of our
1:19:001 hour, 19 minutesfund balance because we've just have been built up I was surprised we would budget and think oh we're going to hit our fund balance I was surprised we
1:19:071 hour, 19 minutes, 7 secondswould add to I was surprised last year that they approved our budget but it may have been because we did dip into our
1:19:151 hour, 19 minutes, 15 secondsfund balance the first time that we've really done that significantly in 15 or 20 years but did they realize that that
1:19:231 hour, 19 minutes, 23 seconds12 million is not really all there for us to use I mean do the a lot of people think we've got1 million but we don't
1:19:311 hour, 19 minutes, 31 secondsthat's not we do we do but it's not to spend you know we only have a certain yeah I I think that's what the nine
1:19:381 hour, 19 minutes, 38 secondsnumber is Right Nine's actually I agree wholeheartedly on our tax rate being traditionally high
1:19:461 hour, 19 minutes, 46 secondsin the highest around us but our property values are also significantly lower than the ones we
1:19:531 hour, 19 minutes, 53 secondsaround with and the ones around us have retail that we don't have
1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsthat's that's the world we live in the the the the number
1:20:081 hour, 20 minutes, 8 secondsone impactor of your property rates is the quality of your school
1:20:151 hour, 20 minutes, 15 secondsdistrict that's true yeah I agree the number one factor impacting your
1:20:221 hour, 20 minutes, 22 secondsproperty value is is the quality of your school district what C winds County and rer
1:20:291 hour, 20 minutes, 29 secondsCounty both of them are doing what busting at SC because they have good schools and they spending a fortune on schools every year they're letting up a
1:20:371 hour, 20 minutes, 37 secondsnew school somewhere 10 high schools now County so and they keep growing Clarks Montgomery
1:20:461 hour, 20 minutes, 46 secondsCounty that's been on the same thing over there they're building a school here because people are moving in uh people are looking to move here
1:20:551 hour, 20 minutes, 55 secondsnow you go to Williamson County and I take your place Williamson County when you go down and say that's a $5 million house that's a $3.7 million that's a $10
1:21:021 hour, 21 minutes, 2 secondsmillion house just down one road house after house you can't find that anywhere in
1:21:091 hour, 21 minutes, 9 secondsCounty you and all that even though they have a lower tax rate it adds up because the houses are worth more this is the uh
1:21:171 hour, 21 minutes, 17 secondsincome this is the uh this tells you your County's physical capacity this is
1:21:241 hour, 21 minutes, 24 secondsthe those two abbreviations seber is that right Mr Elin seber C seber and
1:21:311 hour, 21 minutes, 31 secondsTasser and that determines your County's fiscal capacity and our our county
1:21:391 hour, 21 minutes, 39 secondsis probably about the 16th lowest physical capacity this this this this
1:21:451 hour, 21 minutes, 45 secondschart gives our physical capacity at4 and uh
1:21:521 hour, 21 minutes, 52 secondsand we we live in a rural County with a lot of lots of undeveloped property and when you go to
1:21:591 hour, 21 minutes, 59 secondsto neighboring counties there there's more development Murray County's uh fiscal capacity on here is
1:22:081 hour, 22 minutes, 8 seconds1.36 uh so I mean we we just we are we are what we are and we're trying to do
1:22:151 hour, 22 minutes, 15 secondsthe best we can and uh and and and I say
1:22:231 hour, 22 minutes, 23 secondsthis the need need for mental health counseling is is great in every school
1:22:321 hour, 22 minutes, 32 secondsin America and it is great in Hickman County um the prob were CH out of the Five County that's right we got we were
1:22:401 hour, 22 minutes, 40 secondschosen for one of the five counties based on our need right based on our need
1:22:471 hour, 22 minutes, 47 secondsand uh I just saw it as a chance to to meet the number that you gave us and to
1:22:541 hour, 22 minutes, 54 secondsmaintain a fragment of the program uh I don't know if Tennessee will ever do this the uh state of Alabama has now
1:23:031 hour, 23 minutes, 3 secondsprovided Mental Health Providers to to school districts and funded them in the F in the foundation formula so I I just
1:23:121 hour, 23 minutes, 12 secondssee it as a need we have um children that have experienced trauma of all types and we have children who safety
1:23:211 hour, 23 minutes, 21 secondsissue it is a safety issue it is a safety issue so so I I know I think I think this is good I think the work
1:23:291 hour, 23 minutes, 29 secondsyou've done John and Mike and everyone else who worked on this is is good it's great work um I I'm I'm happy with it um
1:23:401 hour, 23 minutes, 40 secondsI do think that that 4% raise needs there needs to be some more discussion
1:23:471 hour, 23 minutes, 47 secondsabout how that's distributed like I brought that up last time um I don't necessarily may be right they may be the right thing spread it out perfectly
1:23:551 hour, 23 minutes, 55 secondsevenly but I don't necessarily that's not always the right decision I think we should take a careful look at that so um
1:24:051 hour, 24 minutes, 5 secondsI'll motion to approve the budget as presented with the um consideration that the 4% raise be discussed at a later
