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5/4/2026 Health Safety and Properties Committee Audio - Hickman County, TN
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1:041 minute, 4 secondsGuess I'll call the role.
1:071 minute, 7 secondsDusty Jordan here.
1:101 minute, 10 secondsSteve Gio here.
1:121 minute, 12 secondsKeith Nash here. Devin Pickard here.
1:191 minute, 19 secondsMayberry here. Jim Har here. Ricky Murray here. Danny Clark is here.
1:271 minute, 27 secondsAll others are absent.
1:331 minute, 33 secondsFirst order of business, approval of agenda. It was emailed out to you. Motion to approve. Motion by Mr. Mayberry, seconded by Mr.
1:401 minute, 40 secondsGianus. All those in favor of the agenda say I. I.
1:461 minute, 46 secondsDid anybody sign up for the public comment? You have one, sir.
1:531 minute, 53 secondsNo, you don't, sir. It says health and safety. Sorry.
2:032 minutes, 3 secondsThank you.
2:052 minutes, 5 secondsNext item on the agenda is adopted of a minute from last meeting by Commissioner Jordan. Second by
2:132 minutes, 13 secondsCommissioner Per. All those in favor of approving the minutes say I opposed.
2:202 minutes, 20 secondsMotion carries. It gets us to the monthly reports. Mr. Lav goods not here kind of early in the month. They may not have anything. Did you get yours?
2:312 minutes, 31 secondsYou have your financial stuff. Sheriff,
2:342 minutes, 34 secondsnot that you not that you're going to tell us anything. It's just Allan said he was going to be here.
2:432 minutes, 43 secondsWe can get back to him if he if he shows up.
2:482 minutes, 48 secondsDo you have anything? everything that I have in my package.
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsMr.
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsDo you have anything, Mr. Chair?
3:143 minutes, 14 secondsNo, sir. I did not get a chance to get my report sent out. I don't really have anything. We do have 36 in the jail
3:203 minutes, 20 secondsright now. So, we are answer
3:423 minutes, 42 secondsthat brings us to you on the agenda. Did everybody get the the email for what
3:493 minutes, 49 secondsMr. Warden going to talk about Thank you for allowing me to be here,
4:014 minutes, 1 secondchairman and commissioners. Uh this is a followup to our proposal for the Hickman County um management of Hickman County A
4:114 minutes, 11 secondsPavilion under HCA which is joining uh combining the National Banana Pudding
4:174 minutes, 17 secondsFestival and agon Arts Foundation under the umbrella under this uh this proposal. Uh this is
4:264 minutes, 26 secondsa little bit of a narrative of where we're at and and why we're here, how we got here, I guess. Uh last meeting there
4:354 minutes, 35 secondswas some u reservations about the facility and why the facility would be
4:424 minutes, 42 secondsan ideal place for events that draw in tourism. Uh so with the first uh line
4:494 minutes, 49 secondsitem, the mission statement of Hickman County attractions is to organize local volunteers to produce events that attract tourists to Hickman County,
4:574 minutes, 57 secondsTennessee as a means of increasing the opportunities and quality of life for its citizens. This is HDA's mission
5:045 minutes, 4 secondsstatement. Our goal is simple but powerful and that we use regional tourism as a tool to increase opportunities and the quality of life
5:125 minutes, 12 secondsfor the citizens. Everything we do serves that purpose.
5:185 minutes, 18 secondsUm, section two, the performance and scale of the 2025 National Banana Pudding Festival uses the slide deck
5:265 minutes, 26 secondsthat I presented in there. Uh, this is what we presented to at the chamber uh
5:335 minutes, 33 secondstourism meeting that happened last uh October where we made our announcements
5:385 minutes, 38 secondsof the festival event. Uh in 2025 we had 105 vendors utilizing n our local
5:475 minutes, 47 secondsvendors but also regional vendors make an impact in the local business community. Uh we used close to 350
5:545 minutes, 54 secondsvolunteers for both days of the festival. We served 8,000 pounds of pudding uh and that was made by our nonprofit organizations.
6:056 minutes, 5 secondsand we served 3,7 containers and our pudding path sold 4,650 containers. So, this is driven by the
6:146 minutes, 14 secondssuccess of what the event is and clients there. Um, and all that goes back to the nonprofits that we serve in attendance
6:226 minutes, 22 secondswas 9,343 um which is which was a record not close to our goal of 10,000 in the deck. You
6:316 minutes, 31 secondsalso see that we brought in 6 50 random samplings of zip codes. Uh this is what we ask. Where are y'all
6:406 minutes, 40 secondsfrom? We have volunteers that ask people their zip codes. So we do a random sampling of that. Um tax assessors
6:486 minutes, 48 secondsoffice is part of that. Um thankfully um 650 responses. We represented 45 counties from across all of Tennessee.
6:586 minutes, 58 secondsUh in the national level, we had 36 states represented including Alaska and the District of Columbia and we had 298
7:077 minutes, 7 secondsUS counties represented in our random sampling. This uh is the heat map that's
7:147 minutes, 14 secondson here showing uh the density of the responses we received. So um absence of Tennessee and Alabama, California,
7:227 minutes, 22 secondsTexas, Georgia, Mississippi are and Florida were some of the most population
7:297 minutes, 29 secondsdense areas that reached us. Also nationally we reached six countries uh including Australia, Canada, Japan,
7:387 minutes, 38 secondsItaly, Vietnam and Dutch antilles.
