County Commissioners · Meeting · Nov 24, 2025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yfRKEdDKX4 Hickman County Legislative Body 11/24/2025 22:4422 minutes, 44 secondsI'm not 22:4722 minutes, 47 seconds[laughter] 23:0923 minutes, 9 secondsOh my goodness. 23:3923 minutes, 39 secondsBlow down on this. Yeah. 23:5723 minutes, 57 secondsYeah. 24:1824 minutes, 18 secondsI can't talk. 24:3224 minutes, 32 secondsalready. 25:0325 minutes, 3 seconds[laughter] 25:1625 minutes, 16 seconds[clears throat] 25:2425 minutes, 24 secondsGood from the Thank you. 25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsWe're going to call the November 24th meeting of the Hley County Legislative Body to order. The clerk would call roll. 25:4525 minutes, 45 secondsRon Mayberry here. 25:4625 minutes, 46 secondsRon Puget here. Ricky Murray here. Keith Nash here. Devin Pickard here. Matthew Barnhill here. 25:5225 minutes, 52 secondsPaul here. Clay Chester here. Danny Clark here. 25:5525 minutes, 55 secondsTodd Collins here. Wayne Thomasson here. Steve Janak here. Jim [clears throat] Harren. 26:0026 minutesDusty Jordan here. 13 present one absent. 13 present one absent. We have a quorum. 26:0726 minutes, 7 secondsWould you rise? Commissioner Collins is going to lead us in our opening prayer and Sheriff Jason Craft will lead us in. 26:1426 minutes, 14 seconds[clears throat] 26:1626 minutes, 16 secondsLet's pray. Most gracious, wonderful heavenly father, we realize one of the greatest things that we have is to come before you in prayer. 26:2326 minutes, 23 secondsHeavenly Father, as we approach your throne, we ask that we say the right things and do the right things. Remember each other. Heavenly 26:3226 minutes, 32 secondsFather, as we walk through this this week, and we remember that this week of Thanksgiving, and we remember all of the 26:4026 minutes, 40 secondsthings that we have that we're so thankful for. 26:4226 minutes, 42 seconds[clears throat] 26:4226 minutes, 42 secondsWe're thankful for those that's come before us and put us in this position, whether they were our loved ones or those that were in the process of doing 26:5026 minutes, 50 secondswhat we're doing and overlooking and seeing and into the future. And we pray that we have that vision, too. We ask you forgive us of our sins. We [snorts] 26:5826 minutes, 58 secondsask that you protect those that are protecting us. And heavenly father, we ask that all things we do here tonight will bring honor and glory to your name. 27:0527 minutes, 5 secondsAnd it's through your son, Jesus Christ we pray. Amen. Amen. 27:1227 minutes, 12 secondsAlgiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under 27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsGod, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 27:2627 minutes, 26 seconds[clears throat] 27:2727 minutes, 27 seconds[cough] 27:3327 minutes, 33 secondsCommissioners, you received in your packet an agenda for tonight's meeting. 27:3627 minutes, 36 secondsThe chair would entertain a motion in regards to that agenda. Mr. Commissioner Pucket. I'll make a motion to change resolution 2533 27:4527 minutes, 45 secondsand put it just after the app approval of the agenda. 27:4827 minutes, 48 secondsI have a motion to move 2533 uh to right after the approval of the agenda. Is there any objection to that? 27:5727 minutes, 57 secondsWe'll consider it moved. 28:0228 minutes, 2 seconds[clears throat] 28:0328 minutes, 3 secondsAny other items in regards to the agenda? 28:0628 minutes, 6 secondsMotion to approve the agenda. uh make sure everybody understands there was a there was a uh an error in the agenda 28:1228 minutes, 12 secondsand that is uh behind resolution 2533 it says that this was like the first hearing at the commission that [clears throat] was something that was 28:2128 minutes, 21 secondsshould not have been in there. So please make sure you strike that and don't anticipate that. So we have the agenda modified moving resolution 2533 after 28:2928 minutes, 29 secondsthe approval of the agenda. Uh have a motion by uh Commissioner Guanakis to accept that and move it forward. Is 28:3728 minutes, 37 secondsthere a second? Second by Commissioner Chester. Any discussion on the agenda as amended? 28:4428 minutes, 44 secondsHearing none. All those in favor say I. 28:4628 minutes, 46 secondsAll opposed. Eyes have it. Next item on the agenda, resolution 2533 28:5528 minutes, 55 secondsis sponsored by Commissioner Pucket and Commissioner Pickard. Do either of you wish to speak to this matter? 29:0129 minutes, 1 secondCommissioner, if it's convenient, is Miss Sydney Irwin and any of her family and any law 29:0829 minutes, 8 secondsenforcement representative would like to come forward if you would and just sort of right here in front of these uh double podiums and uh you can face the 29:1829 minutes, 18 secondsaudience. [clears throat] Any law enforcement officers what you like to come forward? 29:3929 minutes, 39 secondsHitman County, Tennessee resolution number 2533 requesting the general assembly of the state of Tennessee to designate a 29:4629 minutes, 46 secondsportion of Highway 100 East in Hitman County, Tennessee as the Central Police Chief Shannon Irwin Memorial Highway. 29:5529 minutes, 55 secondsWhereas a certain section of state highway 100 east lies within Hitman County. And whereas Chief Shannon was a 30:0230 minutes, 2 secondsrespected citizen of Hitman County and it's the desire of the community and this legislative body to honor his memory and lasting contribution to our 30:1030 minutes, 10 secondscounty and country. And whereas Shannon Irwin served as cable police chief and served not only center but the county 30:1730 minutes, 17 secondswith great honor and integrity. And whereas it county highway commission unanimously voted to move forward with renaming of a port of highway 100 to 30:2630 minutes, 26 secondscentral police chief Shannon Irwin Memorial [clears throat] Highway. 30:3030 minutes, 30 secondsWhereas the Hitman County legislative body is desirous of petitioning the general assembly of the state of Tennessee to designate such a section of 30:3830 minutes, 38 secondshighway as noted and will pass such resolution by twothirds majority of its members. Now therefore, be it resolved by the Hitman County Legislative Body meeting this 28th day of November 2025. 30:5130 minutes, 51 secondsThat's section one. We hereby encourage our representatives to the general assembly of the state of Tennessee, namely Senator Carrie Roberts and 30:5830 minutes, 58 secondsRepresentative Jody Barrett to draft, sponsor, [clears throat] and work for passage legislation to design the affforementioned section of Highway 100 31:0631 minutes, 6 secondsEast at the River Park Bridge from Highway 50 West in Hitman County, the Chief Shannon Irwin Memorial Highway. 31:1331 minutes, 13 secondssaid legislation should also direct the Tennessee Department of Transportation to erect suitable or feasible following the passage of the relevant state 31:2131 minutes, 21 secondslegislations. The Hitman County mayor is here by directed to furnish certified copies of this resolution to afor 31:2831 minutes, 28 secondsrepresentatives of the state of Tennessee general assembly at their offices in Nashville, Tennessee. This resolution shall become effective upon 31:3631 minutes, 36 secondsits passage by twothirds majority vote the welfare of the citizens of Hman County requiring it. We are honored to 31:4331 minutes, 43 secondshonor Chief Irwin and his family and his co-workers this evening. Thank you. Does any other commission have any? 31:5131 minutes, 51 seconds[applause] 31:5831 minutes, 58 secondsIf not, since this requires two vote, we'll have to take a roll call. 32:0332 minutes, 3 secondsRon Mayberry, yes. 32:0432 minutes, 4 secondsRon Pucket, yes. Ricky Murray, yes. Keith Nash, yes. 32:0732 minutes, 7 secondsDeon Picker, yes. 32:0932 minutes, 9 secondsMatthew Barhill, yes. 32:1032 minutes, 10 secondsPaul Calcott, yes. Yes. 32:1132 minutes, 11 secondsFake Chester, yes. Danny Clark, yes. Todd Collins, yes. 32:1432 minutes, 14 secondsWayne Thomasson, yes. Steve Dais, yes. 32:1732 minutes, 17 secondsDusty Jordan, yes. 13. Yes. And one absent. 32:2032 minutes, 20 seconds13 yes. One absent. The resolution is adopted. 32:2632 minutes, 26 seconds[applause] 32:4732 minutes, 47 seconds[clears throat] 32:5432 minutes, 54 secondsYours up. Sounds great. 33:1533 minutes, 15 secondsWe have uh next item on the agenda is the public comment period. We have several that have signed [clears throat] up to speak to this. Um because of the 33:2433 minutes, 24 secondsnumber, we're going to limit your speech, your talks to uh 3 minutes. I will remind you that this is to address 33:3133 minutes, 31 secondsa resolution or an item that's going to come up before us tonight and that's what everybody has done. So, first 33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsperson to speak is going down the list is Mr. Mark uh excuse me, Mr. Chris Clark. 33:5133 minutes, 51 secondsCommissioners, fellow county residents, thank you very much for your time. I know there are a lot of time. I'll keep it brief and not even use my full three minutes. Last 33:5933 minutes, 59 secondsweek, I had an opportunity to address this body and raise some concerns that I had over the current future land use plan as written. Uh during that time, we 34:0834 minutes, 8 secondswere asked by Commissioner Calakut if we would go ahead and what would we change about it. Uh the following day, myself and a few other farmers and homesteaders 34:1734 minutes, 17 secondsin the community had a meeting. We all put our heads together. We came up with some amendment suggestions. Uh I know a lot of people have forwarded that to 34:2434 minutes, 24 secondstheir commissioners. Over the course of this last week, I've personally been able to talk to more than one of you uh regarding some of those adoptions and 34:3234 minutes, 32 secondsproposed amendment changes that would please the majority of the people who had various objections to the plan. 34:3934 minutes, 39 secondsstrongly hope that as commissioner bodies that you strongly consider those amendments and at least recognize that something there needs to change for 34:4734 minutes, 47 secondsconsideration. And uh that going forward those two amendments specifically would address the zoning size or the minimum 34:5534 minutes, 55 secondstransfer size and eliminate the language of 3 to 15 acres and bring it down to one and make that a one acre. Uh the 35:0335 minutes, 3 secondssecond proposed amendment would be that which is actually just in accordance with zoning. 35:0735 minutes, 7 secondsThe second proposed amendment would be to go ahead and add in the verbiage for must meet with capacity studies for all 35:1435 minutes, 14 secondsof the future infrastructure such as schools, EMS, fire, roads, potable water, sewer, septic or sewage 35:2235 minutes, 22 secondsalternative, any of those things that we [clears throat] have before planning and use can be zoned. that would actually allow the county to say if you want to 35:3035 minutes, 30 secondsbuild something, we actually have a legal right to deny the plan if what you're proposing to build would exceed capacity for the area you're wishing to 35:3835 minutes, 38 secondsbuild it in. That would actually prevent the county from absorbing the hard cost of having to put those pieces of infrastructure in itself just to make 35:4735 minutes, 47 secondsthat happen. So that those are the two proposed amendment changes. Then also during those discussions it came up with commissioners that if you propose some 35:5535 minutes, 55 secondssimilar amendments to that and then table the vote for 60 days that would give citizens and commissioners ample time for review before they considered 36:0436 minutes, 4 secondsany further amendments. That's all I have and thank you for taking my time. 36:0836 minutes, 8 secondsThank you. [clears throat] The next uh person to speak is Mr. Bark Falls and it's on the land use plant. 