School Board · Meeting · Nov 4, 2024
Mon, Nov 4, 2024
Hickman County Board of Education meetings, including regular sessions and special called meetings.
This outline was generated by an LLM from a transcript and may contain errors or inaccuracies. Prefer the original recording when available.
Highlights: The board approved an overnight trip for the Hickman County High School girls basketball team to the Marlin’s Classic in Panama City, approved the annual LEA compliance report, awarded a food-service equipment bid package, and passed budget amendments covering differentiated pay, CTE repair and travel shifts, special-education transportation coding, and new grant funding including a $155,000 school mental health grant. A proposed policy 1.806 was tabled until the next meeting, while policies 5.101–5.1101 were approved.
The most substantive discussion centered on athletics ticket pricing and school therapy dogs. Members debated whether discounted student admission is hurting football revenue, with estimates of $800 per game and $4,000 over a season, versus the affordability benefit for families. Administration was directed to bring back options, including possible ticket-price changes, family/student passes, and district payment of game officials estimated around $40,000. On therapy dogs, the board did not adopt a policy but voted to continue work through spring, aiming for a finalized policy or administrative framework by June 2, 2025, after more legal, operational, insurance, allergy, training, and staffing review. Other notable items included employee recognition, a state golf honor, dual-credit/career participation, a distracted-driving program, and comments about reducing paper board packets.
Public Comments 15:22
Student report 15:22
- 15:31 Student representative Jack gave a general school update: football season was ending on a strong note; basketball season was about to begin; and the school musical Into the Woods was scheduled for December 13–14, described as Kristen Carter’s first musical production at the school.
- 16:18 He also noted student apathy among some seniors but said activity levels remained strong overall, with students still engaged in upcoming events.
- 16:42 He mentioned an “awesome tech tour” planned for the next day and an upcoming Duck River video from the FTA team.
Approval of Agenda and Minutes 18:27
- 18:27 The board approved the November agenda.
- 18:52 The board approved minutes from the October 21, 2024 meeting.
Special Recognitions 19:15
Employee of the Month 19:15
- 19:30 Tanya Williams was recognized as Employee of the Month for serving as administrative assistant for maintenance and transportation, handling purchasing/procurement, and acting as transportation director since September 16 during a prolonged leave of absence. Her work included staffing duties, bus camera monitoring, and assistance with annual bus inspections.
Athlete and coaches recognition 24:23
- 24:23 The board recognized Dane Gilbert for a fourth-place finish in the TSSAA state golf tournament.
- 24:32 His 2024 honors were listed: Tennessee River tournament individual champion, district tournament individual champion, region runner-up, fourth in the state championship, and one of only five sophomores in a field of 65.
- 25:02 Because of a top-10 state finish, he earned all-state honors and was told his golf jersey will be retired upon graduation.
- 25:16 Coaches Dawson and Shelton were also congratulated.
Consent Agenda 20:53
- 20:53 The board approved the consent agenda without recorded controversy.
New Business / Agenda Items 21:17
Hickman County High School girls basketball overnight trip 21:17
- 21:47 The girls basketball program requested approval for an overnight trip in December to the 20th annual Marlin’s Classic in Panama City, Florida.
- 22:08 The coach said nine girls would attend, staying together with two staff chaperones, while coaches and family members would stay separately.
- 22:30 The trip was justified as both a team-bonding opportunity and a chance for a young team to play stronger competition and represent the school and state.
- 23:02 The coach said the tournament runs Friday and Saturday, with Sunday activities including a three-point contest; travel would begin on December 26, with return after the final Monday game.
- 23:55 Motion made and seconded; the overnight trip was approved unanimously.
LEA compliance report 26:14
- 26:14 Administration presented the annual LEA compliance report, described as the district’s yearly certification that it is in compliance as an agency.
- 26:31 Motion made and seconded; the board approved the report.
Food service equipment bid package 26:55
- 27:06 Administration asked for approval of the cafeteria equipment bid package, with bid comparison materials provided to the board.
- 27:29 Members confirmed the district had funds available and that board approval was required for the equipment bids.
- 27:54 Motion made and seconded; the bid package was approved by roll-call vote.
- 28:01 Roll-call votes recorded as yes from all members present.
Budget amendments 28:28
Budget Amendment 15 28:28
- 28:28 Amendment 15 moved funds into line items for tracking and reporting.
- 28:36 The first section covered the differentiated pay plan approved in June, including LOE/level-of-effectiveness bonuses, hard-to-fill position bonuses, and related differentiated-pay items.
- 29:03 The second section shifted CTE money for maintenance/repairs to auto mechanics lifts, including $11,000 moved from supplies/materials and equipment lines.
- 29:29 It also shifted funds for teacher travel between schools where staff are splitting time daily.
- 29:45 The final section moved special-education bus-driver costs into special-ed reporting codes so the district could track expenses and send required monthly state reports.
Budget Amendment 16 30:00
- 30:07 Amendment 16 added grant revenues.
- 30:15 Administration said the district had already received a school mental health grant through Ascension Saint Thomas for $155,000, with year-end reporting required on eligible expenditures.
- 30:32 Carryover from last year’s public school security grant was added to the budget.
- 30:41 Those security dollars included reimbursements for door upgrades at some schools.
- 30:49 Administration said $6,000 remained available for additional cameras if needed.
- 30:57 Security planning also included possible landscaping barriers near entrances to limit vehicles approaching buildings.
- 31:15 The final section covered a state special-education preschool grant, including carryover funds, support for two added pre-K positions to improve inclusion for special-ed pre-K students, plus equipment and instructional supply funding.
- 31:43 A member asked for clarification on coding abbreviations; administration explained DP as differentiated pay and SE as special education.
- 32:12 Motion made and seconded to approve budget amendments 15 and 16.
- 32:26 The amendments passed by roll-call vote with all members voting yes.
Policy review and approval 33:02
Policy 1.806 tabled 33:02
- 33:02 Administration said one policy remained up for review: 1.806.
- 33:15 A member asked to table policy 1.806, citing the proximity to the election and preferring to revisit it at the next meeting.
- 33:38 Motion and second were made to table the item and return it under review at the next meeting.
- 33:46 The board approved tabling 1.806.
Policies 5.101–5.1101 approved 34:06
- 34:06 The board then considered policies 5.101 through 5.1101.
- 34:17 Motion made and seconded to approve the policy set.
- 34:23 The board approved policies 5.101–5.1101 without extended discussion captured in the transcript.
Discussion Items 34:36
Athletics admission pricing and officials costs 35:13
- 35:21 Administration said this discussion came from concerns raised at the prior meeting about admission prices, especially for families. A family of four was said to pay $28 to attend football games under existing pricing.
- 35:49 After a prior meeting with athletic leadership, the district had agreed to reduced admission prices for students within each school’s feeder system.
- 36:37 The rationale for the discount was that lower student prices might increase attendance and concession spending, helping booster-run concession operations.
- 37:00 Administration reported that roughly 200 students at each high school had used the discount this fall.
- 37:08 At a $4 discount each, that was estimated as an $800 revenue loss per game to football.
- 37:23 Over a typical five-game home football season, the estimated football revenue reduction was $4,000.
- 38:00 Administration also clarified that for the upcoming East Hickman playoff game, district passes and local discount arrangements would not apply because postseason ticketing is controlled outside the district; tickets would cost $8 online and $10 at the gate.
- 39:09 A board member argued football is already expensive to operate and equipment and officiating costs are significant; he opposed reducing revenue without a replacement plan.
- 39:18 Specific cost pressure mentioned included helmets costing around $400 apiece and six officials at about $125–$150 each for a game.
- 39:41 He said surrounding counties often charge more, including $10 general admission and in some places parking charges, and urged caution about underpricing games.
- 41:48 Another member said she understood both sides: the affordability concern for families and the financial loss to football.
- 42:18 The director of schools proposed a compromise: keep discounted admission for students/families but offset sports losses by having the school system pay officials for all regular-season home games.
- 43:12 He estimated that paying officials across sports, including middle school, would cost about $40,000.
- 43:29 He argued this would help lower-revenue sports that struggle to cover officials, avoid taking money from football/basketball, and reduce repeated fundraising demands on businesses and families.
- 44:18 He said the $40,000 estimate came after discussions with athletic directors, principals, and bookkeepers, and asked whether the board wanted a more detailed written plan.
- 45:21 Members generally asked for more information rather than immediate action.
- 45:31 One member suggested raising admission to $5 and $10 as a modest increase that could help revenue and simplify handling cash/change.
- 46:52 Another idea discussed was a school-specific annual family or student sports pass covering multiple sports at one school, to encourage attendance beyond football and basketball while offering a bundled discount.
- 48:30 Members suggested bringing back options that might include both ticket-price changes and partial district help with officiating costs.
- 49:03 Administration noted officials receive mileage add-ons beyond 30 miles, and larger add-ons beyond 60 miles, further increasing costs.
- 49:26 It was also noted that Tennessee has a shortage of football officials, requiring each team to play one Thursday night game so crews can cover schedules.
- 49:57 A member who originally raised the issue said East End families had been very pleased with the reduced prices and had complained previously that one side of the county was getting student discounts while the other was not.
- 50:29 She argued raising prices again could hurt attendance and family access.
- 50:57 Another member said many county families are under financial strain and described the possible $40,000 district contribution as an investment in students and families.