7:417 minutes, 41 secondsSo that is uh kind of what we're showcasing where our reach is as a national banana pudding festival where
7:507 minutes, 50 secondsHCA has that capability of expanding beyond the borders of Hickman County and Tennessee. Uh so the focus is that uh
8:008 minuteswe're no longer local gathering. We're not catering to the local. We're catering to a national level, but more
8:078 minutes, 7 secondsimportantly regional in Tennessee. And that's where all of our marketing dollars spend. We don't focus on marketing to our people here. A lot of
8:158 minutes, 15 secondsfolks say, "Well, it's too costly for our folks." It's not geared toward people here. It's geared to drive people in from other areas to see our
8:248 minutes, 24 secondsresources, to see what we have available. Um, in section three, we have the attendant audience profile and state
8:338 minutes, 33 secondstourism standards. using the Placer AI data that's in the deck. Uh you can see
8:408 minutes, 40 secondsinformation that we in 2023 we did a or I did a study in
8:468 minutes, 46 seconds2024 with Placer AI. It was a um but they actually were trying to sell me on Placer AI but during the presentation I
8:548 minutes, 54 secondsstole the data that he was presenting to me because it was valuable. Um and so that's what I'm sharing with you. So um
9:039 minutes, 3 secondssorry the reason why I'm sharing this data is that we can there are research methods
9:119 minutes, 11 secondsto find out information and ways of tracking who's actually coming to our festival. And this is realistic using
9:199 minutes, 19 secondscell phone pings. There's other that use credit card data as well. And this
9:259 minutes, 25 secondsinformation um is showcasing uh population density that's very
9:329 minutes, 32 secondssimilar to what's in line with ours. Uh it is a random sampling as well because it's based on people's volunteering that
9:399 minutes, 39 secondsinformation on their cell phone. But in 2023 they estimated we had 8,300 people visit with an average distance covering
9:489 minutes, 48 secondsuh from anywhere from 20 to 30 miles, 50 miles and 100 miles or greater. And
9:559 minutes, 55 secondsthat's the uh based on their information. And image three, you have a map of that heat map uh showcasing where
10:0410 minutes, 4 secondseverybody comes from the state. Image four showcases where everybody's coming from in the U region, the states around us, surrounding us.
10:1610 minutes, 16 secondsUh where it gets interesting is what we can do uh profiles. Why this is important uh is that the per household
10:2510 minutes, 25 secondsincome is higher than the the national average. So in image five, six and seven and eight, these are profiles of the
10:3410 minutes, 34 secondspeople that uh attend the festival. So you have the median income, disposable
10:4010 minutes, 40 secondsincome is 118. So 100 being the national average. We're overund 18 basis points
10:4910 minutes, 49 secondsover the national average. Uh the average income is 12 basis points over that. So we're attracting a higher uh
10:5910 minutes, 59 secondsdemographic that is willing to pay money and come to events that are what we consider aggra tourism or events that
11:0611 minutes, 6 secondsare in the backount roads of Pikman County as we say. Um the average age uh
11:1411 minutes, 14 secondsis a little bit lower uh than the national average. So we're right below
11:2011 minutes, 20 secondsthe the 38.38 the median age as well.
11:2611 minutes, 26 secondsAnd the households that have children are 10 uh 10 basis points higher than the average. And 24 basis points uh have
11:3611 minutes, 36 secondsa college degree or greater which is signifying that we have educated population that is coming to these
11:4311 minutes, 43 secondsevents as well. The other uh interesting thing image seven and eight show the uh
11:5211 minutes, 52 secondsaverage likes of what these profiles say. So in the top three things you have
11:5911 minutes, 59 secondsBell's Brewery, Founders Brewery, and Dogfish Head Breweries. These are breweries that are are on their profile
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondsand there are multiple people that are catering to that. So, these are craft beers. Uh, so we're attracting a little
12:1412 minutes, 14 secondsbit more refined profile when it comes to flavor. Uh, what is interesting is of all these, these are beers that are at
12:2212 minutes, 22 secondsthe top. You have Moon Pies at seven basis points over the national average.
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsMoonpie is one of our sponsors, so it's natural that we're attracting a demographic that likes Moon Pies.
12:3412 minutes, 34 secondsUm, we use this data to cater to our marketing and focus on how we can
12:4112 minutes, 41 secondsoutreach to places outside of Hickman County. And so that's where we cater our Facebook
12:4812 minutes, 48 secondsprofiles uh to reach very specific demographics.
12:5312 minutes, 53 secondsUm, and that is why we have a higher profile that is attracted to our event.