36:1936 minutes, 19 seconds[clears throat] 36:2536 minutes, 25 secondsPass it down. 36:2936 minutes, 29 secondsThank you commissioners for allowing us to speak today. Um the last time last time I spoke 36:3836 minutes, 38 secondsum was about time with EMS and that still isn't completed. 36:4336 minutes, 43 secondskind of like uh kind of like a business plan. In order to forecast the future, you have to look at the past. So, I'm just going to kind of assume that you 36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsmay or may not pay attention, but if you don't mind, try to listen at least to what I got to say. 36:5836 minutes, 58 secondsOn page 43 [clears throat] of the land use plan, one of the goals is to expand sewer, sewer alternatives, and water coverage 37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsto meet growing demand in northeast Hickman. There's other criteria to meet that. That is one of the goals in the land use plan. 37:1937 minutes, 19 secondsThe last sheet that I gave you u on the designated zones, this is uh the comprehensive growth plans and the land use plans for plan growth area. 37:3137 minutes, 31 secondsThe compact sections outside incorporated municipalities and outside growth boundaries where higher moderate density growth is expected. If there are such [clears throat] areas in the county, new corporations may occur. 37:4337 minutes, 43 secondsIf you look below that under number three where it says several factors must be taken into account to determine the boundaries of these three areas uh and 37:5237 minutes, 52 secondsthe plan growth area is one of them. It said current and projected cost of infrastructure, 37:5937 minutes, 59 secondsurban services and public facilities needed for development and methods to finance these needs. 38:0838 minutes, 8 secondsNow [clears throat] below that the the TCA there's a state law down there. It's 6-58-106A 38:1838 minutes, 18 secondsand and pay attention if you will to that. U Mr. Colott said that you guys have counsel. Um and I highly recommend 38:2538 minutes, 25 secondsthat he reads this law in B1 of 6-58-106A. 38:3538 minutes, 35 secondsand B1 it says each planned growth area of a county shall and we know you know 38:4238 minutes, 42 secondsin real estate especially in contracts if it says shall it [clears throat] shall like it shall have um 38:5038 minutes, 50 seconds[clears throat] 38:5138 minutes, 51 secondsand so it's saying that that we need to have projected cost of infrastructure we need to have public facilities needed for development and methods to finance 38:5938 minutes, 59 secondsthese needs how we going to finance it 39:0339 minutes, 3 seconds[clears throat] 39:0439 minutes, 4 secondshow The next person on the public comment 39:1339 minutes, 13 secondsperiod is Miss and I apologize it's Carol Bomb, I believe. Miss Bomb. 39:2539 minutes, 25 seconds[cough and clears throat] 39:3639 minutes, 36 secondsYes, my name is Carolyn Vaughn and I live out on Bates Trail in Miles and uh I just want to say that I oppose this uh 39:4439 minutes, 44 secondsR1 reszoning. Uh the roads are narrow, have blind spots on it, and I appreciate you all listening to me. Thank you. 39:5439 minutes, 54 seconds[clears throat] 39:5439 minutes, 54 secondsThank you all. 40:0440 minutes, 4 secondsThe next person is M. Mr. Chris Gillum. 40:1040 minutes, 10 secondsHe's he is talking uh speaking in regards to base trail region. 40:2140 minutes, 21 secondsI'm Chris Gum. I live on base trail and I pose the R1 and the road is narrow and 40:3040 minutes, 30 secondshas the blind spot and thanks for listening to me. [clears throat] The next person to speak is Mr. Ronnie George in regards to the land use plan. 40:4340 minutes, 43 seconds[clears throat] 40:4440 minutes, 44 secondsUh last time I spoke I asked y'all a question because that's what we're doing. asking questions what this zoning 40:5140 minutes, 51 secondschange would do for future people and youngsters in this community. I didn't get the first answer. I cornered a 40:5940 minutes, 59 secondscouple people on the sidewalk. Then I asked him, I said, "Y'all didn't give me an answer." And he could finally give me an answer. So that kind of hurt my 41:0741 minutes, 7 secondsfeelings because nobody here could speak to what the benefit was to changing the rules. 41:1441 minutes, 14 secondsAnd if you look and you can Google it, the kids nowadays are no kids. They said the average homeowner, first time own 41:2241 minutes, 22 secondshomeowner is 40 years old. And you can Google it. You don't have to believe me. 41:2741 minutes, 27 seconds40 years old. I bought my farm when I was 26 because I had a help. And if if if it I'm telling you if you take away 41:3641 minutes, 36 secondsthe one acre that the grandparent [clears throat] or the uncle or their other kin folks could help them with because that's collateral when they go to a bank they got to have collateral. 41:4541 minutes, 45 secondsEven if somebody cosigns you got to have collateral and it just you're robbing them of it because we do 41:5241 minutes, 52 secondsbetter than most of the country because they got rules like this right here. You can't I mean three acres. I mean who can 42:0042 minutesafford three acres? I heard Ricky say 17,000 hit something $17,000. We do the math on three acres. 17,000. 42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsI mean you got to think about Yeah. 42:1342 minutes, 13 secondsThat's what I always think about. Not myself. I always think about the future generations and what good could y'all do 42:2042 minutes, 20 secondsas a county commission? How can you help those folks? Three acres ain't it. 15 acres ain't it. 5 acres wasn't it and 42:2942 minutes, 29 secondsyou keep hiding dancing around this thing kicking a can down the road and y'all done this for year and a half 42:3742 minutes, 37 secondsmaybe go along two and somebody asked those people to do the study for the five acres they didn't just pull out out 42:4442 minutes, 44 secondsof thin air paid the people $200,000 and what do you got but tell me I mean if y'all I know you can't speak to me now but later on put 42:5342 minutes, 53 secondssome thought to it tell me what you got for $200,000 42:5642 minutes, 56 seconds[clears throat] 42:5742 minutes, 57 secondsAll right. 43:0143 minutes, 1 secondThe next person to speak is Mr. Dwight Sullivan in regards to the land use plan. 43:0743 minutes, 7 secondsWell, thank you members of the legislative body for letting me speak again. I spoke last uh Monday at the meeting. My concern [clears throat] also 43:1643 minutes, 16 secondsis the the 3 to 15 acre plan. Um I went back and read this plan. Hopefully the 43:2343 minutes, 23 secondsright one. I know you got a revised plan. I hope I was reading the right one. But if you're looking at the um seems like you're trying to restrict 43:3143 minutes, 31 secondsgrowth 3 to 15 acres on an area that's already less than 10% of if any of those areas grow and majority of them has 43:4043 minutes, 40 secondsactually decreased in population or 0 to 25%. So, uh, kind of behooves me 43:4843 minutes, 48 secondsto sit and try to figure out why you would want to limit property to 3 to 15 acres when it was already decreasing in 43:5743 minutes, 57 secondspopulation over the last 20 years. And uh, people that's maintenance plans a lot smarter than I am. And I think 44:0444 minutes, 4 secondsthey've done a heck of a job. I'm going to disagree Ronnie a little bit. The state asked for data. They've asked for numbers and I think there's a good all 44:1344 minutes, 13 secondsthe population numbers and things. Good data. That's what they want. They want to know where the electricity is at, where the water's at. Uh like the other 44:2144 minutes, 21 secondsgentleman said, where's what we're going to do about utilities, especially in that growth area. I think it's a 44:2744 minutes, 27 secondslegitimate U concerns. But the big deal tonight, I think last Monday there would 44:3444 minutes, 34 secondsbe thought there was a comment made there'd be a motion to amend that to one acre. I don't know what that process is. 44:4144 minutes, 41 secondsI don't know if it means you got to put off uh voting on the growth plan till you get that included in it or whether it can just be amended here tonight and 44:4944 minutes, 49 secondsvote on it. As of tonight, that's the only real plan. Only problem I have is that [clears throat] 3 to 15 acres in 44:5644 minutes, 56 secondsthat in that preservation is so just consider that think about it. Thank you. 45:0445 minutes, 4 seconds[clears throat] 45:0645 minutes, 6 secondsThe next person to speak is Miss Kathy Redden and she's speaking in regards to the land use plan. 45:1245 minutes, 12 secondsYou're the right I can answer your question on the amendment. 45:1745 minutes, 17 secondsI'm Kathy Winters Redden, a district 4 citizen voter and property owner. I have a few things that I feel that needs to 45:2545 minutes, 25 secondsbe addressed. So let me your ear for just a few minutes. I am disgusted to hear a commissioner make mention where 45:3345 minutes, 33 secondswas everyone during the planning meetings. I've not attended the planning meetings because for the last three years I've been homebound and wheelchair bound. 45:4545 minutes, 45 secondsI am not two weeks posttop from major reconstructive back surgery and against my surgical instructions I am here. 45:5545 minutes, 55 secondsSo, please do not insult the people you are supposed to serve by blaming us for the restrictive legislations getting this far. 46:0546 minutes, 5 secondsThis is a creation of our zoning committee and not of the people in my opinion. I keep hearing go to your commissioners that serve you. Well, that 46:1446 minutes, 14 secondsonly works if the commissioner will listen and value the opinion of the one he serves. Not all of us have that luxury. 46:2346 minutes, 23 secondsMost of us have to work our entire adult adult working lives to pay for a home in a small personal land instead of our 46:3146 minutes, 31 secondsparents giving us what we have today. If you inherited your property or swindled your parents or someone out of their property, then consider yourself not 46:3946 minutes, 39 secondslike most of us. I value my investment in this county by raising my family here and being a property owner. It really 46:4746 minutes, 47 secondsmakes me question if rules are being made to keep people out, including developers and investors, or is there 46:5546 minutes, 55 secondssomeone wanting to buy up unsellable property cheap so they can remain being the big fish in the wood upon? 47:0347 minutes, 3 secondsThe citizen has no control over our utility districts to extend city water to a piece of property or any development. 47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsWith that being said, where is the definition written exactly what potable water is anyway? [clears throat] 47:2147 minutes, 21 secondsIn politics, you believe nothing you are told without researching and checking what the law says because the tactical 47:2947 minutes, 29 secondsskills of lying and manipulation of words is great amongst ones who want to control others. 47:3747 minutes, 37 secondsPlease strike the 5 to 15 acre verbiage from the [clears throat] growth plan and 47:4347 minutes, 43 secondsreplace the verbiage with one acre. TCA 47:4747 minutes, 47 seconds[clears throat] 47:4847 minutes, 48 seconds658104. 47:5047 minutes, 50 secondsIs clear that the verbiage must be removed from the document before passage 47:5847 minutes, 58 secondsand not by resolution as you have been told. Once the growth plan is approved 48:0548 minutes, 5 secondsand it it cannot be amended for three years. 