- 49:41 / 1:18:46 The board did not vote on pricing or subsidy changes; administration was asked to return in January with proposals.
Therapy dog policy / administrative guidelines 52:10
- 52:18 Administration reopened discussion of a proposed therapy dog policy originally brought in June 2023, identified in discussion as item 3.218.2, which had been tabled and never resolved.
- 52:58 The director said he had recently reviewed the proposed policy, an older legal letter from former counsel Deborah Owens, and insurance correspondence regarding liability.
- 55:08 He summarized a 2021 study from Australia and said a successful therapy dog program requires a targeted need, a capable trained handler, school support, and protection of the dog’s welfare.
- 57:09 He highlighted barriers: the handler’s workload, lack of clear processes, and lack of school-community understanding or support.
- 58:02 He said the 2023 proposed policy required the dog to be “AKC trained,” but his review found the American Kennel Club does not itself train therapy dogs; rather, it recognizes approved organizations that do.
- 58:39 He said any policy or guideline would need clearer wording that the dog be trained by an AKC-approved organization.
- 58:48 He summarized cited benefits: lowering physiological stress symptoms, improving positive emotions and engagement, reducing negative behaviors such as aggression or task avoidance, promoting prosocial behavior, and helping some younger students with reading and self-esteem.
- 59:52 He also reviewed concerns: dog welfare, sanitation, student allergies, student fear/phobias, overwork, and liability.
- 1:00:48 He said Tennessee Risk Management had advised in spring 2023 that a properly trained dog from an approved organization would be covered under district insurance.
- 1:01:39 A member noted an upcoming convention session on therapy dogs and pointed to Franklin Special School District, said to have therapy dogs in six schools, as a nearby example.
- 1:02:22 Members planned to attend the convention session to gather policy examples and implementation details.
- 1:02:49 The director said current attorney Scott Bennett, who represents multiple Tennessee school districts, questioned whether this should be handled by board policy at all; some districts instead use administrative guidelines.
- 1:03:28 Even if handled administratively, he said the operational rules would still need to parallel any policy language on training, management, and safety.
- 1:03:51 The biggest practical question identified was who would handle the dog.
- 1:03:58 He described the earlier local idea: a PE assistant at Hickman County Middle School had a dog, but he questioned how someone supervising repeated middle-school PE classes could also properly manage and care for a therapy dog.
- 1:04:54 He said in most examples he reviewed, the dog was based in a counselor’s office, where students with anxiety or other difficulties naturally go.
- 1:05:20 A possible trial basis was discussed, as was a districtwide shared-dog model where one dog rotates among schools instead of assigning one dog permanently to one campus.
- 1:05:53 A member asked whether an outside trained handler could be used so school employees would not absorb the workload.
- 1:06:01 Administration responded that both the dog and the handler would need training.
- 1:06:15 Members discussed whether a retired person or outside volunteer could serve in that role.
- 1:07:12 The director said therapy dogs are not breed-specific; any calm, passive, nonaggressive dog can qualify if properly trained, though he had originally assumed the role would be filled by a golden retriever-type breed.
- 1:08:18 A member recalled at least one family had raised concerns about a child’s fear of dogs, reinforcing the need for caution.
- 1:09:19 Another member said the board should allow more input from administration and the district’s new attorney before acting.
- 1:09:41 Administration added that parent input is important and that strict location controls are required for students with allergies to pet dander.
- 1:10:04 He said the dog could not be placed in settings like PE where all students must attend and allergy avoidance would be impossible.
- 1:10:28 He said parents would need forms at the start of the school year identifying allergies and related concerns so dog access can be restricted appropriately.
- 1:10:51 Motion was made and seconded to postpone action and continue work on the item until June, partly to allow more staff/legal review and possible changes after the election.
- 1:11:31 Administration asked that any final decision come by the June meeting so principals would still have time to incorporate rules into handbooks, which are prepared in June and July.
- 1:11:48 The motion was clarified to aim for finalization by June 2, 2025.
- 1:12:13 A member suggested contacting the five districts that received a therapy-dog grant for the 2024–25 school year to learn from their implementation.
- 1:12:47 The same member said the grant was around $110,000, illustrating that training and startup can be expensive.
- 1:12:56 Basic dog training costs were cited at about $5,000.
- 1:13:11 Another member said she had previously contacted several school districts with therapy dogs and could share their feedback with staff and board members.
- 1:14:09 Although it had been listed as discussion, a motion and second were already on the floor, so the board voted.
- 1:14:39 The board approved continued development and further discussion of the therapy dog proposal/guidelines, with a target to finalize by June 2, 2025.
- 1:15:07 Administration noted that, if handled as policy, the matter would likely need a first reading in May before final action.
Announcements 1:15:46
Next meeting and legislative update 1:15:46
- 1:15:46 The next board meeting was announced for December 9, 2024.
- 1:15:56 The legislative representative said there was no major report yet, other than upcoming convention sessions where members expected to hear more about likely state legislative issues.
Board member and school updates 1:17:16
- 1:17:16 East Hickman High School was announced as host of its first regional football game on November 8.
- 1:17:24 A culinary department teacher, identified as Miss Bingham/Miss Bigham as heard, received around $6,000 tied to participation in the Banana Pudding Festival.
- 1:17:32 Many students had signed up for dual-credit career classes in conjunction with TCAT Hohenwald.
- 1:17:39 The soapbox derby added to homecoming activities was reported as a success.
- 1:17:39 Both high school journalism classes were said to be writing one page per month for publication by Mr. Martin at the Hickman County Times.
- 1:17:55 A representative of the Tennessee Department of Highway Safety / state troopers planned to come the following week to present a distracted-driving “Save a Life Tour,” including a vehicle simulator setup, to high school students.
- 1:18:46 A student representative urged the board to revisit the idea of broad student sports passes to encourage attendance across all sports.
Board packet / paper copies discussion 1:19:28
- 1:19:28 Members questioned whether large printed board-policy packets were still necessary when most materials are tracked online.
- 1:20:02 Administration said schools still need a hard copy at the top level and that maintaining and updating full printed sets is labor-intensive.
- 1:20:40 The chair said a copy of the Tennessee education law annotated/book would be obtained for a member after discussion of who still needed one.
Adjournment 1:21:11
- 1:21:11 The board moved to adjourn.
Key figures and statistics
| Figure | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6:30 | Time | Meeting start time stated by chair | 15:14 |
| December 13–14 | Date | Dates for school musical Into the Woods | 16:11 |
| October 21, 2024 | Date | Prior meeting minutes approved | 18:52 |
| September 16 | Date | Start of Tanya Williams’s acting transportation-director service | 19:46 |
| 20th annual | Event number | Marlin’s Classic basketball tournament | 21:54 |
| Nine | Headcount | Girls basketball players expected on Panama City trip | 22:14 |
| Two | Headcount | Staff chaperones for girls basketball trip | 22:14 |
| December 26 | Date | Planned departure date for basketball trip | 23:32 |
| Fourth place | Placement | Dane Gilbert’s finish in state golf tournament | 24:32 |
| 2024 | Year | Dane Gilbert accomplishments listed for 2024 season | 24:38 |
| Five | Headcount | Sophomores in state golf field | 25:02 |
| 65 | Headcount | Total players in state golf field | 25:02 |
| 15 | Amendment number | Budget Amendment 15 | 28:28 |
| $11,000 | Transfer | CTE funds moved for auto-mechanics lift maintenance/repairs | 29:21 |
| 16 | Amendment number | Budget Amendment 16 | 30:00 |
| $155,000 | Grant | School mental health grant through Ascension Saint Thomas | 30:15 |
| $6,000 | Security funding | Remaining amount for additional cameras | 30:49 |
| Two | Positions | Added pre-K positions for special-ed inclusion | 31:22 |
| 1.806 | Policy number | Policy tabled until next meeting | 33:09 |
| 5.101–5.1101 | Policy range | Policies approved | 34:06 |
| Summer 2023 | Time period | When admission-price concerns were first expressed | 35:28 |
| $28 | Admission total | Cost cited for a family of four to attend football game | 35:35 |
| 200 | Headcount | Students using discount prices at each high school this fall | 37:00 |
| $4 | Discount | Per-ticket student discount amount | 37:08 |
| $800 | Revenue loss | Estimated football revenue loss per game from discounts | 37:15 |
| Five | Game count | Typical home football games in a 10-game season | 37:23 |
| 10 | Game count | Typical total football games in a season | 37:29 |
| $4,000 | Revenue loss | Estimated football-season loss from discount tickets | 37:29 |
| $8 | Ticket price | Online playoff ticket price | 38:15 |
| $10 | Ticket price | Gate playoff ticket price | 38:23 |
| $400 | Equipment cost | Approximate football helmet cost cited in discussion | 39:18 |
| Six | Headcount | Football officials per game | 39:33 |
| $125–$150 | Pay rate | Approximate cost per official | 39:33 |
| $40,000 | Expense estimate | District cost to pay officials for regular home games | 43:12 |
| 1/1000 | Budget fraction | Director’s comparison of $40,000 to district budget | 43:21 |
