Solid Waste Committee · Meeting · Nov 2, 2026
Mon, Nov 2, 2026
Guides landfill operations, recycling, convenience centers, and collection policies for household and commercial waste across the county.
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Solid Waste Committee approved a one-time waiver of delinquent solid-waste late fees for a resident who had not received bills after moving from California; members emphasized that staff had verified the address error and that past waiver requests without proof had usually been denied. The committee also chose the lower-cost Barge Design Solutions proposal to begin engineering work for a C&D landfill expansion, with discussion centered on cost, timetable, and the risk of having to close the landfill in about four years if no expansion is pursued.
Other notable threads included year-to-date solid-waste revenues and collections, penalties and exemptions under the new billing system, diversion and cardboard tonnage, staffing strain from a long-serving landfill operator’s COVID-related absence, holiday traffic plans at convenience centers, Perry County tonnage trends, a possible Spring Back Mattress recycling trailer at East, strategy for delinquent-account judgments and liens, and a recommendation to delay the first commercial/industrial solid-waste bill until July 2027 pending legal review.
Call to Order / Roll Call 0:00
- 0:00 Meeting called to order.
- Roll call showed a quorum present.
- Agenda approved by motion and second without noted opposition.
- Public comment opened; the chair noted the only expected speaker was tied to agenda item 6.
- October minutes approved by motion and second without noted opposition.
Public Comments 0:02
Late-fee waiver request from resident 0:02
- 0:02 Staff summarized a resident request to waive late fees on solid-waste bills for the prior 2 years, explaining that the resident had moved from California to Mobley Ridge Road, paid the first year’s bill, but the tax-assessor address remained the prior California address so later bills were mailed there.
- 0:03 The resident said she would have paid had she received the bills, had already corrected the mailing address, and was asking only that late fees be waived because she is retired, raising her granddaughter, and could not absorb avoidable penalties.
- 0:05 Committee members clarified that she was not disputing the underlying bill, only the late fees; staff corrected an earlier estimate and said the waiver would be less than $180, with a cap of $90 per year rather than $180 total.
- 0:06 Discussion focused on whether granting relief here would invite similar requests. Members said staff had done due diligence, similar unsupported requests had usually been denied, and they did not recall anyone receiving a waiver and then returning for another.
- 0:08 Motion made and seconded to waive the late fees.
- 0:09 Vote: motion passed with 1 opposed; late fees waived.
Department / Official Reports 0:10
Solid Waste financial report 0:10
- 0:10 Revenue statement showed the department at 57.5% of budgeted annual revenue.
- 0:10 Expenditures and encumbrances were reported at 31.74% of budget spent so far.
- 0:11 Staff explained the apparent large surplus is seasonal and misleading because most disposal-fee revenue arrives near the start of the fiscal year when annual bills come due by September 30.
- 0:11 Using the new billing software, staff reported $1,290,000 invoiced, $137,252 in penalties applied so far, and $949,007 received in payments as of Friday.
- 0:12 Adjustments were described as exemptions for vacant homes and fixed-income residents where bills were reduced or eliminated.
- 0:12 After excluding penalties from the unresolved balance, staff said 83.42% of accounts had resolved their bills this year.
- 0:13 Motion to approve the financial report carried by roll-call vote.
Tonnage and landfill operations 0:14
- 0:14 Staff said no cardboard was sold during the month because the landfill operator had been out several weeks with serious COVID complications, requiring the solid-waste director to fill in and causing cardboard shipments to be missed.
- 0:15 About 80 tons of cardboard were sitting on the dock; 2 loads sold that morning and 2 more were scheduled that week, so the next report should show a substantial increase.
- 0:15 Diversion remained above the state goal of 25%.
- 0:16 Class I tonnage was down, reducing disposal-fee revenue for the month; staff tied that largely to Perry County’s transition away from using Hickman County.
Holiday operating plan and convenience-center capacity 0:17
- 0:17 Upcoming closures discussed for Veterans Day on November 11, then Thanksgiving and the following day; staff said post-holiday traffic historically becomes severe because multiple days of trash arrive at once.
- 0:18 For the first time, the department plans to place the compactor truck at East and create a third lane with another attendant, and to add another dumpster plus an attendant at Skyview/Centerville for the heavy return day after holiday closures.
- 0:19 Members discussed whether the added Centerville dumpster would be temporary; staff said yes for now, but growing volume at Centerville and deteriorating pavement will require a longer-term capacity solution.
- 0:20 Staff said a normal long-term fix would be a compactor, which can hold about 8 times the waste volume of an equivalent open-top container, but that would require a permanent attendant and raise recurring labor costs.
- 0:21 Another possible future capital project discussed was a wall-based setup allowing a larger container at Centerville, trading upfront capital expense for less ongoing labor.
- 0:22 A member suggested getting pricing on a compactor that loads directly into a tractor-trailer rather than requiring additional handling, especially given East’s traffic backups onto Highway 7.
- 0:23 No formal action taken on the holiday plan or longer-term capacity ideas.
C&D landfill expansion engineering proposal 0:25
- 0:25 Staff presented two engineering proposals for C&D landfill expansion permitting.
- 0:25 Barge Design Solutions proposed a $60,000 lump-sum, not-to-exceed budget covering labor, overhead, and travel.
- 0:26 Smith & Gardner proposed a base budget of $216,340, with an expanded budget of $357,190 if additional drilling or monitoring wells are needed.
- 0:26 Staff said the base scopes were similar through the early permitting phases, but Smith & Gardner included explicit contingency for further drilling while Barge Design Solutions did not.
- 0:27 Staff described Smith & Gardner as the “Cadillac” landfill engineer used by major operators, while noting Barge Design Solutions clearly addressed liability limits, insurance, and document ownership; under the Barge proposal, the county would own the documents, while under Smith & Gardner’s proposal, the engineer would.
- 0:28 Staff said the process begins by notifying TDEC of the county’s intent to expand, obtaining regional-board approval, then determining whether existing work is enough or whether more borings are required.
- 0:29 The policy choice discussed was whether to buy the cheaper/local option or the more expensive, more established landfill-permitting specialist. Staff estimated the landfill has roughly 4 years of remaining capacity.
- 0:30 If no expansion occurs, the county would have to close the landfill when full; staff said the state estimates closure at $1.2 million, though he believed it might be done for “a couple hundred thousand.”