48:0948 minutes, 9 secondsDelta Mayberry told you this 3acre rule would create a significant loss of property tax revenue. This fact should 48:1748 minutes, 17 secondsbe enough to indicate the 3 to 15 acre rule is bad for us. I started in a single wide after college and laid down 48:2448 minutes, 24 secondsmy roots to never leave. My roots allowed me to be there for my daddy Burton Wyinners when he needed my help to live independently to the age of 100. 48:3548 minutes, 35 secondsMiss Kathy, you had 3 minutes and 30 seconds, but but you will you will be able to uh you know can your kids say the same thing? 48:4648 minutes, 46 secondsThe next person to speak [clears throat] is Miss Lily Paige and that is in regards to resolution 2532. Hello commissioners, my name is Lily. 48:5548 minutes, 55 secondsI'm the owner of 9231 Bates Trail and I'm here today to speak about resolution 2532. I've been to these meetings for 49:0249 minutes, 2 secondsthe past 11 months regarding this resoning request. I have passed the planning and zoning board multiple times, each time leading me back to this 49:1049 minutes, 10 secondscommission. Each time I have been here with you all, you created new rules and hoops for me to jump through. My reasonzoning request was initiated long 49:1949 minutes, 19 secondsbefore the recent unjust reasonzoning re resolution 2529. With that in mind, I'm here to respectfully ask for your fair 49:2749 minutes, 27 secondsand consistent review of my request to demonstrate that my property meets every requirement of R1 and fits within the 49:3449 minutes, 34 secondscounty's own vision for this area. My land is inside the designated growth zone and already has public water, 49:4249 minutes, 42 secondsroadway access, emergency services, and nearby schools. This makes this request fully consistent with the plan and surrounding residential development. 49:5049 minutes, 50 secondsThere also have been several recent resonings from A1 to R1. Reszonings just like mine, all approved by this 49:5749 minutes, 57 secondscommission, and I'm asking for the same fair and consistent consideration. I respect the responsibility each of you 50:0550 minutes, 5 secondscommissioners hold. I'm not here to challenge your policy. I'm here to show that my request aligns with the county rules, state law, and reasonable growth. 50:1450 minutes, 14 secondsI ask for your support tonight so I can move forward with the compliant, reasonable, and community aligned with my own property. After spending $8,000 50:2250 minutes, 22 secondsin legal representation, I plan to continue this battle against your commission. If my request is denied, I 50:2950 minutes, 29 secondswill sign onto the pending lawsuit against the county. [clears throat] I also want to make a comment that um 9231 50:3750 minutes, 37 secondsBates Trail, the reason why I am reszoning it is because the survey people just told me it was the best thing I could do because it could allow 50:4550 minutes, 45 secondsme to get another house there with a smaller lot size. Thank you. 50:5250 minutes, 52 seconds[clears throat] 50:5350 minutes, 53 secondsThe next person to speak is Mr. Keith Tucker in regards to the land use plan. 51:0851 minutes, 8 seconds[cough and clears throat] 51:1551 minutes, 15 secondsI'd like to start by saying I appreciate for being able to speak tonight. I'd really rather be doing something else honestly um as to speak, but you know 51:2451 minutes, 24 secondsI'm against this 3 to 15 acres or that's what one person wanted to say. and throw the numbers out and then y'all figure 51:3151 minutes, 31 secondsout what to put in there. And I asked the question whenever I asked the first night I was up here, can you afford your house right now that 51:3951 minutes, 39 secondsyou own with the job you've got at 3 to 15 acres tonight? I mean, I got a pretty 51:4751 minutes, 47 secondsdecent job me and my wife both do. But if I had to sit and buy my place today with the job I got, I couldn't do it. 51:5451 minutes, 54 secondsThat's going to put a burden on our young people. I mean, there's no doubt about it. You know, to have to come up 52:0052 minuteswith 3 to 15 acres and 75% of the county as this map drawn tonight. 52:0652 minutes, 6 secondsIt's going to put a burden on them. I looked up right before I come in here. 5 acres of land and and pinewood. It's going for $125,000, folks. 52:1652 minutes, 16 seconds$125,000. 52:1952 minutes, 19 secondsI know some people say, you know, they don't like the farmland being bought up. 52:2352 minutes, 23 secondsI say that's, you know, whenever something happens to you, whenever something happens to me, it's my kids' choice whether they want to sell it or 52:3152 minutes, 31 secondswhether they want to keep it. That's America. That's just our values. I mean, they can either decide whether they want to sell it or whether they keep it. 52:4052 minutes, 40 secondsLand's been divided in the United States since the day it come into institute. 52:4552 minutes, 45 secondsYou know, if you don't like it, you know, I say you need to kind of get over it. 52:5152 minutes, 51 secondsUh, I don't know how our young people are are are going to forward it. Um, a lot of people say the the county has has 52:5852 minutes, 58 secondsgrown too much. Well, since I've graduated in about the year 2000, we've grown by about 4,000 people. Do y'all 53:0753 minutes, 7 secondsrealize how many people's walked through them high school doors? 53:1053 minutes, 10 secondsThere's been about 6 to 7,000 walk through them high school doors. This right here is like saying shut the door in their face. 53:1953 minutes, 19 secondsWe would have grown by six to 7,000 if all of them come back. And that's not even counting if they had got married and had kids. 53:2853 minutes, 28 secondsSome people say, "Hey, we've grown too much." I don't know. We're the 11th largest county in the state of Tennessee. 53:3853 minutes, 38 seconds11th largest. We ranked 58th in population. We're the second largest county in the state of Tennessee 53:4653 minutes, 46 secondsto have the most land with the least population. 53:5053 minutes, 50 secondsLet them numbers sink in. You can Google it. Don't take my word for it. I've done the research on it. 53:5753 minutes, 57 secondsBut I would like to close by saying that me being raised in Hitman County my whole life. I never would have thought 54:0654 minutes, 6 secondsthat an acre of land in a house would not be good enough for me 25 years ago. 54:1254 minutes, 12 secondsI don't know for y'all that was my American dream. That was my He County dream. 54:1854 minutes, 18 secondsI don't know. That's all I'd like to say. Y'all take everything in account and I appreciate it. 54:2654 minutes, 26 secondsThe next person to speak is Mr. Austin Page on resolution 2532. [clears throat] I just want to speak to this briefly. Um 54:3554 minutes, 35 secondsI want to clear up a few things because like Lily, my wife has said, we've been in this for 11 months. I don't own this property. My wife owns this property. 54:4454 minutes, 44 secondsShe got it from her father. Um there's I believe been some misconception amongst the community that maybe I've had her 54:5254 minutes, 52 secondsreszone this property. Not the case. Um, just want to make that clear. The other thing I want to bring to your I guess your thought process here is we've heard 55:0055 minuteswhat they said about the road and they're right. And is that Lily's fault? It's not her fault. It's a public road. 55:0955 minutes, 9 secondsIt's a Chipinar County road that people have lived up and down it forever. We've passed the She's passed the I say we 55:1655 minutes, 16 secondsbecause you know we're married, but we've passed the Blandon and zoning board multiple times. we've went through back and forth. She's simply trying to work within the rules that are set. 55:2955 minutes, 29 secondsShe has potable water. She's on County Road. And another thing, this is not a development. It's two acres. It's a 55:3755 minutes, 37 secondssingle family home. And for anywhere in Hitman County, anywhere in Hitman County, if you have an acre of dirt, you 55:4355 minutes, 43 secondscan build a single family home or a duplex. That's my right. I have no control over that. So, 55:5255 minutes, 52 secondsUm, I guess what I want to say here is 55:5655 minutes, 56 seconds[bell] 55:5755 minutes, 57 secondsthat's what I hear when Commissioner Clark talks. 56:0156 minutes, 1 secondSo, I guess what I was want to say here is please follow through with the rules you've set. She has followed every rule and every obstacle that you put in the way. 56:1256 minutes, 12 secondsDo what's [clears throat] right. We're just trying to build one single family home for her. Enough's enough. And as far as the residents go, they're holding 56:2056 minutes, 20 secondssome of the residents that have treated her the hardest have built a custom home right beside this property. Why is the road big enough for them to live on, but 56:2856 minutes, 28 secondsnot for her to build a house on? That's simply not fair. That's all I have to say about it. And I apologize in advance you have to hear me twice for the land use plan. 56:3756 minutes, 37 secondsUm, the next person to speak is Miss Cynthia Holloway. This is in regards to land use. 56:4556 minutes, 45 secondsHey y'all. Thank you so much for allowing us a moment to speak. I have a little bit different perspective than most of the perspectives I've heard from [clears throat] my fellow citizens. 56:5556 minutes, 55 secondsI have lived in a community where growth was coming and they properly planned for 57:0257 minutes, 2 secondsthe growth and they did implement a tax and people didn't like it too much. Took about 25 years for them to actually raise the funds that were needed to begin to build the infrastructure. 57:1357 minutes, 13 secondsAnd it did take a while once the infrastructure was built to actually see companies coming, major manufacturing and corporations coming to the area to 57:2257 minutes, 22 secondsset up shop. But the infrastructure was already in place. Somebody had made a comment about places like Hoen Wald you know they created some infrastructure. 57:3157 minutes, 31 secondsNobody's coming but they will and things people invested. They were willing to invest per tax a very very small tax and 57:4057 minutes, 40 secondsthey set up the infrastructure. I've also lived in third world countries where you didn't have a septic and you didn't have the modern conveniences that 57:4957 minutes, 49 secondswe are privileged to have in our community. We work hard for it. It's a privilege to be able to enjoy it. But 57:5757 minutes, 57 secondsI've also been in places like Murray County where I have spoken with people who live in Murray County. I knocked on dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of doors and I spoke with people there. 58:0858 minutes, 8 secondsMost of them were horrified. Their community has been ruined. It's turning into a squalor in some places in the name of growth and convenience. 58:2058 minutes, 20 secondsI think one of the major problems we have here in our county is that there are two opposing visions. 58:2758 minutes, 27 secondsOne vision seeks to think in things on the short term. short term, how does 58:3358 minutes, 33 secondsthis affect me, myself, and I and my [clears throat] family right here and right now. 58:3958 minutes, 39 secondsThen there's the other vision. People are thinking long-term and they're thinking about how can we set things up 58:4658 minutes, 46 secondshere to manage the eventual growth that will be hitting our area. So, we have 58:5358 minutes, 53 secondstwo competing philosophies and two competing visions. 58:5858 minutes, 58 secondsI'm a long thinker. I'm a visionary. I don't always think about, you know, taking care of me, myself, and mine. But 59:0659 minutes, 6 secondsI have a very different mindset. I don't always view life from black and white and what's in my immediate hands. But 59:1259 minutes, 12 secondsthere are other people like me who are also visionaries and they're thinking about things in the future. What we do 59:2059 minutes, 20 secondshere today is going to affect what happens to this community into the future. 