12:5912 minutes, 59 secondsUm and in image 10 and image 11, these are
13:0513 minutes, 5 secondsinteresting. Uh image 10 shows the foot traffic before they get they got to the festival and it shows the foot traffic
13:1413 minutes, 14 secondsafter they got to the festival. So it's actually tracking them after they leave and before they get there. Uh what why
13:2213 minutes, 22 secondsthis is important I'll talk about a little bit later. Um, we have Dunkin Donuts as number one in Fairview at 1.1%
13:3013 minutes, 30 secondsof all of our visitors went to Dunkin Donuts. Um, after Fish Camp got 1.5% of the traffic, uh, Fast Stop Market,
13:4113 minutes, 41 secondsMapco, Mart, uh, Dollar General, and Fairview Liquors and Wine.
13:4613 minutes, 46 secondsUm, in the image 11, this one focuses strictly on restaurants. Uh the top five
13:5513 minutes, 55 secondsyou have here or four we have here are are local. Uh obviously Reese's is the local place. So that still hasn't been
14:0314 minutes, 3 secondschanged on whatever pings that is. Uh Colton is one of our sponsors also that
14:1014 minutes, 10 secondshas they're on there and Papa Kos. So uh visitors this is again a random sampling average of the visitors that they
14:1814 minutes, 18 secondsestimate attended these places on the far right side.
14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsWhy that is important is um it it is a a statement of where the a pavilion is actually located. Being in Centerville
14:3214 minutes, 32 secondsand to Centerville, it is pulling people across the whole entire county to spend tax dollars in our gas stations,
14:3914 minutes, 39 secondsrestaurants, hotels, Airbnbs. Um and I've unfortunately used this uh because the Grinder switch rodeo was
14:4814 minutes, 48 secondspart of our partnership for the act pavilion. uh had to relocate to the cowboy church under pure tourism circumstances. It was wildly successful,
14:5914 minutes, 59 secondsa great event they put on, but it's within minutes from Dixon County's on and all the tax revenue went straight back to Dixon County for gas stations,
15:1015 minutes, 10 secondshotels, restaurants for people that are leaving unless they went to Columbia and participated in meal day or whatever else. So that's just food for thought on
15:1915 minutes, 19 secondswhy geographically the act pavilion is such an important resource uh to where that location is.
15:2715 minutes, 27 secondsUm going back to this uh the pure Tennessee Department of Tourism
15:3415 minutes, 34 secondsDevelopment metric classifies a tourism event as drawing significant crowds from beyond 50 miles or greater. Uh this is
15:4315 minutes, 43 secondsimportant because when we talk about sports marketing tourism for our ball fields or whatnot that not a pure
15:5215 minutes, 52 secondsdefinition of tourism and it would be very susceptible for scrutiny under a line item when you're doing a um
16:0016 minutesallocation for a tourism spin. And that's no no um bashing on our ballparks
16:0716 minutes, 7 secondsas we know that they're very well needed to be attended to as well. But if we try to use that as a pure tourism
16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsstandpoint, it doesn't hold muster with the Tennessee Department of Tourism. Um,
16:2116 minutes, 21 secondsnow unless it's a a a sporting event that is drawing people from all across the state, like a state tournament, like
16:2816 minutes, 28 secondsMurphy'sboro has state tournaments, they host those. So, our summer league tournament would be classified as that if they're using hotels to stay in our
16:3716 minutes, 37 secondsour county overnight. And that's the other thing is that it's designed to be spent
16:4316 minutes, 43 secondson resources for pure tourism that drives people to stay overnight, spend their tax dollars here and um use our resources locally.
16:5516 minutes, 55 secondsUm the
17:0317 minutes, 3 secondspart four we talk about agro tourism boom in the destination president. Uh Hickman County's position is perfectly
17:1217 minutes, 12 secondspositioned to capture the booming national market. It's one of the number one uh tourism uh focuses in Tennessee is agurism. The
17:2117 minutes, 21 secondsa pavilion plays a part of that. Our festival is not necessarily a aggra tour of a festival, but it is a cultural
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsheritage type of event that draws people all across the state for that. But as they're going through the county,
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondsthey're seeing the farmlands, the natural resources we have, and that's what makes it attractive to people to want to come to a rural area. The agon
17:4617 minutes, 46 secondsarts tours uh that's coming up will be a vital part of that, utilizing the a pavilion as a resource. Um but it also
17:5517 minutes, 55 secondsuh involves them going from different farms all across the county uh showcasing the county resources we have as well. I believe the plan is to use
18:0418 minutes, 4 secondsthe a pavilion as a stopping point at the end of the agon tour itself. Um I
18:1118 minutes, 11 secondsalso highlight or talk about the the Lynchberg model. Uh this is something
18:1718 minutes, 17 secondsthat um is directly addressing where the act pavilion is on a two-lane road in the middle of a country and nowhere
18:2518 minutes, 25 secondsland. Uh Jack Daniels is that example that I use. It's in Lynchburg,
18:3018 minutes, 30 secondsTennessee, home of 700 people. There's 750 people that work at Jack Daniels Distillery itself. It's on two-lane roads nowhere near any major interstate
18:3818 minutes, 38 secondsor highway. They have over 300,000 visitors every year that go to Jack Daniels from all over the globe. Why is that? There's only One place that Jack
18:4618 minutes, 46 secondsDaniels has made, it's right there in Lynchburg. I went to a race, a half marathon that was sponsored by Jack
18:5418 minutes, 54 secondsDaniels in Lynchburg. We had over 1,800 or we had 1774 runners that participated in the race
19:0119 minutes, 1 secondwith spectators and all combined. We probably had over 200 people on the town square at one time uh throughout the the
19:0919 minutes, 9 secondsrace itself. Uh and that's in the middle of nowhere. And so me point is that it
19:1719 minutes, 17 secondsis the quality in the caliber of the event that you put on such as the National Banana Pudding Festival or the Grinder Switch Rodeo or the Agon Arts
19:2519 minutes, 25 secondsTour uh that people are craving. That's what people will go to once they're inside the event. They don't care that they were on a two-lane road in the
19:3319 minutes, 33 secondsmiddle of nowhere. They like that actually because it's nostalgic of the rural community that that we represent. So,
19:4219 minutes, 42 secondsum let me add a footnote. One person finished the Jack Daniels race.