- 0:31 Staff estimated Smith & Gardner would likely produce a permit in about 1.5 years, while Barge Design Solutions might do so in 1.5 to 3 years, depending on state response and whether paperwork draws more scrutiny.
- 0:32 Staff said only $60,000 was budgeted this year for the engineering portion, aside from some survey work, and the project would likely span this fiscal year and the next, possibly longer.
- 0:33 Motion made and seconded to proceed with Barge Design Solutions.
- 0:34 Roll-call vote: approved unanimously.
Perry County waste, mattress recycling idea, and East-side operations 0:35
- 0:35 Staff reported Perry County brought 173 tons that month, down from 323 tons the prior month; some tonnage continues because one city truck in Perry County does not fit its own transfer station.
- 0:36 Staff introduced a possible new mattress-handling program with Spring Back Mattress, described as a Tennessee nonprofit that dismantles mattresses and recycles the foam and springs while employing people recently incarcerated, in recovery, or homeless.
- 0:37 The concept was to place a trailer at East so residents there could dispose of mattresses without driving to Centerville.
- 0:37 Proposed charge was $25 per mattress; the nonprofit would provide the trailer, card reader, and attendant training. The service would be optional, not mandatory.
- 0:38 Budget impact discussed as a potential loss of some landfill revenue because mattresses otherwise brought to the landfill might generate roughly $5 each in disposal revenue; staff said a $30 fee could preserve that amount if the committee wanted.
- 0:39 Members questioned whether residents would pay $25–$30, where a trailer could physically fit at East, and whether the model should be tested temporarily first.
- 0:40 Staff said keeping mattresses out of the landfill has operational value because they are difficult to compact and spread, turning into tangled masses of springs and foam.
- 0:41 No action taken; staff will look at site logistics and bring the matter back.
Delinquent accounts, judgments, and collection strategy 0:42
- 0:42 Staff said the county has obtained several dozen judgments on delinquent solid-waste fees over $2,000.
- 0:43 Options presented were: record judgment liens only; garnish wages; or levy bank accounts. The latter two would require additional legal work and cost.
- 0:44 Staff showed aging trends and argued the passive lien system works over time: by about 10 years, the county has collected about 99% of what was originally billed, mostly through property sales and refinances.
- 0:45 Members discussed that liens do not prevent a sale but are paid during closing or refinancing, and that the “residential collection” budget line largely reflects payments on old debt.
- 0:46 Staff said about $78,000 in old debt had already been collected this year.
- 0:47 Residual bad debt remains even on very old accounts; staff said debt from 1996 to 2006 totals about $17,000, illustrating that some remainder persists.
- 0:48 Members asked whether stronger action should occur once debts age further; staff replied that last year the county took balances above $2,000 to court and now must decide whether to stop at recording the judgment or pursue garnishment/levy case by case.
- 0:49 Committee sentiment favored preserving staff flexibility while continuing to use liens as the default collection tool; staff said he would bring back a budget amendment to cover recording the judgments.
- 0:50 No final motion on garnishment or levies at this meeting.
Commercial / industrial solid-waste billing timeline 0:51
- 0:51 Staff said commercial and industrial bills were planned to go out in January, though the original preference had been July alongside the annual solid-waste bill; missing or disorganized data had delayed implementation.
- 0:52 Questions raised included when the bill should be due, what happens if a business does not pay, and whether the county would then bill again in July 2027 or wait until January 2028.
- 0:53 Staff said January billing would likely require another resolution spelling out the timeframe, while waiting until July 2027 would align with the residential billing cycle and avoid confusion over paying twice within a short period.
- 0:54 Staff also said current pressure on capital equipment needs had been eased somewhat by Perry County tonnage and by the Sheriff providing equipment, reducing the urgency that had originally driven the commercial/industrial fee.
- 0:55 One member flagged address-quality problems in the draft business list, citing “Bee’s Closet” as being assigned to the wrong district, and urged staff to verify addresses before any bills are sent.
- 0:56 Members discussed the financial tradeoff of delaying the billing, estimating about $80,000 in foregone revenue offset by around $15,000 from Perry County, for an approximate $65,000 impact.
- 0:57 Motion made and seconded to recommend delaying the first commercial/industrial solid-waste bill until July 2027, contingent on review by the county attorney and any needed action by the full county commission to amend the prior resolution.
- 0:58 Roll-call vote: approved unanimously as a committee recommendation.
Unfinished Business 0:59
- No separate unfinished business items were developed beyond the billing-timeline discussion already taken up in reports.
New Business / Agenda Items 1:00
Food trucks and possible fee / licensing revenue 1:00
- 1:00 A member raised food trucks as a possible revenue topic after receiving a $30 solid-waste-related invoice in Lewis County.
- 1:01 Discussion suggested Hickman County may be behind other communities in charging food trucks business-related fees and that recurring mobile vendors could represent a modest revenue stream for solid waste or other county funds.
- 1:02 Members said the issue might also intersect with events such as the Banana Pudding Festival and noted estimates of roughly 5 to 10 trucks moving through the county.
- 1:03 No action taken; members agreed to research how other counties handle food-truck fees and return to the topic later.
Adjournment 1:04
- Motion and second to adjourn; meeting adjourned without noted objection.