1:24:131 hour, 24 minutes, 13 secondstime exactly how it's implemented in the U you do know that a lot of those raises are in this right here and when you're
1:24:221 hour, 24 minutes, 22 secondslooking at uh each one of these categories that and that number to the right for the differences are
1:24:321 hour, 24 minutes, 32 secondsincreases so as as opposed to what you were saying earlier by the upper tier
1:24:391 hour, 24 minutes, 39 secondsgetting a large Mount where the lower tier gets a small amount so it may be here I haven't read this it is in there
1:24:461 hour, 24 minutes, 46 secondsI just got this but you just voted I'm say I motion that we approve the budget as presented with the exception that the
1:24:531 hour, 24 minutes, 53 secondsboard approve salary schedule separate and maintain the ability to shift the raises
1:25:021 hour, 25 minutes, 2 secondsas as we see fit at a future date I don't think we can do that we're running once you approved it you approved it on
1:25:111 hour, 25 minutes, 11 secondsyour we never approve the salary schedules at the same time we approve understand we never do salary
1:25:191 hour, 25 minutes, 19 secondsschedules or really follow this this D we consistently we consistently approve a
1:25:281 hour, 25 minutes, 28 secondsbudget okay Michael confirm that we don't improve salary schedule at the same time we BR the B this is not salary
1:25:351 hour, 25 minutes, 35 secondsthis what's here drives the salary schedule Am I Wrong mate you're correct on that part okay but we have subsequent
1:25:441 hour, 25 minutes, 44 secondsof approving a budget made modifications to salary schedule well that doesn't have anything to do it has nothing to do
1:25:511 hour, 25 minutes, 51 secondswith this John can do whatever he wants to as long as it's here salary schedule that's a different
1:25:591 hour, 25 minutes, 59 secondsdiscussion for a different bik approving the budget does I have anything to do with salary schedules and I don't think we need to say we're going to approve the budget with the exception that we're
1:26:081 hour, 26 minutes, 8 secondsgoing to come back and do something with SCH I agree with what you just said but does everybody agree with that salaries are right here am I right Mike Ron
1:26:161 hour, 26 minutes, 16 secondssaying something different than Sal in each one of these categories that I've just mentioned those are budgeted salaries in those and if that's what we
1:26:251 hour, 26 minutes, 25 secondsapprove that's what he can spend you just with you can yes but do we ever
1:26:321 hour, 26 minutes, 32 secondsspend to those lines only the smaller ones that are fairly close and when we do we come to you and say we may need to
1:26:401 hour, 26 minutes, 40 secondsincrease that so just pointing it out so so my point is we had a motion I approve I motion that we approve the budget as
1:26:481 hour, 26 minutes, 48 secondspresented with the 4% total effect on salary with the exception that at a
1:26:551 hour, 26 minutes, 55 secondssubsequent board meeting we approve salary schedules like we do every year need to be in part of the motion
1:27:031 hour, 27 minutes, 3 secondsand do we it sounds like it does because R thinks that we're approving the salary schedules right now and I think we're not no I didn't say we is approving the
1:27:101 hour, 27 minutes, 10 secondssalary schedules I'm saying you're approving the money let me those positions I think well I think what Ron
1:27:181 hour, 27 minutes, 18 secondsis saying is that the 4% raises are already included in these amounts right here that's on here so but
1:27:271 hour, 27 minutes, 27 secondswhat Vance is saying is he wants to take the salary schedules and look at them
1:27:341 hour, 27 minutes, 34 secondsand see if we need to distribute the 4% in other ways not just like I don't want
1:27:411 hour, 27 minutes, 41 secondsto single people out uh the lower people that are getting paid less their 4% raise might be
1:27:501 hour, 27 minutes, 50 seconds$800 um where somebody that's making 80 90,000 it might be $3
1:27:571 hour, 27 minutes, 57 seconds$4,000 no it would it would be more like 80,000 is right at 30,000 $100,000 is right at
1:28:061 hour, 28 minutes, 6 seconds$4500 that2 yeah 33
1:28:131 hour, 28 minutes, 13 secondsoh what are so that's my point is that we've had a lot of good discussion and we banged out how much to going to fund
1:28:201 hour, 28 minutes, 20 secondsbalance I think we we're happy with the total net effect a lot on uh on the Personnel I am John's bet the goal we
1:28:301 hour, 28 minutes, 30 secondsset for him at 2.5 spend in the fund balance that's the predict it's been raised I'm happy with it I'm just saying
1:28:371 hour, 28 minutes, 37 secondsthat the 4% and I don't even know that I want to change it but I think the Board needs to
1:28:461 hour, 28 minutes, 46 secondsget the opportunity at a later date to review the salary schedules and adjust them if we want right you have a motion we need
1:28:551 hour, 28 minutes, 55 secondsa second do we have ask a question is is adjusting the salary schedules in the future going to change the budget no
1:29:031 hour, 29 minutes, 3 secondsstill 4% the total effect is still 4% how you going to pick and shoose you can change the lineup that's what's that's how you going to do how you going to