19:4919 minutes, 49 secondsOddly enough,
19:5219 minutes, 52 secondsas you know, you cannot buy liquor at Lynchburg. They do not serve any Jack
19:5819 minutes, 58 secondsDaniels at all on that race. So, um, but it is very popular every year because it has a very tough hill that everybody
20:0620 minutes, 6 secondstries to overcome. But they cap it. They have to cap the race though because they can't have over 2,000 people on the street of Lynchburg around Jack Daniels.
20:1820 minutes, 18 secondsUm, so kind of what I was talking about with where the cowboy church was with the rodeo, we have what is called revenue leakage in our county. Um,
20:2820 minutes, 28 secondsrevenue leakage as I've said before,
20:3120 minutes, 31 secondspeople came into the county and went to Dunkin Donuts before they even entered our county and spent their money. Uh likewise they're at McDonald's or wherever at the gas stations in Dixon.
20:4220 minutes, 42 secondsSo when they leave they are spending their money if they're we're not capturing them here locally. So that's why Centerville is is very important to
20:5020 minutes, 50 secondswhere the active is in that and capturing that traffic that goes through here. The lodging trap we talk about is
20:5820 minutes, 58 secondsthat we're in a chicken and egg situation trying to figure out how to get another hotel or a better quality
21:0621 minutes, 6 secondshotel here when we don't have the uh necessarily demand for it. uh what part
21:1321 minutes, 13 secondsof that HCA proposal with driving in uh different events throughout the year that would generate a interest in saying
21:2221 minutes, 22 secondshey we have so many events perhaps we should reach out to a hotel year and try
21:2821 minutes, 28 secondsto recruit somebody that says we do have good resources for them to build a
21:3521 minutes, 35 secondsmulti-million dollar hotel if not some boutique hotels smaller hotels uh producing more Airbnbs, that type of
21:4321 minutes, 43 secondsthing. Uh not only that, um are we exporting our hotel stays to the
21:5021 minutes, 50 secondssurrounding counties, um the event venues that we have here also are exporting their guests to other counties
21:5921 minutes, 59 secondsbecause we don't have another hotel that they recommend, hey, stay in this hotel while you're having your wedding or your reunion, etc., etc.
22:0822 minutes, 8 secondsUm so to include a little bit of this. Uh the the proposal still stands of what we're trying to do in unifying the A board,
22:1822 minutes, 18 secondsMBPF and the Agon arts foundation under HCA's management. Uh we still are
22:2522 minutes, 25 secondsseeking a 40% of the hotel motel tax or the remaining 40% to recruit someone to
22:3122 minutes, 31 secondsbe a facility or to contract someone to be a facility manager and event coordinator. Um but also to perhaps try
22:4022 minutes, 40 secondsto grants and um other areas of tourism and any other opportunities that might arise that could be sports marketing,
22:4922 minutes, 49 secondstourism, that kind of stuff as well. Um by allocating that 40% we believe that we will be able to recruit more events,
22:5922 minutes, 59 secondsnot only recruit events as what happened by happen stance in the rodeo. They had uh some folks from Ireland that visited
23:0823 minutes, 8 secondsuh how do they find out our rodeo in Ireland. It was more about the tourism agency that they were partnering with
23:1623 minutes, 16 secondsthat found out there was a rodeo. They didn't they got tired of all the country music stuff in Nashville and came down
23:2223 minutes, 22 secondsand visited a rodeo. So part of that HCA initiative would be to be attractive to uh other tourism agents in Nashville and
23:3123 minutes, 31 secondsother surrounding counties that would be attractive to events here and try to pull people and resources to to focus
23:3923 minutes, 39 secondshere. Not only that, but uh uh hotels or or whatever else in the area that we can partner with to try to say, "Hey, these are our resources. when you're in town,
23:5023 minutes, 50 secondsstop and stay at this Airbnb, this restaurant, so on so forth. Uh the local fundraising platform, as we know, the
23:5923 minutes, 59 secondsthe Banana Pudding Festival was able to give back $87,000 last year. Uh and that's been our track record for the
24:0624 minutes, 6 secondslast several years that we've been able to produce that. Um but this is a fun that is 100% a nonprofit fundraiser. All
24:1424 minutes, 14 secondsof it goes back to the community. So using that kind of platform thought process, HCA could uh manage the ACT
24:2124 minutes, 21 secondspavilion by offering that same kind of fundraising platform for other events that take place at the pavilion itself,
24:2824 minutes, 28 secondsparking, concession stands, whatever it is. Um giving back to the community in that partnership.