Key figures and statistics
| Figure | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 years | Time period | Years for which resident requested late-fee waiver due to wrong mailing address | 0:02 |
| $180 | Penalty cap estimate | Initial figure mentioned for possible waived late fees before correction | 0:05 |
| $90 | Penalty cap | Per-year late-fee cap discussed for waiver calculation | 0:05 |
| $1 per day | Rate | Late-fee accrual rate discussed during waiver item | 0:05 |
| 1 opposed | Vote | Vote on waiving resident late fees | 0:09 |
| 57.5% | Percentage | Revenue received versus annual budget | 0:10 |
| 31.74% | Percentage | Expenditures and encumbrances versus annual budget | 0:10 |
| September 30 | Date | Annual solid-waste bill due date that drives seasonal revenue timing | 0:11 |
| $1,290,000 | Revenue / billing | Invoices sent under new billing software | 0:11 |
| $137,252 | Penalties | Penalties applied so far on billed accounts | 0:11 |
| $949,007 | Collections | Payments received as of Friday | 0:11 |
| 83.42% | Percentage | Share of billed accounts resolved after excluding penalties | 0:12 |
| 80 tons | Tonnage | Cardboard on dock awaiting sale | 0:15 |
| 2 loads | Count | Cardboard loads sold that morning | 0:15 |
| 2 more | Count | Additional cardboard loads scheduled that week | 0:15 |
| 25% | Percentage | State diversion goal | 0:15 |
| November 11 | Date | Veterans Day holiday closure discussed | 0:17 |
| third lane | Capacity change | Planned temporary traffic-management addition at East after holidays | 0:18 |
| 8 times | Capacity ratio | Approximate compactor advantage over open-top box | 0:20 |
| $60,000 | Contract amount | Barge Design Solutions landfill-engineering proposal | 0:25 |
| $216,340 | Contract amount | Base Smith & Gardner landfill-engineering proposal | 0:26 |
| $357,190 | Contract amount | Expanded Smith & Gardner contingency proposal | 0:26 |
| 4 years | Time period | Estimated remaining landfill capacity without expansion | 0:29 |
| $1.2 million | Cost estimate | State-estimated landfill closure cost | 0:30 |
| 1.5 years | Time period | Expected permit timeline with Smith & Gardner | 0:31 |
| 1.5 to 3 years | Time period | Estimated permit timeline with Barge Design Solutions | 0:31 |
| 173 tons | Tonnage | Perry County waste received this month | 0:35 |
| 323 tons | Tonnage | Perry County waste received last month | 0:35 |
| $25 | Fee proposal | Proposed mattress drop-off fee at East | 0:37 |
| $5 | Revenue estimate | Approximate landfill revenue per mattress that could be displaced | 0:38 |
| $30 | Fee option | Alternate mattress fee that could preserve lost landfill revenue | 0:38 |
| $2,000 | Threshold | Delinquent accounts above this amount taken to court / discussed for stronger collection | 0:42 |
| 10 years | Time period | Horizon over which passive liens reportedly collect most billed amounts | 0:44 |
| 99% | Percentage | Approximate collection rate after 10 years using lien-based approach | 0:44 |
| $78,000 | Collections | Old debt collected so far this year | 0:46 |
| 1996 to 2006 | Time period | Age range of very old residual debt discussed | 0:47 |
| $17,000 | Debt balance | Very old residual debt from 1996–2006 | 0:47 |
| January | Date | Initially planned mailing month for commercial / industrial bills | 0:51 |
| July 2027 | Date | Recommended new start date for first commercial / industrial bill | 0:53 |
| January 2028 | Date | Alternative later billing cycle mentioned in discussion | 0:52 |
| $80,000 | Revenue impact | Approximate revenue at stake in delaying commercial / industrial billing | 0:56 |
| $15,000 | Revenue offset | Approximate Perry County offset mentioned in delay discussion | 0:56 |
| $65,000 | Net impact | Approximate net effect after offset if billing is delayed | 0:56 |
| $110 | Fee level | Annual rate committee said had been preserved with earlier resolution | 0:58 |
| $120 | Fee level | Higher annual rate avoided under prior resolution | 0:58 |
| $30 | Fee / invoice | Lewis County invoice for food-truck-related solid-waste charge | 1:00 |
| 5 to 10 | Count estimate | Rough estimate of food trucks coming in and out of the county | 1:02 |
External vendors, brands, and software
| Name | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|
| Barge Design Solutions | Company | Selected engineering firm for C&D landfill expansion permitting proposal | 0:25 |
| Smith & Gardner | Company | Alternative landfill-engineering proposal discussed as higher-cost specialist option | 0:26 |
| TDEC | Company | State agency referenced in landfill expansion permitting process | 0:28 |
| Waste Management | Company | Mentioned in discussion of compactor pricing and major landfill-engineering clients | 0:27 |
| Republic | Company | Mentioned as a major operator using Smith & Gardner | 0:27 |
| Spring Back Mattress | Company | Proposed nonprofit mattress-recycling partner for East convenience center | 0:36 |
Laws and policies
| Citation / name | Level | Type | Context / topic | Timestamp |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| state diversion goal | State | Policy | Staff said diversion remained above the state target of 25% | 0:15 |
| judgment lien | County | Policy | Default collection mechanism discussed for delinquent solid-waste accounts after court judgments | 0:43 |
| commercial / industrial solid-waste resolution | County | Resolution | Prior resolution may need amendment if the first business billing is delayed to July 2027 | 0:53 |
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Block them off. Yes, thank you. Hi, I'm Bob. I'm going to call the meeting to order. Thank you. Jordan will do the roll call. I will call the meeting. Shirley Perinato. Here. Nick Bentley. Here. Tony Ester. Here. Steve Canopter. Here. Mr. Jordan. Here. Devin Baker. Here. Steve Anglin. Here. Thank you, guys. I think we got a 20-mile banquet. I'd like to say. Yeah. Yeah. 97 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all have an agenda? Right. E-mail me, or a portion of the group. E-mail. Ah, I'm sorry. Well, uh, anybody got anything to say? Accept the motion to approve the agenda? So moved. Second. Motion to get a second. Tony? Motion second. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, now it's time for public comment. Is anybody, we didn't have a sign-up sheet. Is anybody here to speak to the public comment section? I know we've got one on the agenda, number six. So back to you. Yeah, I think probably. So we'll do that at that point. All right, I had a chance to look at your minutes from October. Motion to approve. Motion to approve by Mr. Gianakis. Second by Mr. Pickering. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, those are approved. All right, we've got number six is Ms. Powell. And you want to, Jordan, you want to kind of sum it up. I mean, you've got it in there, but that's why it happened. Yeah, so I believe Ms. Powell moved from California into her, to Mobley Ridge Road. She forwarded her mail. She got the first year's always bill and paid it. But the address on the tax assessor stayed California, and so for two years the bill went to California. We put out some signs this year at the convenience centers. She saw those and called in and has requested that since she didn't receive the bill for the last two years that she be, that the late fees for those two years be waived. And if anything, she's corrected her mail address. Powell, would you like to address the committee? You're fine. I hear you. I would have paid it if I got the bills. I always pay my bills. You can check because I don't like late fees. I don't have extra money. And I don't know who put on the deed to send the taxes and whatever. They wrote it and wrote my old address that I moved from. And I should have looked at it, I guess, but, I mean, you know how much paperwork you get during all that stuff. So I didn't notice it until I called in here after I saw the thing through September 3rd. They called out the second, or the first, second. And I'm like, I never got my bill. And she said, well, we've been sending it to this address. I haven't lived there