1:29:101 hour, 29 minutes, 10 secondspick line percent and these people come get less percentage or more percentage we still got to stay in that budget line
1:29:181 hour, 29 minutes, 18 secondsthey just moving figures around to come up with the same thing it still comes up to $10 no matter how you add exactly right
1:29:241 hour, 29 minutes, 24 secondsso who's going to make that call to say this teacher gets more dollars than this teacher we have in the past but that oh
1:29:321 hour, 29 minutes, 32 secondswe did last year over the steps we we certainly have we we followed it last year steps by steps trying to meet
1:29:401 hour, 29 minutes, 40 secondsMurray County you know that was a big deal last we have strategically said we would like to increase in the past we'
1:29:481 hour, 29 minutes, 48 secondslike to increase the you know certain positions for strategic reasons and and I think that's smart is all I'm saying I
1:29:561 hour, 29 minutes, 56 secondsdon't even know what the increase should be I think one of our next things is going to be the you know once the this budget decision behind us is to task
1:30:041 hour, 30 minutes, 4 secondsJohn with going through and his team to go through and make a recommendation but I don't think just a peanut butter
1:30:111 hour, 30 minutes, 11 secondsspread as I call that usually on budget exactly 4% to everybody is the best move
1:30:181 hour, 30 minutes, 18 secondsfor us for the same reason the Sherry just said so lower paid people get a smaller dollar figure it's always been that way it's same like your job if your
1:30:271 hour, 30 minutes, 27 secondscompany gives you a 10% across the RS you're going to get more than the people below you so you want ever work has
1:30:341 hour, 30 minutes, 34 secondsgiven the same percentage to everybody well never been said don't put me in the middle
1:30:441 hour, 30 minutes, 44 secondsthat okay let's back up we have a motion do we have a second may I may I say one other thing well can I get a second I'll
1:30:511 hour, 30 minutes, 51 secondsI'll second we got a second now you can talk now that's what we should have we
1:30:571 hour, 30 minutes, 57 secondsum we we have to expire all of our eser funds uh by December
1:31:061 hour, 31 minutes, 6 secondsMr we lose or or or we lose them or we lose them I have total
1:31:141 hour, 31 minutes, 14 secondsempathy I have total empathy with the fact that the people that we could not operate with in this School District bus
1:31:231 hour, 31 minutes, 23 secondsdrivers cafeteria workers um teacher assistants the the clerks who man the
1:31:301 hour, 31 minutes, 30 secondsfront I have total empathy with the fact that the 4% raise is not as beneficial
1:31:371 hour, 31 minutes, 37 secondsto them um a let's say the average teacher is making $50,000 that 4% for
1:31:451 hour, 31 minutes, 45 secondsthem is is going to be $2,000 and then you have u a person making
1:31:511 hour, 31 minutes, 51 seconds20,000 uh 4 4% is going to be $400 that's a quick math you that I did so
1:31:591 hour, 31 minutes, 59 secondsbut but so but let me let me say this and uh no we we we we said that we
1:32:061 hour, 32 minutes, 6 secondsweren't ready to divulge this but I think it needs to be divulged we have to expire the eser money and we and we're
1:32:141 hour, 32 minutes, 14 secondsbudging it as wisely as we can uh we're we're going to purchase a new phone system for the entire School District we
1:32:231 hour, 32 minutes, 23 secondswe are current paying uh for long distance and we're currently paying to rent phones from AT&T and we're going to
1:32:311 hour, 32 minutes, 31 secondsgo to voice over Internet Protocol phones we're going to we're going to benefit a 5,000 a month savings from the
1:32:401 hour, 32 minutes, 40 secondsnew phone system s's paying for the new phone system so we're we're doing the things we need to do to be a wiser more
1:32:471 hour, 32 minutes, 47 secondsefficient School District but when we get to the end of this uh we will probably not have have all these Esser
1:32:551 hour, 32 minutes, 55 secondsfunds spent and our plan to our plan to utilize the remaining
1:33:021 hour, 33 minutes, 2 secondsEsser funds when we get to this fall is and this is totally permitted by the Esser guidelines and it is also a
1:33:121 hour, 33 minutes, 12 secondspractice that has happened in this uh District in the past we will have a Esser retention bonus and at that time
1:33:211 hour, 33 minutes, 21 secondsfor the support personnel we can weigh that Esser retention bonus where it
1:33:281 hour, 33 minutes, 28 secondswill help compensate from the fact that 4% doesn't do as much for them as it
1:33:351 hour, 33 minutes, 35 secondsdoes for certified people be able you're saying you're so what you're saying I'm sorry go ahead Ron and you can apply
1:33:441 hour, 33 minutes, 44 secondsthat uh to the cafeteria workers also because I sent an email to the S manager at the the state last year we can apply
1:33:521 hour, 33 minutes, 52 secondsthat to all and I think it's a good suggestion um but how that exra money
1:33:591 hour, 33 minutes, 59 secondsgets paid out is a financial decision that belongs to the board I understand well likely who will likely 100% agree with
1:34:071 hour, 34 minutes, 7 secondsyou um but I you brought up bus drives for example we all know we hear all the time