59:2659 minutes, 26 secondsSo the problem that you all the challenge you all have is trying to appease everybody and you cannot do that. You just can't do it. So I I say because we cannot come to a consensus. 59:3859 minutes, 38 secondsYeah. There should be a pause because we need to give this a little more thought. 59:4459 minutes, 44 secondsAs for the acre land situation, I just want people to be informed if you're not aware. Taxes don't go down. Property 59:5159 minutes, 51 secondstaxes don't go down. When you when a a community grows and it begins to explode, it goes up. Anybody paying attention to what's happening in 59:5859 minutes, 58 secondsSouthside Chicago right now, it's horrifying. And those people are in the struggle for their lives. 70 I'm sorry. 1:00:071 hour, 7 secondsThank you so very much. I trust you all to do the right thing. 1:00:111 hour, 11 secondsThe next person to speak is Mr. Ethan Hudgens on the Bates Trail, Arizona. 1:00:201 hour, 20 secondsSorry. 1:00:231 hour, 23 secondsI'd like to start off by saying that I have lived on Bates Trail my entire [cough and clears throat] life. 1:00:291 hour, 29 secondsI have watched it grow to what it is today, which is undersized, heavily traveled road that is no wider than it was 20 years ago. 1:00:391 hour, 39 secondsIt has a dangerous blind spot that is right in front or right beside the residency that is wanting to be reszoned. We have had people from this 1:00:471 hour, 47 secondslocation back out into the road and stop traffic. This is a safety issue. The road is only 11 to 12 feet in width with 1:00:541 hour, 54 secondsthe average vehicle ranging from 6.8 to 7.8 ft in width. Needless to say, it is impossible to pass a vehicle on this 1:01:021 hour, 1 minute, 2 secondsroad without driving into yards and shallow ditches. 1:01:061 hour, 1 minute, 6 secondsIt is also my belief that the individual asking for a reasonzoning is not only asking for that, but is also asking to be treated differently and to held to a 1:01:141 hour, 1 minute, 14 secondsdifferent standard than the rest of the residents on this road. by cutting the lot size down in a manner to where the lot size can be 30,000 square feet while 1:01:221 hour, 1 minute, 22 secondsthe rest of us are held to the A11 acre standard. There is no existing real R1 property on Bates Trail. The reason that 1:01:301 hour, 1 minute, 30 secondsthe owner doesn't understand our concerns is because they do not live on our road. 1:01:351 hour, 1 minute, 35 secondsThis is why I'd like to ask the commissioners to take this into consideration tonight when y'all have y'all's vote. Thanks. 1:01:441 hour, 1 minute, 44 secondsThe next person to speak is Mr. Austin Page in regards to the land use plan. 1:01:481 hour, 1 minute, 48 secondsSure. Here I as far as the land use plan that you've got in front of you, I want to echo what most said I believe if you 1:01:571 hour, 1 minute, 57 secondsreduce it down to one acre, it's going to be able to satisfy most of the people in the [clears throat] community and I believe that's your best case solution 1:02:051 hour, 2 minutes, 5 secondsto be in compliance with the state requirement to have a land use plan and not hurt the residents that need it the 1:02:121 hour, 2 minutes, 12 secondsmost. Uh I don't believe It's it's you're not going to stop developers. You're not going to stop investors. The only people you're going 1:02:201 hour, 2 minutes, 20 secondsto hurt with five to whatever you guys decide acre minimum is the the young a 1:02:271 hour, 2 minutes, 27 secondsyoung person, someone who needs help from a family member, anything like that. You're not hurting developers at all. They're going to [clears throat] come in bond and pave a road. That was a 1:02:351 hour, 2 minutes, 35 secondsrequirement before this. So, I just want to echo and say I think a 1acre minimum, maybe even followed up by resolution like Commissioner Nash said would be uh 1:02:451 hour, 2 minutes, 45 secondswould be helpful. But as far as tonight, a 1acre minimum I think would satisfy. 1:02:511 hour, 2 minutes, 51 secondsThe next person to speak is M. Sam Shy on the Bates Trail Zoning. 1:03:001 hour, 3 minutes[clears throat] 1:03:041 hour, 3 minutes, 4 secondsSam, did I pronounce your last name correctly? 1:03:061 hour, 3 minutes, 6 secondsSure. Yes. Yes. Um I'll keep it real short. 1:03:111 hour, 3 minutes, 11 secondsEverybody has different uh cases to make, you know, whether it's age related, economy related, or whatever. 1:03:191 hour, 3 minutes, 19 secondsI've been there six generations with a short family. And I'd hate to see 1:03:261 hour, 3 minutes, 26 secondsa big change when I came, you know, to the adulthood to move away, become a professional, come back home, set my 1:03:351 hour, 3 minutes, 35 secondsseat. I'm permanently here. I know everybody, you know, I've seen all the people here. I went to school with my teachers, etc. 1:03:441 hour, 3 minutes, 44 secondsEverybody's impacted differently, but I would like to stick to the point that the road is narrow. And if it goes into more detail, I'll talk about that when 1:03:531 hour, 3 minutes, 53 secondsthe time comes. But everybody thinks one way. There's other things going on there. But I'll I'll leave it at that. 1:04:021 hour, 4 minutes, 2 seconds[clears throat] 1:04:021 hour, 4 minutes, 2 secondsNext person to speak is Miss Leslie Hudgens in regards to the Bates Trail Reson. 1:04:141 hour, 4 minutes, 14 secondsHello. Um, so first of all, um, yes, speaking on the B strawberry zoning, I emailed all you guys, so you already 1:04:211 hour, 4 minutes, 21 secondsknow my points, I'm sure, as far as last time, too. 1:04:251 hour, 4 minutes, 25 secondsum our custom home um we tore down an existing trailer, single wide trailer and put a home there and we have done 1:04:321 hour, 4 minutes, 32 secondsmany upgrades to that property. It was grown up and we made it less of a eyesore. I mean, and we cater to the 1:04:401 hour, 4 minutes, 40 secondstheater, turkey, all that. We're just trying to keep that kind of thing going. 1:04:451 hour, 4 minutes, 45 secondsUm I'm not concerned with a single family home. Not concerned. 1:04:521 hour, 4 minutes, 52 secondsBut the thing is is from what I have learned throughout all this, which I'm 1:04:581 hour, 4 minutes, 58 secondsnot an expert by any means. Um, A1, you can build a single family home. They already have a house there. They can build another one. No problem. 1:05:071 hour, 5 minutes, 7 secondsReszoning, in my opinion, I feel like there's going to be a multifamily dwelling being built. I don't know that. That's just a speculation on my part. 1:05:161 hour, 5 minutes, 16 secondsUm, but that's my fear with it. And you know, that's what we're trying to stop and that's what we've been fighting for 1:05:231 hour, 5 minutes, 23 secondsthis whole time. I'm not trying to tell people what to do with their property. 1:05:271 hour, 5 minutes, 27 secondsSingle family home, fantastic. And I'm just trying to what we got and keep the 1:05:341 hour, 5 minutes, 34 secondsroad how it is and not have a lot of extra stuff going on on a really tiny area of property. That's that's really all I got to say. Thank you so much. 1:05:521 hour, 5 minutes, 52 secondsThe next item on the agenda is the adoption of the minutes from the Monday, October 27th meeting. Chair to entertain a motion to adopt. 1:06:021 hour, 6 minutes, 2 secondsMotion by Commissioner Clark, second by Commissioner Chester. Any discussion? 1:06:101 hour, 6 minutes, 10 secondsSeeing none, all those in favor say I. 1:06:121 hour, 6 minutes, 12 secondsI. All opposed? 1:06:141 hour, 6 minutes, 14 secondsEyes have it. The chair is unaware of any special recognitions, memorials, recommendations, anything need brought up. 1:06:271 hour, 6 minutes, 27 secondsThe chair is unaware of any elections that need to be taking place. 1:06:341 hour, 6 minutes, 34 secondsUnder appointments and confirmations, we have four people who've requested to be notaries in the county. 1:06:431 hour, 6 minutes, 43 secondsCrystal Brown, Benjamin Knox, Shelby Pierce, 1:06:511 hour, 6 minutes, 51 secondsand Tracy Wright. Those are the four names that we put forward. 1:06:561 hour, 6 minutes, 56 secondsHave a motion to approve. Motion by Commissioner Pickard, second by Commissioner Guanakas. Any discussion on those four names? 1:07:051 hour, 7 minutes, 5 secondsSeeing none. Roll call vote. 1:07:081 hour, 7 minutes, 8 secondsRon Mayberry, yes. 1:07:091 hour, 7 minutes, 9 secondsRon Pucket, [snorts] yes. [clears throat] Murray, yes. Keith Nash, yes. Stephanie Pitcher, yes. Barnhill, yes. Paul Calott, yes. Clay Chester, yes. 1:07:171 hour, 7 minutes, 17 secondsDanny Clark, yes. Todd Collins, yes. 1:07:191 hour, 7 minutes, 19 secondsWayne Thompson, yes. 1:07:211 hour, 7 minutes, 21 secondsSteve, yes. Dusty Jordan, here. 1:07:241 hour, 7 minutes, 24 seconds13. Yes. One. Does any commissioner wish to change his vote? 13. Yes. One. The notaries are adopted. 1:07:311 hour, 7 minutes, 31 secondsUh the UT extension service has put forward 1:07:371 hour, 7 minutes, 37 secondsthe following three names to be uh take the place of some folks that would the vacancies that will occur on January 1:07:461 hour, 7 minutes, 46 seconds1st. Um the first one is Mr. Jonathan Lass who's going to replace Dwayne Matthysse. 1:07:561 hour, 7 minutes, 56 secondsThat's the the under the the uh he the farmer. The second one is under farm woman uh Hannah Mlelen to replace Miss Leah Owens. 1:08:101 hour, 8 minutes, 10 secondsAnd the third one is a farmer. It's Mr. Tim Matthysse and that's to replace Mr. 1:08:171 hour, 8 minutes, 17 secondsTim Johnson. So the three new names are excuse me Jonathan Mass, 1:08:241 hour, 8 minutes, 24 secondsHannah Mlen, and Tim Matthysse. Do I have a motion to approve? 1:08:301 hour, 8 minutes, 30 secondsMotion by Commissioner Chester, second by Commissioner Mayberry. Any discussion? 1:08:401 hour, 8 minutes, 40 secondsRoll call vote. Ron Mayberry. Yes. Ron Pucket, yes. 1:08:451 hour, 8 minutes, 45 secondsRicky Mur, [laughter] Keith Nash, yes. Deon Picker, yes. 1:08:481 hour, 8 minutes, 48 secondsBarnhill, yes. Paul Calott, yes. Clay Chester, yes. Danny Clark, yes. Todd Collins. Yes. Wayne Thompson. Yes. 1:08:561 hour, 8 minutes, 56 secondsSteve Janak. Yes. Dusty Jordan. Yes. 1:08:591 hour, 8 minutes, 59 seconds13. Yes. One. 13. Yes. One absent. Does any commission wish to change the vote? 1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 seconds13. Yes. One. 13. Yes. One absent. The name those names are approved. 1:09:121 hour, 9 minutes, 12 secondsM. Donna. I assume you're going to take good care of that. Okay. 1:09:181 hour, 9 minutes, 18 secondsUh chair is not aware of any bonds that need to be approving nor any quarterly reports. [clears throat] Next item on the agenda is communication from the county mayor. 1:09:281 hour, 9 minutes, 28 secondsThank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, early in November, I did attend the governor's conference. Um, Hitman County is a 1:09:351 hour, 9 minutes, 35 secondsrecipient again of the governor's three star award. 1:09:421 hour, 9 minutes, 42 secondsUm, on November the 12th, there was a ribbon cutting for Imagination Library. 1:09:471 hour, 9 minutes, 47 secondsCity mayor and I both attended down there. Um, that's a Jerry Dixon walking trail. you get a chance to go see it, go 1:09:541 hour, 9 minutes, 54 secondssee it. They did a fabulous job. I just want to give them some kudos there. 