in three years. I've been here for three years. So, like I said, I got the first bill because my mail was forwarded for one year and I paid it. And then, I don't know, I just didn't, I don't even know why I didn't even think about last year. I just, you know, it's one of those once a time, once a year bill. And then when I saw it, I'm like, why am I not getting my bill? Why am I, I must be going to get it. And I just thought, I better call. Did you own the property prior to you moving here? Did I own it? Uh-huh. No. Okay. I thought maybe that was confusion in the court. No, no, it was my stepmom's house. But I don't know, I don't know why they put that address on the deed because it never should have been there. I left there and that was that. And I wouldn't have noticed it because my tax is, I have a mortgage. So, it goes, it's all embedded together. So, I didn't see it there. But it's changed now. I called the assessor's office and it's changed. Okay. And I don't want this to happen again because it's really been stressing me out because I don't like late fees. I just, like I said, I feel like that's throwing money away. I don't have extra. Anybody else got any questions for Ms. Vowell? You said you paid it the first year? Yeah, because it was forwarded. My mail from California, I had forwarded for, they only forwarded it for one year. So, it must have went there and then came here. So, I got the first one. And then after that, they didn't forward my mail anymore. And she told me she did get one back. And then I'm at the office. And then they sent another one out and they didn't get that back. And so, I don't know. I was just confused. Like, I never knew that was the address on there. So, you're paying the fees, the regular fees. You just want to waive the late fees. Is that it? No, I want to pay my bill. No, I'm not saying I want to pay my bill. I, of course, want to pay my bill. I mean, I want to, but I, of course, want to pay my bill. But I don't want to pay the late fees because, first of all, they're a lot. And, like I said, I'm retired. I'm raising my granddaughter. And I'm just, I don't, I want a budget. Anybody else? I'd like a motion to approve. I'd like a motion to approve the labor of the late fee. Commissioner Estry. Estry. I got it wrong. It's not, it's not 180. It would be 90 for each year. But we're, so it's going to be less than $180 is what we're waiving. I don't know the exact number. That's right. Because it's what, like $30? Yeah. It's high on the first day. And then it goes up so much per day or something like that. It's a dollar a day until it's kept out at 180, yeah. So, what are we talking about? We're just waiving them on. The motion is to waive the late fees, right? It is, yes. That's what's on right now. I got a motion and we have a second. Darren, you're nodding your head. I agree, yes. Ms. Farren, I'm sorry. Okay, yeah. Any discussion on the motion? I'm sorry, go ahead. All right. Are we going to get ourself into something to where other people start coming in and say they don't get theirs? We're going to start waiving them off? We have already had that. But Jordan and folks there did their due diligence and found out what had happened. And, you know, some states, they only change the address for what she said, one year. My father-in-law's been dead for several years and I still get mail in my house from him, for him, rather. So, I think we have sought a way to justify, has seen that this is legitimate. The ones we've had in the past, we have pretty much denied most of them because they had no proof like about this. Yes. And she's still paying the fee. She's just not paying the money she has to that. I'll chime in a little bit. We've never had someone ask for a waiver and come back and ask for another one. Right. That I can think of. And you keep track of all that, too, I'm sure, right? Yeah. Like, if we, yeah, someone wants to get on the agenda, we'll check. Good. Yeah. And she's proactive. She's trying to fix it. So, I think that's a lot. Definitely. Yes, and I do agree with you on that. I just don't want us to back ourselves into a corner because you start having to come out of the woodwork. I think we've, the four years I've been, we've taken on a case-by-case deal, and as he said, Jordan's done some investigation. Obviously, she's wanting to do the right thing. And she is. Normally, Jordan does the investigation before it ever comes to us. Which is exactly right. And we have a period occasionally where we can, where people, if they catch their stuff up, then we waive late fees, too, right? That's been done in the past. We have done this. Oh, I see. Got you. That's trying to collect for somebody who's years and years old. Yeah. Better get something done. Sure. You don't want to roll call or what's wrong? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. One opposed. Motion passes, and late fees are waived, and welcome to Hickman County. I love it here. Up in Duck River. It's a little different from Orange County. But I love it. I was ready. A lot different. That's why I'm bringing my granddaughter here instead. Good place to raise kids. Yeah, and she goes to Centerville here, so, yeah, it's definitely, definitely better. I don't like that anything goes in California. So, okay, can I go? Yes, you can. Okay, thank you. So, am I going tomorrow and paying the bill? Yeah. She'll know. She was very nice, this one, you know, in the billing office. Yeah. Jordan's very nice, too. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate it. You don't know how much. All right, Jordan, you're up. All right, this first report is from the finance office, and it goes over the statement of our revenues, or of our revenues. It shows that at the very end, we're at 57.5% of what we budgeted for the year. The next report is for the statement of expenditures and encumbrances. And we spent 31.74% of our budget so far. And they added a new figure. I like things in graphic form. So this third page is like a graphic breakdown of our budget. So on the left side, it's our revenue, broken down by disposal fee, commercial collection, residential collection, which is residential collection is old, it's dead, people paying on prior year's bills, and so it recycles. And then the right side is our expenses for what we spent. And what you'll see is that we've got a large surplus so far this year. And that's from, you know, all of our disposal fee money comes in at the beginning of the fiscal year. So the bills due September 30th, most of our money comes in then. And so that huge surplus might mislead you all a little bit, but that's got to be kind of played out the rest of the year. So you'll see that surplus shrink throughout the rest of the year. And then the page behind that is a new report from our new billing software that we had to take, that we had to switch over to. And it shows our kind of position right now. So we've sent out $1,290,000 in invoices. Right now there's $137,252 in penalties that have been applied, and that will continue to increase until next month sometime. And then the adjustments, those are our exemptions. So those are vacant homes and people on fixed income where we reduced the bill or eliminated it. And then we have payments. So the $949,007 figure there is what we've received in payments. That's Friday. And so that shows our bottom line down there is penalties and fees that haven't been collected yet. So when you take the penalties out of that figure and then divide it by how much we've billed out, currently 83.42% of people have resolved their bills this year. Any questions regarding the financials? Anybody? I have a motion to approve the financial report. Second. I have a motion to leave. And second by Steve. I don't know how current the next is from his reports on times and all that, but for those of you that are new, earlier in the month, the first Monday is the harder it is for him to give us accurate numbers because he doesn't have all his stuff in, and so today is what, the second. So usually if it falls a week or more, a week or six or seven days, five or six days, that