| $5 | Proposed ticket price | Suggested lower-tier admission price in future pricing review | 45:57 |
| $10 | Proposed ticket price | Suggested upper-tier admission price in future pricing review | 45:57 |
| 30 miles | Mileage threshold | Distance after which officials get extra pay | 49:03 |
| 60 miles | Mileage threshold | Higher distance for larger mileage add-on | 49:11 |
| $35 million | Budget size | Approximate district budget cited during affordability debate | 51:13 |
| June 2023 | Date | Original therapy-dog proposal timeframe | 52:18 |
| 2021 | Year | Australian therapy-dog study cited | 55:08 |
| Eight hours | Time span | Example used to say dogs cannot interact nonstop all day | 56:29 |
| Spring 2023 | Date | Insurance coverage communication on trained therapy dogs | 1:00:48 |
| Six | School count | Franklin Special School District schools said to have therapy dogs | 1:02:01 |
| 17 | District count | Number of districts attorney Scott Bennett said to represent | 1:02:49 |
| 50 | Headcount | Students per PE period used to explain handler-workload concern | 1:04:30 |
| Eight | School count | Example of one rotating therapy dog serving eight schools | 1:05:27 |
| June 2, 2025 | Date | Target date to finalize therapy-dog policy/guidelines | 1:14:46 |
| Five | District count | Districts said to receive therapy-dog grant in 2024–25 | 1:12:13 |
| 2024–25 | School year | Therapy-dog grant pilot year discussed | 1:12:38 |
| $110,000 | Grant | Approximate therapy-dog grant amount cited | 1:12:47 |
| $5,000 | Training cost | Basic therapy-dog training cost cited | 1:12:56 |
| December 9, 2024 | Date | Next board meeting | 1:15:46 |
| November 8 | Date | East Hickman regional football game date | 1:17:16 |
| $6,000 | Revenue / award | Culinary department amount from Banana Pudding Festival participation | 1:17:24 |
| One page per month | Publication rate | Journalism classes writing for local newspaper | 1:17:39 |
| 26th | Count | Approximate number of meetings a member said he had attended | 1:19:45 |
External vendors, brands, and software
| Name | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ascension Saint Thomas | Company | Source of $155,000 school mental health grant | 30:15 |
| TSSAA | Company | State golf championship / playoff ticketing authority discussed | 24:32 |
| American Kennel Club | Company | Therapy-dog training standard discussed; approved organizations referenced | 58:08 |
| Tennessee Risk Management | Company | Insurance coverage for trained therapy dog | 1:00:48 |
| Scott Bennett | Individual | Current school attorney consulted on whether therapy-dog rules should be policy or guidelines | 1:02:49 |
| Franklin Special School District | Company | Neighboring district cited as example using therapy dogs in six schools | 1:01:54 |
| TCAT Hohenwald | Company | Dual-credit career classes partnership | 1:17:32 |
Personnel changes
| Name | Role / office | Change | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tanya Williams | Administrative Assistant, Maintenance and Transportation | Acting assignment noted | Serving as acting transportation director since September 16 during prolonged leave of absence; recognized in employee award, but no board action on status change recorded | 19:46 |
Laws and policies
| Citation / name | Level | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Policy 1.806 | School | Policy | Policy up for review; tabled until next meeting | 33:09 |
| Policies 5.101–5.1101 | School | Policy | Policy set approved by board | 34:06 |
| Robert’s Rules of Order | School | Rule | Cited to explain why a long-tabled item had to return as discussion rather than remain tabled indefinitely | 34:57 |
| Therapy dog proposed policy 3.218.2 | School | Policy | Proposed therapy-dog policy from 2023 reopened for discussion; continued for more development toward June 2025 finalization | 52:18 |
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15:1415 minutes, 14 secondsright it is 6:30 and so uh we have
15:2215 minutes, 22 secondsone sign up to speak Mr Jack
15:3115 minutes, 31 secondshello School Board people behind me uh last uh meeting I was asked by one Cherry Baker to give a general overview
15:3915 minutes, 39 secondsof things going on at the school General activities so I guess this is it uh so we are just wrapping up the football season I think we've done an annal job
15:4815 minutes, 48 secondsmore than I could ever expect uh from the team this season so I give my congratulations to them uh we are
15:5515 minutes, 55 secondswinding up our uh basketball team uh That season starts in a couple weeks I'm very excited for it hope to see what the
16:0416 minutes, 4 secondsfollowup is after last year's Killer Season uh we have a uh musical being put
16:1116 minutes, 11 secondson on December 13th and 14th which I'm looking forward to uh that'll be Kristen Carter's first uh musical production
16:1816 minutes, 18 secondsbefore the school ever uh so that's something to look forward to uh in terms of like negatives uh senior rtis is
16:2716 minutes, 27 secondsreally kicking in folks uh I'm I'm getting a lot of apathy from some of the older students at the
16:3416 minutes, 34 secondsschool uh however uh there are enough we're we're having enough activity that still people are generally pretty
16:4216 minutes, 42 secondsexcited about what's come next uh specifically tomorrow we're having awesome te tour so a lot of kids are going out sorry uh I think I think
16:5116 minutes, 51 secondsthat's sort of the general overview from what I gathered in my two weeks uh we have the Duck River video coming out
16:5816 minutes, 58 secondssorry out there uh so y'all can watch it at some point from the FTA team uh and I think uh I'd like to end off my report
17:0717 minutes, 7 secondsquestion uh generally what are yall excited about right now basketball basketball basketball what's the name of
17:1517 minutes, 15 secondsthe play uh into the woods yes hopefully who who's Lady this
17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsyear on since we lost our that's yes
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsexciting yes from what I've seen
17:3817 minutes, 38 secondsgreat thank you Jack thank you Jack appreciate that report from the our students okay it's time now for moment
17:4717 minutes, 47 secondsof silence
18:0918 minutes, 9 secondsflag United States stand
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsna indivisible withy andice for
18:2718 minutes, 27 secondsall five the board agend a motion make a motion to approve the
18:3618 minutes, 36 secondsNovember agenda I Mr H and miss that
18:4418 minutes, 44 secondscorrect all in favor
18:5218 minutes, 52 secondssix uh our minutes from our October 21st 2024 meeting
18:5918 minutes, 59 secondsmotion to approve make motion to approve for October
19:0619 minutes, 6 secondsmeeting all in favor okay special recognition item
19:1519 minutes, 15 secondsseven employee of the month
19:3019 minutes, 30 secondsTanya Williams is an excellent hit County School District employee she serves as an administrative assistant to
19:3719 minutes, 37 secondsboth maintenance and transportation she manages the purchasing and procurement for both Apartments since September the 16th Miss Williams has ad deply served
19:4619 minutes, 46 secondsas acting Transportation director due to a protracted lead of absence she has gone above and beyond the Call of Duty
19:5319 minutes, 53 secondsto staff our click da to monitor bus cameras for building level administrators and to assist with our annual bus inspections Miss Williams is
20:0120 minutes, 1 secondvery worthy of being named the employee of the month appreciatively John Mullins
20:3120 minutes, 31 secondsall right item 7 B athlete and coaches recognition we are delaying this until
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsCoach Dawson can get here for a basketball practice okay I wonder where I was thinking where were yeah I was
20:4620 minutes, 46 secondsokay we're going to delay that until Coach Dawson gets here from basketball practice okay we'll move on to item
20:5320 minutes, 53 secondseight uh our agenda we need a uh make a motion to approve the consent agenda
21:0121 minutes, 1 seconditems second all second all in
21:1021 minutes, 10 secondsfavor items requiring number nine requiring board action R
21:1721 minutes, 17 secondsrequest Hitman high school girls
21:2621 minutes, 26 secondsbasketball I got go you we're we're
21:4721 minutes, 47 secondsasking our girls basketball team we're asking permission uh for an overnight trip uh in
21:5421 minutes, 54 secondsDecember uh we plan to go to a tournament down in Panama Florida it's the Marlin's classic their 20th annual
22:0222 minutes, 2 secondsclassic which you have girls and boys basketball team that is there uh we have
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondsgot the cost uh for a tournament fee uh I have nine
22:1422 minutes, 14 secondsgirls uh they will stay at their own uh place there with two other saff chaperon
22:2122 minutes, 21 secondsand the coaches and some of our family members that are planning to go will stay somewhere totally separately from our girls which is will stay in the
22:3022 minutes, 30 secondsvicinity area this is a great opportunity for our girls to uh to spend some time together outside
22:3922 minutes, 39 secondsof school and do something that they enjoy uh doing uh with the young team this year will get the opportunity to
22:4622 minutes, 46 secondsplay against good competition uh to represent our state uh several teams from Tennessee do travel
22:5422 minutes, 54 secondsdown south to play for for Christmas ter if they use it as the bonding thing um the tourament is Friday
23:0223 minutes, 2 secondsSaturday uh there's no games on Sunday there is some
23:0823 minutes, 8 secondsuh some activities they have for players who are there to participate in a three-point shooting
23:1623 minutes, 16 secondscontest uh a slam dunk contest which I don't have anybody that but some things that they could do and do outside of uh
23:2423 minutes, 24 secondswhile they're down there just to spend some time together and give us an opportunity to spend some time together during Christmas
23:3223 minutes, 32 secondsum we were traveling at on the 26th uh down there well our last game
23:3923 minutes, 39 secondswill be that Monday and we will travel back then and that's where hope to do