1:34:151 hour, 34 minutes, 15 secondshard bus drive so why wouldn't we maybe give the bus drivers 6%
1:34:241 hour, 34 minutes, 24 secondsand then maybe give some of the top tier teachers that make more than 50 or $60,000 3% right that's that's on I'm
1:34:311 hour, 34 minutes, 31 secondsjust a scenario I thrown out there why wouldn't we do that right why wouldn't we consider that because we absolutely can if we want if we choose to we can
1:34:381 hour, 34 minutes, 38 secondsbuild it would they can build that schedule of payment any way we want to as long as it meets the state no I'm talking about salary would you like
1:34:471 hour, 34 minutes, 47 secondswould you like for me to answer that question um I'm I think it was a was it
1:34:551 hour, 34 minutes, 55 secondsrhetorical or I think it was a statement but you said why is it a rhetorical question or do you want me to answer it
1:35:021 hour, 35 minutes, 2 secondswas rhetorical but okay okay this is the
1:35:081 hour, 35 minutes, 8 secondsgap this is the gap between a starting teacher salary in Hickman County and a starting teacher salary in other school
1:35:181 hour, 35 minutes, 18 secondsdistricts this is the gap between a 20-year master degree teacher and Hickman County and a 20e master's degree
1:35:281 hour, 35 minutes, 28 secondsuh teacher in other counties and that 20-year master degree teacher has the expertise to have great instructional
1:35:371 hour, 35 minutes, 37 secondsimpact on our students the Gap our Gap in our pay scale is not at the beginning the Gap is when you get to Advanced
1:35:451 hour, 35 minutes, 45 secondsdegrees and experience but uh perfect and and and what I said earlier was I'm not even sure how all we
1:35:541 hour, 35 minutes, 54 secondsshould strategically adjust the salary schedules you your recommendation may be to move it to that category all I'm saying
1:36:021 hour, 36 minutes, 2 secondsis we we have the ability to set the salary schedules anyway we didn't I think what Mr mull is asking is us to
1:36:101 hour, 36 minutes, 10 secondslet him do the 4% the way he's got in The Bu and then we can try to
1:36:171 hour, 36 minutes, 17 secondsuhal equal we could we have Equity among lower paid workers with the exra fund
1:36:231 hour, 36 minutes, 23 secondslater in the year yes we could do that very much so I think that's what he's I think it's is that what is that fair
1:36:311 hour, 36 minutes, 31 secondsthat's exactly right and so to pass this budget with a 4% the way he's got it budgeted and then we can address those
1:36:401 hour, 36 minutes, 40 secondsinequities with lower pay Sal okay so then the the the the board meeting is going to come along copies of all the
1:36:481 hour, 36 minutes, 48 secondssalary schedules are going to get handed out for us done it last year right like we always do and if we if we don't
1:36:571 hour, 36 minutes, 57 secondssay that that we want to adjust them we get to look at them and you know you
1:37:051 hour, 37 minutes, 5 secondsguys approved this and um just remember we need to do that before we start paying attention since the beginning of the year agree with that that's a good
1:37:131 hour, 37 minutes, 13 secondspoint right why don't we don't do the point is do we do it that what it's for we should do it right we're doing like
1:37:211 hour, 37 minutes, 21 secondswe're like this should have been put in place all we should already had that done I mean I don't know anyway we're
1:37:281 hour, 37 minutes, 28 secondsoff topic there's a motion a second and a vote does that anybody else have anything pertinent to the motion do you
1:37:371 hour, 37 minutes, 37 secondsread that yes I would love to the motion I got it the motion is to approve the budget as presented with a 4% total
1:37:471 hour, 37 minutes, 47 secondseffect on salary with the exception that the board approves salary schedule separately that was currently what was
1:37:541 hour, 37 minutes, 54 secondsput on the floor perect that's correct as
1:38:041 hour, 38 minutes, 4 secondsthose and you know what I I'll add that maybe we approve them exactly as they are I just want to leave us the ability
1:38:111 hour, 38 minutes, 11 secondsyeah to adjust it if we choose to once we start revie
1:38:161 hour, 38 minutes, 16 secondsthem okay yeah can I speak budget so what you're looking at tonight and
1:38:231 hour, 38 minutes, 23 secondsstraft does not include two things that will be included in the 141 budget that
1:38:301 hour, 38 minutes, 30 secondswill go before you on Monday night it will be this amount and then
1:38:371 hour, 38 minutes, 37 secondsapproximately 1.7 million of innovative School model carryover dollars for the
1:38:431 hour, 38 minutes, 43 secondsnext two years will both be budgeted as an expense and budgeted as a revenue because that's how we have to budget
1:38:511 hour, 38 minutes, 51 secondsdoesn't mean we'll spend 1.7 in last year's budget 3 million of that was in as a revenue and as an expenditure and
1:39:001 hour, 39 minutesthat's why we saw 38 million in expenditures and 41 or 49 million expenditures you also have a
1:39:091 hour, 39 minutes, 9 seconds$75,000 grant for dealing with two special ed prek assistance that was a uh
1:39:191 hour, 39 minutes, 19 secondsgrant that was provided this year uh you guys approved that in the budget in October of this