would be five or six. His reports are more accurate, so those of you that are new, if he has any, he tells us that it is not accurate and that, slap Tony, he'll back up. Oh, sorry. You can't hear me very well because my throat's sore, and of course I don't talk quite anyway. But anyway, I'm sorry, Tony. No, you're fine. But we just want to make that statement, and Jordan can clarify anything that is not exactly correct. Yeah. When the meeting falls on the first workday of the month like this one, I don't have hardly any time to look into the financial and be able to really explain. So I might have less to say about the financial reports on the first workday of the month. But on our tonnage report, we didn't sell any. We didn't sell any cardboard this month. We have 80 tons of cardboard on our dock, and there's a good market right now, and there's a good market this month too, like in November. But we have an operator. The operator for our landfill has been, he got COVID, and he's the second longest serving county employee, I'm aware of it, in Ronald Coates. He's been here about 35, 36 years. But he's been out for several weeks from bad complications with COVID. So anyway, long story short, I've been filling in at the landfill for him, and I just dropped a ball on calling him to cardboard loads. But we sold two loads this morning, and I have two more scheduled this week. So next November's report is going to look really good. So you're rectifying your dropping ball. Yes, yeah, yeah. So our diversion is still above 25%, which is what the state aims for. Our tonnage, our class one tonnage is down because that's a real number. That's because Perry County has transitioned out, which I'll talk about more here in a minute. But, yeah, I mean, the next report is going to have, like, 140, 160 tons of cardboard on it, because we have 80 tons sitting on the dock. Did you want to do a roll call on financials? Oh, yes, yes, yes. Thank you, Steve. Do a roll call on financials. Shelly Perinato? Yes. Nick Bentley? Yes. Tony Essary? Yes. Steve Janofsky? Yes. Devin Pickard? Yes. Steve Anglin? Yes. Vicki Bates? So a big takeaway from the tonnage report is that class one tonnage is down, which means our disposal fee is going to be down for that month, too.
and our revenue, so. All right, the next, I'm going to do the report now. The next holiday is Veterans Day, November 11th on Wednesday. And then after that, we have Thanksgiving and the day after. So Thanksgiving and Christmas are like two days that we always have crazy traffic on the day after. So for the first time, we're gonna take, we're coming up with a plan and we're gonna put our compactor truck at east and have a third lane and another attendant. And then at Skyview, we're gonna add another dumpster and have an attendant out at Skyview, because usually we don't have that attendant in Centerville, so. I think we'll be, I think that plan will be making everything move a lot smoother, because if we shut down two days, that just means the day we come back, we have three days' worth of trash all in one, so. It can be pretty hectic. Is that dumpster gonna be there permanently or just temporarily? Just for that day, yeah, it'll be at Centerville. Although, you know, Centerville's growing, increasing tonnage, at some point, we've gotta come up with a solution with increased capacity at Centerville. And the pavement is also in bad shape at Centerville. We get, it's a tricky thing, because the normal solution is to put a compactor there, because you take, a compactor can fit eight times the amount of waste in the equivalent open-top box. But if we put in a compactor at Centerville, that means we have to have an attendant at Centerville, which increases our part-time labor line. And so, I think a solution might be something along the lines of, you see these walls, where they put a larger, we have a 20-yard box, so you can kind of reach over it. But if that box was at the base of a wall, that was, you know, we could kind of, you could use a bigger box. So that's a little bit of a capital project that might be something we do in the future. Like, I might propose it in the future, but. Yeah, that's, you know, and that's gonna be a big capital expense, where an attendant would be increasing the operational cost. So, I don't, I'm still thinking that one through, so. Anyway, yeah, we're gonna increase capacity at Centerville and East for the holidays. Can I say something on that, Jordan? Yes. They make a compactor where you can compact it right straight into a tractor and trailer. Yeah. We was trying to get that done 20-something years ago. Yeah. That's what we had lined up for going to East. Yeah. Might think about get a price on that, because if you're gonna put it in a compactor, put it on in a trailer, where you don't have to handle it no more. Yeah. That's been 20-something years ago since I checked on that, so I don't know what the price is now. Yeah, I got a price for Centerville. There's a lot, from waste management, but I don't know if you know. Well, you'll have to get away from waste management. Yeah. Attendant. East is where it's pretty bad, because if it gets backed up, it ends up on Highway 7. I witnessed that. Yeah, it can be, yeah, it can be really dangerous, so I appreciate you doing that. Yeah. Got to. Well, I mean, we'll have two, we'll have three, you know, roll-off compactors, and then a third, that garbage, that rear-load garbage truck, and so, I mean, dude, that's three lanes. Yeah, usually we'll get it pretty quick, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so, oh, the next meeting will be on Monday, Monday, November 2nd, I think. In December. Sometimes we don't meet in December, right? Sometimes we don't. Most of the time, we don't have meetings in December, but we can, and I'm willing to do this. December 2nd. Yeah. So, if we were to have a solid waste meeting in December, it would be on the 7th. For Christmas, you'd be closed. The 24th and 24th? Yeah, it's a policy book. So, the 25th, so you'd be open the 26th, which is a Saturday, I think, so it's just like Thanksgiving, I don't know. Yeah. So, that's kind of a worst case scenario, is being shut down to Thursday, Friday, and then opening on Saturday. It's gonna be, yeah. It's Saturday, easy to begin with. I think last year, no, I guess that was maybe when we were doing some work, and you had the truck sitting up on that one road. Yeah. And it worked out, you had some folks going up there, and it was easy. Now, we'd use that truck, before we had a compactor for cardboard, we had to have that truck for at least cardboard, because it would be like three or four loads in a day after Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so, the second thing I wanted to talk about is hiring an engineer for our C&D landfill. And so, I got, we have two engineers that have submitted proposals, and they have very similar scopes, but there's some differences. So, Barge has proposed a $60,000 lump sum not-to-exceed budget that covers all labor, overhead, travel. And then Smith & Gardner has proposed a base budget of $216,340. And then, in the event that we need to do additional drilling or monitoring, they have a expanded budget of $357,190. And so, the difference, like the $60,000 lump sum and the base are the same scope of work. I mean, we're getting to part one, part two, part 2B. It's the same scope of work. The difference is in Barge did not propose an expanded budget that covers a contingency of if we have to do additional drilling and installation of monitoring wells. And I will say, Smith & Gardner is like the Cadillac of landfill engineers. That's who WM and Republic use. So, also, Barge spells out their limitation of liability and their insurance, and, you know, who owns the documents. So, with Barge, we own the documents. With Smith & Gardner, they own it. So, what would happen is we hire an engineer, they get started, and step one is letting the state know that we intend to expand our landfill. That's part one, and there's steps to do that. We have to get the regional board, which is y'all, to approve it, approve the expansion. And then, after that, they review all the work that's been done for this area and determine whether or not they can bring that to TDEC or they need to drill additional borings. And if they have to drill additional borings, that's where you have a big cost there. So, do you want the local, cheap, or not, I mean, local, cheap engineer or do you want the, like, Cadillac, you know, national level, you know, very thorough engineer? So, that's kind of where, like, we have to pick, if we don't get an expansion for our permit, or expansion for our landfill, you know, if we decide not to do anything, in four years, the landfill fills up, we have to pay to close it. You know, that costs a lot of money. The state says it costs 1.2 million. I think we could close it for a couple hundred thousand. Or, we can continue to expand the landfill and not have to pay to close it, and also continue to not have to pay for that waste to go out of county. And so, the intent of this, hiring this engineer, is to get that permit for the landfill. How much do we have in the budget? 