1:10:001 hour, 10 minutesSouth Central Railroad, um we met with them on the 20th and we discussed the future plans for part of 1:10:071 hour, 10 minutes, 7 secondsor the majority of the railway, um what we could do with it. Um I don't know how familiar this body is with 1:10:151 hour, 10 minutes, 15 secondsthis, but south of the Duck River Bridge, there's not much that we can that can be done with it. 1:10:221 hour, 10 minutes, 22 secondsUm, so we're looking at some tourism ideas. Um, and we we we're in the midst of talking about all that to see how 1:10:301 hour, 10 minutes, 30 secondsthat's going to look in the future. Um, that that property will still belong to the railroad. If we do some kind of 1:10:381 hour, 10 minutes, 38 secondstourism thing with it, it still [clears throat] belong to the railroad. 1:10:401 hour, 10 minutes, 40 secondsThat way, if something happens at a future date in Lewis County or something down there south of Duck River Bridge, if it gets repaired, then they can take it back and put the rail back. 1:10:511 hour, 10 minutes, 51 seconds[clears throat] 1:10:521 hour, 10 minutes, 52 secondsUm, I've been working with emergency management in the South Central Tennessee Development District um on the disaster relief grant. It was grant 1:11:001 hour, 11 minutesmoney that was allotted to Hickman County for uh the flooding events that we had. Um, [clears throat] 1:11:101 hour, 11 minutes, 10 secondsso we're seeking uh for the grant to be used for can't even read my own writing here for some stream cleanup on the Piney River. 1:11:221 hour, 11 minutes, 22 secondsand some of its tributaries. The worst spots is going to be hit first. Um there has to be an engineer study done, but it's all coming out of that grant. There 1:11:311 hour, 11 minutes, 31 secondsis no match to that grant. That was the $1.9 million that was for the disaster relief. Um we are also looking into the 1:11:401 hour, 11 minutes, 40 secondsum flood plane management program plan for Heaton County. That will as well come out of that grant as well. 1:11:501 hour, 11 minutes, 50 secondsUm, Hickman County was denied the CDBG grant. I know we we spent a lot of time 1:11:581 hour, 11 minutes, 58 secondson that. Um, that was going to be used for cardiac monitors for EMS and I just received a letter 3 days ago that we 1:12:071 hour, 12 minutes, 7 secondswere denied uh that grant. So, at the next health and safety meeting, we got to come up with a plan. 1:12:161 hour, 12 minutes, 16 secondsUm I wasn't going to speak on this but I will. The VSO position I had very few inquiries about it. Um 1:12:251 hour, 12 minutes, 25 secondsthe majority of people that has called my office uh wanted a full-time position. 1:12:321 hour, 12 minutes, 32 secondsNow after giving this some thought I am going to revert it back to a full-time position with some 1:12:391 hour, 12 minutes, 39 secondsstipulations. Those stipulations are going to be half the time it's going to be used in cinema and the other half we're going to try to find them office 1:12:481 hour, 12 minutes, 48 secondsum some space that they can help the veterans at the east end of the county with most of the population. 1:12:541 hour, 12 minutes, 54 seconds[clears throat] 1:12:541 hour, 12 minutes, 54 secondsSo that will enable both VSOs for the city and the county to work together and that way we can reach more veterans. 1:13:041 hour, 13 minutes, 4 secondsUm and my opioid will be on the list there. 1:13:141 hour, 13 minutes, 14 secondsThank you. 1:13:211 hour, 13 minutes, 21 secondsCommittee reports, planning commission. 1:13:251 hour, 13 minutes, 25 secondsUh yes. Uh the minutes are in the packet. 1:13:291 hour, 13 minutes, 29 secondsUh we just had um uh one new zone. It was it. We got some training coming up in December. 1:13:371 hour, 13 minutes, 37 secondsBut it any questions for planning commission? Solid waste committee. 1:13:461 hour, 13 minutes, 46 secondsUh we did meet and the minutes are in the packet and Jordan is here if we have any anybody has any questions. 1:13:551 hour, 13 minutes, 55 secondsAny questions for solafy 1:14:001 hour, 14 minutes[clears throat] 1:14:021 hour, 14 minutes, 2 secondsand properties committee? 1:14:041 hour, 14 minutes, 4 secondsWe had a meeting the short meeting the the thing about the solid waste and uh public safety Monday night is that it 1:14:131 hour, 14 minutes, 13 secondscomes so early in the month a lot of times the trustee and the finance office really don't have anything for us. So, we did manage the only vote we took was 1:14:211 hour, 14 minutes, 21 secondswe did manage to have the ambulance services financial statement and we approved that. 1:14:281 hour, 14 minutes, 28 secondsOther than that, there there wasn't a lot done and I was thinking about cancelling the meeting while I [clears throat] was giving this 1:14:361 hour, 14 minutes, 36 secondsreport since it's December and the legislative body won't meet 3 days before Christmas. But the mayor just informed me and I heard it for the first 1:14:451 hour, 14 minutes, 45 secondstime that there may be a need to uh on that. So you you'll be hearing from me 1:14:521 hour, 14 minutes, 52 secondson whether or not we have the meeting after I have a chance to talk to the mayor on what we may or may not be able to do if December public safety. 1:15:031 hour, 15 minutes, 3 secondsThat's all I've got. Any questions? 1:15:081 hour, 15 minutes, 8 secondsCould we get a small update [clears throat] on the Pinewood EMS station? Just where we're at. 1:15:141 hour, 15 minutes, 14 secondsNot from me. I haven't been out there in two or three weeks. The last time I was there, the drywall's home. The drywall's finished. The outside is done. Uh if 1:15:241 hour, 15 minutes, 24 secondsyou're looking for any kind of timetable, but I I have no knowledge of that. 1:15:321 hour, 15 minutes, 32 secondsAnything else? 1:15:361 hour, 15 minutes, 36 secondsFinance committee. Finance committees did meet u in the packet I do would like to make a motion to approve the financial summary for October. 1:15:481 hour, 15 minutes, 48 secondsHave a motion by Commissioner Jordan and second by Commissioner Guianakis to approve the financial summary for October 2025. Any discussion? 1:15:581 hour, 15 minutes, 58 secondsSeeing none. Ron Mayberry. Yes. Ron Pucket. Yes. Richie Murray. Yes. Keith Nash. Yes. Deon Pictor. 1:16:061 hour, 16 minutes, 6 secondsYes. Matthew, yes. [clears throat] Paul Calott, yes. Chap, yes. Danny Clark, yes. Todd Collins, yes. 1:16:121 hour, 16 minutes, 12 secondsWayne Thomas, yes. 1:16:131 hour, 16 minutes, 13 secondsSteve Janak, yes. 1:16:141 hour, 16 minutes, 14 secondsDustin, yes. 13, yes, one absent. 13 yes, one absent. 1:16:181 hour, 16 minutes, 18 secondsDoes any commissioner wish to change his up? 13. Yes, one absent. 1:16:241 hour, 16 minutes, 24 secondsSummary report is adopted. Anything else from the finance committee? No, it's not. 1:16:301 hour, 16 minutes, 30 secondsBudget, finance, and human resources committee. 1:16:321 hour, 16 minutes, 32 secondsThank you, Mr. Chairman. We met. The minutes from the meeting are in the packet. We do have 10 budget amendments to review. Um I'm going to group nine of 1:16:411 hour, 16 minutes, 41 secondsthem together and then we'll handle one by itself. So get this started. Uh budget amendment 2630 in the amount of 900,33043. 1:16:511 hour, 16 minutes, 51 secondsThis is for some school grants and approved by their um the school board. 2631 in the amount of $137,425. 1:17:011 hour, 17 minutes, 1 secondThis is to record some sped transportation costs um allocating it uh 1:17:071 hour, 17 minutes, 7 secondsto the appropriate accounts. 2632 in the amount of 40,000. This is a homeland security grant. 2633 in the amount of 1:17:161 hour, 17 minutes, 16 seconds65,000. This is the reclass for medical for um the jail. 2634 in the amount of $3,951. 1:17:251 hour, 17 minutes, 25 secondsThis is to bring budget in line with the grant contract. 1:17:301 hour, 17 minutes, 30 secondsuh 2635 in the amount of 12,000. This is a titling supplement um for Casey's office. 2637 in the amount of $9,000. 1:17:391 hour, 17 minutes, 39 secondsThis is for election workers for the special election in Tennessee uh district 7. 2638 the amount of $1,800. 1:17:481 hour, 17 minutes, 48 secondsThis is a solid waste software billing. 1:17:511 hour, 17 minutes, 51 secondsUm they're having to replace some software. So this is some um cost for to replace that software. And then 2639 in 1:17:581 hour, 17 minutes, 58 secondsthe amount of 100,000 and this is for the safe baby court um that Judge Pucket uh talked to us all about. And I move to 1:18:061 hour, 18 minutes, 6 secondsapprove all these budget amendments as presented. 1:18:121 hour, 18 minutes, 12 secondsCommissioner Gun make sure I got this right. 2630 31 32 33 34 36 or 35 1:18:211 hour, 18 minutes, 21 seconds35 35 37 38 and 39. Correct. Those are the nine. So I have a motion by Commissioner 1:18:291 hour, 18 minutes, 29 secondsGanakus to accept those budget those nine budget resolutions. Second by Commissioner Thomasson. 1:18:351 hour, 18 minutes, 35 secondsAny discussion? [clears throat] Seeing none, roll call. Ron Mayberry. 1:18:431 hour, 18 minutes, 43 secondsYes. Ron Tucket. Yes. Ricky Murray. Yes. Keith Nack. Yes. [clears throat] Deon Picker. Yes. Matthew Barnhill. Yes. Paul Calcott. Yes. F Chester. 1:18:511 hour, 18 minutes, 51 secondsYes. Danny Clark. Yes. Todd Collins. Yes. Wayne Thompson. Yes. Steve. Yes. Dusty. 1:18:571 hour, 18 minutes, 57 secondsYes. [cough and clears throat] 13. Yes. One absent. 1:18:591 hour, 18 minutes, 59 seconds13. Yes. One absent. Does any commissioner wish to change his vote? 13. Yes. One absent. 1:19:071 hour, 19 minutes, 7 secondsThe nine are adopted. Commissioner Gianis. 1:19:091 hour, 19 minutes, 9 secondsBudget amendment 2636 did uh not pass the budget committee. However, I would like to make a motion to approve this 1:19:171 hour, 19 minutes, 17 secondsbudget amendment in the amount of 15,000. This is for um Casey to be able to utilize the open meetings uh software 1:19:261 hour, 19 minutes, 26 secondsas well as the equipment uh for open meetings to help the commissioners bring it into the year of 2025. 1:19:351 hour, 19 minutes, 35 secondsUm I have a motion to approve budget limit 2636 which did not pass the committee um by Commissioner Guanakus 1:19:441 hour, 19 minutes, 44 secondsand a second by Commissioner Jordan. Any discussion on 2636? 1:19:541 hour, 19 minutes, 54 secondsSeeing none, roll call. Rod Mayberry, yes. 1:19:571 hour, 19 minutes, 57 secondsRod Pucket, no. 1:19:591 hour, 19 minutes, 59 secondsRichard Murray, no. 1:20:001 hour, 20 minutesKeith Nash, no. 1:20:021 hour, 20 minutes, 2 secondsDevin Picker, no. 1:20:041 hour, 20 minutes, 4 secondsMatthew Bar, yes. 1:20:071 hour, 20 minutes, 7 secondsPaul Calcott, yes. 1:20:091 hour, 20 minutes, 9 secondsClay Chester, no. 1:20:111 hour, 20 minutes, 11 secondsDanny Clark, yes. 1:20:131 hour, 20 minutes, 13 secondsTodd Collins, yes. Wayne Thomasson. Yes. 1:20:161 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondsSteve Janaka, yes. 1:20:181 hour, 20 minutes, 18 secondsDusty Jordan, yes. Eight. Yes. Five. No. One absent. Eight. Yes. Five. No. One absent. Resol. Excuse me. 1:20:251 hour, 20 minutes, 25 secondsBasic 2636 is adopted. Anything else from the budget committee? That's all [clears throat] I have, Mr. Chairman. 1:20:351 hour, 20 minutes, 35 secondsHealth Foundation 1:20:381 hour, 20 minutes, 38 seconds[clears throat] 1:20:441 hour, 20 minutes, 44 secondsAgricultural Extension Committee. 1:20:501 hour, 20 minutes, 50 secondsAfter uh 40 years of teaching and working with UT extension in this county, I will be retiring come December 1:21:001 hour, 21 minutes31st in case you have not heard. Uh gives me 30 years almost 30 years with 1:21:071 hour, 21 minutes, 7 secondsextension. Um with that said, we had an a committee meeting tonight before this 1:21:131 hour, 21 minutes, 13 secondsmeeting. Um, we hired or they hired [cough and clears throat] two new employees that have gone through um a 1:21:211 hour, 21 minutes, 21 secondssearch and the new family and consumer science agent is Emma Mars from Perry 1:21:301 hour, 21 minutes, 30 secondsCounty and she will start working here FE um January 1 and that's the position 1:21:371 hour, 21 minutes, 37 secondsthat Autumn Vespie held. It's been open for several months, not many applicants. 