1:39:271 hour, 39 minutes, 27 secondsyear it was is not in hill right now because again it's budget neutral it's all reimbursable and it would have
1:39:361 hour, 39 minutes, 36 secondsskewed some of the line items but where I have created for what will
1:39:421 hour, 39 minutes, 42 secondsbe presented if this is approved will will be all of these amounts both those two additional funding sources or
1:39:511 hour, 39 minutes, 51 secondsprograms can out they they cancel out because the revenue and the expenditures the neutrally are
1:39:581 hour, 39 minutes, 58 secondsyou suggesting we wait till Monday no well you're just approving to this is I think what we're this is a budget
1:40:061 hour, 40 minutes, 6 secondscommittee meeting so I think this is you still need to do I think this is the budget committee approval which I think I think he would it's
1:40:151 hour, 40 minutes, 15 secondsa I I wanted to send the message that to John that we approve it officially as a budget Comm I think think we still have
1:40:231 hour, 40 minutes, 23 secondsto vote at the next meeting right we do and and that's going to be in in the
1:40:301 hour, 40 minutes, 30 secondsformat that chrisal sent us yes I had asked uh yesterday if we could delay until after this meeting before we
1:40:381 hour, 40 minutes, 38 secondsuploaded that I will make sure i' done it before this meeting with the intent of it and I'm also going to include the
1:40:461 hour, 40 minutes, 46 seconds143 got some work to do so you don't have to keep changing I know we talked about but um so it is in that
1:40:531 hour, 40 minutes, 53 secondsspreadsheet format and and so it will be it it's the same spreadsheet format that you guys have approved in the past that
1:41:011 hour, 41 minutes, 1 secondgoes to the county it's in it's in the official spreadsheet that Crystal sends over from the yes from the Auditors M
1:41:101 hour, 41 minutes, 10 secondsBaker was making a point would you sense you was making a point while done what about you didn't think we
1:41:161 hour, 41 minutes, 16 secondscould I don't think we can do that motion the way Vince is wanting it done
1:41:231 hour, 41 minutes, 23 secondsbecause he's basically saying that we can come back and change the the way that's I agree with you but to that's
1:41:311 hour, 41 minutes, 31 secondswhat Miss Dr Anderson read it I didn't hear that in the motion to be% Total effect right all it says it we will We
1:41:401 hour, 41 minutes, 40 secondsWill We Will vote on the uh schedules later right so it's all it that's all it read read it one more time I'll be happy
1:41:481 hour, 41 minutes, 48 secondsto so motion to approve the budget as presented with a 4% total effect on salary with the exception that board
1:41:571 hour, 41 minutes, 57 secondsapproves salary schedule separately and they're saying that's what we've been
1:42:031 hour, 42 minutes, 3 secondsdoing why do we I don't understand why it's there because I'm sorry it doesn't need to be there we approve the budget
1:42:111 hour, 42 minutes, 11 secondsyou don't approve it with exceptions that's not a budget you approve the budget or you don't we we voted I'm just saying we we we do it this way every
1:42:201 hour, 42 minutes, 20 secondsyear J we separately approve salary that's right we don't put it the budget approval but this is not the official
1:42:281 hour, 42 minutes, 28 secondsyou're saying but the this is a coming out of the budget committee and you're say's another vote well I mean unless we're going to review all the salary
1:42:351 hour, 42 minutes, 35 secondsschedules on Monday he's going to come back with that and then later we're going to do you're going to do the salary schedule so the
1:42:441 hour, 42 minutes, 44 secondsvks there let's let's find out if it's a pass or not let me add one more complicating Factor
1:42:531 hour, 42 minutes, 53 seconds4% step raise is more than 4% to every employee in this District other than the
1:43:001 hour, 43 minutesfirst year teacher uh there's a few that it's exactly
1:43:071 hour, 43 minutes, 7 seconds4% may be zero of our steps are same yeah but but but a 4% step raise is this
1:43:141 hour, 43 minutes, 14 secondsis what's in the budget uh the other day I did I looked at the 20-year veteran teacher who had a master's who was going
1:43:221 hour, 43 minutes, 22 secondsto year 21 a 4% raise was going to give them actually a 6.2% raise or something like that the
1:43:311 hour, 43 minutes, 31 secondsamount of Step because they're getting a 4% increase in the step and they're moving up another step another step so I
1:43:381 hour, 43 minutes, 38 secondsdon't know if the motion aligns with that I understand what you're trying to I understand what you're trying to do and I'm not trying to uh re what you're
1:43:471 hour, 43 minutes, 47 secondstrying to do I'm just thought about that that a 4% step raise I hate to ask you this would you read it
1:43:541 hour, 43 minutes, 54 secondsagain point I'd love to motion to approve the budget as presented with a 4% total effect on
1:44:031 hour, 44 minutes, 3 secondssalary with the exception that the board approved the salary schedule separately so it wouldn't be a total effect 4% some
1:44:121 hour, 44 minutes, 12 secondspeople it would be a so maybe a 4% step with that we got we got
1:44:191 hour, 44 minutes, 19 secondsthe hold got to voted down