23:4523 minutes, 45 secondsrepresent our school in our uh State uh in the State of Florida dur that time we asking permission to allow us to
23:5523 minutes, 55 secondsstay during that time make motion to approve the trip for the SCH girls basketball trip
24:0324 minutes, 3 secondssecond all in favor have a good trip say trip thank
24:1024 minutes, 10 secondsyou co co Dawson has arrived so we're going to go back to
24:2324 minutes, 23 secondsDr 7 B so I get the h of presenting Dane Gilbert with a
24:3224 minutes, 32 secondscertificate of achievement um for his fourth place finish in the twaa State
24:3824 minutes, 38 secondsGolf Tournament um but I want to list his 2024 accomplishments he was the Tennessee River tournament individual
24:4724 minutes, 47 secondsChampion The District Tournament individual Champion the region tournament individual runner up he was
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsfourth place in the twaa State Golf Championship uh was one of only five sophomores in
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondsthe field of 65 players uh he is earning All State honors for his top 10 in the
25:0925 minutes, 9 secondsstate tournament which means upon graduation his golf Jersey will be retired so we would like to congratulate
25:1625 minutes, 16 secondsDane uh as well as his coaches
25:4725 minutes, 47 secondscongratulations to coach Dawson and Coach Shelton for coaching Dane and he played golf I know he's got his own
25:5525 minutes, 55 secondslittle golf course there in the front yard don't he or something that's quite an
26:0526 minutes, 5 secondsaccomplish all right back to our uh items requiring board action uh
26:1426 minutes, 14 seconds9B Dr Anders Lea compliance report I believe you have a copy of it
26:2226 minutes, 22 secondsand all it is is saying that we as an agency are all in compliance okay something that we have to approve with a board each year
26:3126 minutes, 31 secondsso we need a motion to approve that we'll get a motion and second we'll
26:3926 minutes, 39 secondsapprove I make a motion we approve the Lea compliance report for 2021
26:4626 minutes, 46 secondsI'll and so all in favor thank
26:5526 minutes, 55 secondsDr food service equipment B Miss Burns 9 C final list
27:0627 minutes, 6 secondsthere approval for our capture equipment bid pack I have a a bid for that shows
27:1427 minutes, 14 secondswhat we did what each company did and the recommendation we had time to look at
27:2227 minutes, 22 secondsthis this got all individual things here so yeah so
27:2927 minutes, 29 secondsyes had the money yes we need this needed board to
27:4427 minutes, 44 secondsdo we equipment bids
27:5427 minutes, 54 secondsfor I'll second that all
28:0128 minutes, 1 secondokay roll call vote Dr C yes Miss yes M Baker yes Mr G yes Mr Hobs yes Mr Lan
28:1028 minutes, 10 secondsyes m m yes thank you m thank you
28:2828 minutes, 28 secondsokay budget amendment 15 uh is just moving some money into some light items so we can track uh expenditures the
28:3628 minutes, 36 secondsfirst section you see up there deals with our differentiated pay plan which was approved by the board in June uh
28:4428 minutes, 44 secondsthat will cover LOE level of Effectiveness bonuses some hard fill position uh bonus pay uh basically the
28:5428 minutes, 54 secondssame type of differentiate pay plan we put in there each year along with a few other small items in that differentiated
29:0329 minutes, 3 secondspay plan uh the second section let you see on budget amendment 15 is to move some money around in our CTE
29:1229 minutes, 12 secondsprogram uh we've got some maintenance and repairs that need to be done to some of our um auto mechanics lifts and so
29:2129 minutes, 21 secondswe're moving $11,000 into that coming from some of that is coming from the other Supply
29:2929 minutes, 29 secondsand materials and some equipment dollars that that we have available and then also uh we're paying some travel costs
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsfor teachers that are driving between each schools uh this year um each day as
29:4529 minutes, 45 secondsthey're splitting their time and so moving some funds in there the bottom section is dealing with our special ed bus drivers and it's just moving that
29:5429 minutes, 54 secondsinto those special ed reporting codes so we're able to um track that and send
30:0030 minutesthat report each month uh to the state budget amendment 16 is some additional
30:0730 minutes, 7 secondsGrant revenues uh the first one is a uh School mental mental health grant that
30:1530 minutes, 15 secondsis coming through Ascension St Thomas for $155,000 we have already received those funds and we had to report to them
30:2430 minutes, 24 secondsuh at the end of the year how those funds were expensed in relation to um what they attend them over for uh we
30:3230 minutes, 32 secondshave some carryover dollars for a public school security Grant from last year and um that's getting those budgeted that
30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsincludes uh we've already spent some of that and so we'll be reimbursed for upgrading our doors at some of our
30:4930 minutes, 49 secondsschools uh we still have $6,000 in there for additional cameras if needed and uh
30:5730 minutes, 57 secondsthen we're looking at uh Landscaping needs um uh barriers that maybe be able to be put in front of some of the school
31:0631 minutes, 6 secondsentrances to limit Vehicles going up into those things along with other possibilities uh the bottom section
31:1531 minutes, 15 secondsthere is the state special education preschool Grant uh part of that is carryover dollars from what was not
31:2231 minutes, 22 secondsexpensed last year we had added and covered two position additional positions in our
31:2931 minutes, 29 secondsprek uh for more inclusiveness uh for sped prek students uh along with you'll
31:3631 minutes, 36 secondssee some equipment uh funds in there and instructional Supply
31:4331 minutes, 43 secondsfunds okay the DP and SC is that identified something more specific like you said what are those two terms are uh
31:5231 minutes, 52 secondsDP is differentiated pay okay SE is special in and so it looks at our transportation and such an special web
32:0032 minutesand it's really it's not a new line item it's just a call
32:1232 minutes, 12 secondscenter 15 and 16 budg motion approve 15
32:2632 minutes, 26 secondsbudg Ro call what Miss har yes Miss Baker Mr gam yes
32:3432 minutes, 34 secondsMr hog Mr L yes Miss M yes Dr C
32:5432 minutes, 54 secondsyes I'm chok up sorry that's all right we're run we're running a good
33:0233 minutes, 2 secondstime we're one's up for review and we have 1.
33:0933 minutes, 9 seconds806 and then we have um 5101 to
33:1533 minutes, 15 seconds51101 I would like to uh table8
33:2333 minutes, 23 seconds1.86 just VI to this close to elction I would like to table
33:3033 minutes, 30 secondsthat table meing at the next meeting right that's fine is that any intent yes sir so you want to bring it up the next
33:3833 minutes, 38 secondsmeeting under review right under review again yes would y all approve I make a second
33:4633 minutes, 46 secondsto do that all in favor
33:5633 minutes, 56 secondsokay and now 5101 to
34:0634 minutes, 6 seconds51101 any questions about any make a motion we approve 5101
34:1734 minutes, 17 secondsthrough 51101 excuse
34:2334 minutes, 23 secondsme favor
34:3634 minutes, 36 secondshere we can see on our information sheet we want to talk about that it's on here about the
34:4334 minutes, 43 seconds3.2 18.2 I I was just saying
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondswe was moving that to discussion because we had tabled that policy so long
34:5734 minutes, 57 secondsit was no longer bable due to the Robert R orders
35:0635 minutes, 6 secondsso now we got discussion number
35:1335 minutes, 13 seconds10 mission calls to athletic be answered you yeah uh Mr Hobbs both of
35:2135 minutes, 21 secondsthese items under new Mor Mr Hobs asked that they can be discussed at this meeting at the last meeting
35:2835 minutes, 28 secondsPS um in the summer 23 concerns were expressed about the cost of admission
35:3535 minutes, 35 secondsespecially for families family four would pay $28 to get in our football
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsgames so in a meeting uh uh with the two athletic directors M Mr Elkins has
35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsathletic director responsibilities athletic responsibility he's the just he's the go-to person for both of our athletic Direct he is the
35:5835 minutes, 58 secondscounty athletic director and I and I in the meeting and um we agreed to reduce
36:0636 minutes, 6 secondsthe cost of admission for students in their feeder system now what I mean by the feeder system is this students at
36:1536 minutes, 15 secondsEckman Elementary Intermediate Middle School and E Eckman High School would get the discount prices that a home be
36:2236 minutes, 22 secondssickman gaining students in a Centerville Elementary Centerville intermediate County Middle School Hitman County High School would get the
36:3036 minutes, 30 secondsdiscount prices in a home game and uh we thought that possibly the produc prices
36:3736 minutes, 37 secondscould lead to an increase in attendance at the game and it could lead to an increase in the amount of money spent at
36:4436 minutes, 44 secondsthe concession stands uh at both high schools for instance um the booster clubs have the concession stands so um
36:5336 minutes, 53 secondsthat that's how this came to be um we have had in both high schools this this
37:0037 minutesfall 200 students taking advantage of the discount prices so they're getting a
37:0837 minutes, 8 secondsdiscount of $4 so 200 uh times $4 is uh
37:1537 minutes, 15 secondscomes out to be a $800 uh loss per game of Revenue that goes to
37:2337 minutes, 23 secondsfootball uh and over a five games home season uh high high school football in
37:2937 minutes, 29 secondsTennessee plays 10 games 99% of the time five of those will be home and five will be away it's a $4,000 loss uh to
37:3937 minutes, 39 secondsfootball and so Mr uh Mr Hobbs wanted to talk about it uh the
37:4737 minutes, 47 secondsuh the coach at Eckman High School uh he he's expressed the concern about the
37:5437 minutes, 54 seconds$44,000 loss I before I go for I would like to say this e High School is