1:21:431 hour, 21 minutes, 43 secondsWe you a couple times and we found finally found a good candidate and my for each part will be filled by Scott 1:21:521 hour, 21 minutes, 52 secondsReese of Hunt County. Um originally he's working in Murray County [clears throat] and he is transferring in here to do the 1:22:011 hour, 22 minutes, 1 second4 program starting January 1. As far as my county director duties, Amanda 1:22:091 hour, 22 minutes, 9 secondsMatheni, the county director in Perry County, will fill that position. She 1:22:151 hour, 22 minutes, 15 secondswill work between both counties and she will work with the budget. Um I told her 1:22:221 hour, 22 minutes, 22 secondsI'd be glad to to work with her and I know our a community chamber um [clears throat] commissioners will but 1:22:301 hour, 22 minutes, 30 secondsshe will be attending county commissioner meetings and giving those reports starting January 1. I've enjoyed 1:22:381 hour, 22 minutes, 38 secondsit but I will still be here in Hickman County. Thank you as 1:22:461 hour, 22 minutes, 46 seconds[applause] 1:22:531 hour, 22 minutes, 53 secondspublic records committee. Economic and community development. 1:23:001 hour, 23 minutesThank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, just a few quick updates, only four points tonight. 1:23:061 hour, 23 minutes, 6 secondsWe have officially secured the $100,000 broadband ready communities grant for 1:23:141 hour, 23 minutes, 14 secondsour [clears throat] free Wi-Fi project on the square and at the act building. 1:23:191 hour, 23 minutes, 19 secondsThat is very good news learned this week. So in the coming weeks we'll meet with our amazing partners. We have 1:23:251 hour, 23 minutes, 25 secondschamber Mary Lewis of course um Main Street and the AC rebellion new person. 1:23:321 hour, 23 minutes, 32 secondsThank you Donna for your uh help up until now. So, we'll be working on what the scope of that project will look like. That's $100,000. Doesn't mean 1:23:401 hour, 23 minutes, 40 secondsit'll be free by five and square and advant forever, but understanding what we can get for that amount of money. 1:23:461 hour, 23 minutes, 46 secondsCould it be two or three years money through Friday on the weekend? Who knows? We'll be working through the scope of that project. That is [clears throat] very good news. 1:23:531 hour, 23 minutes, 53 secondsUnfortunately, we were not awarded the $50,000 round two three star grant that we made 1:24:001 hour, 24 minutesa run for. I made a run for additional support and funding for our continued land use plan efforts. The state said 1:24:081 hour, 24 minutes, 8 secondsthey had more high priority projects and to talk to them next year during round three. So, we'll probably re um approach 1:24:161 hour, 24 minutes, 16 secondsand maybe make a few changes on our application to see if u if support is still a during round three. 1:24:251 hour, 24 minutes, 25 secondsThird, we had our end of year and our final year end joint economic development um board meeting. It was 1:24:341 hour, 24 minutes, 34 secondsvery well attended. We had a guest speaker. We had Chris Clark, founder and president of Thirdday Beverage to share 1:24:431 hour, 24 minutes, 43 secondshis plan and future growth strategies and his future for vision for his company uh here in Hitman County. Very 1:24:501 hour, 24 minutes, 50 secondsintriguing, captivating. We appreciate the time he gave us to share his insights and plans for his uh business growth here in Hait. And finally, calendar [clears throat] reminder. 1:25:021 hour, 25 minutes, 2 secondsThis is for the pilot and tiff train. I think is what you were talking about um uh Claude the training that planning 1:25:091 hour, 25 minutes, 9 secondscommission is going to actually uh support host sponsor if you will. We decided there were so many people who 1:25:171 hour, 25 minutes, 17 secondswere interested and needed training on pilot uh which is payment in lie of taxes. It's an incentive that you give businesses uh when you're looking to do 1:25:261 hour, 25 minutes, 26 secondsbusiness attraction. Uh you try to find ways uh to bring them in and pilots often do that but people don't really 1:25:331 hour, 25 minutes, 33 secondsunderstand the intricacies of what that is. And um so the planning commission has decided to offer a countywide 1:25:411 hour, 25 minutes, 41 secondsprogram for organizations that this makes sense for um for this class. It's going to be Tuesday, December 9th at the 1:25:511 hour, 25 minutes, 51 secondsEOCC building [clears throat] um at 6:00 because this is a it's an hour and a half training. Uh, at 6:00 we 1:25:591 hour, 25 minutes, 59 secondshave a hot buffet that's going to be served and catered. And at 6:30, our facilitator, Tom Trent, attorney Tom 1:26:061 hour, 26 minutes, 6 secondsTrent, out of Nashville. Apparently, he's a prolific writer of the pilot rules for the state of Tennessee. He'll be delivering that class. He'll hit the 1:26:151 hour, 26 minutes, 15 secondsstage at 6:30. We'll probably go an hour and a half at the EOC. So if you're planning to attend commissioners, 1:26:231 hour, 26 minutes, 23 secondsalderman, city, IUB, county IUB, planning, zoning, any other organization who's interested in understanding the 1:26:311 hour, 26 minutes, 31 secondsdetails and the complexities of what pilot is and when to offer and will not do it. Um, please give me a call or RSVP. I need a good number on catering. 1:26:421 hour, 26 minutes, 42 secondsOkay. Uh, any questions for any of this, please feel free to call me at any time. 1:26:461 hour, 26 minutes, 46 secondsAnd chair, that's all I have. Do you What was that date again? At time it is Tuesday, December 9th at 6:00 p.m. 1:26:551 hour, 26 minutes, 55 secondsthe buffet opens at the EOC. Pete said we can do it on on Tuesday, but at 6:30 because we 1:27:031 hour, 27 minutes, 3 secondsgot to get started. Attorney Tom Trent will hit the stage. Thank you. 1:27:081 hour, 27 minutes, 8 secondsThank you. industrial board, opioid settlement committee. 1:27:171 hour, 27 minutes, 17 seconds[clears throat] We met um the opioid board had some um audits they were doing for the money that was distributed 1:27:261 hour, 27 minutes, 26 secondspreviously. Um so we're in the process of doing that. We still got two or three organizations that we have to do the next meeting which is coming up. 1:27:371 hour, 27 minutes, 37 secondsAnimal Shelter Advisory Board, 1:27:461 hour, 27 minutes, 46 secondsLibrary Board, other uh any other committee or board of works. 1:27:571 hour, 27 minutes, 57 secondsI think you got beer on me. 1:27:591 hour, 27 minutes, 59 seconds[cough and clears throat] 1:28:041 hour, 28 minutes, 4 secondsI apologize. beer board. 1:28:071 hour, 28 minutes, 7 secondsBeer board met during recess of the budget committee and uh approved an application from AK Market 1:28:171 hour, 28 minutes, 17 secondson uh 9620 Highway 46 in Apple. And that was all the business we had. That's all I've got. Anybody got any questions? 1:28:261 hour, 28 minutes, 26 secondsAny questions for the peer board? 1:28:301 hour, 28 minutes, 30 secondsThe chair would entertain a motion for all these minutes to be approved and put in our packet. 1:28:391 hour, 28 minutes, 39 secondsI'm sorry, I overlooked one. Board of zoning appeals. 1:28:431 hour, 28 minutes, 43 secondsWe had a meeting and the minutes should be in the packet. I'll be glad to answer any questions. Any questions for Eric with the BCA. 1:28:531 hour, 28 minutes, 53 secondsNow, the chair has entertain motion to have it part of the packet. Motion by Commissioner Barnhill. Second by Commissioner Thomasson. All those in favor say I. 1:29:031 hour, 29 minutes, 3 secondsAll opposed. Eyes have it. 1:29:071 hour, 29 minutes, 7 secondsUm, commissioners, talk to me uh after this meeting or tomorrow and we'll determine 1:29:151 hour, 29 minutes, 15 secondshow many of these uh committees are going to end up meeting and we'll revise this uh list and try to get that out. 1:29:221 hour, 29 minutes, 22 secondsUm, and determine based on the business what where we're going to be doing. 1:29:301 hour, 29 minutes, 30 secondsAt this time, we're going to take a 10-minute break and we'll resume uh with unfinished business. 1:29:401 hour, 29 minutes, 40 secondsThat's a brilliant brand. 1:29:561 hour, 29 minutes, 56 secondsYeah. 1:30:011 hour, 30 minutes, 1 secondI mean, I like I like the tail. 1:38:471 hour, 38 minutes, 47 secondsJust that up. 1:39:041 hour, 39 minutes, 4 secondsfrom you or probably just pretty great. 1:39:251 hour, 39 minutes, 25 secondsI wouldn't know. 1:39:431 hour, 39 minutes, 43 secondsgoing to Illinois. 1:39:461 hour, 39 minutes, 46 secondsI had a break to 1:40:111 hour, 40 minutes, 11 secondsNo, dude. She told me 1:40:391 hour, 40 minutes, 39 secondsover there. 1:40:421 hour, 40 minutes, 42 secondsLet me see where he came out. Colorado. 1:40:521 hour, 40 minutes, 52 secondsThat's beautiful. 1:41:311 hour, 41 minutes, 31 secondsI have your attention. Thank you. 1:41:361 hour, 41 minutes, 36 secondsThe next item is under unfinished business is resolution 2532 reszoning 1:41:421 hour, 41 minutes, 42 secondsproperty located at 9231 Bates Trail. Um this uh has been discussed a bit before. 1:41:521 hour, 41 minutes, 52 secondsI had several comments on it. Um [clears throat] each I think each of the 1:41:581 hour, 41 minutes, 58 secondscommissioners received uh letters from [clears throat] some legal folks in regards to this matter. Um and since we 1:42:081 hour, 42 minutes, 8 secondshad a previous issue with this resulted in lawsuit that was ultimately dismissed. Um I felt like it was 1:42:151 hour, 42 minutes, 15 secondsincumbent upon us to uh hear from our county attorney in regards to the things that were put forth in that letter. So 1:42:241 hour, 42 minutes, 24 secondswithout the [laughter] county attorney Dan Memorial. Thank you, Chairman. Um so all of you have heard 1:42:311 hour, 42 minutes, 31 secondsarguments from Lily Page and her attorney in support of reszoning the 1:42:371 hour, 42 minutes, 37 secondsproperty at 9231 Bates Trail in La. And we've all received uh Miss Paige's email 1:42:451 hour, 42 minutes, 45 secondscommunication dated November the 3 in which she advances these arguments in more detail. 1:42:531 hour, 42 minutes, 53 secondsUh, Miss M Miss Paige and her attorney would like you to believe that you're required by law to approve her 1:43:001 hour, 43 minutesapplication since it has been approved and recommended by the Hickman County Planning Commission. 1:43:071 hour, 43 minutes, 7 secondsThat is not the case. As county attorney, I want you to know that Hickman County Commissioners, as Hickman 1:43:151 hour, 43 minutes, 15 secondsCounty Commissioners, you have broad discretion in considering the application of Miss Page to resone her 1:43:221 hour, 43 minutes, 22 secondsproperty uh from A1 to R1. Under Tennessee state law, county commissioners have broad discretion to 1:43:301 hour, 43 minutes, 30 secondsdeny applications for resoning so long as their decision to deny has a rational 1:43:371 hour, 43 minutes, 37 secondsbasis. In Cunningham versus Bedford County, which was a 2018 decision of the 1:43:441 hour, 43 minutes, 44 secondsTennessee Court of Appeals of Nashville, the court found that the Bedford County Commission acted lawfully in denying the 1:43:531 hour, 43 minutes, 53 secondspetitioner's application for resoning [clears throat] of his property from residential to commercial. The court 1:44:001 hour, 44 minutesstated that denial of Mr. Cunningham's application by Bedford County was not arbitrary and capriccious because 1:44:081 hour, 44 minutes, 8 secondscommunity opposition is a rational basis for denial. The court went on to say that legislators, [clears throat] 1:44:171 hour, 44 minutes, 17 secondsit went on to say legislators do what legislators do. They listen to their constituents. They test the wind. They 1:44:261 hour, 44 minutes, 26 secondstry to please as many people as possible consistent with the constitution and good conscience 1:44:351 hour, 44 minutes, 35 secondsand they are not to be condemned for doing so. That is their job. So the bottom line is it is appropriate for 1:44:441 hour, 44 minutes, 44 secondscommissioners to consider the views of their constituents uh when deciding on a resoning resolution. The county 1:44:521 hour, 44 minutes, 52 secondscommission is not bound by the recommendation of the Hampton County Planning Commission and may approve or 1:44:591 hour, 44 minutes, 59 secondsdeny a resoning application so long as there is a rational basis for doing so. 1:45:061 hour, 45 minutes, 6 secondsAnd such rational basis may be based on community opposition to the resoning application. 