1:44:311 hour, 44 minutes, 31 secondsa% R effect on the ray but it doesn't affect the existing
1:44:401 hour, 44 minutes, 40 secondssalary steps so I I think by saying it's
1:44:451 hour, 44 minutes, 45 secondsnot it's a 4% increase to the
1:44:521 hour, 44 minutes, 52 secondssteps do the lines so like beginning teacher beginning teacher salary is
1:44:591 hour, 44 minutes, 59 seconds44096 this year it's it will be
1:45:051 hour, 45 minutes, 5 seconds1.04 of that next year the step one whatever that value is right now will be
1:45:141 hour, 45 minutes, 14 seconds1.04 of that in next year space scale the way this is written and those pay
1:45:231 hour, 45 minutes, 23 secondsscales were developed long before we were in here but to what you were saying when we
1:45:301 hour, 45 minutes, 30 secondslooked at those pay scales in comparison to what was happening around us we tried
1:45:361 hour, 45 minutes, 36 secondsto make them competitive in that aspect and in the steps that changes in the steps that still
1:45:451 hour, 45 minutes, 45 secondsoccur we're still on a consistent ratio in that now with a 4% step increase
1:45:541 hour, 45 minutes, 54 secondswe're falling behind a little bit but that's where we're at right now with budget and that's what we have to deal
1:46:001 hour, 46 minuteswith but it is strictly a increase to the St St this is just a committee and
1:46:071 hour, 46 minutes, 7 secondsit's going forward and anything else out of committee when we as a full board meet then we can change anything we want
1:46:151 hour, 46 minutes, 15 secondsto so and and my my very next motion I'll just go ahead give you
1:46:241 hour, 46 minutes, 24 secondslet's let's deal with this one first I'm I'm going to say this because this matters my very next motion is
1:46:331 hour, 46 minutes, 33 secondsthat the board requests the director and his team to evaluate the salary schedule
1:46:401 hour, 46 minutes, 40 secondsand present what they recommend the salary schedule should be they do anyway
1:46:481 hour, 46 minutes, 48 secondsno they've just presented an even 4% right now all right I'm saying that that
1:46:541 hour, 46 minutes, 54 secondsnow is a once a year opportunity for us to strategically view what we pay all of
1:47:031 hour, 47 minutes, 3 secondsour employees whether they be bus drivers or cafeteria workers or 25e master's degree
1:47:091 hour, 47 minutes, 9 secondsteachers we get to review all of them and give them increases as we see fit and all I'm saying
1:47:181 hour, 47 minutes, 18 secondsis those biggest part of our budget is the salaries if I remember careful and strategic with how we make
1:47:251 hour, 47 minutes, 25 secondsthose if I remember correctly Mike and even when Michelle was there they did that every year presented us comparison
1:47:321 hour, 47 minutes, 32 secondsof the other counties around us did you not mind yes I'm not answer nothing new okay let's have a
1:47:411 hour, 47 minutes, 41 secondsvote please yeah you me to read
1:47:501 hour, 47 minutes, 50 secondsit read it one more time no no because it still says total effect I think it needs to say 4% step ex I'll
1:47:591 hour, 47 minutes, 59 secondshave that down below so I'll treat it both ways why don't you change it for here you can't do that you got to vote this one we got to devate this let's
1:48:061 hour, 48 minutes, 6 secondsvote this one or you want to the vote on amend well we can withdraw it I I'll withdraw the motion I'll make a new
1:48:151 hour, 48 minutes, 15 secondsmotion I just did it and motion with the word step in there you go that means you second it again with
1:48:231 hour, 48 minutes, 23 secondsthe word step withdrawing it basically means that it's voted down or
1:48:311 hour, 48 minutes, 31 secondsreward just like the backspace key all right here what what do you want to let's get the
1:48:411 hour, 48 minutes, 41 secondsword 4% you're you're trying to get it word
1:48:521 hour, 48 minutes, 52 secondsfor everybody will approve it right so much far all right motion to approve the budget is presented with a 4% increase
1:49:001 hour, 49 minutesto the steps on salary with the exception that the board approves salary schedules
1:49:071 hour, 49 minutes, 7 secondsseparately now you seconded a while ago and your since he pulled it back are you second in
1:49:141 hour, 49 minutes, 14 secondsthis I second all right roll call vote okay
1:49:241 hour, 49 minutes, 24 secondsMr Willis yes Miss M yes Mr Lane yes Mr
1:49:311 hour, 49 minutes, 31 secondshudon no Mr hob no Mr gamon about because my
1:49:401 hour, 49 minutes, 40 secondsfamily members two of them as an employee of the hicken County School System I have a conflict of interest in The Proposal about to be voted on
1:49:471 hour, 49 minutes, 47 secondshowever declare that my argument and my vote answer only to my conscience and to my obligation to my constituents and the
1:49:551 hour, 49 minutes, 55 secondscitizen the citizens the board represents no Miss Baker
1:50:031 hour, 50 minutes, 3 secondsno you know I'm really going to miss I'm really you just to recap for y'all that's 4
1:50:131 hour, 50 minutes, 13 secondsand motion declined I won't thr out long as long as we've done this state has give us when
1:50:221 hour, 50 minutes, 22 secondsthey did you don't understand sometimes we went years without any state race the only raise teachers got was