38:0038 minutesplaying a playoff game uh this week R playing Riverside High School once you get in the playoffs the school district
38:0838 minutes, 8 secondshas uh has no authority over over the cost of admission the the cost the cost
38:1538 minutes, 15 secondsof admission is $8 if you go to online and buy the ticket I sent the link to everyone today at the gate the cost will
38:2338 minutes, 23 secondsbe $10 and and at this game this week uh all of our all of our teachers receive
38:2938 minutes, 29 secondsuh passes to attend athletic events and those passes are honored throughout the county but those passes are no longer
38:3738 minutes, 37 secondsvalid they will not be valid in any playoff situation and they will not be valid this Friday night nor can we allow
38:4538 minutes, 45 secondsthe uh discount tickets for students to to be in existence so I wanted to be clear about that because I don't want
38:5338 minutes, 53 secondssomeone to come to game and be disappointed that their P can't be honored or they can't purchase a discount ticket so that's how we got to
39:0139 minutes, 1 secondthe situation and uh Mr Hobbs wanted to he has concerns about it Mr Hobs would you
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondslike to speak to it yeah uh football is very expensive if we all know I passed out a sheet that shows you how much it cost to even put a game on and when you
39:1839 minutes, 18 secondsstart taking money away from that program a helmet's $0 something dollars I was out there one night and one of the
39:2539 minutes, 25 secondskids come off and look my helmet's broke know helmet and they have to been inspected so it's very expensive there's
39:3339 minutes, 33 secondssix officials at about $125 $150 a pop you do the math on that and we'll give a discount tickets way I check to other
39:4139 minutes, 41 secondscounties around us somehow some polies some don't Williams County you go up there it's 10 bucks a pile period plus
39:4839 minutes, 48 secondsparking some places for charging uh so we are getting at $7 uh a cheap price for football
39:5839 minutes, 58 secondscompared to what I've been some other places to see and I don't want us to lose money I don't want the programs to lose money here's the thing about sports
40:0640 minutes, 6 secondsand I think each one of you in here has been a coach knows if you have a good team you're going to have people's going
40:1340 minutes, 13 secondsto come watch you if you have a four team you're not I've been to too many games where basketball especially a
40:2240 minutes, 22 secondsgroup shows up to watch one team play they leave when the other team comes out or buy some versus because it just weren't that good people
40:3040 minutes, 30 secondsjust not going to stick them out I call that UT method UT's Got a Good Year people will fight to get a ticket they got bad year they get
40:3840 minutes, 38 secondsticket those Auburn tickets are pretty cheap I saw graduate I know allet pretty out year
40:4740 minutes, 47 secondsyeah I bet they are us to get that thing but reason I don't want to see a store cut their throats you know uh I've been
40:5640 minutes, 56 secondsall over you know United States more States than I want Count watching basketball I got kids involved in it two
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsthat play basketball at a college level uh one a grandchild and another playing fixing play and probably a grandson
41:1141 minutes, 11 secondsCollege well so and those places aren't cheap so plus you got travel we got five games at home and you got five games
41:1941 minutes, 19 secondswe've been lucky that East to have a big following the games uh with it
41:2741 minutes, 27 secondsand sitting in r two games we sit there and dble off of us you know was coming down but we sit
41:3441 minutes, 34 secondsthere and uh we have to pay those guys yeah well I'm sorry I didn't C you oh
41:4241 minutes, 42 secondswell you might as well like just keep on well here's what I here is I
41:4841 minutes, 48 secondsunderstand both sides of this and so uh understand that it's a struggle for some
41:5541 minutes, 55 secondspeople they have especially a large family to come to the game and I understand the value of the discount tickets and I also understand
42:0342 minutes, 3 secondsuh the perspective that that $4,000 for those uh 200 tickets is a loss to
42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsfootball so so the compromise that I would like to ask the board to let us
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondspursue is this um it's it's not football and basketball are the two sports in our
42:2542 minutes, 25 secondsdistrict that are r new producing because because of the number of Spectators we have other sports softball
42:3442 minutes, 34 secondssoccer volleyball uh baseball they struggle getting enough gate receipts to
42:4342 minutes, 43 secondsbe able to afford their officials Mr Hobs when he spoke to this last October uh recant recanted a story where he went
42:5142 minutes, 51 secondsto the hardware store this fall in Bon Aqua and there was girls washing cars cuz they were trying to raise money money for the officials in the next
42:5942 minutes, 59 secondsweek's game so my compromise suggestion is for
43:0543 minutes, 5 secondsthe board to consider paying for the officials for all regular home season
43:1243 minutes, 12 secondsgames now that that's going to be a a large number I I I predict that it'll be about $40,000 which is a lot of money
43:2143 minutes, 21 secondsbut in our budget $40,000 is not one 1,000 of our budget and and here's what here's what that and
43:2943 minutes, 29 secondshere is what that would do uh it it would help those sports with less Revenue
43:3743 minutes, 37 secondstremendously uh it would keep us from taking money from any sport and it could decrease the amount of fundraising that
43:4643 minutes, 46 secondsgoes on in this County uh I know that people sitting at this table on businesses and I know every time you turn around somebody is asking you to
43:5543 minutes, 55 secondsdonate or buy something and and and and part of that is to pay the officials so
44:0144 minutes, 1 secondmy S my request is to let us come back to you with a more detailed plan I I
44:0944 minutes, 9 secondsdon't if if you don't like the idea I don't want to work on the plan if you if you say bring us something in writing I would be glad to work with Mr Elkin the
44:1844 minutes, 18 secondsathletic directors the principles I've already spoken to the bookkeepers that's how I came up with the uh $440,000
44:2544 minutes, 25 secondsestimate and and and I think we do this for Middle School also because because we just have a lot of fundraising and that would cut that would decrease
44:3444 minutes, 34 secondssignificantly the need for fundraising are you suggesting that we the reduce price that we have I'm I'm suggesting
44:4244 minutes, 42 secondsand it will be offset the laws will be offset by paying for the referee yes that's what I'm suggesting and then that and then that way we're not taking any
44:5044 minutes, 50 secondsmoney from a sport uh it becomes a budget item uh which anytime you're taking on $40,000
44:5744 minutes, 57 secondsadditional budget responsibility that's a big deal but I think we can take I think we can find ways to take that on
45:0445 minutes, 4 secondswithout any detrimental impact on the school district or on the budget and I I would love to hear uh some feedback on
45:1345 minutes, 13 secondsthat are you s suggesting a postponement until we get more information from you I'm looking for direct yes direction do
45:2145 minutes, 21 secondsyou want me to come back with something to show I would say we go further I mean I I do like the idea of uh paying
45:3145 minutes, 31 secondsfor the refs with out of the school budget I think that's a great idea uh but in terms of like generating
45:4045 minutes, 40 secondsRevenue because you know like Tim hob said you know that is a very football is an expensive sport basketball so volleyball sports are expensive just in
45:4945 minutes, 49 secondsgeneral uh and I think you know what we could do uh because you know everything's get more ensive we could
45:5745 minutes, 57 secondsjust raise ticket prices to 5 and 10 I think I think that's it's small enough you know family for two parents two kids
46:0646 minutes, 6 secondsto go to a game uh that's a $2 increase compared to right
46:1246 minutes, 12 secondsnow uh total my math may be wrong
46:2146 minutes, 21 secondsuh I think it it would also reduce the amount of change hand
46:2846 minutes, 28 secondsanybody the thing about uh sports like so expensive and people work hard to get sponsor that pays for a lot of stuff it
46:3746 minutes, 37 secondspays for different things uh principles know we got one athletic U director here
46:4446 minutes, 44 secondsthat knows that has to deal with all this all the time and uh I I've been talking around with some other districts and one of the things I came up with
46:5246 minutes, 52 secondsthat was not a bad idea is that is to have a School group price or family
46:5946 minutes, 59 secondsprice which means anybody wants to go the football basketball plays or fee all right and they go to whatever sport it
47:0847 minutes, 8 secondsis they get a pass you know annual pass an annual pass to any sport for that school not for any other school okay
47:1747 minutes, 17 secondsjust for that school and that would cut down price if they wanted to now how many kids go to other sports some
47:2747 minutes, 27 secondsno you suggesting like a 10% discount if you get a family pass or something or% come up with a number based on the
47:3647 minutes, 36 secondsnumber of games percentage percentage that's just one idea I mean have to come up that leg
47:4347 minutes, 43 secondsdirector going to have to come up that's not our setting prices that's not our job uh something you know I'm interested
47:5247 minutes, 52 secondsis as far as not schools to lose money and uh not being able to get the equipment stuff they need because you
48:0048 minutesknow unless something is there to replace of Revenue and that's something we'll have to think about and budget coming up after first of year right if
48:0848 minutes, 8 secondswhatever it is we'll have to think them now so we can't do anything now he's pretty well stable for what it is prices