24:3724 minutes, 37 secondsUm as you know, we brought in over 9,000 high spend visitors as we talked about.
24:4324 minutes, 43 secondsUm, we think that we can replicate that process with other event management companies that want to have a host an event here as well.
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsAny questions? I know there are thoughts.
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondsUm,
25:0425 minutes, 4 secondsso I've been proven wrong twice with this wooding thing when it first started. Um, I I just thought there's no
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondsway that this how Mr. Blackburn and his crew put it together. This seems too hokey,
25:1725 minutes, 17 secondswhatever. And boy, I was wrong. Um, and I know Troy Fish Camp, all the restaurants will probably tell you that if the weather's good that weekend, for
25:2625 minutes, 26 secondsus at least, it's the busiest day by far uh on Saturday and Friday for us.
25:3425 minutes, 34 secondsBut then when it moved from the river park to the pav, I thought, you know, it seemed like the river park was a good spot because people would see it driving
25:4225 minutes, 42 secondsby. whatever. But you and I have talked a little bit about it and you explained that um although you obviously want locals to come to that that you're one
25:5025 minutes, 50 secondsof your driving forces is to try to get folks from out of town so they're not concerned about it where it as you said necessarily that it's at the river park they didn't know what the river park is
25:5925 minutes, 59 secondsand this Lynchburg model really really clears that up and I I never thought about that and you know two-lane road
26:0826 minutes, 8 secondsinto this little town that's not even a third the size center. Um and and so h
26:1526 minutes, 15 secondshas your group are the are you already maybe anticipating if this if if what you're asking were to happen, are you
26:2326 minutes, 23 secondsalready thinking about what type of events you'd maybe like to try to bring in? Is there other things that that you're that you're spitballing thinking,
26:3126 minutes, 31 secondswell, maybe this would work or that would work or is that just Well, I mean, it's like a kind of a
26:3926 minutes, 39 secondsno holds bar because there's so many uh ways to approach it. Uh we have person
26:4626 minutes, 46 secondsthat's on our national banana pudding festival board that it works for Live Nation or contracts with Live Nation. Um
26:5426 minutes, 54 secondshe's very well known in the sound industry. He's our sound guy and uh he lives here and he's passionate about
27:0327 minutes, 3 secondsbringing things here. So he does have a interest in trying to bring back concerts or things at the act pavilion,
27:1127 minutes, 11 secondsbut he also has partnerships and knowledge of country music stars that live here and or frequent here as well
27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsand have already started a conversation of not just using the act pavilion itself, but as a main feature with multi
27:2827 minutes, 28 secondsmultiple stages throughout Hickman County uh to not just focus on centerville But maybe the eastern side
27:3527 minutes, 35 secondsand cobalt or probably not on Swan Creek.
27:4027 minutes, 40 secondsBut uh so that that is one facet. The agon arts tour, the agra tourism tapping
27:4727 minutes, 47 secondsinto more of that kind of stuff, rodeo um possibly bringing another festival uh
27:5427 minutes, 54 secondsthat wouldn't be managed by us, but bring it featuring it. I say this because in in Murphy'sboro there is a
28:0128 minutes, 1 secondbanana pudding festival that is not affiliated with us but people try to affiliate with us. But she al it's a a
28:0828 minutes, 8 secondsfor-profit organization that puts on a peach cobbler festival, a blueberry cobbler festival, a fried pickle
28:1728 minutes, 17 secondsfestival, and it's all held in the same vicinity using the same vendors using the same uh resources. They just change
28:2428 minutes, 24 secondsout what the festival is. Our intention is not to be that but it is very easy to replicate and cookie cutter an event like our festival. We have the
28:3328 minutes, 33 secondsresources, we have the means of all the vendor connections that we have. Uh we actually are sold out for all of our
28:4028 minutes, 40 secondsvendor spots. We sold out by the middle of uh April. Um which is because we and
28:4828 minutes, 48 secondswe only opened it up for 45 days. So that's how how much of a demand to to be a vendor at our festival is. So we could
28:5728 minutes, 57 secondseasily replicate that at other types of festivals to answer that question.
29:0429 minutes, 4 secondsBut and and we know that the facility needs a lot of um upkeep as it's been neglected throughout the years. But the
29:1329 minutes, 13 secondsone of the things that I've been trying to figure out is how to get a flooring put into it. So it's a removable flooring. So you could host other events
29:2229 minutes, 22 secondslike a car show. People don't want to drive their cars in on a shirt. So uh
29:3029 minutes, 30 secondsthat is one facet that holds back certain things of the event. But at my sound guy said that he just saw flooring
29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsthat normally goes for about a hundred to $150,000 was sold at auction for $8,000 last month. So there's ways of
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondspartnering with existing things to get used out here that makes it work.
29:5129 minutes, 51 secondsPersonally, it's not a great thing for the festival to have people eating in the arena uh because of the dust that
29:5929 minutes, 59 secondsstirred up by people's feet and it is very dusty. So, um but we people haven't complained about it. I complain about it because my shoes are orange by the dust.