1:45:151 hour, 45 minutes, 15 secondsAnd if anybody has any questions beyond that, I'm happy to answer. Does anyone have any questions for the county attorney? 1:45:241 hour, 45 minutes, 24 secondsI'm sorry, you're not recognized. You're not part of this body. Thank you. Does any commissioner have questions for 1:45:311 hour, 45 minutes, 31 seconds[clears throat] 1:45:311 hour, 45 minutes, 31 secondscounty attorney? 1:45:341 hour, 45 minutes, 34 secondsThank you. Thank you. We have before you resolution 2532. The sponsors out of the planning commission are [clears throat] Commissioner Clark and Commissioner 1:45:411 hour, 45 minutes, 41 secondsColott. Does anyone want to speak to this matter? 1:45:461 hour, 45 minutes, 46 secondsU my vote will be no different than it was a couple months ago. I can't see anything. There's no new information. 1:45:531 hour, 45 minutes, 53 secondsNothing's changed. Public opposition [snorts] has not dwindled. If anything gets increased, [clears throat] 1:46:011 hour, 46 minutes, 1 secondI'm a sponsor on it because I'm on the planning committee, not because any other comments on resolution 2532. 1:46:121 hour, 46 minutes, 12 secondsSeeing none, roll call. Ron Mayberry. pass. 1:46:161 hour, 46 minutes, 16 secondsRon Pucket, yes. 1:46:181 hour, 46 minutes, 18 secondsRicky Murray, yes. 1:46:201 hour, 46 minutes, 20 secondsKeith Nash, no. 1:46:211 hour, 46 minutes, 21 secondsDevin Picker, yes. 1:46:231 hour, 46 minutes, 23 secondsMatthew Barnhill, yes. 1:46:241 hour, 46 minutes, 24 secondsPaul Kott, no. 1:46:261 hour, 46 minutes, 26 secondsClay Chester, yes. 1:46:281 hour, 46 minutes, 28 secondsDanny Clark, no. 1:46:291 hour, 46 minutes, 29 secondsTodd Collins, no. 1:46:311 hour, 46 minutes, 31 secondsWayne Thompson, yes. 1:46:331 hour, 46 minutes, 33 secondsSteve Janaka, no. 1:46:361 hour, 46 minutes, 36 secondsDusty Jordan, no. 1:46:401 hour, 46 minutes, 40 secondsOne, let's see. Six yes, six no. One pass, one absent. Six. Yes. Six. No. One pass, one absent. The resolution is not adopted. 1:46:501 hour, 46 minutes, 50 secondsOh, sorry. The commission wants to change his or her vote. No, one pass. Six yes. Six no, one pass, one absent. 1:47:001 hour, 47 minutesResolution is not agreed to. The next item is resolution 2534 1:47:081 hour, 47 minutes, 8 secondsreszoning property located at on Highway 100 in Monaco [clears throat] from A1 agriculture to R1 suburban residential. 1:47:181 hour, 47 minutes, 18 secondsThe sponsors of this resolution are Commissioner Clark and Commissioner Calcott. Do either of you wish to speak to this matter? 1:47:291 hour, 47 minutes, 29 seconds[clears throat] 1:47:291 hour, 47 minutes, 29 secondsThis first hearing on this one, this first hearing on this, this will be brought back. Does any commissioner wish to have any discussion on this during the first hearing? 1:47:411 hour, 47 minutes, 41 secondsWe'll have that in fact in January. And the the applicants are aware that uh 1:47:501 hour, 47 minutes, 50 secondslet me back up. The applicants are under the impression that there will not be a decent information. Um that's still yet to be determined 1:47:581 hour, 47 minutes, 58 secondsbut if not it will be heard at the January meeting. The next item is resolution 2535. 1:48:061 hour, 48 minutes, 6 seconds[laughter] 1:48:081 hour, 48 minutes, 8 secondsUh it is sponsored by commissioner Calcott and Commissioner Herod who is not here tonight with uh another commissioner commissioner Chester who's going to sign on. 1:48:191 hour, 48 minutes, 19 seconds[clears throat] 1:48:201 hour, 48 minutes, 20 secondsAnd this is to add a road to the official county road list. Efficient county, Tennessee. 1:48:261 hour, 48 minutes, 26 secondsUm, Commissioner Calp, would you like to speak to this? 1:48:291 hour, 48 minutes, 29 secondsYes. Uh, very short road goes to a cemetery. There's been some confusion in the past about if it was a county road 1:48:371 hour, 48 minutes, 37 secondsor not a county road. The skeletons um who owned all the way around the road, they're in favor of this. to every ones that brought it to the road commission 1:48:471 hour, 48 minutes, 47 secondsand they're here tonight and [clears throat] it went through the road commission and 1:48:531 hour, 48 minutes, 53 secondsI urge you to support it. Anybody else wish [clears throat] to speak to resolution 2535? 1:49:011 hour, 49 minutes, 1 secondSeeing none, roll call vote. Ryan Mayberry, yes. Ron Pucket, yes. Rick Murder, yes. Keith Nash, yes. Devin Picker, yes. 1:49:091 hour, 49 minutes, 9 secondsMatthew Bar, Paul, yes. Chester, yes. Danny Clark, yes. Todd Collins, yes. Wayne Collison, yes. 1:49:171 hour, 49 minutes, 17 secondsSteve, yes. Dusty George, yes. 13. Yes. One. 13. Yes. One absent. 1:49:251 hour, 49 minutes, 25 seconds13. Yes. One absent. 1:49:271 hour, 49 minutes, 27 secondsResolution 2535 is adopted. 1:49:311 hour, 49 minutes, 31 secondsNext item is consideration hidden [clears throat] county land use plan. 1:49:351 hour, 49 minutes, 35 secondsUm, so let's make sure we recap and understand where we're going with that. 1:49:411 hour, 49 minutes, 41 secondsUm, we received this from the planning and zoning with their approval. 1:49:481 hour, 49 minutes, 48 secondsIt was on the agenda in October for us to have a discussion about and there was some discussion in October. 1:49:571 hour, 49 minutes, 57 secondsSubject to that, we had a work session last Monday night which [clears throat] there was a lot more discussion and this week we're here. Uh, it's on the table 1:50:061 hour, 50 minutes, 6 secondsfor you. Look at it. We can take a look at your edits. anybody wants. We can do whatever anybody wants to at this at 1:50:121 hour, 50 minutes, 12 secondsthis point. Um when it becomes clear that there's eight commissioners, at least eight commissioners who's going to 1:50:201 hour, 50 minutes, 20 secondsapprove of this of whatever the plan may be. 1:50:261 hour, 50 minutes, 26 secondsThen we'll take that document that's been edited, been amended, and we'll send it back to Gresman Smith for them 1:50:331 hour, 50 minutes, 33 secondsto put the finishing touches on this, if you will. Um so that then we'll have a 1:50:411 hour, 50 minutes, 41 secondsdocument that will have been heard by the planning and zoning and t [clears throat] excuse me tentatively approved by the by this body. 1:50:501 hour, 50 minutes, 50 secondsIt'll come back before this body with a resolution that will say that that's going to be accepted as the new land use plan. 1:51:001 hour, 51 minutesNow I'm not going to write that resolution until I know what dates to put on it and and that sort of thing. So there's, you know, there's I don't want 1:51:081 hour, 51 minutes, 8 secondsto sit there and continually rewrite this. So there needs to be a document that at least we're we're confident in 1:51:151 hour, 51 minutes, 15 secondsgarers the support of the majority prior to sending it back to Gresham Smith. And then after it comes back, Congressional 1:51:231 hour, 51 minutes, 23 secondsSmith, it will be voted on with the resolution at the next convenient time for this body to meet, which more than likely is 1:51:301 hour, 51 minutes, 30 secondsnot going to be December, but uh so I just want to make sure everybody understands the path forward uh as we 1:51:371 hour, 51 minutes, 37 secondsmove forward. And so at this time, we have the the the land use plan is is on the table and we'll entertain motions to 1:51:451 hour, 51 minutes, 45 secondsdo something with it. Commissioner Gian, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion 1:51:521 hour, 51 minutes, 52 secondsuh to be able to change some wording that's in the document. I've handed out um 11 pages uh with some adjustments to 1:52:011 hour, 52 minutes, 1 secondthe wording. In essence, basically, this wording removes all um mention of 1:52:081 hour, 52 minutes, 8 secondsacreage in the document. Uh does everybody have a copy of that before I proceed all the commission? 1:52:231 hour, 52 minutes, 23 secondsOh, you always want to play that. 1:52:381 hour, 52 minutes, 38 secondsI'll go through those adjustments, page by page. 1:52:421 hour, 52 minutes, 42 secondsAnd I did put page numbers at the bottom of what I handed out. 1:52:481 hour, 52 minutes, 48 secondsThere's 11 pages total. On page number one, which references page 28 of the 1:52:551 hour, 52 minutes, 55 secondsland use plan, remove all the words in parenthesis. So remove typical density of one unit per 3 to 15 acres. Remove that completely. 1:53:061 hour, 53 minutes, 6 secondsPage two, referencing page 29 of the document, remove the greater than or equal to one acre and remove the typical density of one unit per acre. 1:53:181 hour, 53 minutes, 18 secondsWhat I tried to do was get a screenshot of what the document was at the top and try to put the adjustments at the bottom. [clears throat] 1:53:271 hour, 53 minutes, 27 secondsPage three, uh, which references page 30 of the land use plan, remove the 0.5 1:53:341 hour, 53 minutes, 34 secondsacre lot sizes in parenthesis and the 1 acre lot sizes in parenthesis and also remove the typical density of one unit 1:53:421 hour, 53 minutes, 42 secondsper.5 to 1 acre. 1:53:471 hour, 53 minutes, 47 secondsPage four, which references page 31 of the land use plan. Remove in parentheses 1:53:541 hour, 53 minutes, 54 secondsone unit per half acre and remove the typical density of one unit per half acre or less. 1:54:031 hour, 54 minutes, 3 secondsPage five, which references page 32 of the land use plan, remove the typical density of one unit per half acre to 1 acre. 1:54:141 hour, 54 minutes, 14 secondson page 32. 1:54:171 hour, 54 minutes, 17 secondsPage six, which references page 33 of the land use plan, remove the typical density of one unit per quarter acre or less. 1:54:281 hour, 54 minutes, 28 secondsPage seven, which references page 39 of the land use plan and the section where it says agriculture preservation, 1:54:371 hour, 54 minutes, 37 secondsit shall be stated that it it will be A1 and this place type support agriculture development. A1 allows lots as small as 1:54:461 hour, 54 minutes, 46 secondsone acre. This zoning would be low density with a mix of agricultural uses in the rural places rewarded to state. 1:54:541 hour, 54 minutes, 54 secondsA1 and rural places are similar in visual and land use character but have slightly higher development density. 1:55:021 hour, 55 minutes, 2 secondsThis zoning district is generally compatible to be restructured into any of the nine future land use place types due to its relatively undeveloped nature 1:55:101 hour, 55 minutes, 10 secondsand large block [clears throat] size. so long as specific utility permitted use and lot size requirements are accounted 1:55:171 hour, 55 minutes, 17 secondsfor during the resoning process. So that that worded that verbiage would replace both those sections of agricultural 1:55:251 hour, 55 minutes, 25 secondspreservation and rural places on page 39. 