48:1548 minutes, 15 secondsunless there's a change made by whoever made it or Lo with not us so y'all think
48:2248 minutes, 22 secondson that come back with us say j look at so of maybe increase that $3 to
48:3048 minutes, 30 secondsfive yeah and maybe your seven to 10 and look at maybe partially helping with the
48:3748 minutes, 37 secondscost of the refes and let the team be responsible for some of it because they that they're learning responsibility and that they've got to pay for
48:4648 minutes, 46 secondsthings yeah she knows her husband's been official uh when you go out of your area they charge
48:5548 minutes, 55 secondsmileage so it's there's one that they need that's out of the area they pay him whatever that cost is plus Mage yeah the
49:0349 minutes, 3 secondscost of officials it is a flat rate but if officials have to drive more than 30 uh 30 miles they get additional uh they
49:1149 minutes, 11 secondsget additional money for that I think it's $7.50 if they have Drive have to drive more than 60 miles they get a
49:1849 minutes, 18 secondslarger additional sum that's what that's what Mr Hobs is referring to and they're harder to get so yes price might go up
49:2649 minutes, 26 secondsyes um the in in the state of Tennessee There's a shortage of football officials so each team is required to play a Thursday night game uh each year so
49:3549 minutes, 35 secondsthere's enough officials to go around we just happened to get a rainy Thursday night that was Halloween for our two
49:4149 minutes, 41 secondsteams this year off and uh so uh what I heard from Mr H was to bring
49:4949 minutes, 49 secondsback some proposals in January and let the board consider those proposals I've got some to say because I was the one
49:5749 minutes, 57 secondswho brought this commissioner M to begin with and the people on the East End is the
50:0850 minutes, 8 secondsparents and that were extremely happy that the prices had went down um they
50:1550 minutes, 15 secondswere the ones who came to me and said hey why is Cal getting student discount prices but we're
50:2250 minutes, 22 secondsnot and so they were happy that the prices went down because it meant that they could allow their children to go to
50:2950 minutes, 29 secondsthe games they could bring more of their family to the games um so I don't know if raising the prices
50:3850 minutes, 38 secondswill actually it might hurt the team I'm going to say too I'm scho member two years and I got
50:4850 minutes, 48 secondsout it it was it was interesting to get out in filth district and ride all the way down Columbia I mean G and up
50:5750 minutes, 57 secondsthrough all the road back roads and there's a lot of good people in in this County but there's a lot of people that
51:0451 minutes, 4 secondsare really struggling right now financially and so I'm my heart leans that way I think you know 35 million do
51:1351 minutes, 13 secondsbudget right we say what $ 35 million budget I think we can find I see that
51:2251 minutes, 22 seconds40,000 as an investment in our family and our students and uh I like the idea I heard of this
51:3251 minutes, 32 secondsthere so that that's just me I and lot of us can afford but I uh but there's a lot of folks that uh that that amount of
51:3951 minutes, 39 secondsmoney to go for the ball game and then their kids are going to want to go to the concession I've have four children so I know and uh and and they go that
51:4851 minutes, 48 secondsgame they're going to smell out of hamburgers cooking they want to go down there and so I just I I just think that we could find it U you know just made so
51:5751 minutes, 57 secondsthat's just my
52:1052 minutes, 10 secondsokay you already moved it B yes Item B is uh there was a in June of uh
52:1852 minutes, 18 seconds2023 there was a propos board policy about uh that would that would have put
52:2752 minutes, 27 secondscommitted uh therapy dogs you have a copy of that policy.
52:3352 minutes, 33 seconds28.2 yeah you have a copy of that policy in your agenda policy was tabled and it has
52:4252 minutes, 42 secondsnever been uh it has never been uh it's never been discussed Mr Hobbs
52:5052 minutes, 50 secondsasked that it be discussed uh tonight so that's how I got it on the agenda
52:5852 minutes, 58 secondsuh I spent some time I just to be very transparent I have not spent any time with this proposed policy from June 23
53:0753 minutes, 7 secondsuntil it until Mr Hobs brought it back up in October but I have I have spent
53:1353 minutes, 13 secondssome time on this topic over the last uh few weeks um I read the information I
53:2253 minutes, 22 secondshave the proposed policy I have the uh letter from uh our the attorney at the
53:2853 minutes, 28 secondstime it was Deborah Owens uh also have the letter from the uh our insurance provider about
53:3653 minutes, 36 secondsliability uh and then in my reading this is unusual y'all have to forgive me uh in my reading about this article that I
53:4453 minutes, 44 secondslike the most is from Australia which I know that understand I fully understand I was born in Miss C I
53:5253 minutes, 52 secondsspent a large part of my life in Alabama I live in Tennessee and I'm bringing an article from Australia but I look for
53:5953 minutes, 59 secondsarticles that were not the opinion of one person this is a study and and and
54:0754 minutes, 7 secondsand uh yeah
54:1554 minutes, 15 secondsuh yeah thought I had apologize she got
54:2454 minutes, 24 secondsone yeah I got one I thought I that's what I was
54:3554 minutes, 35 secondsasking yeah that's what I was talking about oh I thought I I'm sorry
54:4254 minutes, 42 secondsanyway uh look got the one marked on front page Mark ready May
54:5154 minutes, 51 secondsone got your yeah it's fine we're running a really good time on this so yeah so uh this is this is a study that
55:0055 minuteswas done here we go thank you uh this is a study that was done in
55:0855 minutes, 8 secondsAustralia it's done in 2021 it's done by veterinarias and I thought I thought this study
55:1755 minutes, 17 secondsuh encompassed everything that is what what I've heard and what has been in my mind and so at the bottom
55:2555 minutes, 25 secondsof the front page it says to successfully Implement a therapy dog at a school
55:3355 minutes, 33 secondsum you have to your school your school should have a targeted need like we we should know what we want the Dog's
55:4155 minutes, 41 secondsPurpose to be and the second thing is the uh the person that is handling the dog is very
55:5055 minutes, 50 secondsfor it this in in uh in English and Australia that some words are used a little different they
55:5855 minutes, 58 secondssaid the uh qualities of the program instigator which is the dog handler uh instigator probably has a different
56:0556 minutes, 5 secondsmeaning for us and then it has to have the support of the home school and then
56:1156 minutes, 11 secondsyou have to keep the dog's uh welfare those are those are some things going into this what do we want the dog to do
56:2056 minutes, 20 secondswho's going to be in charge of the dog does the whole school understand what the purpose is and we have to keep into consideration the dog what what in
56:2956 minutes, 29 secondsmy reading it was common to be stated that you can't expect the
56:3756 minutes, 37 secondsdog to have eight hours a day interaction with groups of children that's just that's
56:4556 minutes, 45 secondsjust I mean dogs are uh kind of like me on the weekend they like naps and you
56:5256 minutes, 52 secondstemperamental I can't I have never growed you but
57:0057 minutesso anyway um so then that right after that on the top of the second page it says key
57:0957 minutes, 9 secondsbarriers the key barriers to being having a successful program is a high
57:1557 minutes, 15 secondsworkload now what that means is the person who is going to be the keeper of
57:2157 minutes, 21 secondsthe dog already has a full-time job and that do and so that that person is
57:2957 minutes, 29 secondsgoing to have to add another responsibility to their job is is keeping the is keeping the
57:3757 minutes, 37 secondsdoll in addition to uh you have to have the key VAR is a a lack of clear guidelines on processes lack of support
57:4657 minutes, 46 secondsfrom the school Community as and that includes the understanding of the role of the therapy doll and
57:5457 minutes, 54 secondsthen last par on this page um it says the dog has to be trained now in the
58:0258 minutes, 2 secondsproposed policy from 2023 it says that the dog has to be AKC
58:0858 minutes, 8 secondstrained and and and what I've learned is the AKC does not train Therapy Dogs the
58:1758 minutes, 17 secondsAKC has a group and they're in they in this handout the AKC has a group of
58:2558 minutes, 25 secondsapproved professional organizations that do train therapy dogs but but it's a
58:3258 minutes, 32 secondslittle vague if if we're going to write if we're going to do this and write this policy we need to have a little Clarity there the dog should be trained by an
58:3958 minutes, 39 secondsAKC approved organization and there are like six of these organizations and then on the next page
58:4858 minutes, 48 secondsit talks about the positive there there are lots of positives about therapy dogs just like there are lots of concerns uh
58:5658 minutes, 56 secondsthe positives are under the paragraph uh entitled impact of therapy dogs it says
59:0359 minutes, 3 secondsthey have been used to reduce uh pH uh physiological symptoms of stress that children have increasing positive
59:1259 minutes, 12 secondsemotions promoting engagement reducing NE negative behaviors such as task avoidance and aggression and encouraging
59:2159 minutes, 21 secondspro-social behaviors and then there are even studies in the next paragraph that
59:2759 minutes, 27 secondsuh adgs can have a uh positive learning impact especially in young children with reading there's a whole I had no idea
59:3759 minutes, 37 secondsthere is a whole body of research that uh dogs can improve self-esteem and
59:4459 minutes, 44 secondsself-esteem helps children learn how to read now on the next page are the concerns and the concerns are the same
59:5259 minutes, 52 secondsconcerns that have been in existence since this policy was first discussed the the welfare of the dog is a concern