30:1230 minutes, 12 secondsDid that answer your question? Thank you.
30:1630 minutes, 16 secondsTwo more questions for Robert.
30:2430 minutes, 24 secondsThe rodeo was moved because of a parking issue. Correct.
30:3230 minutes, 32 secondsHow can you overcome or has that been overcome? Is there a way to overcome that?
30:3930 minutes, 39 secondsThat is something that um I've been working with the property owner uh and I was actually and discovered that the
30:4730 minutes, 47 secondsissue to begin with. Um, but the it's an insurance liability issue that this
30:5530 minutes, 55 secondsinvolves not necessarily the using the facility itself, but it involves how she leases her land. Uh, so we're in the
31:0431 minutes, 4 secondsshe's in the process of getting her insurance straightened out with someone that understands what she needs. And um
31:1231 minutes, 12 secondsI have pitched her to allow us to lease the land of some some capacity specifically for events when the need
31:2031 minutes, 20 secondsfor parking arises. Uh she's not keen on the idea, but she's open to listening.
31:2631 minutes, 26 secondsSo, uh that's where we're at right now.
31:3231 minutes, 32 secondsAnd it's it was just unfortunate circumstance where she was not ready to she didn't have any insurance whatsoever
31:3931 minutes, 39 secondsand she was ready to say, "Yeah, you can use the land with the COI covering it."
31:4431 minutes, 44 secondsUh, which is very simple to do, but she just didn't understand that business, so to speak.
31:5231 minutes, 52 secondsBut you're having dialogue with Betsy now.
32:0032 minutesMr. Ward.
32:1132 minutes, 11 secondsI was either that good or not that great. I thought it was pretty good.
32:2032 minutes, 20 secondsI do know I do know there's some headway getting made on the the insurance situation.
32:2832 minutes, 28 secondsThat's really the only hold back to the to the park. You have something else, Deb?
32:3332 minutes, 33 secondsThe the 40% that you guys are are requesting That's that is not going to be enough to fully fund the position.
32:4232 minutes, 42 secondsThat's correct.
32:4332 minutes, 43 secondsYeah. So, and you may have covered it and so to try to come up with the rest of it, how will you do that as through ticket sales or commit or
32:5132 minutes, 51 secondsevents that are taking place at the pavilion? Uh, I fundamentally believe I'm a I'm in the private sector. So I
33:0033 minutesbelieve that giving up the option for nonprofits or volunteers to try to stir
33:0733 minutes, 7 secondsevents at the pavilion does not drive them to do that. So having a set amount
33:1433 minutes, 14 secondsof money to say this is your salary, but if you have XYZ events drawing in XYZ dollars, you're going to get 10% or 5%
33:2333 minutes, 23 secondsof the profits. And I think that will drive in a a desire more income to say, "Hey, if
33:3133 minutes, 31 secondsI can bring in a h 100,000, I can get an extra $10,000 in my pocket." Does that make sense?
33:3833 minutes, 38 secondsYes.
33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsSo, you're director, whatever the title is, be commissioned,
33:4833 minutes, 48 secondscorrect? Partly commission based, but a monthly rate, but commission for the remaining
33:5533 minutes, 55 secondsamount, which is whatever dictated by her her or his success.
34:0234 minutes, 2 secondsSo I'm sorry, one final question. It may be in your and you're looking for a
34:0934 minutes, 9 secondsduration of how long initially with this the original request was for five years.
34:1534 minutes, 15 secondsuh which the the reason for five was we think it takes three years to really finesse the position to get the position
34:2434 minutes, 24 secondsgrowing to understand how to market and to pull people in for industry. So a lot of trust goes into it and you have to
34:3234 minutes, 32 secondsbuild that trust. Um four years puts it in an election cycle and I think that we need to not be on an election cycle.
34:4134 minutes, 41 secondsFive years is that swinging grace period.
34:4634 minutes, 46 secondsBut if you know y'all think it should be three then we can explore that too.
34:5534 minutes, 55 secondsSo with a rodeo, is there any opportunity to expand that and have multiple rodeos or
35:0235 minutes, 2 secondsI have been looking at other like we'll call it like spin off events and I've been talking to some of the contractors potentially about doing like a
35:1035 minutes, 10 secondscompetitive bull fighting event not riding but fighting not doing that.
35:1735 minutes, 17 secondsAnd then uh other random we made a lot of barrel racers very mad because we left 20 in the main event
35:2535 minutes, 25 secondswhich I thought was a lot. Uh but there was at least 60 more that had called
35:3935 minutes, 39 secondsa time that look like it probably like a jackpot. I don't know if you're familiar
35:4735 minutes, 47 secondswith any kind of type stuff more like a jackpot type event where they pay a little bit higher entry prize but it's
35:5435 minutes, 54 secondsmostly payback and then a little bit of space but maybe do like a twoday deal where they come in kind of hang out and
36:0236 minutes, 2 secondsprobably make that where it's not ticket sales based but just retain
36:0936 minutes, 9 secondsreason I ask that I key in on what you what you said that there's some people that come to Nashville they get kind of get tired of the country music and they
36:1736 minutes, 17 secondsdon't do the downtowns, they can have enough of that after about probably one night, two hours.