1:55:301 hour, 55 minutes, 30 secondspage eight, which references uh page 40 of the uh uh the growth plan, 1:55:381 hour, 55 minutes, 38 secondsland use plan, I'm sorry. Um the amendment would be in the residential growth. R1 and this place type both 1:55:451 hour, 55 minutes, 45 secondssupport low to medium density development and focus on single family development or duplexes. However, R1 currently allows higher density 1:55:531 hour, 55 minutes, 53 secondsdevelopment with lots being as small as 15,000 square ft. Uh whereas residential in the town residential it would be 1:56:011 hour, 56 minutes, 1 secondrestated to say R1 and this place type both support medium density development. 1:56:061 hour, 56 minutes, 6 secondsHowever, town residential place types also aim for higher density development including town homes and multi- family residences. 1:56:141 hour, 56 minutes, 14 secondsR1 can be resoneed to serve town residential purposes provided that public sewer system or decentralized hybrid uh septic system requirements are met. 1:56:251 hour, 56 minutes, 25 secondsSome R1 zones may be compatible with rural places and agricultural preservation place types provided the R1 lots meet the development density and 1:56:331 hour, 56 minutes, 33 secondsprimary use of criteria of these place types. In the town residential, it'll state the R2 zoning district and town 1:56:401 hour, 56 minutes, 40 secondsresidential place type both aim for medium to medium residential [clears throat] development. The R2 zoning district requires public sewer 1:56:481 hour, 56 minutes, 48 secondssystems while the in the town residential place type requires public sewer systems or decentralized hybrid 1:56:551 hour, 56 minutes, 55 secondsseptic systems. Some R2 lots may be compatible residential place type as long as the R2 lots meet the minim 1:57:041 hour, 57 minutes, 4 secondsminimum development density and primary use requirements of the residential growth place type. And in the community 1:57:101 hour, 57 minutes, 10 secondscommercial, it it states the C1 zoning district and community commercial place types are predominantly commercial areas 1:57:191 hour, 57 minutes, 19 secondswhich generally follow major transportation corridors. The C1 zoning district does not require public sewer 1:57:261 hour, 57 minutes, 26 secondssystems on all lots and the community commercial place type calls for public sewer or decentralized hybrid septic 1:57:331 hour, 57 minutes, 33 secondssystems. Updates to C1 partial sewer septic systems may be needed. C1 zoning district. Land area requirements are 1:57:411 hour, 57 minutes, 41 secondsgenerally compatible with community commercial place type, but attention may be required for any residential units 1:57:491 hour, 57 minutes, 49 secondsplaced on these parcels. C1 parcels may be compatible with road crossroads and interchange area development place types 1:57:561 hour, 57 minutes, 56 secondsas long as the parcels meet minimum lot size, public utility, and permitted use criteria of these place types. The 1:58:041 hour, 58 minutes, 4 secondsgeneral character of existing C1 districts may be currently developed for higher intensity use than these place types call for and special consideration 1:58:131 hour, 58 minutes, 13 secondsmust be given to use type and intensity in these areas. And then referencing 1:58:191 hour, 58 minutes, 19 secondspage 10 which references page uh 41 of the land use plan 1:58:271 hour, 58 minutes, 27 secondsuh the amendment would be community commercial. the it would be restated to say the Z2 uh the the C2 zoning district 1:58:371 hour, 58 minutes, 37 secondsand community commercial place types are predominantly commercial areas. C2 zones are generally developed for less intensive commercial use. So upskilling 1:58:451 hour, 58 minutes, 45 secondsdevelopment to match community commercial areas land use vision may be required. The C2 zoning district does not require public s uh sewer systems on 1:58:541 hour, 58 minutes, 54 secondsall lots while the community commercial place type calls for public sewer or decentralized hybrid systems. C2 zoning 1:59:011 hour, 59 minutes, 1 seconddistrict land area requirements are generally compatible with a community commercial place type. The C2 zoning district is partially uh compatible with 1:59:101 hour, 59 minutes, 10 secondsthe industrial royal crossroads and interchange area development place types. The lower density and intensity 1:59:171 hour, 59 minutes, 17 secondsof uh C2 zone developments may make these areas particularly suitable for 1:59:241 hour, 59 minutes, 24 secondsrepurposing into rural crossroads and interchange area development place types which follow similar guidelines in terms of development intensity and preferred 1:59:321 hour, 59 minutes, 32 secondsland use. In some instances, C2 zoning districts may be repurposed for light industrial use if lot size, utility, and 1:59:391 hour, 59 minutes, 39 secondsdevelopment density requirements are met. Those are the uh amendments. I'd like to make a motion put forth in the spot. 1:59:481 hour, 59 minutes, 48 secondsUm have a motion by Commissioner Guianos to [clears throat] accept these amendments. Um we'll need a second and 1:59:551 hour, 59 minutes, 55 secondsthen I would suggest that we start the discussion of that after that. Second. Commissioner Jordan, you okay? 2:00:022 hours, 2 secondsCommissioner Jordan second that. So uh that was tremendous amount of work. 2:00:092 hours, 9 secondsThank you very much to get that all done. Um, kind of like drinking from a fire hose right that moment. So, uh, 2:00:172 hours, 17 secondscommissioners, did anyone have any questions about the uh these changes that have been uh 2:00:252 hours, 25 secondssupported? [clears throat] 2:00:282 hours, 28 seconds[cough] 2:00:292 hours, 29 secondsI I would like to just make a statement. 2:00:302 hours, 30 secondsI was basically tried to remove all the language except for what is already current law. A1 [clears throat] currently has one acre. That's that's 2:00:392 hours, 39 secondswhy I left that part in there and and it should be left in there in my opinion. 2:00:422 hours, 42 secondsUm, you know, I don't think that we should we should change that. 2:00:482 hours, 48 secondsCommissioner Collins, I was prepared to come in tonight and I've got a note for this and it's a lot of work and I appreciate that that we 2:00:572 hours, 57 secondspostpone using or even considering it future land use and continue with our old 2:01:042 hours, 1 minute, 4 secondsplan until this type of information can be put forward 2:01:132 hours, 1 minute, 13 secondsand then brought back to us and an opportunity to look at it. that can't be done before January. 2:01:192 hours, 1 minute, 19 secondsUm, I have a list and be glad to give them to you. Uh, I support some of what you said because I had a 2:01:272 hours, 1 minute, 27 secondschance to hear some of the things that is on my notes. 2:01:302 hours, 1 minute, 30 secondsBut my suggestion is tonight that we abandon the push for this new land use 2:01:382 hours, 1 minute, 38 secondsand continue with the thought of using the one that we have until everything is clear. And that is not a month or two away. 2:01:482 hours, 1 minute, 48 secondsThat's that's thought we need to have. 2:01:502 hours, 1 minute, 50 secondsSo I I don't even know [clears throat] if we if we push through what you are asking for. We need to make sure that we 2:01:582 hours, 1 minute, 58 secondsunderstand that this is not just do this and then in January we bring this right back before we have a chance to make sure that this meets all the criteria that we were asked to address. 2:02:152 hours, 2 minutes, 15 secondsI'm I'm done with that. That was my fault. 2:02:182 hours, 2 minutes, 18 secondsThe uh first off, just as a basis of of understanding, until a new land use plan [clears throat] is adopted, the old land 2:02:272 hours, 2 minutes, 27 secondsuse plan is in effect, it will not change. 2:02:302 hours, 2 minutes, 30 secondsYeah. Um then uh so there there's a motion and a second on the floor uh for 2:02:382 hours, 2 minutes, 38 secondsthe changes that Commissioner Gianakus has brought forward. Um again I'm still looking for the will of 2:02:452 hours, 2 minutes, 45 secondsthe body and to your I mean and I'm just trying to help the body search its way forward. I know that was block of 2:02:522 hours, 2 minutes, 52 secondsdrinking. That's a lot and commissioners may not be have to sit that thing side by side and do a little studying and I 2:03:002 hours, 3 minutesthink we you know we'll make those amendments uh available to the public. 2:03:052 hours, 3 minutes, 5 secondsSo, you know, an option would be to now that these are these amendments and these 2:03:122 hours, 3 minutes, 12 secondschanges have been here, if we don't want to try to vote on that, is to table the 2:03:182 hours, 3 minutes, 18 secondsmotion to amend and then let everybody look at it and come back in here in January, December 2:03:272 hours, 3 minutes, 27 secondsslash January, uh, and take that back up. That would be another option. But we have a motion in a second 2:03:362 hours, 3 minutes, 36 secondson the floor. And for it to be uh in a proper way to dispense it, [clears throat] it either a has to be 2:03:432 hours, 3 minutes, 43 secondswithdrawn or b to be a motion to table and we move on. Am I correct, Parliamentarian? Yes. Okay. 2:03:502 hours, 3 minutes, 50 secondsYou will withdraw it. 2:03:522 hours, 3 minutes, 52 secondsI'd prefer not to. I I I would I'd prefer [clears throat] that we vote on it and and put it in into the plan, put 2:03:592 hours, 3 minutes, 59 secondsit back out to the public, and then come back and vote on vote on the overall uh plan. 2:04:062 hours, 4 minutes, 6 secondsI'd like to make a motion that we table this to the next meeting. 2:04:102 hours, 4 minutes, 10 secondsHave a motion to table. Um is there a second? Second by Commissioner Collins. 2:04:192 hours, 4 minutes, 19 secondsThere is no discussion on a motion to table. So if you vote in affirmative for this, we will cease discussion on this 2:04:272 hours, 4 minutes, 27 secondsuntil January, excuse me, until [clears throat] our next meeting, which may either be December or January. 2:04:372 hours, 4 minutes, 37 secondsTo motion to table to the amendment. Yeah. 2:04:432 hours, 4 minutes, 43 secondsMaking sure I'm looking everybody that everybody understands. Roll call up. 2:04:502 hours, 4 minutes, 50 secondsRonberry. Yes. Ron Pucket. No. Ricky Murray. Yes. Keith Nash. Yes. Devin Picker. 2:04:582 hours, 4 minutes, 58 secondsNo. Matthew Barham. No. Paul Calakott. Yes. Clay Chester. Yes. Danny Clark. 2:05:072 hours, 5 minutes, 7 secondsYes. Todd Collins. Yes. Wayne Thompson? Yes. Steve Janaka? No. Dusty Jordan? 2:05:142 hours, 5 minutes, 14 secondsNo. Eight. Yes. Five. No. One absent. 2:05:192 hours, 5 minutes, 19 secondsEight. Yes. Five. No. one absent. The motion to table the amendment is approved. I'm going to have this if it's 2:05:262 hours, 5 minutes, 26 secondsokay with you, Commissioner. I didn't write I I put little one little scribble mark on this. Do you have a clean copy? I do. I can email you or I'll try. 2:05:332 hours, 5 minutes, 33 secondsWell, okay. Yeah, that way I'll make sure that it gets on the county website tomorrow. 2:05:392 hours, 5 minutes, 39 secondsMake sure everybody can look at that. Okay. 2:05:432 hours, 5 minutes, 43 secondsSo, that motion to table. Uh we can take up other business in regards to the the land use plan or we can uh the chair would entertain a motion to adjurnn. 2:05:552 hours, 5 minutes, 55 secondsMotion to I have a motion to adjurnn by commissioner Barnhill. Is there a second? 2:06:002 hours, 6 minutesCommissioner Chester second. Thank you very much. 2:06:072 hours, 6 minutes, 7 seconds[laughter] 2:06:082 hours, 6 minutes, 8 secondsWe need some signatures. 2:06:402 hours, 6 minutes, 40 secondsThat's why I did try to Sync to video time