1:00:001 hourthe sanitation of the dog the fact that some children have allergies that's the fact that some children have phobias
1:00:081 hour, 8 secondsabout dogs and uh the dog not being overwhelmed
1:00:161 hour, 16 secondsoverworked and and and in other articles I read it's Insurance liability
1:00:221 hour, 22 secondsinsurance was a concern but uh our the attorney
1:00:321 hour, 32 secondssorry don't ask me good job congratulations that's why I get her don't
1:00:381 hour, 38 secondsmind Che the uh the uh our we we get our insurance from
1:00:481 hour, 48 secondsTennessee risk management and the executive director of risk management communicated to the school district in
1:00:551 hour, 55 secondsthe spring of 2023 if we get a dog and that dog has been properly trained by one of those organizations that has been
1:01:031 hour, 1 minute, 3 secondsapproved by the American Kel Club then that dog is covered under
1:01:101 hour, 1 minute, 10 secondsour insurance so that's the rest of this is
1:01:171 hour, 1 minute, 17 secondsinteresting but that's basically a summary of of the situation with the dog
1:01:231 hour, 1 minute, 23 secondsthe dog has married the dog has concerns and I've covered all that and the dog has benefits so I'm going to let y'all
1:01:331 hour, 1 minute, 33 secondsask questions or open speak your opinion one of the things that speak come up
1:01:391 hour, 1 minute, 39 secondsthis weekend is uh convention and on Friday at 10:30 there is going to be a discussion about therapy doll positive
1:01:481 hour, 1 minute, 48 secondsattitude or impact on our schools and this is put on by schools that have thy
1:01:541 hour, 1 minute, 54 secondsdoll and uh our neighbors over here Franklin especially City schools has
1:02:011 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondsaid great look six yeah I think they have six schools and they have six therapy dogs so them it's worked out
1:02:091 hour, 2 minutes, 9 secondswell and we have children it's like they take dogs to hospital they take dogs to cancer center they take dogs to all over
1:02:151 hour, 2 minutes, 15 secondsplace it's a positive thing but uh the three of us that are going to this if we
1:02:221 hour, 2 minutes, 22 secondscan make that date or if you can or can I'm plan on making it uh to get more information and to get a copy uh their
1:02:311 hour, 2 minutes, 31 secondspolicy it looks like and how they've got it written know and then we can come back but first of off we can't find a dog it meets the criteria we don't need
1:02:391 hour, 2 minutes, 39 secondsto put a a dog in you know can't get old smokey from mut to come down and therapy you know it's not going to happen let me
1:02:491 hour, 2 minutes, 49 secondsspeak to that I reached out to our current attorney uh Mr Scott Bennett I think he represents 17 School District
1:02:551 hour, 2 minutes, 55 secondsdistricts in Tennessee and I asked him uh about I asked him to look at our policy so he called me
1:03:021 hour, 3 minutes, 2 secondsback the proposed policy it's not our policy it's a policy that had been uh was tabled in 2023 and his question was
1:03:121 hour, 3 minutes, 12 secondswhy is this going to be a policy because uh what he said was the the schools in which he worked with and had dogs they
1:03:201 hour, 3 minutes, 20 secondshad administrative uh they had administrative guidelines to to uh bage the dogs so he
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondshe said yes he he worked with schools that had dogs but they used administrative guidelines but it it's really no difference the the policy and
1:03:361 hour, 3 minutes, 36 secondsthe guidelines would be yes they would be they would be parallel to each other and and then it has to be an AK a dog
1:03:441 hour, 3 minutes, 44 secondshas been trained by an AKC approved group um the the the biggest the biggest
1:03:511 hour, 3 minutes, 51 secondsquestion for me is who is going to handle the dog well when we were talking last time
1:03:581 hour, 3 minutes, 58 secondsabout the dog right right when I first um I wasn't the director yet I was just getting here uh one of our PE assistants
1:04:071 hour, 4 minutes, 7 secondsat Hickman County Middle School she it was her dog and she was going to bring the dog but thinking through and she's a wonderful lady and I'm sure that her dog
1:04:151 hour, 4 minutes, 15 secondsis a well- behaved dog I trust her I fully TR I fully trust her judgment she's an outstanding employee who by the
1:04:231 hour, 4 minutes, 23 secondsway is on the way to become certified to be a special ed teacher for us in the district she's a wonderful employee but
1:04:301 hour, 4 minutes, 30 secondsat the same time I don't know when she's in that gym with a cert she's in that gym with a certified PE teacher and 50
1:04:371 hour, 4 minutes, 37 secondskids come at them every hour to do Middle School PE I don't know when she would have time to take care of the dog
1:04:461 hour, 4 minutes, 46 secondsand I don't know what the interaction with the dog looks like in most cases in which I read the dog was in in the
1:04:541 hour, 4 minutes, 54 secondscounselor's office the counselor was the person who was the dog handler and because sometimes
1:05:031 hour, 5 minutes, 3 secondschildren uh who are experiencing difficulties like anxiety end up in the counseling office so that is a proper
1:05:111 hour, 5 minutes, 11 secondsplace for the dog to be very effective um Miss Haron and I talked about this uh Miss Haron and I talked
1:05:201 hour, 5 minutes, 20 secondsabout um possibly doing this on some sort of trial basis to see how it works
1:05:271 hour, 5 minutes, 27 secondsand and then and then too I read where one school district did this instead of letting like one of eight schools have a
1:05:361 hour, 5 minutes, 36 secondsdog they had one dog that visited all eight schools on a rotational basis that
1:05:431 hour, 5 minutes, 43 secondsthat one dog impacted the district that way so yeah could the Handler be somebody
1:05:531 hour, 5 minutes, 53 secondsfrom outside the SCH all one one District the but see here's what I haven't said that I need to say the
1:06:011 hour, 6 minutes, 1 secondHandler has to be trained also the dog and the Handler both have to be trained
1:06:081 hour, 6 minutes, 8 secondsI think there might be somebody in the county that maybe is retired or or you
1:06:151 hour, 6 minutes, 15 secondsknow maybe in the Humane Society that you know they take there some sometimes they go to the nursing home and take and
1:06:221 hour, 6 minutes, 22 secondsthat might be like something for them right like kind of their own little side project you know and then if you need if
1:06:291 hour, 6 minutes, 29 secondssomebody needs the dog they could contact that person they they could bring it to the school you know that
1:06:361 hour, 6 minutes, 36 secondskind of thing like somebody outside of so that the dog's not overwork and the person that is handling the dog is not
1:06:451 hour, 6 minutes, 45 secondsdoing another job in the school system that's kind of like their own little niche Niche yeah I like that
1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondssuggestion can it be a bulldog why you ask that why would I it feels
1:07:021 hour, 7 minutes, 2 secondslike that would be a good fit at least for one half hour let let me uh let me respond to Jack's request so I told you
1:07:121 hour, 7 minutes, 12 secondsI I I I've never in my career had a therapy dog I've worked this is a long time as school never had a therapy dog
1:07:201 hour, 7 minutes, 20 secondsdidn't really spend a lot of time with this when I first got here uh to be honest in June of 2023 I was worried about how we're going to get the grass
1:07:281 hour, 7 minutes, 28 secondscut and that that was that was a major concern for me at the time and we've done a great job of getting the grass cut so but uh I had
1:07:381 hour, 7 minutes, 38 secondspreconceived conceptions that this would be a golden retriever because those those that braed of dog is known as a
1:07:471 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondsvery kind docel dog but in the literature that I've read over the last few weeks any any breed of dog
1:07:561 hour, 7 minutes, 56 secondscan be a therapy dog it just has to be a calm dog
1:08:031 hour, 8 minutes, 3 secondsuh not only calm with humans and children but calm with of other animals
1:08:091 hour, 8 minutes, 9 secondsalso it has to be a passive non-aggressive cond so it's not breed specific so you're saying there's a
1:08:181 hour, 8 minutes, 18 secondschance there's a chance I will say this when we was discussing this and we were talking about I did have one family approached me and they had a job scho
1:08:261 hour, 8 minutes, 26 secondsthat that had a fear dog just did had a fear of dog I it something that had happened to him when they were young you
1:08:351 hour, 8 minutes, 35 secondsknow and that's where the dog like I say is calm he's not barking he's uh it's a lot of train I dealt with this
1:08:431 hour, 8 minutes, 43 secondsfor nearly two years after I uh working at Walmart assist store manager people bringing the
1:08:501 hour, 8 minutes, 50 secondsdogs in and and it's a uh it's a it's it's a a lot to it it's a lot
1:08:581 hour, 8 minutes, 58 secondsmore they needed to be trained some of them were trained correctly and now you're a mail man
1:09:191 hour, 9 minutes, 19 secondsyeah I also think that we need to allow Mr and the new school attorney to be
1:09:251 hour, 9 minutes, 25 secondsable to have more input on and Tam to come back and Report some more uh let me say this about
1:09:341 hour, 9 minutes, 34 secondsum I had a thought though we talking about it uh oh some Schools allowed the
1:09:411 hour, 9 minutes, 41 secondsparents to have input and then the do and if there and if there and in in the
1:09:491 hour, 9 minutes, 49 secondsrules if a child has an allergy to dander there is you have to clearly
1:09:561 hour, 9 minutes, 56 secondsidentify where the dog is and where the dog will be at all times that's why the policy wouldn't work for PE because
1:10:041 hour, 10 minutes, 4 secondsevery child goes to PE and then so you're telling a child you have to go to PE and and if a child has an allergy
1:10:121 hour, 10 minutes, 12 secondswhich that is a real thing to the pet dander um so the dog you have to know where the dogs going to be what the