60,000. 60,000. I'll spend some on surveying. Yeah, yeah. But this is a, this project will stretch, if we're lucky, over this fiscal year and the next one. If we're unlucky, it could be three or four, you know. Significant value by going with Gardner versus Barge? I think that if we go with Smith and Gardner, we'll have a landfill permit in a year and a half. And I think if we go with Barge, it might be a year and a half, or it might be three years. I think that's the fundamental difference, is that the state may, the state's not going to really have too much to say about Smith and Gardner's paperwork, but where they might about Barge. So, it's more of a time frame. And so, the way, when I was talking to Barge, I was like, well, you need to do a lump sum, you know. That's so, we have a lump sum proposal with two rounds of TDEC comments in response to it, so. So, you say, you think we're four years away from being at capacity? Yeah. And you think that the max on the Barge permit benefit will be three? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, anybody got any questions or comments of your own? I'm not commotion that we deal with the Barge design solution. I'm motion by Commissioner Picker, seconded by Commissioner Giannakis to deal with the Barge design solution. Any discussion on that? Is there a roll call on that, Jordan? Sheldon Perinato? Yes. Nick Bentley? Yes. Tony Essary? Yes. Steve Giannakis? Yes. Dustin Jordan? Yes. Devin Picker? Yes. Steve Anglin? Yes. We're in a motion pass it. We won't proceed with that, Jordan. What's that? We can't proceed with that with anything else. We're going to sit here for a while. We'll move out. I'll call on you tomorrow. Okay, Perry County brought in 173 tons this month. Last month, they brought in 323 tons. And they're having an issue with their rear, the city of, I don't know if it's Linden or Louisville, but one of their trucks does not fit into Perry County's transfer station. And so that's why we're still getting waste. Anyway, this is something that I haven't, it's a new, I'm proposing a new program to deal with mattresses. So Springback Mattresses is a Tennessee non-profit. And they tear apart mattresses using guys that have been incarcerated recently or are getting off drugs or are homeless. And sell that, sell that, recycle the mattresses. That's what they do. They tear down mattresses and sell the foam and the springs. And they want to set up a trailer at our east side as an option for people on the east side to get rid of their mattresses without going to Centerville. And they would charge $25 per mattress. They would pay for the card reader, for the trailer, and they would train the attendant on how to take card payments. And it would not be mandatory. It's just an alternate to driving to Centerville. So the impact to our budget would be like a loss of revenue at the landfill, like a little bit of loss of revenue at the landfill. A little bit, but probably wasn't a little bit. You know, if you assume at Eastside there's 5,000 people and you replace your mattress every five years, that would be 5,000 mattresses. A mattress is, that'd be 1,000 mattresses. And a mattress probably costs $5 at the landfill. So you're talking about a loss of $5,000 every year. And we could, if you wanted to, you could make it 30 and then keep the $5 that you're losing in revenue. I've, I really haven't, I've known about this for like several years. I haven't brought it up because to me, like who would pay $25 for a mattress? And then I, like I told you, I've been running the landfill for the past month and anything we can do to keep mattresses out of the landfill is, they're a nightmare in the land, like you'll get a big load and you'll crush it up to a really nice consistency that you can spread with a, and then a mattress's involvement is just this nasty wad of springs and foam and it's just a nightmare. So anyway, these guys called and told them I'd bring it up to y'all. Do we take them in Centerville? We're not using this at all in Centerville, right? No. Would we use it in Centerville as well then if? We could. Or are they just taking them in at East, I guess it was? This would just be for East. And my intent with doing it just at East is to like, the convenience factor out there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you're saying the people is gonna pay the $25? I mean, I don't know if they would or not, but they'd have the option to. It's not a mandatory. If they felt strongly about recycling or they felt strongly about driving to Centerville, two types of people would do it. It's the type that wanna recycle it and the type that don't wanna drive to Centerville. So where I was going with that, you wouldn't lose revenue then? Well, you gotta think that that mattress would go to the landfill where we'd have a small margin on it. Okay, so this revenue is going to those people that are recycling? Yes, yes. Okay. Unless you add the $5 to the $30. Yeah, which, yeah. Yeah, I think if somebody would pay $25, they'd pay $30. That's what I was saying. If we do it, you do the $30, that's my opinion. I just tried to figure out where to put that trailer and stuff. You've already got a little space that you take out for one trailer, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's not a whole lot. Especially when it's busy over there. Yeah. It has to be close to the tender so we can fly some cars in the car and be able to do that. They're gonna man it? No. Oh, it'd be all right, yeah. Our tender would take both, yeah. But this would not open us up to audit because we're not handling, we would not handle cash or checks. It would be strictly cars. And it would greatly reduce the amount of trash in our landfill. Yes, yeah. Maybe I figured out where we're gonna put this. Take some measurements and bring it back to y'all. It's a full tractor trailer, it's not like a, is it a pup truck or is it a? I think they're intended as a full tractor trailer and maybe we will get different options other than that. A shipping container or something along those lines. This is something that Williamson County, Rutherford and Nashville do. Which I'm not saying we should. I don't know who sells them or exchange them out every five years. I think I've been sleeping on the same one for 15 years. Yeah. My wife keeps telling me I wouldn't wait to eat one but they're too expensive so. And you don't get them while we're there. Exactly, I don't think. Roll over and you're fine. Exactly. I think the people that recommend every five years, people in manufacturing magic. Yes, you're right. All right. And you'll kind of bring that back to us? Yeah, I'll bring that back to you. But we could do like a day, maybe we want a temporary set up or something like that. Just have them like bring it out there for like a day and announce it. Yeah. I think on President's Day, it's a mattress, President's Day mattress. Yeah. You know, some mattress stores sponsor it and you can get a coupon. Oh, we got several dozen judgments on delinquent.