1:50:301 hour, 50 minutes, 30 secondsstep rates and then when they give you a 3% rise I've gotten checks that I made
1:50:371 hour, 50 minutes, 37 secondsless money put on another tax CR that's happen probably happened some of the rest oh that happened to me yeah yeah so
1:50:441 hour, 50 minutes, 44 secondswhat I'm saying is when they do give us the raise and which they have we've always kind of yes let's take it and we've added to it last two years we've
1:50:531 hour, 50 minutes, 53 secondswent around that we went above it you it's like this one we're going above it so I think that's a good thing but I
1:51:001 hour, 51 minutesdon't think we need to start rearranging all everybody's Personnel all right so last year Ron came with his own
1:51:081 hour, 51 minutes, 8 secondsspreadsheet PR for one of the salaries to meet the to meet the requirements of the state and everything I mean yeah he
1:51:161 hour, 51 minutes, 16 secondswrote his own spreadsheet print out where he custom made his own thing and we were like okay we voted on it took so look no you didn't no no no no no they
1:51:251 hour, 51 minutes, 25 secondsdidn't Pro it it was equal equal step raises of about 5 600 it was $600 and something dollars we did take no no no
1:51:341 hour, 51 minutes, 34 secondsno it did not meet the three three year six year that we we've had
1:51:401 hour, 51 minutes, 40 secondswe've had Michelle Gilbert and Mike Yin have went through and done analyses for us and came back and said strategically
1:51:491 hour, 51 minutes, 49 secondswe think we need to be more competitive in these these particular areas where we need people we have shortages in this
1:51:551 hour, 51 minutes, 55 secondsarea and and I felt like it was a good and valuable analysis of personnel and
1:52:041 hour, 52 minutes, 4 secondsum and and useful and I'm just suggesting we do it again so I know what you're saying because last year what we did was Michelle came to us and told us
1:52:121 hour, 52 minutes, 12 secondsthat she wanted up was a 6% across the board and we said that's not going to work because we want the lower paid
1:52:191 hour, 52 minutes, 19 secondspeople to make more so we did take different last year and with that but
1:52:281 hour, 52 minutes, 28 secondsbut but what you all ended up doing last year just so you know was significantly more
1:52:351 hour, 52 minutes, 35 secondsactually it was more like across the board uh over 10 because many of those
1:52:441 hour, 52 minutes, 44 seconds$3,000 steps in some cases were 20% increases because of the area that we
1:52:541 hour, 52 minutes, 54 secondsdid to $3,000 we we increased each step of non-certified by $3,000 justifiably
1:53:021 hour, 53 minutes, 2 secondsso but that again when you're looking at $2,000 or $20,000 that's a 15% increase
1:53:101 hour, 53 minutes, 10 secondsso so yeah $15,000 way higher in in that aspect last year just
1:53:171 hour, 53 minutes, 17 secondsa 6% ra and what was initially 8% was six right and was 6% cross the board so you guys were saying no because of
1:53:261 hour, 53 minutes, 26 secondsthat what was taed on at the end is that what you're saying not not the budget thing correct
1:53:331 hour, 53 minutes, 33 secondsyeah yeah why why you exactly what Christian just
1:53:451 hour, 53 minutes, 45 secondssay pass the budget as we've done it and and not adjust a motion I have a second
1:53:521 hour, 53 minutes, 52 secondssecond Motion in a second discussion what would you repeat the motion please he made a motion to pass
1:54:001 hour, 54 minutesthe budget with a 4% across the board step raise done all right can we have discussion on
1:54:101 hour, 54 minutes, 10 secondsthat have a second have couple Motion in a second now discussion
1:54:171 hour, 54 minutes, 17 secondsso as I have already stated I think it makes more tactical sentence for us as an employer
1:54:261 hour, 54 minutes, 26 secondsto analyze the pay scales for all these hundreds of employees we have with a little finer tooth comb than spreading
1:54:331 hour, 54 minutes, 33 seconds4% across everybody because we're lazy so I'm going to vote no just letting you all
1:54:401 hour, 54 minutes, 40 secondsknow can you can we wait are we ready to record the vote no well no
1:54:471 hour, 54 minutes, 47 secondsI okay more disc barring what he just said I I don't think any of lazy but I I I take your point but I think at a point
1:54:581 hour, 54 minutes, 58 secondswhat you said is right in that we don't have any business going
1:55:061 hour, 55 minutes, 6 secondsover that with a fine to call that's what I pay him to do that's what I pay him to do right
1:55:151 hour, 55 minutes, 15 secondsokay now he can come back with some he has it though and I'm saying I said my PR my next motion is for him to do that
1:55:221 hour, 55 minutes, 22 secondswell that's another motion that doesn't anything Bu you're going to approve it as it's presented with it the lazy
1:55:301 hour, 55 minutes, 30 secondsmethod that's what I'm saying which is fine okay but I think I don't think that's
1:55:381 hour, 55 minutes, 38 secondswhat they're saying are you're looking at me like you're not sure I think they're just wanting to okay let's they're not saying we can't
1:55:451 hour, 55 minutes, 45 secondscome back later on and look at the S because we we always look at the I mean I don't know that we last year so we