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondsWe're not that far away from folks to come and be able to do that. So, you know, having some kind of regular
36:3236 minutes, 32 secondsschedule events I think would be good and I think you capitalize like
36:4136 minutes, 41 secondson that I used to do a lot of conventions with my wife, she would have to go. I need to find something to do.
36:5036 minutes, 50 secondsNashville does a lot of conventions and it doesn't take those people long to get all the lower that they want.
37:0037 minutesSomething like the rodeo. That's that's how the people from Ireland ended up on missionary rig. They were country music out and their tour guide threw some options at them.
37:1537 minutes, 15 secondsAnd to to Deon's point, you know,
37:1737 minutes, 17 secondsthere's nothing stopping us from growing youth events, growing 4. Jonathan's talked about stock shows like the the options are limited to what we can do,
37:2737 minutes, 27 secondsespecially if we grow that facility.
37:3037 minutes, 30 secondscurious. And I don't I don't know a thing about rodeoing, but I'm assuming the cowboy church um space that you had
37:3937 minutes, 39 secondswas smaller than what the the activ would have been. Yes.
37:4337 minutes, 43 secondsIn other words, so had you been able to have it at the ACOV, would that have made it could you have done more or had I don't know how that works.
37:5037 minutes, 50 secondsI think we would have had more room because I so I had already had my my rodeo contractor out there with tape measure months before the event. I'd
37:5837 minutes, 58 secondsalready had my bleacher out there with the tape measure. Before the event, we had a layout that was going to work with the existing bleachers and fold up
38:0738 minutes, 7 secondschairs and the bleacher rental. We should have had seating for close to 2,000 people, just a little shy. But
38:1438 minutes, 14 secondsbecause of the hiccup, we end up with only bleacher seating for about 1,200 people. So there was a lot of people standing around.
38:2338 minutes, 23 secondsAnd then as far as the actual rodeo arena itself goes, uh, initially we were supposed to be taking the arena that is
38:3038 minutes, 30 secondsup there down so that we could build ours inside of it. Uh we couldn't do that over there because all of the arena
38:3938 minutes, 39 secondsfixtures are in concrete. So longterm I know everything's open here. But I
38:4738 minutes, 47 secondswant to make sure that this happens next year too. U exploring taking that out possibly.
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsBasically, it made it to where over there I had a 120 by 120 square. And anybody that has been to a team roping
39:0139 minutes, 1 secondknows that horses need more than just a couple of strides to go out and give the rider an opportunity to rope a steer and
39:0939 minutes, 9 secondsturn steer. The short arena ended up uh leaving me with two rope and belt buckles. Nobody was able to get a
39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsqualifying run. So, I had two rope and belt buckles that stayed with us.
39:2439 minutes, 24 secondstry to qualify.
39:3039 minutes, 30 secondsThat's like what Robert said by having the uh rodeo at the cowboy church it
39:3739 minutes, 37 secondsdid not moneywise did not benefit us at all.
39:4239 minutes, 42 secondsSo you had how many people was estimated roughly 200 2,000 people in let's say
39:5139 minutes, 51 secondsyeah I mean exactly there's nowhere to go until they're going just a couple miles up the road to Dix to eat and
39:5739 minutes, 57 secondsthey're yeah spend their money there so that's no good to have somewhere like
40:0640 minutes, 6 secondsthat and I mean and there's been talks of put another fairground out. I don't
40:1540 minutes, 15 secondshonestly until there's hotels or other places for people to stay, you'll have the leakage and it will continue to leak out.
40:2440 minutes, 24 secondsYou might get some folks eating at the restaurants, but if they're open,
40:3240 minutes, 32 secondsright? It's chicken and egg situation.
40:3840 minutes, 38 secondsOne thing for sure, one gets the other.
40:4240 minutes, 42 secondsDoesn't matter who come first, one want to get you the other one. That's right. You got you got to start somewhere.
40:5140 minutes, 51 secondsAny more discussion? Mr. Warden, I don't think anybody's ready to make any motions or do any votes tonight, but
41:0041 minutesand this was all emailed to you on your iPad account if you haven't looked at it.
41:1541 minutes, 15 secondsI do have a question on you driving the time event.
41:2141 minutes, 21 secondsYou have a pretty solid contract stock contract. You have pretty he'll
41:3041 minutes, 30 secondsdo he'll do whatever I want.
41:3641 minutes, 36 secondsthose times events barrel rac
41:4441 minutes, 44 secondsMississippi in the last 34 years those draw cowboy
41:5241 minutes, 52 secondsdraw crowd you drew one well so a friend of mine just went to a round robin team roping uh in Alabama
42:0142 minutes, 1 secondand there was spectators but the spectators were And there was about 2,000 of them there.
42:0842 minutes, 8 secondsIt was it was I think two solid day.
42:1142 minutes, 11 secondsWe're talking they were almost 20 hours each. Oh yeah. I've been a couple.
42:2642 minutes, 26 secondsThank you, Robert. This isn't over.
42:3242 minutes, 32 secondsProbably need to let absorb some of this that they got hit with tonight.