1:10:201 hour, 10 minutes, 20 secondspurpose of the dog is and you can never put the dog in the same room with a child who has an allergy and you
1:10:281 hour, 10 minutes, 28 secondshave to send forms home at the beginning of the school year asking about and what if there's one speaks to that yes it
1:10:361 hour, 10 minutes, 36 secondsdoes what if there's one kid in there and they going to get the kid out of the classroom or you take the dog get the dog out you don't you don't you know you
1:10:441 hour, 10 minutes, 44 secondsnever take the dog where there's a where there is a there is a allergy situation you never take the dog in there so I'll
1:10:511 hour, 10 minutes, 51 secondsmake a motion to uh postpone this policy and Jean because and then that gets more
1:10:591 hour, 10 minutes, 59 secondstime to bring up everything and everybody to get discussion our new director to get information and then we
1:11:071 hour, 11 minutes, 7 secondswill go through it again and have discussions that way the new school board members I mean we don't even know how the election's going to go tomorrow
1:11:141 hour, 11 minutes, 14 secondswe might have another new school board member that she might need to be up today on stff too I I will second that
1:11:221 hour, 11 minutes, 22 secondsjust for discussion Jo we need to really just second and then we have discussion okay how about that I second her motion now is the proper time to discuss it
1:11:311 hour, 11 minutes, 31 secondsonly only qual I have with that is if this becomes a policy our principles will need time to address it in their
1:11:391 hour, 11 minutes, 39 secondshandbooks and those handbooks are June July projects so if if if she would just amend it to say let this decision and
1:11:481 hour, 11 minutes, 48 secondspolicy be finalized by the June meeting that will give us enough time okay that works yeah we I think conceptually this
1:11:581 hour, 11 minutes, 58 secondspolicy is a slam duck this is the easiest policy decision once all the edge cases get worked at and hopefully
1:12:051 hour, 12 minutes, 5 secondsthat all gets worked out by June uh I think this could go down south of the SL got clamed
1:12:131 hour, 12 minutes, 13 secondsup I think we could also contact the five districts who received the grant for this year yes I mean I've done I I
1:12:221 hour, 12 minutes, 22 secondsknow of a district that received that Grant you must there I know well I mean I work in mental health yeah yeah so
1:12:301 hour, 12 minutes, 30 secondsI've done a lot of research on therapy dogs and work with students currently who have therapy dogs in their school
1:12:381 hour, 12 minutes, 38 secondsand I know that there there was a grant for the 24 25 school year that allowed five pilot districts to get therapy dogs
1:12:471 hour, 12 minutes, 47 secondsinto the schools and I think it would be great if we could you know reach out and figure out how that's going because it is expensive I mean the grant was for I
1:12:561 hour, 12 minutes, 56 secondsthink like $110,000 the training the training basic training the training's for $5,000 to get that dog train
1:13:041 hour, 13 minutes, 4 secondspossibly look at hiring somebody an employee and C the what you don't know and and I'll look for those emails again
1:13:111 hour, 13 minutes, 11 secondsI had passed it out the last time um I had contacted several school districts that did have therapy dogs and got their
1:13:191 hour, 13 minutes, 19 secondsinput on it so I can send it up to you and Jane so that you'll have that information also
1:13:281 hour, 13 minutes, 28 secondsand John since he here one of us that go
1:13:351 hour, 13 minutes, 35 secondsmeeting December about what we learned try to get any information about that and if they might want to go and talk to
1:13:421 hour, 13 minutes, 42 secondsthem or once we get if we get this rooll we can actually send to see how they do
1:13:501 hour, 13 minutes, 50 secondsit a lot
1:14:021 hour, 14 minutes, 2 secondsyeah this is a discussion item do we need a motion we don't have a motion second do we need a motion on discussion
1:14:091 hour, 14 minutes, 9 secondsitem it's on here for discussion the motion was and there's a second you have to act Point order you
1:14:151 hour, 14 minutes, 15 secondshave to act on that motion that second but we really don't need a motion no matter me you have a motion
1:14:241 hour, 14 minutes, 24 secondsrobt you got V we can also somebody can resent their motion to can vote against vote against
1:14:331 hour, 14 minutes, 33 secondsit all in favor yeah
1:14:391 hour, 14 minutes, 39 secondsyeah I mean all it is is just sending it to further discussions and and work and
1:14:461 hour, 14 minutes, 46 secondsand more information policy to be finalized by June 2 2025
1:14:581 hour, 14 minutes, 58 secondswe even heard we didn't need a policy also right joh yeah but I mean Poli but administrative guidelines and the
1:15:071 hour, 15 minutes, 7 secondspolicies are going to be the same thing so it this just wasn't said but um you're still working on it until June to finalize what you're going to do so
1:15:151 hour, 15 minutes, 15 secondsthat's which means we will have a pury we will have a first reading of a policy in May mean when everybody's got it
1:15:231 hour, 15 minutes, 23 secondstogether it actually been before that we put it on the agenda to discuss each
1:15:301 hour, 15 minutes, 30 secondsmonth right to be able to get more information
1:15:381 hour, 15 minutes, 38 secondsyeah all right 11a
1:15:461 hour, 15 minutes, 46 secondsannouncement uh our next board meeting is December the 9th 2024
1:15:561 hour, 15 minutes, 56 secondswell need to hear from our legislative Representatives I don't have anything to report uh other than uh there will be
1:16:061 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondssome legislature meetings at the convention and what's coming up you definitely have some report after
1:16:151 hour, 16 minutes, 15 secondsyou come back yeah see what the uh csba is looking at try to see what legislator is going to do we know basically what
1:16:241 hour, 16 minutes, 24 secondsone thing yeah so uh we'll just have see how they're do they're both
1:16:311 hour, 16 minutes, 31 secondscount right now guarantee you yeah that's com yeah so anybody else on legislative side got anything to
1:16:471 hour, 16 minutes, 47 secondssay letters go around and then start with her but first does anybody just
1:16:531 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondswant uh does anybody need a new a copy of the new law book
1:17:021 hour, 17 minutes, 2 secondsokay anybody else we get your
1:17:161 hour, 17 minutes, 16 secondscopy M things at our score that East tman High School is holding their first Regional football game on November the
1:17:241 hour, 17 minutes, 24 seconds8th miss being from their culinary Department received around $6,000 for their sharing participation in the banana pudding Festival many students
1:17:321 hour, 17 minutes, 32 secondshave signed up their dual credit career classes in conjunction with teat home and the sub Fox Derby race added to the
1:17:391 hour, 17 minutes, 39 secondshomecoming activities was a success both High School journalism classes are writing a page per month for publication by Mr Martin at the Hickman County
1:17:481 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondsThomas thank you and then one other thing uh Miss Molton the Tennessee
1:17:551 hour, 17 minutes, 55 secondsuh Department of Highway Safety I don't get anywhere close to the name of that department the state troopers yeah speak
1:18:031 hour, 18 minutes, 3 secondsto that um they want to come next week and do a distractor driving save the life tour and talk our students about the importance of non Rousey driving M
1:18:121 hour, 18 minutes, 12 secondshand driving and just being safe behind the whe show them yeah reach out and ch ch High School uh do that in the
1:18:201 hour, 18 minutes, 20 secondsauditorium bre everybody or something they going to bring their little trainer sitting in a vehicle
1:18:271 hour, 18 minutes, 27 secondsyes Dr C John thank
1:18:381 hour, 18 minutes, 38 secondsyou so I'd like to se back uh so in the discussion uh Mr Hobbs
1:18:461 hour, 18 minutes, 46 secondsmade a great suggestion that I think should be followed up on whenever we can get to it uh specifically the point
1:18:541 hour, 18 minutes, 54 secondsabout like student passes that exist across like sports categories I think you know if we can get the pricing right
1:19:031 hour, 19 minutes, 3 secondson that uh I don't know 50 bucks 60 bucks like just the encouraging people
1:19:111 hour, 19 minutes, 11 secondsto go to games that aren't just basketball and football would be just excellent for both student morale and
1:19:201 hour, 19 minutes, 20 secondsjust general excitement around all of our Sports and not just the they do okay
1:19:281 hour, 19 minutes, 28 secondsonead over the years been even now how many people are making or keeping up a book are they using
1:19:371 hour, 19 minutes, 37 secondsonline mean keeping up a book online online think we're wasting a lot of yeah
1:19:451 hour, 19 minutes, 45 secondscop I agree with that too I see I this is about my 26th meeting and I see this St here and I know and I know it's it's
1:19:531 hour, 19 minutes, 53 secondswhat we always do it well it's been done for years and I know over the years it's got more electronic is it a problem with
1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsyou for not doing I do have to make a copy for the schools they have to have a hard copy on
1:20:091 hour, 20 minutes, 9 secondstop so yeah well that's I mean that's 's there's required be hard copy at the
1:20:161 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondsdown yes sir but that's it takes me a while to get all it together it's a lot of work to keep it up if you take Pages
1:20:241 hour, 20 minutes, 24 secondsout
1:20:401 hour, 20 minutes, 40 secondsI got you all right Mr Hobs here's here's what's happened here quickly and quietly oh yeah ccul we're going to go
1:20:481 hour, 20 minutes, 48 secondsahead and get you a Tennessee education law anotated because everybody's jumped on board but yeah I going get you
1:20:571 hour, 20 minutes, 57 secondsokay you didn't you give yours to him that
1:21:111 hour, 21 minutes, 11 secondsmeans okay uh we're there make a motion that we
1:21:211 hour, 21 minutes, 21 secondsJour this going fast since we e