These fees are more than $2,000 and we've got a few options. The first one is what I call the passive option, which is just record the judgments, like record the judgment lien, which is the lowest cost option too. And then after that, you can garnish the wages, which requires some legal work. And then levy bank accounts, which also requires legal work. And before y'all think about it, I just wanted to show you this graph. This is our debt. This is our, so on the left, on the right side, on 2025, that's 20. So I'm going to go from right to left. So number one right there is 25s, fiscal year 25s, old money, or debt from, that's debt from fiscal year 25, it's $120,000. This is an old report, this is just an example. And then fiscal year 24, which would be 20, and then fiscal year 24, which would be two years old, would be like 100,000. Anyway, as you go down, once debt is 10 years old, it's about, if you go back to our debt that's 10 years old, we've collected most of it, just passively, no legal action or anything like that. When you do the math, we passively collect, after 10 years, 99% of what we billed out has been collected, yeah. So I just want y'all to know the lien system, it works well on a 10-year console. Like you can't do anything with a residence either, like sell it or anything like that, you put a lien on it, right? That's got to be paid for. The way it works is, when you sell your house, you collect your liens. If someone sells their house, it's not that they can't sell their house, it's that during the sale, the liens get paid. That's what I'm saying, yeah. If they sell it, that lien has to be. And then when they refinance, like say you need a new roof, you refinance your house, the liens get paid. Every three or four times a week, we get. Somebody, yeah. And you know, that's what that budget line, residential, it's kind of confusing the way it's labeled, but the residential waste collection charge is payment on old debt. And you know, so far this year, we've collected $78,000. In old debt. Yeah. And so, after 10 years, we get most of it. And so, you know, now we'll say once the, you know, I said it's $10,000 is what, after 10 years is kind of what we have. The bills with penalties on them are not 10 years old yet. So the penalty started in 27, so that'll go from 10,000 to 20,000. But I just want to advocate for the lien system. That's your preference? Is the lien? Oh, of these options? Well, I think for the people that can't pay it, that don't pay it because they can't pay it, that's the option. We're putting together a list of you know, we have information about people, like, and there's certain people that are paying out principal. Yeah. You know, I think that we'll probably see what we can do on those, like. But yeah, my default is to just record, just record the judgments and declare victory. Because I mean, we got a lot of money that came in doing all that last year. Because the lien's what we're already, we're budgeted to do that, we've already like, that's kind of the path we've been doing. What you're saying is, is within 10 years, we're getting that money. I mean, and it goes down, I mean, it drastically goes down, you know, one to four. I mean, you're cutting it in half. Yeah. I mean, the number's always gonna be huge. Like, it's always gonna be like $700,000, yeah, in debt. And you know, it's gonna increase every year. So, you know, every year it's gonna increase $20,000 from where it was the year before. And, I mean, it's not perfect, but I mean, you're always gonna have people not pay. I mean, people don't pay their property taxes. But they will get paid. Yeah. Do we have a timeline that, on that 10 years, that we go do something different? What'd you say? At the 10 year mark, do we have anything that we can do different to go after then? Any stronger? Well, yeah, what we did this past, this past year was anything above $2,000. We took them to court, essentially. And we got judgments for them, and our options are recorded the judgment as a lien on the property, which covers our court costs and legal fees. Garnish their wages, or maybe their bank account. And so, I don't know, maybe. Those are gonna be some of your principal people that are not paying attention to the principal. And I think that's getting some of their attention as well. Yes, yes. That's what it needs to be. Yeah, it needs, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. The 10 years, I don't want it to get to where it goes out to 15 and 20. You just keep getting deeper and deeper in debt. We done been down that road before. Oh, we have debt from 96. Yeah, I mean, the debt from 96 to 2006 is like $17,000. Yeah, I mean, there's always residual debt. I mean, it's just, what part of our budget do we want to spend recovering that 1%? Yeah, it's gonna be like 1% in 10 years. That's why I was thinking this. You live in somebody's wages, you garnish somebody's wages, what are you gonna get? If they don't have wages, you know, you're always taking that. But like I said, you get the ability to know these people on a regular basis, so you probably know more about them than we do. Are you making a motion on this, or on what? If we choose to do something other than just record the liens, we need a motion. Because I think even recording the liens will require a small budget. I'm more favoring you being able to have the flexibility to do what you need to do given the situation. Not all situations fit the same threshold. I think you need to have that flexibility to do what you need to do to get the job done. So, I mean, however we need to do that, that's what I'm a fan of. All right, I will... I'll bring y'all a budget amendment to record the judgments. Yeah. That's it. All right. All right. All right. So I've gotten, we're sending the commercial industrial bill in January. And... You know, it's not ideal that we're sending it in January. We really wanted to send it in July, but we didn't have the data to do it. It wasn't organized. And so it was like, well, we'll send it in January. And the question is, when is the bill due? And then I've got, someone's asked, what happens if I don't pay the bill? I think that's the lien. System. And then, are we going to send another bill in July of 27 or January of 28? And when they asked me that, I was like, it would be very convenient if we sent it out in July of 27. That way it's with the annual solid waste bill. And then they responded, well, I'll pay it once and then I'll turn around and pay it again. So... I'll bring it to y'all to see if you want to... If we, I think, this is the problem. I think if we do it in January, we're going to have to write another resolution that spells out the timeframe. And... If we wait till July, we don't have to do that because it's the same timeframe of the annual, of this residential bill. And with Perry County dragging their feet and the Sheriff bringing us equipment, our capital costs was getting delayed a day for every day that we use their equipment. I think the problem that this commercial industrial fee was trying to solve, which was funding our future equipment needs, the problem is that that's pressing with the Sheriff. And so... I think it'd be... I think we should wait till July of 27 to send the... The first bill? First. I think we... Sounds good. That's what you think is best. I think we can survive. I think we can survive. And that's the least... The least trouble. And I think I'll send a letter out in January explaining... Laying out... The... Yeah, I think we'd have trouble. 