42:4142 minutes, 41 secondsThank you, Mr. Ling. Good.
42:4642 minutes, 46 secondsThank you. Um the numbers for March 22 total calls and if you notice over the
42:5442 minutes, 54 secondspast few months, as you look back, our numbers are trending down. Um usually
43:0043 minuteswe're at 300 350 calls. So, uh, over the past few months, we we've been way down
43:0643 minutes, 6 secondsin calls. Um, and also notice that our collection is 84,68165.
43:1343 minutes, 13 secondsIt's kind of leveling out. Uh, so this is the new company. Uh, you know, we were seeing dips down into the 40,000s with the old company and and we're
43:2243 minutes, 22 secondsstarting to see stream out there about 84 uh and in in that neighborhood. And our charges were 115,
43:3143 minutes, 31 seconds33,983. those margins are are shrinking also.
43:3643 minutes, 36 secondsSo, um I think that kind of tells the story on the job that our our new building
43:4443 minutes, 44 secondscompany's doing. Um and so those are the numbers. Appreciate your vote on motion by Mr. Gian, second by Mr.
43:5543 minutes, 55 secondsMayberry to approve the financial statement from Service. Roll call vote. Mr. Jordan,
44:0444 minutes, 4 secondsyes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Nag. Yes. Mr. Picker. Yes. Mr. Barnhill has joined the meeting.
44:1344 minutes, 13 secondsWould you like to vote? Yes. Mr. Mayberry? Yes. Mr. Murray? Yes.
44:2044 minutes, 20 secondsMr. Har? Yes. The chairman votes? Yes.
44:2644 minutes, 26 secondsYou through. I was going to tell you we are running out of the pinewood station full throttle. Uh had had a few little
44:3344 minutes, 33 secondshumps and bumps that we're we're trying to work our way through but just nothing that that's extraordinary. Just kind of normal operation things that we're
44:4244 minutes, 42 secondstrying to iron out. U you know we've got a lot of moving part a lot of different departments that play a part. So getting
44:4844 minutes, 48 secondseverybody on the same page uh has been a little bit rough but we're making
44:5644 minutes, 56 secondswhat I was going to say. I happened to be down there riding through on my motorcycle and
45:0445 minutes, 4 secondspulled over and got to see the first call roll out of that building.
45:1045 minutes, 10 secondsI've got a video if anybody wants.
45:1645 minutes, 16 secondsDidn't look like they were fully moved in. I looked in through the through the door.
45:2245 minutes, 22 secondsUm, pretty much everything's in there now.
45:2645 minutes, 26 secondsWe still have some uh contracts we need to sign with Micro Company and some other folks like that and they'll move
45:3445 minutes, 34 secondsmove some of their equipment in at that time. Um and so we're in the process of getting all that lined up right now.
45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsThe the gas pump operational? Not yet. Matt Matt's working on that.
45:4745 minutes, 47 secondsOkay. There's wiring issue there and Matt's Matt's trying to get that fixed.
45:5245 minutes, 52 secondsBut the as they make their trips to the They can swing my center if they're coming down here, swing by east if
46:0046 minutesthey're in fuel up. So I knew they could they could handle that. I was as
46:0646 minutes, 6 secondsconcerned for the sheriff as I was and
46:1346 minutes, 13 secondstalked about that was after everybody moved in. I know my guys want to use that as a secondary if they're out there
46:2246 minutes, 22 secondsand have to have gas. We're still using our primary source of it when it is
46:3146 minutes, 31 secondslike my generator on that building and through the ice storm. It would have been nice to had those gas. Absolutely.
46:3946 minutes, 39 secondsYes.
46:4046 minutes, 40 secondsAlan, are are your folks able to stay overnight now? There they are. Yes. Okay.
46:4846 minutes, 48 secondsAny more questions for the director?
46:5746 minutes, 57 secondsThat takes care of all the new business there. There's old business on this. Jason,
47:0347 minutes, 3 secondsit's a resolution regarding the nuisance laws. Did Did we take care of that at
47:1047 minutes, 10 secondsthe last court meeting or is that still up in the air? I don't think it ever got voted up.
47:1947 minutes, 19 secondsSo, there's two. The one's for the nuisance laws.
47:2347 minutes, 23 secondsYes. And the other one is for uh you want them to permit roadblocks if they're taking up money. Yes.
47:3047 minutes, 30 secondsAnd those will be at at the next county commission meeting. Yes.
47:3647 minutes, 36 secondsI was thinking that was right. The uh does anybody have any questions about those since they're on the agenda?
47:4847 minutes, 48 secondsWe not I think we've talked about them in here already.
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsMake county commission approve. Does Dusty have a second?
48:0048 minutesMotion by Commissioner Jordan, second by Mr. Mayberry to send those resolutions to the full body. All those in favor say I.
48:0848 minutes, 8 secondsI. Opposed.
48:1248 minutes, 12 secondsThey'll be on the agenda for the next county court meeting.
48:1948 minutes, 19 secondsThere any new business that wasn't on the agenda? Looking for that motion, Mr. Mayberry.
48:3048 minutes, 30 secondsMotion to all those favor say I.