1:55:541 hour, 55 minutes, 54 secondsdo it was not a controversial motion yeah I don't think they're saying that we're not going to do that budgets to the county and they come back and redo
1:56:021 hour, 56 minutes, 2 secondsthem anyhow yeah it was that's something else we're going to need to consider scheduling some more meetings because it's running out of time we got to we
1:56:111 hour, 56 minutes, 11 secondsgot to anticipate we may have to meet again after Monday oh so or we can set
1:56:181 hour, 56 minutes, 18 secondsit Monday whichever I'd suggest that we set up tonight right we have a motion to Second are we ready to vote on
1:56:251 hour, 56 minutes, 25 secondsit repeat it please sure M so I so I just written what I'm hearing you all
1:56:321 hour, 56 minutes, 32 secondssay because he made it he made it simple okay read what you heard this is what I heard motion to except budget with
1:56:401 hour, 56 minutes, 40 secondsacross the board 4% step rise the board has the confidence of the superintendent his team will provide a
1:56:481 hour, 56 minutes, 48 secondssalary schedule in order to retain employees and remain competitive was that part of your
1:56:561 hour, 56 minutes, 56 secondsmotion he made motion that's all we had to have the second part because taking it
1:57:051 hour, 57 minutes, 5 secondsoff the board sets those the superintendent recommends that but the board approves that okay it's gone so
1:57:121 hour, 57 minutes, 12 secondsthis is what it said motion to accept budget with across the board 4% stack R okay that was it work for me all right
1:57:201 hour, 57 minutes, 20 secondsdo you make the motion who second I did but we had two or three seconds okay I
1:57:291 hour, 57 minutes, 29 secondsknow I think CHR second you second roll call vote please Miss Baker
1:57:381 hour, 57 minutes, 38 secondsyes Mr game I'm going to State the same thing because we're dealing with money and I have Ken folk that draw a salary because
1:57:471 hour, 57 minutes, 47 secondsthey are an employee or Draw money hick County School System they have conflict interest in The Proposal about to be voted on however I declare that my
1:57:561 hour, 57 minutes, 56 secondsargument my vote the answer is only to the conscience and to my obligation to my constituents and the citizens of the the board represents and everybody
1:58:041 hour, 58 minutes, 4 secondsalmost everybody in here should be stating that same thing when they vote all know it this happens every year legally they have to do
1:58:121 hour, 58 minutes, 12 secondsit okay we all know it know last time for public information and for Le
1:58:191 hour, 58 minutes, 19 secondsinformation by St okay no Mr H yes Mr hudon yes Mr Lane yes
1:58:291 hour, 58 minutes, 29 secondsMiss M yeah Mr wellet I'd like to invoke the same conflict of interest statement that I'm
1:58:371 hour, 58 minutes, 37 secondsnot going to read verum okay it's already recorded um
1:58:441 hour, 58 minutes, 44 secondsno would anybody like to change their vote give me a tally please
1:58:521 hour, 58 minutes, 52 seconds5 Y 2 N 5A 2 N motion carries sent
1:59:021 hour, 59 minutes, 2 secondsforward motion to the Jour let's talk about dates first and you
1:59:141 hour, 59 minutes, 14 secondsguys we have to give proper notice for any meetings we might have since we already have proper notice for Monday
1:59:221 hour, 59 minutes, 22 secondsnight which covers this in anticipation that we might have to meet again after
1:59:291 hour, 59 minutes, 29 secondsthat before the county meets on what the 13th is that what we decid 14th 14th uh which means that we probably
1:59:371 hour, 59 minutes, 37 secondsshould set another date just in case we need to meet after Monday night what would that
1:59:461 hour, 59 minutes, 46 secondsbe Mike you have any suggestions for us yes the budget would not pass Monday night
1:59:551 hour, 59 minutes, 55 secondsand you want to get something to them before the 14th you're going to have to
2:00:002 hoursdo the nth again or the 13th or or the four like we did last
2:00:092 hours, 9 secondsyear yeah actually yeah which I was gone so yeah we were gone but John was
2:00:172 hours, 17 secondsthere and did so so you're saying we don't it money night come back come back I'm just saying if it's
2:00:272 hours, 27 secondsprobably they probably less the set another night just in case because we that way we give proper
2:00:372 hours, 37 secondsnotice we want to make changes in it I'm not saying that we will but after Monday night and they meet
2:00:462 hours, 46 seconds13 14 14 14th the 14th before their meeting like we no they no he was asking
2:00:542 hours, 54 secondswhen they met so we met 15 minutes before they did last year that was one time that was the
2:01:032 hours, 1 minute, 3 secondssecond time y last right came back right what time did they meet mate you
2:01:122 hours, 1 minute, 12 secondsknow uh 5:30 yeah think it's either 6 or 5:30 yeah Dr in
2:01:222 hours, 1 minute, 22 secondswhich if if that's what we decided we want to meet we can always set that Monday night uh to meet the night that they need 30
2:01:322 hours, 1 minute, 32 secondsminutes before so let's just if that's satisfactory then we won't set anything unless we have two Monday
2:01:422 hours, 1 minute, 42 secondsnight now your motion to adjourn will be entertain