80,000... Yeah. 80,000. Perry County, you know, it's like 15,000 for this month, or for this... So far this year. And then the big thing is not wearing our equipment out, what we're running. The Sheriff's really... What he... That program he's doing is awesome. Yes. So... Saying all that, when I spoke to you today, and I asked you about... I was trying to find it on this crazy thing, about the email that you sent. Need to for sure get good addresses and everything be legit, because all I noticed in District 7, where you got your information for the billing, they've got B's closet in District 7. It is not in District 7. So, you know, that's going to look bad. You send a bill out to somebody that's... You ain't got the address right, so make sure you get something to... Yeah, thank you. To get that. And that was just one of them that popped out. I was going to go back and find it, but I couldn't. Yeah, that's good to know. All right, yeah. And then... Those are my reports. Anybody got any old business? Well, before we were gone, we didn't really make a decision on if we should delay it or not. And if we don't move in December, you're going to end up sending them suckers out. Yeah, right. So I think we probably ought to... We're going to do something. We're going to make a decision. So it sounds like we're about 80 grand, but we've got some revenue, I don't know, 15-ish, something like that, just from the Perry County thing. So that offsets that 80 to 65 total. I mean, I'm the one who wrote the resolution or introduced it for commercial. I don't have a problem with us delaying it. I think it'll give business owners a little longer. I am kind of interested, I guess, down in Lewis County, that they must obviously do the same thing with businesses because they're doing it with the mobile truck. That's what I said, John. Yeah, I was going to bring it up and do it. Don't bring it up anymore. I knew that, but I was kind of interested. I didn't realize Lewis County... Neither did I, so I got to do it. Yeah, yeah, so that's kind of interesting. So we're not the only... You know, it's not like we're unique in that, but if we decide to delay it, it's probably about a 65K impact or so. You're making a motion to delay it? No, I'm not. Yeah, I'll make that motion. I'll make that motion in a second to delay. Let me just go make it easier on your end. I mean, it's just easier as far as just the flow of it. Yeah, and then that way we can start out. That's your preference anyway, right? Does it do it that way? We all had a comment on making that. We might want to make a call to the county attorney, whoever that might end up being, to make sure that there's nothing else that we need to put through to make that okay. You know, because that was a resolution of where it was going to start and everything. We may have to make an amendment to that resolution, you know, to the full category. So if you could maybe find out that. Should have said it. I mean, it's a resolution we put through, and we're just going to say it here. I don't know that we, obviously, you know, our amendments get approved by the full kind of court, but I mean, I think the full kind of court may have to weigh in on it. Yes. So if we go to the county attorney, if we're still, if we don't meet next month, you're still going to send them out? Is that right? My understanding is that the committee, this is a committee that recommends motions to the county court, and so generally the county court approves our minutes, and then on special, bigger things, we kind of bring it up in county court. For a second vote? I think we'd have enough time this month to be able to find that out, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Because if we need a resolution, I can get, we can get one written up for the full court. Yeah. To amend that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And we're not doing anything right now. We're going to let you go to the county attorney. Right. We're not doing anything right now, yeah. Well, we could make a recommendation from this committee, you know, that we, this motion is still on the floor. We'll go until late. Yeah, until late. Yeah. And just for those that weren't here and didn't realize it, we were looking at $120, and it was right in the middle of $120, and with this resolution, it helped us to keep it at $110 versus $120 per year. Yeah. Yeah. So $10 off of everybody. Well. We need to make a discussion on motion to extend it to July, pending with the county attorney. Any more discussion? Let's do a roll call vote. Jordan? Sheldon Perinato. Yes. Keith Bentley. Yes. Tommy Esri. Yes. Steve Genopolis. Yes. Justin Jordan. Yes. Devin Pickard. Yes. Steve Anglin. Yes. Thank you, guys. That's all you got? That's all I have. That's all right. We're having a little movement. Devin sent us all out a text today about food trucks, and I'll turn it over to Devin later to find out what you've been up to. Well, I mean, we're running tight, but it's something to think about because, you know, I'm doing this for myself, of course, but Lewis County sent y'all that, sent me this invoice for $30 to go to Solid Waste, and I don't know if that's if you come. If I was to come just once a year, would it just be that one time, or quarterly, whatever? But it might be some more revenue opportunity, and there's more and more and more of those coming, and we've got coffee trucks and food trucks and all the things, which is great. My question would be for us to be thinking about would that include, would it somewhat include the Banana Pudding Festival? If you've got lots of food trucks that come to the Banana Pudding Festival, that might be something to consider. So we don't have to get into an in-depth discussion about it right now, but food trucks are a thing that, you know, I have to, when I go to Lewis County, I have to pay a business tax, I have to pay a business license. There's several little things that I think that we as a county, we aren't doing, and we probably really need to start thinking about doing that because I think it's some lost revenue that we could have, and I just think it's people's price of doing business. So it's something to consider when we think about that and we'll talk about that whenever we want to the next time. The front of your bill, I looked at it, but did you quarter it? Yeah, it appears to be quartered. It was $30. So, yeah, and again, I just had no idea I was going to get it, but it's fine, I'll pay it. Yep, $30 for this quarter, I guess. I could probably maybe work from 5 to 6, 7, 8, maybe even 10 trucks that come in and out of Tateman County.
We're probably behind on doing that because most communities now they charge various things for that. We want them to come, obviously. They're basically permanently in. Yes, correct. We don't hire them permanently. No. We don't charge them business license no more. I don't think so. I don't believe that they have to pay anything. I may be wrong. I may be wrong about that. Maybe they have to buy a business. Just something to start thinking about. It's becoming really popular. It is, and it's a good thing, but it could be a little bit of a revenue stream for solid waste and some other deposits. Just something to think about as we move forward. We can talk about it after the first year of the meeting. Okay. If you have a mind, we'll try to find out between now and the next meeting. I'll do some research on that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just ask him how that works. Anybody got anything else for this committee? Motion to adjourn. Second. Motion to adjourn. All those in favor can leave, except those against. Pardon me.